I LIKE THE BERRY BEAST

Roc.

Next question.

Roc.

Next question.



: ) :

after throwing Rocs for 10+ years, I would have to say the COYOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By far superior to any roc I have ever thrown.

Firebird.
Headwind ..........Firebird
Thumber.............Firebird
Forehand............Firebird
Spike Hyzer........Firebird
Forehand roller....Firebird

after throwing Rocs for 10+ years, I would have to say the COYOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By far superior to any roc I have ever thrown.



I agree with most of that, but my vote goes for the BB Aviar.

Roc or Wizard, cant decide

I LIKE THE BERRY BEAST


More specificity please---

Strawberry?
Raspberry?
Huckleberry?

Thanks....

Dingleberry?

The one you enjoy throwing the most.

Aviar of course!!

What other disc has been around for 23 years and is still more popular than ever?

barry shultz beast duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuy :D

Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

FIREBIRD
(next in line: Wizard, TeeBird, Coyote, Wraith)

This is not even close! Roc! DUH!!! Wasp, Buzz, Coyote, etc..... all discs that were made to fly like a ROC!

This thread can be locked now. No more replies are needed. :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;)

Omega Supersoft, I know it is exactly the same as the Aviar but I like the feel in my hand better.

interesting thread...
but there is an interesting fact that is little known in the disc golf community, about the existence of a disc refered to as 'bender'. It was a 174 glo leopard that possessed the ability to turn at near right angles. amazing disc, he will be sorely missed.

Ron

Shark

wizard or element x

leoperd or inferno

Wizard

DX Gremlin, followed ever so closely by BB Aviar.

180g yellow DX ontario Hammer

Buzzzz!!!!!!

Roc

Predator for the same reasons firebird has been said, only better.
Wizard and SOLF are close behind.

wizard or leopard

Firebird! :cool:

The STORM ..............!

When you ace with this disc.........(hold on to your hats)............you can say with confidence:

"That was a PERFECT storm" !

Dlo

Buzzzz!!!!!!



1st run Buzz, Midnight Buzz, 2nd run Buzz, Any Buzz!!!!!

Monster.

I have been playing over a year, and my very first disc was a Champion TeeBird. To this day it is the one disc I have never taken out of the bag. I've experimented with alot of drivers since I've been playing, but the one that I always found to be the most consistent is the TeeBird. I dont know what I would do without this driver! The disc will not get me the distance like my Wraith, Orc, and Starfire, but it is certainly the most accurate driver that I can depend on for all situations. I can do everything imaginable with a TeeBird, and it always stays true. Whenever someone wants to learn how to play I always tell them to get a TeeBird as their driver, and if anyone is looking for a new driver then I always tell them to get a TeeBird. I simply cannot live without this disc and if I had to choose one driver it would be the TeeBird. It is everything you could want from a driver.

Roc! Followed by the Teebird, Cyclone, and Wizard.

Tee-Bird!

i agree with frank da tank a tee bird is the best disc ever made the right behind that its a toss up between a tl or a roc

I've been playing since '83. The discs that have always been with me since they came out is the Aviar and the Roc. My vote is for the Roc.

Roc and Aviar.

The Aviar should really win. This design is more copied than even the Roc.

wizards and warlocks, anything else and your short game is lacking.

Roc and Aviar.

The Aviar should really win. This design is more copied than even the Roc.



ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!!!!!!!

My final 4:

1. Z Storm: If I had to play with only one disc it would be this one...it's a good dog.

2. DX Beadless Aviar Putt & Approach: This disc just feels so good in the DX and it's dead straight.

3. Z XL: If I had to choose a driver that was to be the only driver I could use for the rest of my life, this is it. It also does what I want it to do.

4. Star Wraith: No disc has changed my game as dramatically as this disc. I think this disc has taken my game to the next level.

If I was always limited to only 4 discs when playing...these would be the 4.

I would have to agree with TThe Pro, the Shark is a very reliable disc that actually works really well into a headwind.

the best disc ever is the teerex or a 179 roc.

i disagree, i think its the 180g. roc, that extra gram goes along way

Aviar
Roc
Teebird

that is true :D

i say wizard

no way man!!!! AVIAR!!!!!
:D

no way wizard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let there be...Roc.


sleepy

i would have to add the pro starfire to my list. that disc gave me extra distance when i didn;t ahve the arm now it gives me control and bomb anhyzer shots. great disc.

