caught ya! actually this thread is about how far you drive to events and what you would consider a reasonable "no-fly" zone for protection of supertour and national tour events. As far as i'm concerned, in my area of the country a 300 mile zone would substantially protect events from grabbing participants and volunteers from a competing A tier event. Probably an NT event should have a bit more, maybe 500 miles. I believe the current "no-fly" zone policies to be arbitrary and restrictive to the growth of disc golf. I was thinking about it the other day with Steve Dodge and i offered that 90% of the players in my area have never driven more than 2 hours for an event. then there is the hardcore 9% that would drive 6-8 hours for a good event in say warwick or MSDGC.
the last 1% would represent out couple touring pros and the occaisional vacation that coincides with an event somewhere.

Am I that far off? Are things different in other parts of the country? Do regular A tiers normally draw more than 1 or 2 people from outside 300 miles?

I think these rules are restricting the growth of events by impeding different regions that happen to be withing 500 miles of developing their own schedules. They also end up with the PDGA forcing events to constantly shuffle dates (another whole thread I could make and rant on), all for the benefit of the 20 people who actually follow the national tour. and i doubt it really affects them anyway.

anyway, i honestly would like to know other members feelings on this, especially event coordinators and state reps.

Thanks for you time!

I've got two (http://www.sndg.org/) words for you.

Back when I knew lots of Michigan players I looked at how far they were going for tournaments. 90 miles accounted for most of them at most tournaments.

The zones of exclusion are way too large and enforced too haphazardly. For my last tournament I was too close to some other tournament so the PDGA would not sanction it. I drew 111 players and they had 73. We were both full to foursomes.

But when it is my zone of exclusion the PDGA almost never enforces it. At one of those in 2006 we were full at over 200 players and they had 50-some. Too bad for them. Anyone else want a piece of that?

The bottom line is that good tournaments don't need zones of exclusion. Crappy tournaments don't deserve zones of exclusion merely for getting on the schedule first.

I'm from New Jersey, and this year for golf I've been as far south as South Carolina (600+), as far north as Maine (~450), and as far west as Pittsburgh (~350). I don't think I would travel over 600 except for events like Worlds or USDGC.

I don't think the limits are too bad though. 500 miles between A-tiers? That's only 250 either way, which can easily be driven on a Friday night after work. There are the occasional times when I think it would be nice to have more tournaments close by on a given weekend, but more often than not I find myself having to choose between events anyway. As Bruce pointed out, the best events will get the players.

I used to drive 5-9 hours a day to a Disc Golf tournament.

Tough doing it by yourself though.

I prefer to Fly and get a rental car.

500 isn't the limit.bigs. last year it was 1000 miles for a tiers and 1500 for supertours.

and i think you are in the serious minority. there are only a handful of events that draw many people from over 5 hours away, and those will draw regardless i think.

On a regular basis, I drive anywhere from 1-3 hours. Probably around 250 miles. But I also fall into the

the last 1% would represent...the occaisional vacation that coincides with an event somewhere.


and in those cases have driven 6 hours (Warwick/Hambrick).





The bottom line is that good tournaments don't need zones of exclusion. Crappy tournaments don't deserve zones of exclusion merely for getting on the schedule first.

This is a great topic of discussion and, pretending to be a busy beaver elsewhere, I would like to request a little bit of digging by someone willing to volunteer some time to me.

http://www.pdga.com/schedule/search.php

Search all of the A-tiers this year. Determine the location of the event and, for each participant, how far from home they were when they attended. Please use a consistent measuring device for determining distances.

Once we have this data, we can determine how far people are travelling for these events in the different regions of the US, and how close tourneys can be without stepping on toes. Then someone can present this data to the Tour Manager and request a change. Before that, it is all conjecture.

Maybe our perspective down here in Texas is a little skewed from "normal" but when we have an A-tier down here, it's pretty common for a lot of players to drive over 100 miles to a tourney. Dallas is 200 miles but we draw players from Tulsa which is another 100+ miles further than Dallas.

Austin is over 100 miles from here and so is San Antonio and Corpus Christi. We like hitting all of the A-tiers that we can in a season, so I think the No Fly zone surrounding an A-tier is appropriate. All TDs love to see players from out-of-town coming to their events, so I'm thinking the No Fly zone stuff works pretty well for down here.

(But then again, in Houston you can easily have a 1 hour commute to and from work!)

