What is the proper procedure to becoming a certified official? :cool:

Info link on the Rules page:

www.pdga.com/rules/official.php (http://www.pdga.com/rules/official.php)

Yeah but do you ever actually get your officials card?

I have one.

Me too!

Yeah but do you ever actually get your officials card?



*looks in wallet*

yep!

I keep my officials card on the outside of my bag to freak the players on my card!

*looks in wallet*

Nope still not there after three months.

Then send an email or call the PDGA office. I was certified in Sept and received my card a couple of days later.

From what I understand they send out the cards in batches. It took me a couple months to get mine, I had gotten an email saying that it would get sent out in the next batch and it did.

I dont have it now though since I lost my wallet a few weeks back, probably email and get a new one I guess.

Thanks for all the replies...Hopefully soon I will become a certified official!!!

They might have a hard time giving it to you with that avitar :o

Has the officials test been changed at all in the last year or so?

There was a new batch of tests created (5 different ones maybe?) after the newest rules went into effect. I had to wait a few weeks after I applied because the tests had not been completely created then (Feb. 2006)

Thanks, I was wondering because last summer I finished most of the test but never finished it completely. I guess I have to start over now with the new TD test.

Thanks, Jroc.

No problem....it may be the same one since it was just last summer.

I'm a certified Official. Is there another test to take to becoming a Tournament Director or Marshall ?

Thanks in advance ,

Donny Olow
[email protected]

If you are a certified official, you can be a tournament director. That is the only qualification to be a TD.

To be a Marshall, you need to apply to the PDGA and have experience. I believe prospective marshalls take another test to demonstrate their knowledge of the rules.

(Hint: One of the test questions is how to spell 'marshal')

(Hint: One of the test questions is how to spell 'marshal')



guess I should scratch "become a marshall" off my to-do list.

Similar challenge as Harold Duvall and David Duval.

Hummmm, marshall is an acceptable variant of marshal, though it is not considered a common use. Better change the officials test!


(Hint: One of the test questions is how to spell 'marshal')

:D I spelled Marshall in the proper name sense, it looks like. Darn spell checker. I know this guy named Marshall Stevens , the marshal at the Pine Valley course. Maybe that was my mistake. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Anyway , does the marshals test very much from the TD's test ?
How many years experience is needed ? 10 + ?

Anyway , does the marshals test very(sic) much from the TD's test ?



Be glad that there's not a spelling test on it. Your results may vary. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Vary ? :D

He didn't misspell it, he just left one out. ....does test vary very much... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Is there a list of officials somewhere? I think I remember seeing one, but I cant find it. Thanks!!

Click on the Membership link then it's on the right under PDGA Membership Search.

I keep my officials card on the outside of my bag to freak the players on my card!


I think I like this idea. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

the only thing in the disc golf world that i'm top 10 in...

ahead of some of the most storied names in disc golf and the hall of fame :D




sort by date certified :eek:

I keep my officials card on the outside of my bag to freak the players on my card!


I think I like this idea. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



How do I get a Officials card ? I don't have one.

Second post in this thread.

It has been many months and I have not received an official's card. I wish that the process was more agile and that the materials could be delivered more quickly. At least I am in the official's list. Maybe I can print the page...

Call the membership renewal number below and say you are a member of So Cal disc golf and they will send you the officials test for free. 1-888-840-PDGA

Discette, is that a benefit the So Cal Disc Golf club offers to its members, or does that mean members of any PDGA-affiliated club can take the officials test for free?

It's a benefit of being in a PDGA affiliated club.

perfect ;)

Affiliate club info (http://www.pdga.com/club_affiliate/club_affiliate.php)

Mitch,

I remember seeing your name when I first started taking over the Officials' tests. I hate to hear you still haven't received your card. I will look into this tomorrow. Hopefully we have the correct address.

