Gimmie_tha_Roc
Jan 02 2007, 11:48 AM
During a recent round the disscussion came up as to how close a disc has to be to be considered "parked". There are a number of factors that you have to take into consideration. My buddy argued that if it is an easy put then it is parked. If thats the case, the better you are, the bigger the parked area would be.
I think that the lenght of the hole also has something to do with it , as if you are 25 ft away on a 500 ft hole, you pretty much parked it, but if you are 25 ft away on a 200 ft dinker then you aren't parked, you need to be within 5 feet to be parked on such a hole.
So what does everyone think?

Alacrity
Jan 02 2007, 12:05 PM
I would say that parked is a 100% putt. The problem is, as you mentioned, dependent upon the player. I look at 15 foot and in as parked, but I know a lot of players that get shakey at 15 foot, so for them it is not parked. I would suggest that parked is anything you can bend over and put into the basket. Other than that it is too subjective.


During a recent round the disscussion came up as to how close a disc has to be to be considered "parked". There are a number of factors that you have to take into consideration. My buddy argued that if it is an easy put then it is parked. If thats the case, the better you are, the bigger the parked area would be.
I think that the lenght of the hole also has something to do with it , as if you are 25 ft away on a 500 ft hole, you pretty much parked it, but if you are 25 ft away on a 200 ft dinker then you aren't parked, you need to be within 5 feet to be parked on such a hole.
So what does everyone think?

bschweberger
Jan 02 2007, 12:11 PM
Less than 10 feet

MTL21676
Jan 02 2007, 12:13 PM
My favorite phrase....*yes I've heard someone say this*

"I parked it but then I missed the jump putt"

Sharky
Jan 02 2007, 12:42 PM
Well there is parking and there is parking, let me explain:

less than 6 feet : handicapped parking
6-10 feet : parked
11-20 feet : fringe parking

Hope that helped.... BTW the distance of the hole has nothing to do with what is parked, it's all about the putt, also with a fast green the parking is harder....

ck34
Jan 02 2007, 12:49 PM
"Parking" is closer than a "gimme". I think you have to be able to have the reach to just drop in the putt for a park job. So Schweb's park job is maybe 2 feet farther than mine and his gimme might be 5 feet farther than mine :D

dave_marchant
Jan 02 2007, 12:59 PM
Satellite (or "remote"....whatever your airport calls it) parking: parked under the wrong basket.

sandalman
Jan 02 2007, 01:14 PM
if it needs to fly to get to the basket, its not a gimme. parked is within the 100% distance for the player, and has nada to do with the hole length.

ck34
Jan 02 2007, 01:19 PM
A gimme is whatever the other players will "give me". In non-PDGA it's a little more liberal, especially in the older divisions if you have to climb to the pin.

sandalman
Jan 02 2007, 01:25 PM
non-PDGA is more liberal? you arent using "gimmes", even conservative ones, in PDGA play are you???

abee1010
Jan 02 2007, 01:31 PM
If you say "parked" without an additional adjective, then people are generally refering to a drive that is @20ft and in meaning it is a makeable, easy putt but not necessarially a gimmie.

If you say "parked" in conjuction with an adjective to create a phrase such as "silly parked" or "parked the snot out of it" then generally it seems to me that people are refering to a drive that is within 10ft.

harry
Jan 02 2007, 01:35 PM
and if you putt like me....parked is in the basket :D

veganray
Jan 02 2007, 02:14 PM
10-footer & in is parked.

DSproAVIAR
Jan 02 2007, 02:14 PM
CHIPPEWA NATION!

Jeff_LaG
Jan 02 2007, 02:26 PM
A gimme is whatever the other players will "give me". In non-PDGA it's a little more liberal, especially in the older divisions if you have to climb to the pin.



In casual play my cronies abide by a law of diminishing returns: the higher your score on a hole, the further out the gimme range increases. So if you're looking at a 20-footer to save a triple bogey, you'll get that conceded to you. :D

ck34
Jan 02 2007, 02:28 PM
non-PDGA is more liberal? you arent using "gimmes", even conservative ones, in PDGA play are you???



What would be considered a gimme in PDGA play is closer than a non-PDGA gimme even though you don't actually get to take gimmes in PDGA play.

ck34
Jan 02 2007, 02:31 PM
You've only got maybe 3-4 feet of wiggle room to park your car between the lines in a parking slot and only up to 18" from the curb in parallel parking so a disc more than 4 feet away would not be parked if we're getting technical. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

circle_2
Jan 02 2007, 02:34 PM
So is a gimme kinda like 'free' valet parking? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

specialk
Jan 02 2007, 02:40 PM
non-PDGA is more liberal? you arent using "gimmes", even conservative ones, in PDGA play are you???



What would be considered a gimme in PDGA play is closer than a non-PDGA gimme even though you don't actually get to take gimmes in PDGA play.



A gimme in PDGA play is 0'. That's pretty close.