Z Boaz - Fort Worth, TX travel distances - Pro Open division
1132
19
348
911
441
186
698
236
250
698
304
201
185
0
19
661
186
54
186
186
332
15
48
374
698
15
201
635
0
7
550
533
201

Steve,

The other issue is how many tourneys does the average PDGA member actually play in a year? I would bet it's under 5. Randomly pull up members and see how many they have played. With that in mind I don't think you need to protect tourneys from low turnout. The more tourneys you have somewhere the more participation you might get. Also the guys are right that supply and demand will dictate the existence of tourneys. The Patapsco Picnic died for several reasons but one of the prime ones was no one was coming anymore. Why does it make sense to have 1,000 divisions and 10 tourneys, and not the other way around?

This is a great topic of discussion and, pretending to be a busy beaver elsewhere, I would like to request a little bit of digging by someone willing to volunteer some time to me.

http://www.pdga.com/schedule/search.php

Search all of the A-tiers this year. Determine the location of the event and, for each participant, how far from home they were when they attended. Please use a consistent measuring device for determining distances.

Once we have this data, we can determine how far people are travelling for these events in the different regions of the US, and how close tourneys can be without stepping on toes. Then someone can present this data to the Tour Manager and request a change. Before that, it is all conjecture.




Good idea.

500 for a B to be near an A seems excessive with the number of travelers, even in the mid-west. With the mileage charted, that could give validity to having a lower number based on the distances traveled from year to year in a given region.

I would say at least 500 + 1/2 of that distance again. This is just so that if you are 300 miles away, you are closer to the A-Tier.

This is a great topic of discussion and, pretending to be a busy beaver elsewhere, I would like to request a little bit of digging by someone willing to volunteer some time to me.

http://www.pdga.com/schedule/search.php

Search all of the A-tiers this year. Determine the location of the event and, for each participant, how far from home they were when they attended. Please use a consistent measuring device for determining distances.

Once we have this data, we can determine how far people are travelling for these events in the different regions of the US, and how close tourneys can be without stepping on toes. Then someone can present this data to the Tour Manager and request a change. Before that, it is all conjecture.


Let me boil that down into five simple words any L. Frank Baum fan can understand:

Bring me the witch's broom!

500 isn't the limit.bigs. last year it was 1000 miles for a tiers and 1500 for supertours.



Sorry, I think it's 500 between an A and a B. I didn't really feel like looking it up. Either way...


and i think you are in the serious minority. there are only a handful of events that draw many people from over 5 hours away, and those will draw regardless i think.



I know people don't travel as much as I do, but you asked how far people drive. I can't speak for most people, but only for myself.

I've got two (http://www.sndg.org/) words for you.



Actually, if you read the SN forums carefully you will find they are in conflict with their own "exclusion zones".

Personally, I will drive up to 8 hours for a standard two-day tournament. I try to limit this to bigger events, such as A-tiers and NT's. However I will not be concerned if I was traveling that far to a town with a great course or a great tournament, even if it was a B or C tier.

But like Dr. Evil mentions. People like me are in the minority. The majority of players in mine/Hawks/Dr.Evil's area rarely leave a 2 hour radius, and that is only to go to Hawk Hollow, the Grange, or Paw Paw.

Z Boaz - Fort Worth, TX travel distances - Pro Open division
1132
19
348
911
441
186
698
236
250
698
304
201
185
0
19
661
186
54
186
186
332
15
48
374
698
15
201
635
0
7
550
533
201




Well I guess I live 236 miles from Z-boaz :D

ALright. Here's a fun one. These are all the distances I have traveled to all sanctioned tourneys attended in 2006:
60
60
94
3
475
60
35
216
3
202
190
55
216
23
(35, 35, 35) 3 day tourney
226
55

2078 total
122.2 average
4156 real total (to and from)

THese are just driving distances to each tournament. During 2 day and 3 day tourneys, we will go to/from course to hotel, go get breakfast/dinner/lunch. This probably tacked on another 500 all year.

As an FYI, the average number of rated rounds (not events) per PDGA member each year hovers around 14.

Thanks Chuck. Looks like my guess of five is close. 14 rounds=seven one day tourneys, and you figure there are probably some two dayers in there.

Chuck,

I am not doubting your number, but are you sure that is per valid PDGA member, or is that per PDGA member that is actually playing tournaments?

Two things first more than half of the players that play tournaments have less than 9 rounds, which suggest 2 two day events or a mix of one and two day events. The second thing is if we include non-playing members that number drops considerably. However, we are only interested in competing players for this discussion. Approximately 1/4 of our competing members play 4 rounds or less. This suggests that quite a few players only participate in a local event or two local one day events. The next break is at 8 rated rounds for about 50% or our competing players and then 75% for 14 rounds or less. So the average says one thing, but looking at the number of players says something else.