It is true that they used to have to be sent in batches due to the amount of cards a sheet could hold. That is not the case after the next batch. We will be able to process the exams/cards once a week. (Which is my goal)


To anyone else who hasn't received their card, please contact me or I'll never know you don't have your card. Luckily I found this thread.

[email protected]

Thanks in advance and sorry for any delays in the past.

Addie,

I bought the test a few months back, but I didn't take it until just last week. I emailed my answers to Matt Gillis. Is that right? When do you think the next batch will come out?

Thanks.

Hi Alan,

I don't remember yours coming in. I will get with Matt and make sure I have everything from him. He has been doing a lot of work on the courses. The newest versions of the test have my email address. If you'd like, you can resend it to [email protected], but I will check with Matt.

The batches have been going out every two weeks and sooner if I have enough to make a batch. (8 or more) I just sent one off last week so at the latest I will be sending this next one out by the end of the month.

Like I mentioned before, after this next batch, I can send them off regardless of how many come in. They will be done weekly, which will be wonderful!

Thanks in advance for everyone's patience in the meantime.

The process of becoming a certified official is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy and is the main reason I feel that there are some bad tournaments that still happen to this day.

Here is part of an opinion article I once wrote that explains my thoughts on the certified offical process:

So you want to run a PDGA tournament? It's actually pretty simple. All you have to do is take an open book test. This test is so simple; it's ridiculous. When I took it, I asked my roommate at the time, who had played disc golf maybe five times ever, to take the test and he only missed three of the 25 questions (I made a 100 and his answers were compared to mine). Yes I totally understand that the point of this test is to make sure the player can find and more importantly interpret a rule correctly. My point is that there should be more standards to becoming an official.

Right now, my former roommate could pay 55 bucks for a membership and a test, then pass it, then become a PDGA official. Then all he has to do is grab 50 more bucks, fill out a piece of paper, email it in, and he is running a tournament. There has got to be another standard added to the process of becoming an official. I believe that anyone who has applied to be an official should have to write some sort of essay or fill out some sort of application to summit before a panel of people. This application could include information like "played in 20 PDGA tournaments including worlds" or "helped this club run this event for five years." Until we do something like this, bad tournaments will be run and the PDGA can do nothing about it.

Eons ago I remember seeing some of the questions to become a TD for the USCF. One question I remember required coming up with an optimized schedule for two teams playing at a certain distance apart, minimizing distance traveled, number of weekends, etc. (or something like that. It was a long time ago) Anyway. The official's test is fine. If we wanted a higher level TD test, then open-ended questions could be better used. An example question would be:
"Given a tournament on an 18 hole course with the following break down of players 26 MPO, 33 MA1, 6 FPO, 20 MM1, and 2 MJ1. How do you group the players 1st round? 2nd round?"

But of course, a potential TD would say forget it. I'm not sanctioning and go along his merry way with an unsanctioned tourney.

Now you are arguing two different things.

Should there be a TD examination (and therefore a TD handbook to study) before a person can sanction an event ?

There have been players who took three times until they passed the test... :o

I respectfully disagree with MTL that it should be harder to be a Tournament Director. I don't think experience is necessary. If an event needs a new TD to replace one that is stepping down, or a club wants to host it's first PDGA event, they need to be able to use any Certified Official willing to do the job. We all have to start somewhere.

I agree with the PDGA policy of not allowing first time TD's to run A or NT events, but any Certified Official should be allowed to volunteer to run a C or D-tier event. In many areas there is only one person willing to step up and volunteer to run events, and they should be allowed to do so. If they don't perform well, the PDGA can decide not to sanction the event the following year.

I agree with everything you said!

Notice I didn't say anything about anything you said. All I was saying is that there should be an application process to be a TD.

I'm all for new people running tournaments. It grows the sports and makes the life of a TD like myself even easier (more help).

All I am saying is that there are events out there and the PDGA needs a way to monitor who is running thier events!

Great post btw.

