slo
Jan 08 2007, 06:59 PM
I am very pleased to announce the 11th Annual Plastic Pilots El Dorado Open Disc Golf Tournament, the second-longest running SoCal event next to Wintertime, will be observed 10-11 March 2007.

Thanks to the efforts of Dan Duron, Tim Selinske, and Innova-Champion, the City of Long Beach will allow us to use another area of the Regional Park for a temporary course....most likely the section where Archery was contested, during the 1984 Olympics. Although there were weather concerns last year, and [unannounced][here] plans were in-the works to move the dates to June, the City would not allow the two-course design any later, as the site becomes much populated in the late Spring/Summer.

Plans are, for AMs and Pros alike to play AT LEAST one round on each course. We also plan [again, Monster Kudos to the Duron Family] to continue the PPA tradition of serving lunch between rounds.

I HOPE to have a flyer by Friday, but perhaps next week is more likely....like I said, I was aiming for June if this didn't go, and even the [i]possibility was recent news to me.



....anyone with the capability to provide a portable, PDGA-approved target, please contact Dan or myself.

slo
Jan 16 2007, 03:49 PM
Well, evidently MLK day is worthy of a 4-day weekend, at least that's my guess. I hope everyone's heath is OK; that's been a major concern personally for several weeks now....I hope that health is not the issue. But Until SoCal posts the official form, I will also accept these outlaw facimiles:

Outlaw Flyer (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/eldorado_2007_web.jpg)

2007 El Dorado Open Blurp (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id31.html)

discette
Jan 16 2007, 04:20 PM
The flyer is now available on the So Cal website.

slo
Jan 18 2007, 12:08 AM
Official Tourney Site (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/PlasticPilotsElDoradoOpen11.html)
It looks very nice, thank you! ....however I am going to see if I can get the AREA map moved to a more intrinsic name/area, but everything is now there; Teesign Sponsors can figure how to reach me, etc.

...it will be interesting to see how many snabbed the 'Outlaw Flyer', now rescinded and much less-nice looking, but now I can guess who was amongst the 74 who peeked at the headline; thank you for your interest in the Open 2007, now Its 11th incarnation, as both a PDGA-sanctioned, AND SoCal event [which I think is even more significant: You know it's going to be a premium deal].

I know firsthand it's always an exciting thing to play a one-of, one-of-a-kind course, and whilst the Traditional, World Champion John Ahart-designed original layout, spread amongst the Carob, and Ash Forests here, is indisputably the nicest course around, for two days the 19-hole Horseshoe Lake layout will be THE nicest course, anywhere in SoKi.

Please, visit the 'fake' site for a blurb on how to find the East Course, and the Official site for a flyer, and Area map.

Thank you again for interest in El Dorado 11, and welcoming ALL to take opportunity of this unique event,

Respectfully, And with MUCH thanks to Dan Duron, INNOVA, and SoCal for this opportunity to serve locally and Regionally,

slo
Official Tourney Site (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/PlasticPilotsElDoradoOpen11.html)
Fake 2007 El Dorado Open Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id31.html)

topdog
Jan 18 2007, 06:10 PM
I would have liked to make the trip to this one but every year it is the same weekend as St Patrick's Classic which is an A tier.

slo
Jan 19 2007, 12:00 AM
The last Three, yes; it was the third week in April, 2004, the year HB blatantly stole our dates; in the 90's it was July, one year. But we're sort of locked-in here, certainly not a snub to our Friends in Norki, as this is the latest we can set-up in East Regional....too many clueless Civilians, after that. It also ties-in with The Legend of El Dorado's Birth Anniversary; Pat turns 79 March 8th.

