This is a good list, but you really need an "other" category, just in case...

Since neither of my three top choices were on the other poll (OLF, Rogue, and Banger GT), I had to post a new one.

This is a good list, but you really need an "other" category, just in case...


Let the Aerobie AeroPress choice be the official "other". :D

Cool, I deleted the other inferior poll.

could you edit O LF to read Orion LF? also -- why no love for the Orion LS?

could you edit O LF to read Orion LF? also -- why no love for the Orion LS?



I tried to edit, but could not. I have all sorts of love for the Orion LS, however it was released in 2005.

I miss a lot of discs in the poll, no Lat64 discs, the Mirus is a great driver.
There were almost 50 new discs being approved this year.....

Great list, I don't think you need to represent any other discs on the list, well done. May I also add, GO DISCRAFT! Interesting that most votes are for drivers, when I truly believe that your putter is the most important disc in your bag. And once again, GO DISCRAFT! :D

Great list, I don't think you need to represent any other discs on the list, well done. May I also add, GO DISCRAFT! Interesting that most votes are for drivers, when I truly believe that your putter is the most important disc in your bag. And once again, GO DISCRAFT! :D

I miss a lot of discs in the poll, no Lat64 discs, the Mirus is a great driver.
There were almost 50 new discs being approved this year.....



Good point. I left out the Lat64, many Gateway-Quest discs, and that New Zealand company with the name I can't remember or pronounce...None of these had enough buzz on this board to make a run at DOTY.

Interesting that most votes are for drivers, when I truly believe that your putter is the most important disc in your bag. And once again, GO DISCRAFT! :D



Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

so it seems people love the surge. i tried it once and found it not dramatically diffirent than the beast/orc/SL. it has the same rim width as these discs and flys like the SL to me. can someone tell me how it is diffirent/better than these? i was able to get more out of the rogue. isn't it a tweaked surge? thanks

Apparently the Discraftophiles united! The Surge is a sweet disc. I wonder what DC disc the Surge most replaced for DC'ers? Crush? Avenger?

The Surge is definitely sweet, holds any line with just a bit of predictable fade. I voted for it because it has replaced a Z Crush that I have used religiously for over 3 years. I mean it, I used this crush and a putter for every round and tournament for a 3 year stint! As it wore in became my everything disc. I used it for super reliable long drives because I love the wider rim style. It would hold a long anhyzer for me and fade back about 10 feet. I sidearmed extremely consistently with it without flipping it over, so it became by bread and butter upshot from 100-200'. I also tomahawk extensively with it and it shows hardly any signs of wear after well over 1000 throws. Needless to say I love that crush - AND THE SURGE IS REPLACING IT! That's why it got my vote.

I also like the Champion Starfire-L (SL), but I prefer the Z plastic with a clearer center for night discin.

Doc-

It did replace the Crush in my bag. This disc is a bad mother bomber, that is for sure.

so it seems people love the surge. i tried it once and found it not dramatically diffirent than the beast/orc/SL. it has the same rim width as these discs and flys like the SL to me. can someone tell me how it is diffirent/better than these? i was able to get more out of the rogue. isn't it a tweaked surge? thanks



The Surge is faster than the Orc or the SL, and it also glides as well as the Star/Champion SL. It has a really neutral stability as well. All of these things make for one of the most versatile distance drivers on the market. That said, I don't really think the Surge is the best driver for any given situation, it just is versatile enough to do a decent job at a bunch of shots. For example, the Rogue is definetely faster, longer, and glides better. It is hands down a better pure D driver. There are also better stable/overstable distance drivers out there for long left turns. There are less touchy drivers out there as well. However, none of these discs could do everything as well as the Surge.

So, the winner is the TeeRex.

I have 5 Star's in the Trader Row and not one response. Weird.

You would think, since they are so popular I would be flooded.

BTW, I have tried throwing entire rounds with the TeeRex. Even in the summer with thin air, I would say that throwing that nose down all the time just wears on your body, it certainly makes throwing mids and putters more difficult.

In the summer the Teerex was very long. Maybe I just throw better now, as I can throw SOLFs, SF, and Valks just as far now. I do feel I am really snapping well.

I liked the first run, overstable Teerexes. They were predictable, and when they came out they were capable of flights that no other discs were. Now that the Max is out, it is a better overstable distance disc for me.