There have been players who took three times until they passed the test... :o



[cough] [cough] I have no idea about who you might be referencing. But I think this player and PDGA #33 are "best friends" [cough] [cough]

This couldn't be a person responsible for causing the deterioration of one of the best A/B tiers in the south, or could it? Or the person who has caused one of the greatest female players of all time to avoid events he is either running or participating in.

Couldn't be the same person? Could it?

BTW, I think I might have missed one question, maybe? It was actually pretty simple. But we do need more certified officials and TD's. I like the idea of keeping my officials card on the outside of my bag. If only for an intimidation factor.

There are more than one over the years who have struggled with the open book test, not all living in the south...

I ordered my test this morning. :p
I'm interested in doing more tournaments in my area (Carbondale, CO) and I think we only have one other certified official here, TJ Laurance (Innova). I'm pretty sure we're not having an Ice Bowl this year because TJ is too busy. I'm hoping I can help.

I think certified officials should be tested every year, and here's why.

I was playing with a guy [who is a certified offical] at a tournament in Denver last fall. I noticed that one of the players in our group was doing foot faults (going over the line on the tee, which was extended). There were four of us in the leader group. I called the player on the fault, warned him, and voiced this to the rest of the group. Later, the player did it again, and the player [who is certified] called him on it (NOTE: The player doing the foot fault was also in the lead). The certified offical player told the guy to re-tee, but the player ignored his request. The other players in the group didn't really pay attention to the call, and so it was just ignored. The best player in our group that final round came in second by 1 stroke, and would have won had he been paying attention to the seriousness of the call.
The certified official in question got his card in 2003, and I'm not sure he even knew what to do.
Here's my question, do you think it would be good to have people get certified every year, or loose it, so they realize the importance of being a certified official? The guy in question is a great guy, but I'm not sure that he thought it was very important to press the rule.
Having to get certified every year might impress the importance of having a card, and that if you want to be a certified official, you need to be actively ready to enforce the rules, especially when an infraction is happening right in front of you.

Now you are arguing two different things.

Should there be a TD examination (and therefore a TD handbook to study) before a person can sanction an event ?



That's the tension of the problem. Until being sanctioned (or being sanctioned at a higher level) becomes a defacto requirement for tournaments, any additional requirements of TDs is hard to enforce (take the amazing delay for some TDs to turn in reports w/o any detriment to future sanctioning). At this point the PDGA needs the TDs more than the TDs need the PDGA.

If you were going to require tougher standards for TDs (say B tier and up), then there needs to be more of a benefit for TDs to actually sanction a B tier. From the TDs perspective a B vs C decision comes down to do they want to work harder at getting more sponsorship and pay more to the PDGA vs the "privilege" of calling it a B tier. The only difference is the points the players can earn. This doesn't really help push the TD up a level. Now if a higher level of TD certification was required for B and up, a TD will just opt for the easier requirements and go C. But if there was something in it for the TD, say online registration through pdga.com and that registration automatically filled out the excel spreadsheet, a TD might be inclined to work those extra hours for sponsorship and pay the PDGA the extra $100-$200 that is required for a B tier for the privilege.

That all said, I think the official's test is sufficient (btw retesting once a year would add too much cost for the benefit). A higher level of certification for a TD is a good thing and should increase the quality of the TD, but w/o other incentives, it aint gonna happen.

Good idea, but maybe every 2-3 years.

OK, I'll bite.

Here is a question based on your account.

This is what I read, please correct me if I got it wrong.

You were in the lead group with another certified official.
Another player (not the other certified official) committed a foot fault on the tee off. You called it, but it was not seconded. You issued a warning, but allowed play to continue.

The previously warned player committed a foot fault on a subsequent tee off, and this time the other certified official seconded the call. The offending player ignored the call as well as the remaining player in the group.