But thank you for your interest! I hope to get Pat's Artwork for this year's CFR 'up' soon, soon as my hosting site behaves. Remember, no Day-Of sales this year; order with entry.

slo
Jan 19 2007, 12:53 AM
http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/we_roll_240w.jpg Eh, I can't get the thumbnail to host, and it's a no-no to put up the big one, but below is a link to a decent photo. The pencil line is not going to be a part of the final design. We Roll That Way is the given Title, and sort-of the de facto theme for Open 11, what-with the Event spilling onto a Second Course, etc.
1000x1600w Image (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weroll-11.jpg)

....The Artist, The Legend of El Dorado, 360� Pat Shea was the First Scholorship Athlete [Football] to Arizona State [so he's The Original Sun Devil, just adding to his Legendry], back in the days of the Flying Wedge, no Faceguards, and Leather Helmets, which, as I enjoy to lovingly tease, "Explains a lot". :D

I'm figuring to set-up the art on White Classic Rocs; I think that's the prints show up best, due to the rimmage distribution....more even 'light' distribution than a Blade, or an Aviar. Now, one might think artwork on a clear disc would be more true/look better, but I've seen first-hand, such is not the case; white works best.

slo
Jan 19 2007, 03:13 AM
Here we go:

http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weroll1thumb.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weroll-11.jpg).....click, etc.
We Roll That Way � 2007 360�Pat Shea

slo
Jan 22 2007, 03:48 AM
.....Remember, no Day-Of sales this year; order with entry.


So, I have to place the Full-coloured, Legend of El Dorado's Artwork/CFR order this week, and quite frankly, due-to the demonstration of refusal/neglect by people to get-with the program; the attitude that cash can bend the rules, and thanks to the accumulation of Pilot-friendly $ponsors, to assure our "B" Tierageness; plus not-to-forget-to mention the innocent, awed 'cililians' coveting Pats' Art, I'm leaning-towards a minimum order in 2007, something like half of last years' amount, and, most-regretably, likely a pass on the minis, as well.

....so, that's good for the hard-core collector$, but not Joe DG-er. Which is a shame, but I'm not going to jeopordize all the hard work of myself and others behind-the-scene, but more importantly, everyone else who actually plays/obeys; that would be a true tragedy.

...so....y'all better shape-up in the next three mailing days, [hint][ ; ] and convince me of the intere$t in the Treasure, or that's going-to-be the cold hard etc. :(

slo
Jan 24 2007, 12:50 AM
....convince me of the intere$t in the Treasure, or....


I can tell you right now, there's going to be a lot of cursing, and gnashing of teeth, when Pat's 2007 edition becomes the first Billion-dollar disc on e-bay. :(

slo
Jan 25 2007, 03:38 AM
Official Entrants Open 11 (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id32.html)

slo
Jan 26 2007, 12:47 AM
Thanks to Jack Moore and Kevin Gomez for 'volunteering' to be Event Ambassadors!

.....at least, that's what I'm led-to-believe, seeing as they must have the 'drill' memorized; what with their NOT saving the detachable schedule from the entry form..........right right? :)

slo
Jan 28 2007, 05:24 PM
I can tell you right now, there's going to be a lot of cursing*, and gnashing of teeth, when Pat's 2007 edition becomes the first Billion-dollar disc on e-bay. :(


Make that "weeping", and roughly exactly 16 unspoken for.

*....more likely weeping and cursing..... :(

slo
Jan 29 2007, 05:26 PM
Dear President, SoCal members, and interested PDGA Members/Parties:

I am doing my dutiful best to provide Pre-reg not only @ SoCalDiscGolf.org (http://socaldiscgolf.org) [the Official Open 11 Site][also the most helpful/convenient][and best-looking, to-boot], but additionally] to the PDGA Tourney site , however, I am meeting a bit of a snafu, and am in direct communication with official, PDGA-type Bigwigs, asking them [respectfully] WHY they do not "make it easy" [and], cater to computer Eeeeeeediots? [?!?]

....should be [i]real soon. [they have an outstanding 'trackrecord'][and I'm also interested in sharing the official rat-i-on-als][!!!];
....in my defense sometimes it takes a Dork *cough*harrumph*, and not a ComputerGeek, to see[/'feel'] what's most intuitive[/easiest/useful] [the Geeks can figure it out regardless].

Respectfully,
slo

slo
Feb 01 2007, 03:24 PM
Official PDGA Entrants (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Intermediate%2 0Women)

...disclosing to the World Ones' PDGA: #; 'currentcy'; rating; and 3-tiers of Political Demographics. :eek:

slo
Feb 02 2007, 06:15 PM
Official Tourney Site (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/PlasticPilotsElDoradoOpen11.html)
Fake 2007 El Dorado Open Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id31.html)
PDGA Registants (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537)

Up to 20% Full, and >>>17% Capacity.
Down to 13 Legend CFRs to-speak-of.

slo
Feb 04 2007, 12:02 AM
"AMs" is now 1/3 'full', with a waiting list of ONE.