I generally consider the "park" distance as a function of the total length of the hole. I use 2% as a nice round number. Therefore, if the hole is 350', the park distance is 350 x 0.02 = 7'. Of course, "parking" the hole has no real value other than when playing Bingo-Bango-Bongo.

cornhuskers9495
Jan 02 2007, 02:50 PM
10 feet is parked.

Under the Unit, remember to tip your valet for the nice "park" job

specialk
Jan 02 2007, 07:06 PM
I've witnessed a world-class player miss a 10' putt... at the USDGC no less.

circle_2
Jan 02 2007, 07:12 PM
Guess it happens to the best of 'em.

quickdisc
Jan 02 2007, 07:19 PM
I usually tell folks , a body length..............................Approx. 6 feet.

Parkntwoputt
Jan 02 2007, 08:03 PM
I've witnessed a world-class player miss a 10' putt... at the USDGC no less.



Actually I missed a 4' putt, and it was at Worlds.

mr smOOOth
Jan 02 2007, 08:19 PM
That sucks! That is also why the disc has to be within drop-in distance(4 foot or less) for me to claim 'parked'.

TravisBlase
Jan 02 2007, 08:33 PM
I don't think 'parked' necessarily means that it is a sure-thing putt. I threw a 612' slight downhill hole once and landed my drive pin high and about 25' to the right. I missed the ensuing putt (mostly because of the psych-out caused by me knowing that it would be one of, if not the only birdie on that hole ever if I would have made it), but I would consider that shot to be parked.

I think distance from tee to basket definitely plays into weather a shot is parked or not.

I think a gimme is closer than parked too.

quickdisc
Jan 02 2007, 08:46 PM
True.

It is kinda weak though to mark your mini against the pole , let go of your disc into the basket ( Fully release , not just tap the chains ) , then pull your disc out of the basket and pick up your mini , without hitting you head or shoulders or even the top of your back on the basket.

Has anyone else done this or seen this ? :eek:

It's part of the rules , to fully release the disc into the basket. No matter how close. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


Oh , and even if someone asks you to pick up their park job in a tournament , don't do it. You may get charged for playing the wrong disc , even though it's a nice gesture and your being cool to them !!!!!. :eek: Happened to me !!!!!

In practice it might be alright , but in a Tournament Situation , each player MUST finish their own shots played. Even for drop ins !!!!!

ChrisWoj
Jan 02 2007, 10:29 PM
True.

It is kinda weak though to mark your mini against the pole , let go of your disc into the basket ( Fully release , not just tap the chains ) , then pull your disc out of the basket and pick up your mini , without hitting you head or shoulders or even the top of your back on the basket.

Has anyone else done this or seen this ? :eek:

Playing doubles this sunday one of the guys on my card put one under, touching pole, on Vienna (Temperence, MI) 3 from the longs... I told him not to hit his head on the way up and he grinned and said he tends to do it every time unless somebody tells him not to.

(Chuck: It was your partner from the day before, heh)

ck34
Jan 02 2007, 10:39 PM
(Chuck: It was your partner from the day before, heh)



Hope you guys played better than we did.

ChrisWoj
Jan 02 2007, 11:40 PM
(Chuck: It was your partner from the day before, heh)



Hope you guys played better than we did.

He and Mark Kruse did... I was paired with a 750 rated fellow. Waste of a great putting day... heh.

md21954
Jan 03 2007, 10:29 AM
i consider anything closer to the basket than the players' height to be a gimme.

Enterprise Service - we'll pick you up.

Parkntwoputt
Jan 06 2007, 10:07 AM
i consider anything closer to the basket than the players' height to be a gimme.



Kind of discriminatory towards little people don't you think? It's not there fault they are shorter then 4'10".

morgan
Jan 06 2007, 10:30 AM
How can a guy spell discriminitory, and yet he can't spell their or than?

Sharky
Jan 06 2007, 11:44 AM
Perhaps a spell check issue without the grammar filter?

meltyface
Jan 06 2007, 11:55 PM
15 and in, with no wind

rizbee
Jan 07 2007, 02:39 AM
OK, would you say Rhett parked the last shot shown here? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTzLyOtB_LE)

eupher61
Jan 07 2007, 02:49 PM
I'd call it "all but parked", but then it's hard to tell the distance in the video. If it's closer than it looks (to me, it looks like 25 out), it's parked. If it's 25 it's all but parked. The next-to-last shot, where it just hits off the mowed green, is definitely all-but-parked.

Parkntwoputt
Jan 07 2007, 08:35 PM
How can a guy spell discriminitory, and yet he can't spell their or than?



Yet even though I spelled it right, you spell it wrong. LOL! Actually, Firefox has a spell checker plug-in that works great for email and forums. And I never paid attention to English class between 6th and 10th grade....so my grammar is terrible.

"Parked" is what I did to Hole #7 at Calvert Park today yet missed the 10ft putt because I forgot to concentrate.

cbdiscpimp
Jan 08 2007, 12:20 PM
With my putting recently NOTHING is parked unless I can set the disc in the basket!!! I drive like a top pro and putt like a crappy AM 2 player!!! Man I really hope I find my putt cuz if I dont it will be a long rough Rookie season for me :mad:

Jan 09 2007, 12:04 PM
If you have to be careful not to hit your head on the way up.......YOUR PARKED! Enough said.