For some reason I have seen a lot of good players shank TeeRexes in tournaments. It seems this disc is pretty touchy when trying to fly flat. I've seen people turn them over like crazy. They are not very forgiving in that it takes a certain amount of snap to get them nose down and flying straight, but a little more armspeed or wind and they turn and burn. They just flip so darn fast once they get going. The last time I saw a good player really mess up a drive with a TR during a tourney I told him that in my experience the TeeRex is about as dependable as a alcoholic stepfather. When it comes to the wide-rimmed, super fast drivers, I prefer no doubt overstability (the Max), or a disc with so much glide that it flips slower (Rogue, Surge, Pro Wraith). All that being said, I think that the TeeRex is dependable for those who do not possess the power to over torque it. For the rest of us there is the Max.

Tee-Rex sun

I threw another non CFR Max this weekend and all I have to say is LAWN DART. This disc was more overstable then my brand new spirits and if you are going to use it for long drives into the wind I would say that unless it is for headwind hyzers you have form problems. Heck if you like Innova just get a Star Teebird. A Teebird is less likely to flip over into a headwind then a Teerex due to the fact that it has a bead(stabilize) and a Teerex doesn't. Most people don't know this however but Avery sure does. :Dhe was making fun of Matt-o and Sprague this summer because they were flipping there Teerexes and he was throwing pure shots with his Teebird.

Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

Probably true for the most part. I certainly would have agreed about the gimmickry part in regards to the Banger-GT until I actually tried it. I started carrying an ESP (approaches) and D (putts) version a couple of weeks ago and I have been hitting some big putts and dinging a lot more metal from farther out than usual. I guess it is possible that I'm focusing more since I'm throwing something new, but if I keep getting these results, they are staying in the bag!

nanook

Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

Probably true for the most part. I certainly would have agreed about the gimmickry part in regards to the Banger-GT until I actually tried it. I started carrying an ESP (approaches) and D (putts) version a couple of weeks ago and I have been hitting some big putts and dinging a lot more metal from farther out than usual. I guess it is possible that I'm focusing more since I'm throwing something new, but if I keep getting these results, they are staying in the bag!

nanook



I would have to say that not all putters are clones with only small changes. We now have putters with convexed rather than concaved wings and that makes a Huge difference in the aerodynamics of the disc. The general shape may be similar but it is the little things that make all the difference.

For me it has to be the Surge and I am not a Discraft guy I actually usually throw Innova. But even when my shoulder is hurting on an open hole this disc goes forever. I have not thrown a TeeRex because of the fact I can't throw a Wraith and the TeeRex is a retooled version. A close second for me would be the Raging Inferno which flys a lot straighter for me than the regular Inferno, the Inferno is OK but if I don't put the right amount of Hyzer on it I am afraid it will come back around and hit me it flips so hard. And even though not listed (may be a late 2005 disc) I really like the Buzz GT, I know it has the name of a disc that has been around for years, but it is more different in design from the Buzz than any other disc on the list, I really love the way it feels in my hand and I also like the fact that it seems slightly more overstable to me than the regular Buzz.

Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

Probably true for the most part. I certainly would have agreed about the gimmickry part in regards to the Banger-GT until I actually tried it. I started carrying an ESP (approaches) and D (putts) version a couple of weeks ago and I have been hitting some big putts and dinging a lot more metal from farther out than usual. I guess it is possible that I'm focusing more since I'm throwing something new, but if I keep getting these results, they are staying in the bag!

nanook


Good points! I gotta add that a Rhyno will always be in my quiver...pure, & dependable gimmickry! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

olf w/ the whitler in second.

The pro is right. Tee-rex n-effex

I threw another non CFR Max this weekend and all I have to say is LAWN DART. This disc was more overstable then my brand new spirits and if you are going to use it for long drives into the wind I would say that unless it is for headwind hyzers you have form problems. Heck if you like Innova just get a Star Teebird. A Teebird is less likely to flip over into a headwind then a Teerex due to the fact that it has a bead(stabilize) and a Teerex doesn't. Most people don't know this however but Avery sure does. :Dhe was making fun of Matt-o and Sprague this summer because they were flipping there Teerexes and he was throwing pure shots with his Teebird.



Funny thing about those Maxes is that Innova did not put weights on them, at least not on any of Sunking's I was looking through. I'm pretty keen on disc weight, rarely more than a gram off on my estimations after gripping the disc and fake snapping it a couple of times. The disc I picked out was a blue one, and it was definetely the lightest of the bunch. When I got home I threw it on my scale and it weighed a perfect 175g. This means that more than likely every other color was overweight (maybe why no weights were printed on them :confused:). I can throw it completely flat and get 400' with the disc flat for most the flight before hyzering out. To me, this is not incredibly overstable. I suspect that you may have thrown one that was overweight because mine has a stability very similar to a Spirit.