9 CFR unclaimed. :p

slo
Feb 04 2007, 02:43 AM
9 CFR unclaimed. :p

The INNOVAgenerated, PPApproved, Event Morph:
http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/we_way_thumb.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/eldoopenweroll.jpg).....for the CFR...click, etc.

slo
Feb 07 2007, 12:55 AM
PDGA Registants (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537)
Official Tourney Site (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/PlasticPilotsElDoradoOpen11.html)
Faker but Juicier Open 11 Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id31.html)

Open 11 Registration >>> 22%-full Pros, which must be a World Record, for a Month-out, in a Tier-B, or at least locally.
....AMs now 43% full, so don't delay. ;)

slo
Feb 16 2007, 09:54 PM
Actual SoCal Tourney Site (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/PlasticPilotsElDoradoOpen11.html)
Alleged PDGA Registants (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537)
Apocryphal & not-worth-bothering Eldocational site (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id31.html)

Registration >>> 47%-full; time t' get-er-done.
http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/we_way_thumb.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/eldoopenweroll.jpg).....5 Legend CRF unclaimed. Click, etc.

katothepug
Feb 22 2007, 12:17 AM
Will there be an opportunity to see/play the second course anytime sooner than the friday before the event? I would like to see the layout, the baskets do not need to be up, but it would be nice to see the tee areas and the basket positions. thanks!

slo
Feb 22 2007, 01:33 AM
I'm pretty sure that will happen real soon--Dan has plans for an online map, painted tee/baskets--just a matter of days.

....I've walked the Course now; if anybody wants to take me over Saturday after the Meet, I'll make myself available.

slo
Feb 23 2007, 12:48 AM
To all competitive DGers concerned:
The Horseshoe course should have rudimentary marking the same day as our Monthlie, it just-so-happens. But the competition won't be there. :D

slo
Feb 23 2007, 01:17 AM
I've been on the phone with a Pro from Nebraski, and I want to make clear if it isn't already:

The Event is NOT 'capped' at Pro/AM=90. In fact, the Pro field is barely 1/3 full, roughly.

...still hedging, this Pro also hinted touring, world-famous people were considering attendance, although I do not understand why these world-famous touring Pros would be attending here, rather than their more-Home Turffier St. Paddy's, however, these are real-for-sure, world-famous professional touring Disc Golfers, and I mean THE World world-famous, locally, regionally, continentally, and worldly world-famous, which the Pro mentioned.

rhett
Feb 23 2007, 03:25 AM
St. Pattys Am weekend is the same weekend as ElDo, so touring pros wouldn't be going there.

slo
Feb 23 2007, 12:47 PM
Two weekends, eh? Well, let's still consider this "news" a wild rumour, even though at least TWO of these DG Celebs have played our Open before..............

....try this for Horseshoe (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id35.html) info:

katothepug
Feb 23 2007, 01:30 PM
It is posted on the PDGA event schedule as two different weekends, so I would hardly consider that to be a rumor. It has been two different weekends for as long as I can remember.

slo
Feb 25 2007, 01:54 AM
I would have liked to make the trip to this one but every year it is the same weekend as St Patrick's Classic which is an A tier.

I prolly assumed Topdog would be a Pro?!? :o

....Open 11 Entrants (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Open)now number in the hundreds. :cool:Avoid Flu-like symptoms and Dental attrition; enter now. ;)

grizzly09
Feb 27 2007, 11:00 PM
Hey Slo,

I was wondering when the cutoff for registration is.

slo
Feb 27 2007, 11:51 PM
Pros Thursday before;
AMs 90 Total. @71 AMs registered (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Open) presently. :p

slo
Feb 28 2007, 12:06 AM
40 Pros; 111 registered in both Flights.
A more-manageable HORSESHOE Map:http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/horseshoe_lake_map_216x280.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/horseshoe_lake_map_605x785.jpg).....click, print, etc.

c_trotter
Feb 28 2007, 02:08 PM
What is the course par on the temp course? It looks like there are some par 4's and maybe a 5. I wont get to see it until the first round of the tourney, so I want to know as much s possible. Thanks! See you there!

slo
Feb 28 2007, 04:26 PM
Scroll up; there's a link to the Horseshoe Directory (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/07_eldo_horseshoe_directory.jpg), and other Apocrypha, on the various fake website pages.

