gdstour
Dec 11 2006, 01:51 PM
How important is it to disc golfers that the products they use are made here in the U.S.A.

MARKB
Dec 11 2006, 01:53 PM
Personally I dont really look at where the product I buy is made. I want quality, reliability and utility depending on the product. Whatever company offers the best that money can buy I think of it as a good investment :)

MADCITYDISC
Dec 11 2006, 01:58 PM
Are you thinking of outsourcing your manufacturing Dave?

MARKB
Dec 11 2006, 02:10 PM
I think he is trying to see the value put on his product being made in St Louis as supposed to being made overseas.

gdstour
Dec 11 2006, 02:26 PM
I just like polls:
;) :D

Dec 11 2006, 02:48 PM
Keep hard earned american dollars , in America.

ryangwillim
Dec 11 2006, 03:07 PM
Keep hard earned american dollars , in America.

Lesson to learn here, most other countries don't take U.S. American currency. :p

wheresdave
Dec 11 2006, 03:50 PM
I would rather keep Americans working then line my pockets with a little bit of change :D

gdstour
Dec 12 2006, 03:01 AM
You are saying that other countries make you exchange the american dollar for their money at the bank, so you can use it while you are in their country?

Kind of like you cant go the movie theater here in the USA and hand them a euro, peso or yen? :confused:

wheresdave
Dec 12 2006, 08:41 AM
I just hope that Disc manufactors dont try to become the Wal Mart of Disc Golf :D

alexkeil
Dec 12 2006, 09:14 AM
Here Here! I'd rather support someone with a living wage by shelling out 8 bucks for Dx than to support sweatshop labor overseas and get 4 dollar plastic. I support companies that value the lives of their employees and don't think of them as just another expense. I'd support foreign made discs as long as the factory was run under US or French labor laws.

wheresdave
Dec 12 2006, 09:24 AM
Can I get a Amen Brothers and Sisters :) ;) :D

ryangwillim
Dec 12 2006, 12:02 PM
You are saying that other countries make you exchange the american dollar for their money at the bank, so you can use it while you are in their country?

Kind of like you cant go the movie theater here in the USA and hand them a euro, peso or yen? :confused:


Mostly just making a joke about the American "Us vs. Them" mentality.

my_hero
Dec 12 2006, 12:22 PM
Buy American except when it comes to cars,.......and oriental food.

veganray
Dec 12 2006, 12:24 PM
And wives!

gdstour
Dec 22 2006, 01:57 PM
I expected a lot more resposes from this poll.
I'm guessing I should have had a few more options.

Anyway Thanks for the input, we ( Gateway) try pretty hard to keep from out sourcing manufacturing at this point.
We can stay competitive on the discs, but cost of manufacturing the bags and baskets puts us way behind in price, thats why we try to stay ahead in quality!

Thanks for taking part in the poll!!!


Happy holidays!

paerley
Dec 25 2006, 11:41 PM
Rant Ahead, be warned....




I work for a small company that manufactures parts for performance cars (not honda civics with coffee cans on their exhaust, cars running 1000+ horsepower, or situations where a few tenths of a pound can make the difference between first and last). In our industry we find that 'outsourced' parts don't suffer mold issues or issues as far as the procedure in manufacturing goes. To cut costs, often times, it's been found that sub-par materials are pawned off as the real deal. We are fortunate in this situation in that people who are driving vehicles that are going from 0-250mph inside of a quarter mile are more concerned about their health than a few bucks on a part. I fear that if this same approach were brought to disc golf, we'd see even more inconsistency between runs. I'm not saying that all outsourced manufacturing would suffer from this, just that when a company is looking to outsource might be more concerned in how much they can save than the quality of the particular manufacturer. If any disc golf manufacturers were to start outsourcing, I would move away from them until much MUCH anecdotal evidence supported that the company was producing discs as (in)consistently as their stateside counterparts.

Of course, my experience is in metals, not plastics. The margin on plastic may not be as different as it is in metals, so I can't say that this would be a problem, but hunting for flat max weight z wasps has shown me what happens when a disc has a wide range in it's production, and I don't want any more go-to discs to fall into that category.

gdstour
Dec 26 2006, 04:44 AM
Thanks for the input Pat,
We (Gateway) are not looking to out source disc manufacturing as I know how hard it is to keep the discs flying consistent from run to run.
The ching discs seem to be very consistent, most of it due to a lot larger runs being imported. Its just new model production and changes in prototyping from China that will always be lagging and possibly keeping overseas models 6 months to a year behind.
There have been a lot of advancements in technology over the last 9 months and players can expect even more from here on out. Dimple technology will be something that will allow newer layers without as much velocity and rotation to keep up with control and distance.

If players have a new friend just getting into disc golf a Scream DT or Inferno Dt should really help them with longer straight drives right off the bat and also help them develop proper technique, instead of just throwing hand me down drivers.
The odyssey discs are really good for the younger kids especially the newer runs that are really soft which are geared for schools.