You are totally correct regarding the Star Teebird. It is my #1 driver, versatile enough to substitute for a midrange in the wind and still be my best driver in a 20mph headwind. I still like having a super fast, wide rimmed driver for skip shots after a long flight, or big spike type hyzer shots, or max D in the wind. The Teebird holds an awesome line in the wind, but is only good for up to 400' for me. In a more wide open headwind situation I think I'll be able to get more D with my Max. We'll see, and if not the Teebird will still be there ;).

Hi everyone,

If anyone who is unfamiliar with the Surge (http://www.discraft.com/prod_surge_e.html), Pulse (http://www.discraft.com/prod_pulse_e.html) or Banger-GT (http://www.discraft.com/prod_bangergt_d.html) wants more info you can click on the names for descriptions.

P.S. I would agree with Robert, the Buzzz-GT (http://www.discraft.com/prod_buzzzgt_x.html) is amazing!

Of the discs listed, I only got to throw the Inferno, Scream, Skeeter, Max, T-Rex, and Whitler. Here are my thoughts on each. <ul type="square"> Inferno - This was my vote in the poll. I bought some blue 167g Infernos and it has become my go-to driver over the last few months. I really like the wide rim and the feel of this disc in my hand. Thrown with a slight touch of hyzer, the Inferno will hyzer-flip and glide a long way. I'm getting some of my longest throws ever with this disc.

I have to be careful not to yank it because if it flips over, it's not coming back. And I wouldn't trust this disc at all into a headwind. But thrown flat with a tailwind, this disc will glide seemingly forever.

Scream - I picked up a dimpled Scream DT. I get my money's worth out of this disc from the shock value alone when I show it to my friends - it looks so cool! I also really like the spooky Scream imprint on the underside of the disc. It's most suited for hyzer flips and rollers - it's a touchy disc that I can easily overpower if thrown flat or into a headwind. I was surprised at how understable this disc is, mostly because every other Gateway disc I've ever thrown has been stable to overstable. I will probably use this disc more as a roller than for airshots. While the dimples make a neat "whoosh" sound when the disc is thrown, I am not convinced that they translate into any extra distance. But again, I have already gotten my money's worth from this disc due to the baffled faces and "wtf?" responses it's received from my friends.

Skeeter - I have a First Run DX Skeeter, 175g. Thrown with a touch of hyzer, this disc is incredibly neutral, and reminds me greatly of a Classic Roc, but with more glide. This disc may replace the straight shots I normally make with a Classic Roc, especially if it's a longer shot that I don't think I can reach with a Classic Roc.

Max - This disc is silly overstable. Great for when you need a disc to fly about 200 feet and then make a 90 degree turn. Which is hardly ever.

Tee-rex - This disc was as overstable as described. It's predictable, and great into a headwind, but I just get no distance with the thing. Power throwers may love it, but it's too much disc for my weenie arm.

Whitler - This disc has the look and feel of a Frisbee more than a disc golf disc. It's very thin and has a big dome like a lid does. It's very floppy and you can easily bend the thing in half. However, the plastic with which it is constructed seems much tougher and much more durable than regular plastic. It's also grippier. As advertised, the intent of this disc seems to be to make an old school lid in today's high-tech plastic for superb durability. I believe that this disc will definitely improve a golfer's short game. It will allow for an increased liklihood of holing out long putts. As described, it will nicely fill a niche role in your disc golf bag between the putter and the mid-range. You'll be able to make reasonable runs at the basket without blowing past the polehole and leaving yourself long comebackers should you miss the cage. With its floppiness, this disc will be excellent for short hammers, scoobers, thumbers, etc. where the idea is to throw the disc up and over an obstacle and have it land and stay close to the polehole. When this thing lands, it just flops immediately to a standstill. Old school Frisbee throwers will be immediately "at home" with this disc. People that were never Frisbee throwers and who were weaned on disc golf discs will have to learn how to throw the Snapdisc Whitler properly. Too much arm speed would easily overpower it.[/list]

I liked the first run, overstable Teerexes. They were predictable, and when they came out they were capable of flights that no other discs were. Now that the Max is out, it is a better overstable distance disc for me.