....Horsehoe's Par is 67; it should take roughly an hour longer to play than Eldo. Many of the holes are like #4 and #7 @ Eldo. There is more elevation change, yet nothing like LAMA. ;)

ANHYZER
Feb 28 2007, 06:14 PM
Hey Slo,

I want to sign up for this tourney, but in 2004 we never got ratings. I did not sign up in 2005 or 2006 because of this. Are you 100% certain that I will get what I pay for this time? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me....

kgomez
Feb 28 2007, 06:30 PM
CENT is going to be there? Do you need a caddy?

ANHYZER
Feb 28 2007, 06:41 PM
We will see based on Slo's response...

slo
Feb 28 2007, 10:10 PM
I wasn't the Director in 2004. In 2002 it was Chris Blampain; 2003 was Rhett, then Jerry Stratton, then I got annoyed-ed.

....so how'd "I" do last two years, generation-wise?? :)

ANHYZER
Mar 01 2007, 03:11 AM
I wasn't blaming you, just stating the facts of my only experience with the event itself. I am wondering since we will be playing on a temporary course...So, are you certain we will get ratings for the event?

discette
Mar 01 2007, 09:22 AM
Steve turned in his PDGA reports ON Time the last two years. That is how you get ratings - the TD turns in the stuff to the PDGA. I will vouch for Steve. You will get ratings if you play. And, you will probably get your temp ratings by Tuesday morning as So Cal asks all TD's to upload scores to PDGA within 48 hours. (Maybe Steve can do updates after the first rounds on Saturday, too!)

ANHYZER
Mar 01 2007, 11:54 AM
Cool. Thanks for responding.

slo
Mar 01 2007, 02:51 PM
I am certain; just not positive. :o

slo
Mar 01 2007, 03:07 PM
Now that the Teesign order is in, I have time to pause and thank those who've helped, materially and otherwise, so far:
The first 23 to order a CFR [there may yet be a lucky 2-3 more];

Friendly, supportive Businesses Champ's Deli Restaurant, Discovering the World, INNOVAs [West, and East], Lifetime Sports in La Mirada, Mars Printing in Cerritos, Quest Advanced Technologies [Gateway], So Cal Biz Solutions;

Volunteers Dan Duron, Nick Karanzias, Carole Loken, Jerry Murphy, slo, The Southern California Disc Golf Association, Ted Stryker;

Patrons the Duron Family, Bill Henley, Debbie Thorpe, Tracey Thorpe, and The Legend of El Dorado, 360� Pat Shea.
:)

...thank you one and all; you contribute mightily to the full glorious spectacle, which is the El Dorado Open experience.

ANHYZER
Mar 01 2007, 03:45 PM
If I come up this Saturday, will the Eldo layout be in the tourney set-up? Also, can I walk the temporary course to see what the terrain is like, and will the tees and basket locations be easy to determine?

slo
Mar 01 2007, 09:30 PM
<font color="blue"> If I come up this Saturday, will the Eldo layout be in the tourney set-up? </font> This Saturday? Doubtful; they [ 9 baskets] change weekly.<font color="blue"> Also, can I walk the temporary course to see what the terrain is like, and will the tees and basket locations be easy to determine? </font> IF you are able-bodied, and able-minded [I am not the one to determine this] the above map, and directory, [see links] in conjunction with paint/flagging [see playing surface] should suffice nicely. ;)

slo
Mar 02 2007, 01:20 PM
[bump]
Horseshoe (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id35.html) info:

slo
Mar 02 2007, 02:41 PM
A shot of some actual El Dorado Open Art:http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/discs_11_mini_240h.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/discs_11_mini_600h.jpg).....click, etc.

....here's a [rare] shot of 11s', and 10's [rare] Art: http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/discs_11_mini_x240h.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/discs_11_mini_x600h.jpg).....click, etc.

slo
Mar 02 2007, 11:36 PM
83 AMs (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Open) registered presently. :p
So if you haven't it's too, etc.