Aviar/Roc

Firebird's are #1!

wizards and warlocks, anything else and your short game is lacking.



My short game is fine.

ps I throw the TL and Leopard. What's Gateway have to offer for those shots?

Be honest with me cause I know their lineup and their gaps

I'm saying 8x roc....

Here that Innova??????? 8x roc, quit [email protected] with what works in an effort to sell more discs.

Dont bother with retooling the TL either. It's fine the way it is!!!!!

Firebird's are #1!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

wizards and warlocks, anything else and your short game is lacking.



My short game is fine.

ps I throw the TL and Leopard. What's Gateway have to offer for those shots?

Be honest with me cause I know their lineup and their gaps




As a long time Leopard thrower, and now a gateway thrower I would say that for shots that I used my Leopard I go for the Element... Sure its a midrange but it is just as fast and I can perform the same shots with it as I could the Leopard...

Now the TL... I like the TL as well but gateway just doesnt have that disc yet... I know though as they continue to grow they will fill more gaps for the common player and more people will see just how good their plastic is. They are right up there with Innova and Discraft. Plenty of room for everyone!

For best disc I would go with Roc, then Teebird, then Wizard

Now Tank settle down...heh

BS Old Mold Beast Gets my vote (Champ Beast X?)
Dunno why Barry thought a L mold would be better. To me it flies alot different than an Orc.
It was my first choice for a disc for the DV Memorial One Disc Challenge this year since I could toss it forehand and Back Hand and get similar results. (I know I ended up with the Monster X but I thought it would be windy...whatever I won anyway)
This BS Beast was my second driver I ever had and It still has a huge spot in my bag as a go to driver.

in terms of historic innovation and standing the test of time -- hands down -- the Aviar wins.

that said, i'll have to go with the Pro Orc.
how could they stop making them on us? :confused: :( :mad::o:mad::( :confused:

that said, i'll have to go with the Pro Orc.
how could they stop making them on us? :confused: :( :mad::o:mad::( :confused:



Really? I thought that was one of the worst discs made in the last 5 years.

Great right out the box, but hit a tree and it can't even be resurrected as a roller...

Now the Pro Starfire? Oh My! That disc is shaving strokes off my round.

Try that, A great alternative, I think, for what your looking for.

"Cry of Love" by Jimi Hendrix.

Best disc ever.

that said, i'll have to go with the Pro Orc.
how could they stop making them on us? :confused: :( :mad::o:mad::( :confused:



Really? I thought that was one of the worst discs made in the last 5 years.

Great right out the box, but hit a tree and it can't even be resurrected as a roller...

Now the Pro Starfire? Oh My! That disc is shaving strokes off my round.

Try that, A great alternative, I think, for what your looking for.



The Pro Starfire, while an excellent disc, begins to be very inconsistent after about 3 or 4 months of use. The pro plastic becomes beat and so its nothing better than roller. i know because I used to only throw Pro Starfires as my main driver for months. I switched to the Orc and havent looked back. It's the most consistent and can practically do everything a Starfire can but with a touch more of stability. I'm not really knocking the Starfire as I said it is an excellent disc but its use is limited.

that said, i'll have to go with the Pro Orc.
how could they stop making them on us? :confused: :( :mad::o:mad::( :confused:



Really? I thought that was one of the worst discs made in the last 5 years.

Great right out the box, but hit a tree and it can't even be resurrected as a roller...

Now the Pro Starfire? Oh My! That disc is shaving strokes off my round.

Try that, A great alternative, I think, for what your looking for.



Pro Starfires are too flippy and too nose angle dependent. i carry Pro Orcs for a few months on a pretty wooded course and then they become more like Roadrunners -- but for open long distance they are the BEST. i put several away when they were discontinued and now i try only to use them for open shots since their durability (like most Pro discs) isn't so great. maybe you had the first runs -- the second run of Pro Orcs weren't so bad durability wise ;)

I love a Champion Orc can't wait to try the star version but trying to hold off buying discs for a few more weeks. Although the more I throw the Surge the more it seems like a slightly longer Orc.
A disc that I almost talked myself out of buying that I am now considering buying a stack of them is the KC Whippet. I have only had it for a couple of weeks but it seems to have a lot of uses.
After all of that being said my vote is still for............................Omega Supersoft.

i say starfire best disc in the universe /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o:p

You seem to have a lot of best discs ever made! DO you change your mind everyday, or is that you want to keep your thread alive? :p :D

You seem to have a lot of best discs ever made! DO you change your mind everyday, or is that you want to keep your thread alive? :p :D



He's schizophrenic lol

no offense JaLoper

i dont change my mind very often

People who change their minds are idiots.