For some reason I have seen a lot of good players shank TeeRexes in tournaments. It seems this disc is pretty touchy when trying to fly flat. I've seen people turn them over like crazy. They are not very forgiving in that it takes a certain amount of snap to get them nose down and flying straight, but a little more armspeed or wind and they turn and burn. They just flip so darn fast once they get going. The last time I saw a good player really mess up a drive with a TR during a tourney I told him that in my experience the TeeRex is about as dependable as a alcoholic stepfather. When it comes to the wide-rimmed, super fast drivers, I prefer no doubt overstability (the Max), or a disc with so much glide that it flips slower (Rogue, Surge, Pro Wraith). All that being said, I think that the TeeRex is dependable for those who do not possess the power to over torque it. For the rest of us there is the Max.



I couldn't have said it better, but I was going to... instead I just figured I would repost what you wrote instead. As my Max begins to "soften up" (can't really say it's beating in at all) it's becoming the furthest headwind disc i've ever thrown. I have had Rexes be wonderful for me for all hyzer bomb needs but even a gentle headwind can flip the poor things OB.

Pro Wraith! Thats why everyone is picking the surge, cause the Wraith isnt in there :D
Coyote???
Guess ill go with the trex too....

Max's are all Max weight, so they probly range from 173-180

Pro Wraith! Thats why everyone is picking the surge, cause the Wraith isnt in there :D
Coyote???
Guess ill go with the trex too....

Max's are all Max weight, so they probly range from 173-180



Wraith came out in 2005.

Pro Wraith! Thats why everyone is picking the surge, cause the Wraith isnt in there :D
Coyote???
Guess ill go with the trex too....

Max's are all Max weight, so they probly range from 173-180



Wraith came out in 2005.



oh yeah, thats right it was my fav. 05 model

Pro Wraith! Thats why everyone is picking the surge, cause the Wraith isnt in there :D
Coyote???
Guess ill go with the trex too....

Max's are all Max weight, so they probly range from 173-180



Wraith came out in 2005.



oh yeah, thats right it was my fav. 05 model



Hence the screen name? :D

Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

Probably true for the most part. I certainly would have agreed about the gimmickry part in regards to the Banger-GT until I actually tried it. I started carrying an ESP (approaches) and D (putts) version a couple of weeks ago and I have been hitting some big putts and dinging a lot more metal from farther out than usual. I guess it is possible that I'm focusing more since I'm throwing something new, but if I keep getting these results, they are staying in the bag!

nanook



I would have to say that not all putters are clones with only small changes. We now have putters with convexed rather than concaved wings and that makes a Huge difference in the aerodynamics of the disc. The general shape may be similar but it is the little things that make all the difference.



okay: World Championships -> Dominant winner = Aviar!
(do we really need to tally them?) :eek:

Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

Probably true for the most part. I certainly would have agreed about the gimmickry part in regards to the Banger-GT until I actually tried it. I started carrying an ESP (approaches) and D (putts) version a couple of weeks ago and I have been hitting some big putts and dinging a lot more metal from farther out than usual. I guess it is possible that I'm focusing more since I'm throwing something new, but if I keep getting these results, they are staying in the bag!

nanook



I would have to say that not all putters are clones with only small changes. We now have putters with convexed rather than concaved wings and that makes a Huge difference in the aerodynamics of the disc. The general shape may be similar but it is the little things that make all the difference.



okay: World Championships -> Dominant winner = Aviar!
(do we really need to tally them?) :eek:




Ok so hwo many of them were sponsored by Innova? BTW the Wizard has won at least two Putting world championships.

Since the release of the Aviar in 1984, putters haven't really improved. just a lot of cloning, plastic variation, tweaking (big beads, small beads, no bead) and gimmickry.

Probably true for the most part. I certainly would have agreed about the gimmickry part in regards to the Banger-GT until I actually tried it. I started carrying an ESP (approaches) and D (putts) version a couple of weeks ago and I have been hitting some big putts and dinging a lot more metal from farther out than usual. I guess it is possible that I'm focusing more since I'm throwing something new, but if I keep getting these results, they are staying in the bag!

nanook



I would have to say that not all putters are clones with only small changes. We now have putters with convexed rather than concaved wings and that makes a Huge difference in the aerodynamics of the disc. The general shape may be similar but it is the little things that make all the difference.



okay: World Championships -> Dominant winner = Aviar!
(do we really need to tally them?) :eek:




Ok so hwo many of them were sponsored by Innova? BTW the Wizard has won at least two Putting world championships.

Yea but this year it was a KC Pro Aviar.