....83 the largest AM field, or any Flight really, since Larry Bell packed the 2001 Pro/AM with 169. :eek:

slo
Mar 02 2007, 11:42 PM
You are "in"; odd that I saw you in DGMag today; it was just there open, on the Bench.

grizzly09
Mar 03 2007, 12:38 AM
You are "in"; odd that I saw you in DGMag today; it was just there open, on the Bench.


Cool. Thanks. Yeah , we took that picture up in Arcata at the Humboldt State course. It's me looking down from on top of the basket to the camera that's underneath.
That might've been one of the 100s of copies we have that we put on the course for people. It just so happens that it's opened to the picture of me. :cool:

slo
Mar 03 2007, 10:23 PM
Sorry; NO waiting list either; the only way now is entering through the Pro Flight, and even THAT is iffy, Mail-Timewise. :p

slo
Mar 03 2007, 11:00 PM
139 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537) and counting; one short of 2005. Next 'benchmark' would be @148; biggest in 5 years.

slo
Mar 06 2007, 02:23 AM
[bump]
Horseshoe (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id35.html) info:

slo
Mar 06 2007, 12:55 PM
....8 women in one Division�when's the last time that happened?!?

discette
Mar 06 2007, 02:16 PM
....8 women in one Division�when's the last time that happened?!?



Last weekend at the Memorial. There were 33 women players including two divisions with 11 players each.

However, this is the only time (outside the U S Women's Championships) that I have seen that many Intermediate Women in one division.

slo
Mar 06 2007, 02:34 PM
Well, The Bob is quite a measuring stick, to-be compared-to. Wow, 33 Women; that's just outstanding!

Locally, 8 AMs is the SoCal Womens' tally, @ last Years' Champs, over 3 Divisions. Event-wise, I like the MASS-Division idea for the reasons of big points, and also the idea of having a "Top Card"; there's actually a chance of moving up/down.

.....I get a certain amount of 'credit', for better-or-worse, and in keeping with the Spirit , here's my Pledge: Anyone who begins, or competes, rating-wise as a "Rec" will get a "Doorprize". And my thanks. :cool:

slo
Mar 07 2007, 05:26 PM
Now up to 17 Women in a Field of 149; "Eldo" meets a humble goal of exceeding, once again, the previous year's tot. I'm realistically hoping for 18+. :)

dmpdisc
Mar 07 2007, 06:34 PM
Sorry if I've missed this somewhere in the thread, but how many holes will we play on the East course? The flier mentions 19-hole layout, whereas map shows 21.

I'm planning to practice on Friday and wanted to be sure to play everything that will be used.

katothepug
Mar 07 2007, 08:10 PM
I would suggest to add the 19 holes from the flyer to the 21 holes from the map, then multiply that by your pdga number, then divide that by your player rating. That should get the correct number of holes, give or take a few.

ANHYZER
Mar 07 2007, 08:17 PM
Dan Duron did a great job with the temp course. He was even sly enough to position the tee pads to negate thumbers...

rizbee
Mar 07 2007, 08:46 PM
Tees under trees?

quickdisc
Mar 07 2007, 11:21 PM
Nice Map !!!

Horseshoe (http://home.earthlink.net/~trisim/id35.html)

slo
Mar 08 2007, 03:12 AM
Now up to 19 Women in a Field of 156 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Open).
....now the largest field since 169, in 2001. :p

slo
Mar 08 2007, 03:15 AM
[19 just part of the 'legendary' aspect] 21.

slo
Mar 08 2007, 03:22 AM
Tees under trees?


Claro si; clear alleys but trees everywhere....I was impressed with how the 'lumber' was used, to mandate/prevent airways. But 'hand' friendly, too. Very well thought out design, going on. By the way, Dan has an injury, one which prevents any playing; please send along well-wishes, when y'all see him this Weekend. :cool:

rhett
Mar 08 2007, 03:11 PM
On Saturday morning, do the pros check-in at the temp course and the ams check-in at the regular course, or is there a single grand unifed check-in location that all players go to?

ANHYZER
Mar 08 2007, 04:02 PM
To each their own...

slo
Mar 09 2007, 02:40 AM
Saturday Morning, check-in where you're going to play, so the first one.