Well, they are smart.

No, they are idiots.

I think on the other hand, they are smart.

whats your problem

Well, I Believe that the best disc every is either the TeeRex or the Roc

When I say the Roc, I mean the Super Roc from the 05 pro worlds

He's not insulting you. He's being ironic.

to be fair JaLoper you have said up to five discs that are the best ever. (Beast, leopard or inferno, wizard, and the starfire)

The Roc. How many other discs have museums?

Jimi,

Yes you made a good disc with AXIS, any disc you made is better than anything by Innova or Discraft, but I STILL say the Cry Of Love is better than Axis and is the best disc ever made.

Buzz any plastic EXCEPT GT

Jimi,

Yes you made a good disc with AXIS, any disc you made is better than anything by Innova or Discraft, but I STILL say the Cry Of Love is better than Axis and is the best disc ever made.

Morgan, you got issues.

Hands down it has to be the original Aero (then called Eagle). The first beveled-edge disc.
Not that it's that great compared to all the others listed, but without it, none of the others would even exist. Thanks, Dave.

The Best Disc Ever?

What an odd question.

For me it's whichever just went in the basket.

pastor keith

Jimi,

Yes you made a good disc with AXIS, any disc you made is better than anything by Innova or Discraft, but I STILL say the Cry Of Love is better than Axis and is the best disc ever made.

Morgan, you got issues.



Hey if I'm stuck on a desert island with a choice of the best Jimi record or a 1983 Aero Prototype hand-made by Dave himself...I'd take Jimi.

If only I had a record player there!

jimi is great but i would have to say that miles davis kind of blue was the greatest disc ever.

Jloper, is a new player to our sport ! Welcome aboard !

I understand he wants to learn as much about what driver to finally settle on in his bag. (Like all of us beginner's were!)

I hope we can be supportive, and help him if we can constructively, though as we know.................we were all a little schizoid in the beginning !

I do my best as well in providing personal experience, but he likes hearing from other experienced player's as well. So, nice forum here in finding these things out.

Dlo

Dad of Jlope

Oh god, I don't think this message board can accommodate a newby and a DAD of a newby.

I think a good hazing is in order here.

Disc Golf is now becoming..........one big family !!! Ha.


Dlo

Aviar then roc. Aviar is the number one used disc, and the most thrown. You take 40% of your strokes on putts. Roc, well lets just say that the other guys had to make their own :o

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.



Ok whamo and Discraft basically copied the Aviar but saying the others did is stupid.

What's Discraft's copy?

The challenger is close but it has a wider, less raised bead. :p

whats Latitude 64's copy?

What's Discraft's copy?

The challenger is close but it has a wider, less raised bead. :p



The Discraft APX was a near exact copy of an Aviar.
http://discgolf.gottagogottathrow.com/catalog/images/dg/dc-apx.jpg

The APX isn't anywhere close to the Aviar BB, and it has a different nose than the Aviar P&P, so i must be missing the "near" exactness you speak of. I happen to prefer the APX swirl for my main putter.

Again, the Challenger would be the closest, minus the bead differences. :p

What's Discraft's copy?

The challenger is close but it has a wider, less raised bead. :p



soft Challengers seem almost identical to JK Aviar-x's so it follows that hard challengers are almost identical to KC Aviars. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

if you were another manufacturer, obviously Innova set the standard to copy. and the Aviar is the disc that after 22 years has the most world titles -- and the tally keeps on growing :D

<u> disclaimer</u> : the author of this message has no official connection to Innova, though he does hold a wannabe affiliation ;)

The facts are the facts. Imitation is the highest form of flatery.

Long life the Aviar

The TL is probably my second favorite disc ever made, if not my first.

well ok, my second.

of course avair and roc,but which ones

01 usdgc and then beat 10x
10x avair

Driver :confused:
probably teerex

Dont just throw the tee rex, be the tee rex

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.