DSproAVIAR
Jan 10 2007, 07:18 PM
With my putting recently NOTHING is parked unless I can set the disc in the basket!!! I drive like a top pro and putt like a crappy AM 2 player!!! Man I really hope I find my putt cuz if I dont it will be a long rough Rookie season for me :mad:



His 50-60' jumper-for-titles is pretty nice tho.

TooNA
Jan 12 2007, 09:50 AM
Any shot that is just placed in the basket is parked. There is NO putting a parked shot.
IMHO

Lyle O Ross
Jan 12 2007, 04:01 PM
Parked is when your disc is next to the girl's disk so they're just kissing. Doesn't matter where it is, although a secluded spot is preferred.

halton
Jan 12 2007, 04:21 PM
Parked is when your disc is next to the girl's disk so they're just kissing. Doesn't matter where it is, although a secluded spot is preferred.



I believe Ross is on to something here. If we look to the last definition of 'parked':




v. parked, park�ing, parks

v. tr.

1. To put or leave (a vehicle) for a time in a certain location.
2. Aerospace To place (a spacecraft or satellite) in a usually temporary orbit.
3. Informal To place or leave temporarily: parked the baby with neighbors; parking cash in a local bank account.
4. To assemble (artillery or other equipment) in a military park.


v. intr.

1. To park a motor vehicle: pulled over and parked next to the curb.
<font color="red"> 2. Slang To engage in kissing and caressing in a vehicle stopped in a secluded spot.</font>

I hereby define the term parked for disc golf as: 'a tee shot close enough to the basket so that the thrower can kiss the basket from their marked lie'

Lyle O Ross
Jan 12 2007, 04:25 PM
YES! That works for me.

circle_2
Jan 12 2007, 06:53 PM
I hereby define the term parked for disc golf as: 'a tee shot close enough to the basket so that the thrower can kiss the basket from their marked lie'


...and if teeth are broken, the player must demonstrate balance. :o

johnrock
Jan 12 2007, 06:57 PM
And kissing several baskets in one round makes you a hero in the other player's eyes, and a tramp to the rest of the baskets!

5355
Jan 16 2007, 03:13 PM
"A 'parked' Disc"

I drove into the city park the other day. It was a city park and all of my discs were sitting parked in a city park when i parked my vehicle.

I drove into a county park one day. It was a county park and all of my discs were accounted for and parked in a county park when i parked my vehicle.

I drove into a state park the other day. It was a state park and all of my discs were parked in a state park when i parked my vehicle. I would just like to state this.

I drove into the national park one time. It was a national park and all of my discs were parked in a national park when i parked my vehicle.

Man, come to think of it, i park my discs every time I take em with me.......

MikeMC
Jan 17 2007, 01:16 PM
The 10 foot range sounds resonable. If it's a drop in, we call it "valet" or "valet parking". If it's within 25 feet, it's on the "dance floor".

abee1010
Jan 17 2007, 02:20 PM
it's on the "dance floor".



Nice Golden Tee reference.

I can't wait until you can play disc golf on golden tee machines too...

m_conners
Jan 17 2007, 06:16 PM
Parked: Arms length to the bottom of the basket.

Does anyone know what a "tap-in" is?

quickdisc
Jan 17 2007, 07:15 PM
/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

bernie
Jan 20 2007, 02:27 PM
Good Discussion! Here is how we handle it within our group. A shot that is within 5% of the hole distance is described as parked but the putt has to be made to validate it. We laminated valet parking passes and each of us carries a few to hand out. Any validated parked shot earns a valet ticket. At the end of each month, the player with the most tickets gets to hang the 'bling' (playboy bunny belt-buckle spinner), on his bag, for the next month. An ace is auto-bling for the rest of that month. Of course, everything needs to be witnessed by at least one other player in our valet group. It works well and is fun.

eupher61
Jan 22 2007, 07:23 PM
Why is this so important?

chappyfade
Jan 22 2007, 10:25 PM
Why is this so important?



Come on, Steve, you ventured into this thread looking for something important? :cool:

BTW, you can't say you parked the hole and missed the putt. If you missed the putt, you weren't parked.

My $.04 ($.02 adjusted for inflation)

Chap

quickdisc
Jan 23 2007, 07:15 PM
Good Discussion! Here is how we handle it within our group. A shot that is within 5% of the hole distance is described as parked but the putt has to be made to validate it. We laminated valet parking passes and each of us carries a few to hand out. Any validated parked shot earns a valet ticket. At the end of each month, the player with the most tickets gets to hang the 'bling' ( bunny belt-buckle spinner), on his bag, for the next month. An ace is auto-bling for the rest of that month. Of course, everything needs to be witnessed by at least one other player in our valet group. It works well and is fun.


:D