Wow; it's getting huger, and hugerer....now 165 are slated to play. :eek:

slo
Mar 09 2007, 11:16 PM
173 have paid, and the weather looks fine: This should be a huge Meet; size, points, and experience-wise.

grizzly09
Mar 10 2007, 01:10 AM
i can't wait!!!!!!
I don't know if i'll be able to sleep.

rizbee
Mar 10 2007, 01:27 PM
i can't wait!!!!!!
I don't know if i'll be able to sleep.


OK kid, it's up to you to represent Team Rizbee! Daddy wants some merch!!!!!

slo
Mar 11 2007, 03:27 AM
<font color="red"> REMEMBER THE TIME CHANGE</font>!!!

Round 2 Scores (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537)

quickdisc
Mar 11 2007, 07:59 PM
Nice!!!!! :D

quickdisc
Mar 11 2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Open

slo
Mar 11 2007, 10:37 PM
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6537#Open



I'm not sure if I can break ties, and D. Kline and D. Kline needed a bit of paper trailing, but they should be correct.....that's the first time I've used 'update', however.

....thanks everyone for coming; being the Event. :)

c_trotter
Mar 11 2007, 11:37 PM
I would like to thank Slo, Dan Duron, and SoCal Disc Golf for putting on a very fun event!! I will most likely be back next year.

PLEASE keep the temp course!

c_trotter
Mar 11 2007, 11:41 PM
Thanks for quick results!

Will the par be corrected on the TD report. I think it is affecting ratings a huge amount on the Horsehoe Lake Course. 55 is WAY better than 1037 or whatever it is. I think it should be in the 1050-1060 range. It is a smoking score.

Congrats to Sprague and Cup for shredding it!

slo
Mar 12 2007, 12:08 AM
I think the par for Round #3 should be correct, now. :o

slo
Mar 12 2007, 12:10 AM
Chris Sprague 16425 1011 56 1043 46 1041 55 1042 -31 157

slo
Nov 02 2007, 02:36 PM
....we're 'penciled-in' for the week AFTER the Bob West Memorial, for those whom plan well-in-advance: 15-16 March 2008.

We again plan competition over two courses, namely locally world famous El Dorado Park DGC, and the now-legendary Horseshoe Lake "temp" layout, SoCal's finest course, 2 days/year.

grizzly09
Nov 02 2007, 10:43 PM
Sounds great.

I love that temp course.

slo
Nov 06 2007, 01:54 PM
A huge component of having the second course is people volunteering their Targets for use during the event.

....as Dan's shoulder is better now, and he plans to play, anyone wishing to 'pledge' use of their Target can do through myself via my new addy, [email protected] [the old one is basically a trash receptacle, so don't bother]. Or phone; I'm the only "Loken" in Westminster.

.....also, I am penciled-in to attend the SoCal Banquet in Riverside Dec. 9, if you prefer to 'commit' in person.

p.s. The now-legendary Horseshoe layout is tentatively set @ 22 holes, so the need is even greater in 2008.

topdog
Nov 07 2007, 01:13 AM
Again you guy pick the same weekend as The St patricks Classic in NorCal. Why do you put it the same weekend as an A tier?

discette
Nov 07 2007, 10:52 AM
Again you guy pick the same weekend as The St patricks Classic in NorCal. Why do you put it the same weekend as an A tier?



This is the most logical weekend in March. The weekend before is opposite the Memorial in Phoenix, which actually draws many, many So Cal players. The weekend after is Easter. While this may not be a big religious holiday for some disc golfers, it is a traditional family holiday weekend and many would not be able to attend a two day event. The weekend after Easter is the traditional weekend for EIEIO (opposite St. Pat's Pros.) Then there is the rest of the So Cal schedule to consider. The event is well beyond the 300 mile protection required by PDGA.

topdog
Nov 07 2007, 11:27 AM
Discette

You need to look again for an A tier the distance is 700 miles which is well within that distance.

http://www.pdga.com/documents/td/07TourStandards.pdf

discette
Nov 07 2007, 11:35 AM
Discette

You need to look again for an A tier the distance is 700 miles which is well within that distance. It is nearly 400 miles from Long Beach to Orangevale.

http://www.pdga.com/documents/td/07TourStandards.pdf



Please read the table correctly. The distance between two A tiers is 700 miles. The distance between a B tier and and A tier is 300. According to MapQuest, the distance between Orangevale and Long Beach is 430 miles.

magilla
Nov 07 2007, 02:07 PM
Discette

You need to look again for an A tier the distance is 700 miles which is well within that distance. It is nearly 400 miles from Long Beach to Orangevale.

http://www.pdga.com/documents/td/07TourStandards.pdf



Please read the table correctly. The distance between two A tiers is 700 miles. The distance between a B tier and and A tier is 300. According to MapQuest, the distance between Orangevale and Long Beach is 430 miles.