Ok whamo and Discraft basically copied the Aviar but saying the others did is stupid.



So , your saying the Wizard and the Chief are Not a rounded shouldered Putter with a fraction of a difference in the Cheek of the disc and the rim configuration?

Maybe the Magnet is closer to the Wizard then ?

Round Shouldered Putters.
Look close to the minor changes from the Flight plate , Cheek , Shoulder , Rim depth and Bead , if there is one. Some don't or are worn off.

I kinda know , I have ALL of these and have Thrown all of these at one time or another , including Tournaments.

Most have a Identical Flight path for putting. Just some are more stable in the beginning , than others.

It kinda started with the bluntness of the Puppy and the Super Puppy. Ever throw a Bullet or a Laser ?

These were smaller versions of the 71c* , 42g , 50 , 70 mold and 40F mold golf disc's by Whamo.
Yes , I did win cash as a Pro in 1978 with these Dinosaurs !!!!! :cool:I was 18 at the time !!!! These were the best Disc Golf Discs out at the time !!!!!!

You may also want to ask someone about the Glow version of the 40 mold. ( Brand X ). :eek:

I still dig those old Glow Golf Discs. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

No ALLHyzers here !!!! :eek: :D

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.



Ok whamo and Discraft basically copied the Aviar but saying the others did is stupid.



So , your saying the Wizard and the Chief are Not a rounded shouldered Putter with a fraction of a difference in the Cheek of the disc and the rim configuration?

Maybe the Magnet is closer to the Wizard then ?

Round Shouldered Putters.
Look close to the minor changes from the Flight plate , Cheek , Shoulder , Rim depth and Bead , if there is one. Some don't or are worn off.

I kinda know , I have ALL of these and have Thrown all of these at one time or another , including Tournaments.

Most have a Identical Flight path for putting. Just some are more stable in the beginning , than others.

It kinda started with the bluntness of the Puppy and the Super Puppy. Ever throw a Bullet or a Laser ?

These were smaller versions of the 71c* , 42g , 50 , 70 mold and 40F mold golf disc's by Whamo.
Yes , I did win cash as a Pro in 1978 with these Dinosaurs !!!!! :cool:I was 18 at the time !!!! These were the best Disc Golf Discs out at the time !!!!!!

You may also want to ask someone about the Glow version of the 40 mold. ( Brand X ). :eek:

I still dig those old Glow Golf Discs. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

No ALLHyzers here !!!! :eek: :D



The top shoulder is similar but that is where the similarities stop. The flightplate is thinner than an aviar but thickens up the closer it gets to the rim. Also the Wizard has a convexed wing not an angled bevel like the Aviar. Another thing is that the bead is not on the bottom of the disc like an Aviar but it is actually on the wing of the disc.

so if the simple fact that the top or "shoulder" of the disc is rounded means it is a copy then I guess you are right and the numerous innovations in the design of the wizard such as the wing, flightplate, and bead mean nothing.

Thanks Matt! :cool:

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.



Ok whamo and Discraft basically copied the Aviar but saying the others did is stupid.



So , your saying the Wizard and the Chief are Not a rounded shouldered Putter with a fraction of a difference in the Cheek of the disc and the rim configuration?

Maybe the Magnet is closer to the Wizard then ?

Round Shouldered Putters.
Look close to the minor changes from the Flight plate , Cheek , Shoulder , Rim depth and Bead , if there is one. Some don't or are worn off.

I kinda know , I have ALL of these and have Thrown all of these at one time or another , including Tournaments.

Most have a Identical Flight path for putting. Just some are more stable in the beginning , than others.

It kinda started with the bluntness of the Puppy and the Super Puppy. Ever throw a Bullet or a Laser ?

These were smaller versions of the 71c* , 42g , 50 , 70 mold and 40F mold golf disc's by Whamo.
Yes , I did win cash as a Pro in 1978 with these Dinosaurs !!!!! :cool:I was 18 at the time !!!! These were the best Disc Golf Discs out at the time !!!!!!