Here is what I would say if I were the TD or marshal and approached with this situation:
1. The first foot fault "warning" was nice, but doesn't count for anything but friendly advice since it was not seconded (a certified official can not act as an official within their own division).
2. The second foot fault that was validly called and seconded required the offending player to re-tee and acted as a warning to penalty strokes that would follow if it happened again.
3. Since the player ignored the two officials on the card and played an invalid lie, I would go with a 2-stroke penalty for misplaying the hole as opposed to the harsher penalty associated with circumventing the rules.

The point is that in either case, it appears that you were trying to apply the rules differently than I would have. You stated that you warned the player after the first call, even though it was not seconded. Since you voiced the warning to the rest of the card, you must have thought the call to be valid. No throw that involves a validly called foot fault may be used by the player. The warning applies to the penalty stroke. The second call (which was really the first valid call) should require a re-tee, but should not carry a penalty.

In my opinion, ignoring two officials with rule books should earn a disqualification.

Keep in mind that a person can't act as a certified official in the group or division that he/she is competing in. Thus, the 'official' was just a regular player at that point. If no one else seconded the call (sounds like it from your 'didn't really pay attention to the call' statement), then there is no infraction. Recertification wasn't the issue, players refusing to get involved with the call was the issue. Fairly common situation that keeps coming up as players generally are uncomfortable with getting involved in calling rules infractions.

Not saying that recertification shouldn't be considered. I got my cert back in 98, and much has changed since then.

I told you to correct me if I read it wrong. :cool:

I just reread the post and see that both times the player in question was called for a foot fault, no one bothered to second the call. No second, no call.

804.09.D

The player in question should have gotten a consensus prior to continuing play and thrown a provisional tee shot if there was still some question about the call.

One more thing: making certified officials take the test every year will do absolutely nothing to improve the scenario above. Taking the test agains will not make anyone any less of a dick for calling a rules infraction, and re-testing will not get the officials to call more infractions within their cards.

Amen to that. Everybody wants someone else to make the call.

Good idea, but maybe every 2-3 years.

OK, I'll bite.

Here is a question based on your account.

This is what I read, please correct me if I got it wrong.

You were in the lead group with another certified official.
Another player (not the other certified official) committed a foot fault on the tee off. You called it, but it was not seconded. You issued a warning, but allowed play to continue.

The previously warned player committed a foot fault on a subsequent tee off, and this time the other certified official seconded the call. The offending player ignored the call as well as the remaining player in the group.

Here is what I would say if I were the TD or marshal and approached with this situation:
1. The first foot fault "warning" was nice, but doesn't count for anything but friendly advice since it was not seconded (a certified official can not act as an official within their own division).
2. The second foot fault that was validly called and seconded required the offending player to re-tee and acted as a warning to penalty strokes that would follow if it happened again.
3. Since the player ignored the two officials on the card and played an invalid lie, I would go with a 2-stroke penalty for misplaying the hole as opposed to the harsher penalty associated with circumventing the rules.

The point is that in either case, it appears that you were trying to apply the rules differently than I would have. You stated that you warned the player after the first call, even though it was not seconded. Since you voiced the warning to the rest of the card, you must have thought the call to be valid. No throw that involves a validly called foot fault may be used by the player. The warning applies to the penalty stroke. The second call (which was really the first valid call) should require a re-tee, but should not carry a penalty.

In my opinion, ignoring two officials with rule books should earn a disqualification.



gnduke, thanks for taking time to reply.

I'm not a certified official [yet].

I called the first fault, and the player who is a certified official seconded it. If I understand you correctly, this was an official warning that a penalty would be enforced the next time it happened.
On the second fault � called by the certified official � seconded by me. The other players were not paying attention. The player who faulted for the second time ignored us and kept playing.
We told the TD about this at the end of the round, but he said we couldn't do anything about it since we finished the round already.

What could we have done to better to enforce the rule? And when should be have done it?

Sounds like it was handled correctly within your group.

The player should have been DQed for not playing the course correctly (ie not rethrowing after the second foot fault)

Was there a re-throw after the first warning? That should have gotten the group's attention.