Its SO nice to see that after all these years North &amp; South STILL cant work together.. :p

magilla
Nov 07 2007, 02:15 PM
Again you guy pick the same weekend as The St patricks Classic in NorCal. Why do you put it the same weekend as an A tier?



This is the most logical weekend in March. The weekend before is opposite the Memorial in Phoenix, which actually draws many, many So Cal players. The weekend after is Easter. While this may not be a big religious holiday for some disc golfers, it is a traditional family holiday weekend and many would not be able to attend a two day event. The weekend after Easter is the traditional weekend for EIEIO (opposite St. Pat's Pros.) Then there is the rest of the So Cal schedule to consider. The event is well beyond the 300 mile protection required by PDGA.



300 mile protection aside...IF you only want 1/2 of the states Pros, thats what you will get.

Whats scheduled the weekend BEFORE Vegas....Wintertime??

Oh wait, we cant pull the "traditional" card or there wouldn't be an arguement for St. Pats, right? :confused:

wouldnt...Wintertime, Eldo, Vegas, Memorial, St Pats...be a nice "mini-Tour"?

But then again...unlike the NT schedule this year, That would make sense.. :p
:D

slo
Nov 08 2007, 04:03 PM
With all the Events, and Winter-weather considerations, is it anywhere-near possible to have NO conflictions, even WITHIN Cali?!? Doesn't seem likely....

....for the record, we again had planned for "OUR" weekend [same as the last SEVERAL years, to honour PDGA Senior-of-theYear, The Legend of El Dorado], but NT Da BOB sto....er, 'took' that weekend for itself.

I guess technically, we could've 'demanded' 8-9 March, AGAIN, what with Horseshoe being 402 miles from Fountain Hills, yet are deigning, respectfully, to wishes of SOCAL, as part of the 'bigger picture'. That's as-it-should be; no regrets!

I'm sorry we can't accomodate ALL the Norki AMs; last year required 5-somes, and Ghostcarding, towards NOT turning people away from our popular event....yet how many AMs were planning BOTH, anyways?!? Sorry; blame Arizona!!!

magilla
Nov 08 2007, 05:49 PM
I'm sorry we can't accomodate ALL the Norki AMs; last year required 5-somes, and Ghostcarding, towards NOT turning people away from our popular event....yet how many AMs were planning BOTH, anyways?!? Sorry; blame Arizona!!!



OK....Now that I look further, I see it conflicts with the St Pats AMS....NOT the PRO...which is what I had thought was the case. :o

This conflict WILL NOT impact the attendence of the St Pats AMS in ANY WAY.. :cool:
:D

slo
Nov 10 2007, 12:49 AM
Magilla said:
wouldnt...Wintertime, Eldo, Vegas, Memorial, St Pats...be a nice "mini-Tour"?



as it stands...........2008 TOUR.........[2007]
Oak Grove Pros.......Not Yet Scheduled [3rd Weekend, Feb]
Lost Wages, NV......4th Feb/1st Mar Weekend [4th Feb]
Phoenix, AZ...........2nd March Weekend [1st]
El Dorado..............3rd March Weekend [2nd]
Orangevale Pros.....5th March Weekend [3rd]

....Get Huntington [Orange County][2nd April Weekend] to follow St Pats, and call it the "Orange...You Glad" Tour� :D

grizzly09
Nov 10 2007, 02:31 AM
Magilla said:
wouldnt...Wintertime, Eldo, Vegas, Memorial, St Pats...be a nice "mini-Tour"?