You may also want to ask someone about the Glow version of the 40 mold. ( Brand X ). :eek:

I still dig those old Glow Golf Discs. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

No ALLHyzers here !!!! :eek: :D



The top shoulder is similar but that is where the similarities stop. The flightplate is thinner than an aviar but thickens up the closer it gets to the rim. Also the Wizard has a convexed wing not an angled bevel like the Aviar. Another thing is that the bead is not on the bottom of the disc like an Aviar but it is actually on the wing of the disc.

so if the simple fact that the top or "shoulder" of the disc is rounded means it is a copy then I guess you are right and the numerous innovations in the design of the wizard such as the wing, flightplate, and bead mean nothing.



Bingo Matt. None of the molds he mentioned are exact copies/replicas. They are all different in their own way(s).

Speaking of 1983, the best desert island disc would actually be Electric Ladyland. :)
Fly on,
Jimi
3:16

The APX isn't anywhere close to the Aviar BB, and it has a different nose than the Aviar P&P, so i must be missing the "near" exactness you speak of. I happen to prefer the APX swirl for my main putter.

Again, the Challenger would be the closest, minus the bead differences. :p





I beg to differ. If the APX is not "nearly" the same as an Aviar P & A, then no disc has ever been copied in the history of disc golf!!!!

You have got to be kidding me....

All modern putter style discs are "copies" of the Aero/Aviar since these discs are the basis for all similar discs ever made since. Some are very nearly the same, the APX for one. Come on!!!

Then me thinks me must be blind. Before you even thought of playing disc i was putting with P&amp;A's (just a guess based on PDGA #/rating). My index finger was very comfortable on the nose of the P&amp;A which TO ME feels flatter(more square) than the Swirl, which i now putt with. Also looking at the two it's apparent TO ME that the Swirl's nose is a little sharper, or less square if you will. They are close, but not close enough to be called horseshoes or hand grenades. I did choose the Swirl over Dcraft's other putters b/c TO ME it flew MORE LIKE a P&amp;A than the other Dcraft putters. :p

definitely NOT the same mold.

WHATS THE NEWEST DISC EVER

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.



Ok whamo and Discraft basically copied the Aviar but saying the others did is stupid.



So , your saying the Wizard and the Chief are Not a rounded shouldered Putter with a fraction of a difference in the Cheek of the disc and the rim configuration?

Maybe the Magnet is closer to the Wizard then ?

Round Shouldered Putters.
Look close to the minor changes from the Flight plate , Cheek , Shoulder , Rim depth and Bead , if there is one. Some don't or are worn off.

I kinda know , I have ALL of these and have Thrown all of these at one time or another , including Tournaments.

Most have a Identical Flight path for putting. Just some are more stable in the beginning , than others.

It kinda started with the bluntness of the Puppy and the Super Puppy. Ever throw a Bullet or a Laser ?

These were smaller versions of the 71c* , 42g , 50 , 70 mold and 40F mold golf disc's by Whamo.
Yes , I did win cash as a Pro in 1978 with these Dinosaurs !!!!! :cool:I was 18 at the time !!!! These were the best Disc Golf Discs out at the time !!!!!!

You may also want to ask someone about the Glow version of the 40 mold. ( Brand X ). :eek:

I still dig those old Glow Golf Discs. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

No ALLHyzers here !!!! :eek: :D



The top shoulder is similar but that is where the similarities stop. The flightplate is thinner than an aviar but thickens up the closer it gets to the rim. Also the Wizard has a convexed wing not an angled bevel like the Aviar. Another thing is that the bead is not on the bottom of the disc like an Aviar but it is actually on the wing of the disc.

so if the simple fact that the top or "shoulder" of the disc is rounded means it is a copy then I guess you are right and the numerous innovations in the design of the wizard such as the wing, flightplate, and bead mean nothing.



:D Maybe I should have said a ripped off idea from Innova ? Who was first Bia-tch ? :D Everything like the Aviar Type disc from others came later.

The Aviar is still the Original GO TO Putter of World Champions !!!! :D

Then me thinks me must be blind. Before you even thought of playing disc i was putting with P&A's (just a guess based on PDGA #/rating). My index finger was very comfortable on the nose of the P&A which TO ME feels flatter(more square) than the Swirl, which i now putt with. Also looking at the two it's apparent TO ME that the Swirl's nose is a little sharper, or less square if you will. They are close, but not close enough to be called horseshoes or hand grenades. I did choose the Swirl over Dcraft's other putters b/c TO ME it flew MORE LIKE a P&A than the other Dcraft putters. :p



You should not use a PDGA number as any measure of discing time.