In a situation like that, you should make it a point to get the group's attention. When you pay the same amount to participate in the event as the others do, you have every right to make the group listen to your concern about a possible rule infraction. Carry a rule book with you at all times. They're not big or cumbersome, and they will solve a lot of disputes on the spot. Don't let poor sports intimidate you into having a bad time. Make the call and let the group decide.

Since both foot faults in question were called and seconded, then both of them were valid.

All throws that involve a validly called and seconded foot fault must be rethrown.

The first foot fault should have been re-thrown.
The second foot fault should have been re-thrown and a penalty stroke added to the player's score.

A foot fault is a stance violation and the instance of a stance violation carries a warning, all subsequent stance violations carry a 1 throw penalty. Meaning, if you are warned for a falling putt and then foot fault on the tee, you get the penalty stroke for the foot fault on the tee.

Unless it is brought to the TD's attention after the awards have started, it's not too late.

I would recommend any rules related issues be brought to the TD's attention immediately after the round.

Just a comment on the foot faults. I read that the player making the call and a second player on the card were certified officials. This really makes no difference. The only time it makes a difference is if the certified official is performing his/her duties as an official. This cannot occur if the official is playing.

As I understand it, this is to assure a certified official does not abuse their power while playing AND the certified officials, since they are not playing, are focused solely on their job as an official. A player cannot do this.

Just a comment on the foot faults. I read that the player making the call and a second player on the card were certified officials. This really makes no difference. The only time it makes a difference is if the certified official is performing his/her duties as an official. This cannot occur if the official is playing.

As I understand it, this is to assure a certified official does not abuse their power while playing AND the certified officials, since they are not playing, are focused solely on their job as an official. A player cannot do this.



Close, but not quite accurate. An playing official can make calls in other divisions, just not his own. (804.09.C)

I keep my Certified Officials card in my rule book. That way I can hand it to someone while I find the rule they have questions on :cool:.

Just a comment on the foot faults. I read that the player making the call and a second player on the card were certified officials. This really makes no difference. The only time it makes a difference is if the certified official is performing his/her duties as an official. This cannot occur if the official is playing.

As I understand it, this is to assure a certified official does not abuse their power while playing AND the certified officials, since they are not playing, are focused solely on their job as an official. A player cannot do this.



Close, but not quite accurate. An playing official can make calls in other divisions, just not his own. (804.09.C)



A certified official can play and call a foot fault in their own division.. It just still needs a second. They are not allowed to make rulings in their own division. They can have opinions on inbounds and what not as well, but are just subject to the majority opinion of the group they are in.

Just a comment on the foot faults. I read that the player making the call and a second player on the card were certified officials. This really makes no difference. The only time it makes a difference is if the certified official is performing his/her duties as an official. This cannot occur if the official is playing.

As I understand it, this is to assure a certified official does not abuse their power while playing AND the certified officials, since they are not playing, are focused solely on their job as an official. A player cannot do this.



Close, but not quite accurate. An playing official can make calls in other divisions, just not his own. (804.09.C)



A certified official can play and call a foot fault in their own division.. It just still needs a second. They are not allowed to make rulings in their own division. They can have opinions on inbounds and what not as well, but are just subject to the majority opinion of the group they are in.


Yes, in summary: a certified official is still a player in his/her own division and is still expected to make calls as a player under 801.01 like every other player on the course.

Hey Chuck how long does it take them to grade the test, im not trying to rush them just curious

thank you

No idea. I know Matt's torn many ways right now trying to get the two courses ready for the Grand Opening in April. But I don't think he's the only one who does it. I would hope maybe they would prioritize the grading by when the event is coming up where the person needs the test graded.

Jason,

I believe yours arrived today, correct? As stated previously, I will be grading them weekly. You will have a pass/fail answer by Friday.

Good luck! :)

thank you very much
i appreciate you taking the time to answer my question :)

Hooray for Addie!!