as it stands...........2008 TOUR.........[2007]
Oak Grove Pros.......Not Yet Scheduled [3rd Weekend, Feb]
Lost Wages, NV......4th Feb/1st Mar Weekend [4th Feb]
Phoenix, AZ...........2nd March Weekend [1st]
El Dorado..............3rd March Weekend [2nd]
Orangevale Pros.....5th March Weekend [3rd]

....Get Huntington [Orange County][2nd April Weekend] to follow St Pats, and call it the "Orange...You Glad" Tour� :D



Nice :) :cool:

discette
Nov 12 2007, 08:48 AM
Here are confirmed (and pending) dates for So Cal Series events and others in the region:

NorCal/SoCal Challenge 1/12 - 1/13
Ice Bowl in Paradise 1/26
27th Wintertime Open - Ams 2/9 - 2/10
27th Wintertime Open - Pros 2/16 - 2/17
Gentlemen's Club Challenge 2/29 - 3/2
The Memorial 3/6 - 3/8
El Dorado Open 3/16 - 3/17
EIEIO TBA - March
Sylmar Open 4/5
Higher Flyer Memorial 4/12 - 4/13
Evergreen Open 4/26 &amp; 4/27
Summertime Open TBA - May
Fling XII - TBA - June
Golden State Classic 6/20-22
Sun Valley Open 9/6-9/7
US Masters Disc Golf Championship 9/12-9/14
Coyote Classic - TBA October
So Cal Championships - Ams 11/1-11/2
So Cal Championships - Pros 11/8-11/9

csrenda79
Nov 12 2007, 10:09 AM
The Memorial is March 6-8. They are starting on Thursday this year. Also, the GCC in Vegas is Feb. 29-Mar. 2. Any clue on the Morley Spring Fling or Sunrise Showdown dates? I notice Santa Maria is absent as well.

discette
Nov 12 2007, 10:36 AM
No dates yet for Morley Spring Fling.

Sunrise will not happen this year unless a new TD steps up to take on the challenge.

No information yet from Santa Maria.

csrenda79
Nov 12 2007, 10:49 AM
Thanks for all the info Suzette. Makes it easier to start next year's planning. Hopefully someone steps up and TD's Sunrise this year. It would be a shame to lose one of the most fun events on the schedule.

slo
Nov 12 2007, 08:21 PM
as it stands...........2008 TOUR.........[2007]
Oak Grove Pros.......Not Yet Scheduled [3rd Weekend, Feb]
NT Event NV......4th Feb/1st Mar Weekend [4th Feb]*
Phoenix, AZ...........2nd March Weekend [1st]
El Dorado..............3rd March Weekend [2nd]
Orangevale Pros.....5th March Weekend [3rd]



Yes, we are also confident Orangevale will be able to 'replace' their AMs who had to decide betwixt the two Meets....

* Higher Tiers dictate what the lowers do, etc....for events with DOUBLE the # of weekends, the PRO date is used, natch. Not because of the $$, nor even skill, but the Pro game = more commitment, least we forget, so &gt;&gt;&gt; priority. :p

slo
Nov 15 2007, 09:51 PM
Here are confirmed (and pending) dates for So Cal Series events and others in the region:

NorCal/SoCal Challenge 1/12 - 1/13
Ice Bowl in Paradise 1/26
27th Wintertime Open - Ams 2/9 - 2/10
27th Wintertime Open - Pros 2/16 - 2/17
Gentlemen's Club Challenge 2/29 - 3/2
The Memorial 3/6 - 3/8
El Dorado Open Sat-Sun 3/15-16
EIEIO TBA - March
Sylmar Open 4/5
Higher Flyer Memorial 4/12 - 4/13
Evergreen Open 4/26 &amp; 4/27
Summertime Open TBA - May
Fling XII - TBA - June
Golden State Classic 6/20-22
Sun Valley Open 9/6-9/7
US Masters Disc Golf Championship 9/12-9/14
Coyote Classic - TBA October
So Cal Championships - Ams 11/1-11/2
So Cal Championships - Pros 11/8-11/9



The Sat &amp; Sun part, "for sure"....the [old] dates in Discette's earlier posting didn't reflect the 'leap back' one day after March 29 . :o
But I checked the calender; March 15-16, that's the plan! ;)

Everything else looks OK...a couple [i]early 3-day events, one starting on a [Practice Day]WEDnesday [ouch!] break the norm.