I started playing in approximately 1978 in Tulsa when I was in grade school. I played pretty seriously when Aviars were drivers in the late 1980's..

I just started back this last year playing serious again.

I never said the APX was an EXACT COPY of an Aviar, but it is pretty close. Certainly in the same vein.

Call it "Aviar inspired" if you like.

You're right. That's why i said guess. Also, if that's the case, then you've been throwing P&amp;A's longer than most. :D

That's also why i sent you a PM, introducing myself well before your reply above.

Looking forward to meeting you.

Know anything about adductor longus? Sure wish mine would heal. :confused:


...and yes, maybe "aviar inspired." :D

The Magnet and the APX look a lot alike do they not?

definitely NOT the same mold.



Duh.

Go get 'em this year Schweb!

Aviar.

Most produced in different runs of plastic. CE, Champion Pro , DX , Pro-Line , Second Edition Candy , Taffy , X .....etc.

Most Coppied by other disc manufacturers. ( Even Whamo , Lightning, Gateway, Discraft , DGA , Ching , Latitude 64 , Dynamic Disc, etc.... )

Most used By Pros winning Big Money.

I have atleast 28 different run types of the Aviar Disc.



Ok whamo and Discraft basically copied the Aviar but saying the others did is stupid.



So , your saying the Wizard and the Chief are Not a rounded shouldered Putter with a fraction of a difference in the Cheek of the disc and the rim configuration?

Maybe the Magnet is closer to the Wizard then ?

Round Shouldered Putters.
Look close to the minor changes from the Flight plate , Cheek , Shoulder , Rim depth and Bead , if there is one. Some don't or are worn off.

I kinda know , I have ALL of these and have Thrown all of these at one time or another , including Tournaments.

Most have a Identical Flight path for putting. Just some are more stable in the beginning , than others.

It kinda started with the bluntness of the Puppy and the Super Puppy. Ever throw a Bullet or a Laser ?

These were smaller versions of the 71c* , 42g , 50 , 70 mold and 40F mold golf disc's by Whamo.
Yes , I did win cash as a Pro in 1978 with these Dinosaurs !!!!! :cool:I was 18 at the time !!!! These were the best Disc Golf Discs out at the time !!!!!!

You may also want to ask someone about the Glow version of the 40 mold. ( Brand X ). :eek:

I still dig those old Glow Golf Discs. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

No ALLHyzers here !!!! :eek: :D



The top shoulder is similar but that is where the similarities stop. The flightplate is thinner than an aviar but thickens up the closer it gets to the rim. Also the Wizard has a convexed wing not an angled bevel like the Aviar. Another thing is that the bead is not on the bottom of the disc like an Aviar but it is actually on the wing of the disc.

so if the simple fact that the top or "shoulder" of the disc is rounded means it is a copy then I guess you are right and the numerous innovations in the design of the wizard such as the wing, flightplate, and bead mean nothing.



Bingo Matt. None of the molds he mentioned are exact copies/replicas. They are all different in their own way(s).<font color="red"> Yeah all but the Challenger. </font>:D:D

.....here we go again. :D

Holy Cow Matt. You played a lot of G last year! Some nice finishes too.

The Magnet and the APX look a lot alike do they not?



There are some subtle similarities in the two. Like the new avatar/name Conners. :D

You're right. That's why i said guess. Also, if that's the case, then you've been throwing P&A's longer than most. :D

That's also why i sent you a PM, introducing myself well before your reply above.

Looking forward to meeting you.

Know anything about adductor longus? Sure wish mine would heal. :confused:


...and yes, maybe "aviar inspired." :D



I guess they are copies of the pie plate. :D

That must be the answer to JaLoper's question.

It's the:
http://www.frisbeeshop.org/images/frisbie.gif

Free delivery too:
http://www.bridgeporthistory.org/decades/decade4/images/frisbie_pie_truck_lg.jpg

More info can be learned here: http://bridgeport.ct.schoolwebpages.com/education/components/scrapbook/default.php?sectiondetailid=26565

definitely NOT the same mold.



Duh.

Go get 'em this year Schweb!

Thanks Johnny boy