I say hurray for Addie as well!

you all grade the test??????I figured you paid the $10 and you are offical. heck the book comes with the test. Does anyone ever fail the test?

Some have taken three times to pass the open book test.

Some have taken three times to pass the open book test.



I think you mean take it four times to pass as they failed it the first three times. :p

three times?
lmao....and now they are officals?
Wow!

I am not sure how it was done before I came onboard, but now you have 2 chances to pass. The make-up exam is said to be more difficult and you must provide the rule # along with your answers. If you fail the second test, you must wait one year before testing again.

Thanks everyone for the props and I appreciate y'all just as much! ;)

I just received a card for another official... how should this be fixed?

Call the office.

I passed the exam several months ago but never got an official's card... who should I contact?

Good idea, but maybe every 2-3 years.

OK, I'll bite.

Here is a question based on your account.

This is what I read, please correct me if I got it wrong.

You were in the lead group with another certified official.
Another player (not the other certified official) committed a foot fault on the tee off. You called it, but it was not seconded. You issued a warning, but allowed play to continue.

The previously warned player committed a foot fault on a subsequent tee off, and this time the other certified official seconded the call. The offending player ignored the call as well as the remaining player in the group.

Here is what I would say if I were the TD or marshal and approached with this situation:
1. The first foot fault "warning" was nice, but doesn't count for anything but friendly advice since it was not seconded (a certified official can not act as an official within their own division).
2. The second foot fault that was validly called and seconded required the offending player to re-tee and acted as a warning to penalty strokes that would follow if it happened again.
3. Since the player ignored the two officials on the card and played an invalid lie, I would go with a 2-stroke penalty for misplaying the hole as opposed to the harsher penalty associated with circumventing the rules.

The point is that in either case, it appears that you were trying to apply the rules differently than I would have. You stated that you warned the player after the first call, even though it was not seconded. Since you voiced the warning to the rest of the card, you must have thought the call to be valid. No throw that involves a validly called foot fault may be used by the player. The warning applies to the penalty stroke. The second call (which was really the first valid call) should require a re-tee, but should not carry a penalty.

In my opinion, ignoring two officials with rule books should earn a disqualification.



gnduke, thanks for taking time to reply.

I'm not a certified official [yet].

I called the first fault, and the player who is a certified official seconded it. If I understand you correctly, this was an official warning that a penalty would be enforced the next time it happened.
On the second fault � called by the certified official � seconded by me. The other players were not paying attention. The player who faulted for the second time ignored us and kept playing.
We told the TD about this at the end of the round, but he said we couldn't do anything about it since we finished the round already.

What could we have done to better to enforce the rule? And when should be have done it?


You acted properly at the right time. The first time he was called and seconded he should re-tee with a warning no penalty, but he chose to ignore you and played on. Question: did the other players not see it or did they choose to not support you?
The second time he was called and seconded he should re-tee with a penalty stroke, again he chose to ignore you and played on.
The TD dropped the ball here. It is clear that the player deserved at least a two stroke penalty and possibly a disqualification. As a TD I would have wanted to talk to the player and the others in the group to determine the severity of the penalty, but it is clear he deserved one.

I took my official test about a week ago. I was wondering when to expect a result. It doesn't seem like a multiple choice test that was submitted online should take so long to grade. Other online tests that I was required to take for school and work took fractions of a second to grade.

I'm surprised they are still testing officials under the old (current) rules because every current official will need to take the online officials test being prepared to cover the new rulebook effective Jan 1, 2011.

I'm surprised they are still testing officials under the old (current) rules because every current official will need to take the online officials test being prepared to cover the new rulebook effective Jan 1, 2011.

Somebody catch me up here.
Is there a secret link to the new rule book online? All I see so far is the old one (current one)

As a CO or TD is one on the way in the mail to me?

Or is the only way to get one is renew for 2011 as a player?

Ron

Items listed as Passed in the Status column will be included in the new rulebook effective Jan 1, 2011: http://pellucid.com/conrad/pdga/rules2011.html All renewed players will get one and I'm sure TDs will get a few in the TD pack prior to their events. Otherwise, they should be available for purchase in the PDGA Store.

Hadn't heard of the retesting coming in 2011. Is a notification of some sort coming to the current certified officials?

I presume it will come when the online test is ready.

I'm surprised the requirement of a retest didn't come sooner. I'll have to watch for it.

I'm surprised they are still testing officials under the old (current) rules because every current official will need to take the online officials test being prepared to cover the new rulebook effective Jan 1, 2011.

I agree. I took the test a few weeks ago and passed. When asking how long it was good for, I was told that I'd have to re-take it once the new rulebook comes out in January. I probably should have been told to wait? Granted, it's only $10, but will I have to take it again?

You will need to take the new test since there are new rules and questions. Gentry told me those handful of people who paid the $10 to take the test since Oct 1 should contact the PDGA office about getting the retesting fee waived.

Retesting fee? Excuse me, but that is a joke.

"Current membership is required to remain a Certified Official. If you do not show as current by April 1st each year, you'll need to retake the exam to become certified again."

I'm not one to be considered in the camp of those think that the PDGA is out to gouge the membership, but there shouldn't be a retesting fee for those that have kept current.

TDs sanctioning events in 2011 will not pay the fee to be recertified and I believe the fee is waived for those who are members of PDGA Affiliated Clubs. The $10 fee has been there for a long time with the requirement for retesting if the Board deems the rules have changed sufficiently. Section 1.1 of the Competition Manual. They have paid a contractor to automate the online testing process for the new rules certification using better code than what was done for the NT rules test last year. Fingers crossed.

You will need to take the new test since there are new rules and questions. Gentry told me those handful of people who paid the $10 to take the test since Oct 1 should contact the PDGA office about getting the retesting fee waived.

Thank you.

TDs sanctioning events in 2011 will not pay the fee to be recertified and I believe the fee is waived for those who are members of PDGA Affiliated Clubs.

The free officials test benefit for affiliated clubs has been dropped for 2011. It was seen as a redundant benefit since (IMO) its presumed that only TD's will want to take the test. So if they still allow you to take the '10 test and you get it free through ACP, go ahead and take it. It could save you $10 next year IF the PDGA decides not to charge again regardless.

How long does the TD have after a tournament to turn in the scores, before they are disregarded and useless for a rating?

About January 15th of the year after the year the event ran. In the last five years, only one event in Alaska was never received by the yearend deadline for processing. All other 5000 events or so got ratings that could get them.

Perfect! So if there was a tourney on Jan. 1 2011, they basically have the whole season to get it in. Good to know. Thanks CGK

In theory, but the Tour Director will be beating down the door to get the report much sooner than that. The TD risks losing their sanctioning privileges for not meeting the reporting pledge they signed off on, let alone an increasing number of player "lynch mobs" for TDs not posting scores, sending in results, and most importantly, PDGA member fees and info which are typically high volume in the early months of the year.

Alright Mr. Kennedy I just took my officials exam and passed but I do not agree with one of the questions I was marked wrong on.

Erased for security purposes ;-)

I guess I assumed there were many questions that were chosen at random.

I agree there might be a problem. I wasn't involved in creating or reviewing the questions and just saw them today. I've already communicated back to PDGA HQ on this one. BTW, I don't think it's a good idea posting the questions and discussing them online, even though it's an open book test.

[QUOTE=canonico69;1446791]Alright Mr. Kennedy I just took my officials exam and passed but I do not agree with one of the questions I was marked wrong on.

Erased for security purposes ;-)

I guess I assumed there were many questions that were chosen at random.[/

Many people missed that one....and the answer is not right....Just saying

Does an 8 year old really have to pass the test to play in a Major ???

Does an 8 year old really have to pass the test to play in a Major ???
id bet even if he doesnt he still has to pay the $10