Remember, statistics and tortured prisoners can both be made to lie if you work them over enough ;)


As an FYI, the average number of rated rounds (not events) per PDGA member each year hovers around 14.

I drove by myself all the way from Northville MI to Tulsa OK for the 2006 Am Worlds...........then a few months later I drove by myself to NC for the Charlotte Open and then from there to SC for the USDGC!!!

Here are my distances for the year.

For PDGA sanctioned events:
177
173
209
204
48
201
77
92
230
22
348
233
88
18 x 2 days
266
22 x 2 days
150
88
77

Non-PDGA events:
403
230
101

Spectating:
636 (USDGC)

That 14-round average is for those members who had at least one rated round during the year so it's not all members.

I live in San Diego and haven't played any PDGA sanctioned events in my own town. I have traveled out of town to go to events I enjoy and are run well. A well run C tier is better then a poorly run B tier in my opinion. I also fly to at least one event a year and also play monthy non-sanctioned tournaments in San Diego (30 minute drive) and LA (1.5 hr drive)on a regular basis.

So far my drives have consited of.

2 hrs to LA (approx 120 miles) B-tier
1hr to Oceanside (approx 45 miles) B-tier
Fly to Oregon course 1 hr from airport (lots of miles) A-tier
3 hrs to Wrightwood (approx 150 miles) B-tier
2 hrs to Riverside (approx 120 miles) B-tier
5 hrs to Las Vegas (approx 350 miles) B-tier

I have driven 8 hrs (500+ for a B-tier) in the past to attend good events. I think the players will attend the events they want to attend. For example I went to Oregon, instead of playing the event in my own town.

Out west (and probably in the midwest as well) longer distances are not that unusual. 200-300 miles can be typical for B-tiers.

I played seven B Tiers this past year and never drove more than 100 miles.

Out west (and probably in the midwest as well) longer distances are not that unusual. 200-300 miles can be typical for B-tiers.

I would guess that's probably true. Out here in Colorado, it seems most regulars don't see it as too much of a hassle to drive from the front range up to the high country, or over to the western slope, or up to Wyoming, and vice versa. Also, according to our club message boards, there always seems to be a decent carpool effort to get to tourneys in Montana, Nebraska, Kansas, and other surrounding states.
the last 1% would represent out couple touring pros and the occaisional vacation that coincides with an event somewhere.

I played the Cranberry Valley tourney in Maine this summer. I was already there for my sister's wedding. Nice tourney, nice people! Disc golf tourism on-the-side is one of my favorite aspects of our sport!

nanook

There's no question that fixed mileage standards make little sense based on varying geography and member distribution. However, until such time as we can analyze the information and define regional differences, the fixed standards are as far as we (Competition Committee) can go. I personally would like to see the mileage standards lowered even if it's just regionally and will work to do more analysis to support those changes.

I am driving 10 hours tomorrow

I'll drive up to 6 hours for a good tournament.

All I have left to say about this is, I've had it with unreasonable zones of exclusion that are enforced when I want to sanction something but never enforced when someone else wants to run something 50-100 miles away from my tournament. I used to sanction some tournaments just to support the PDGA. From now on, if i don't have to sanction it, I'm not going to. I'll let some other TD send $500 to the PDGA and I'll spend my $500 on the players.

Working on the Pros for all A-Tier Pro events (includes A/B Tier events) for 2006.....

The sad truth.

Before wife and kids: 6 hours / 360 miles
After wife and kids: 90 minutes / 90 miles.

I do try to make one of these each year, but that's a vacation.....plane tickets/rental car/hotel stay: USDGC-Worlds-Players Cup

The sad truth.

Before wife and kids: 6 hours / 360 miles
After wife and kids: 90 minutes / 90 miles.





Flag on the field: John only has one kid. The plural version will come into effect during 2007.

My distances this year:

54
54
414
25
25
44
44
81
50
32
32
205
50
40

Total = 1150 miles
Avg = 82.14 miles

I had the benefit of coming from Chicago to all the IOS tournaments in the area this year. Never had to drive more than 2 hours to get to them, and there were individual tournaments on back-to-back days. But, I'm driving if theres a big event worth playing within 500 miles. If there were 2 A-tiers within driving distance the same weekend, I would pretty much definitely play the closer one regardless. The one further away would have to have some huge appeal to draw me away.

All I have left to say about this is, I've had it with unreasonable zones of exclusion that are enforced when I want to sanction something but never enforced when someone else wants to run something 50-100 miles away from my tournament. I used to sanction some tournaments just to support the PDGA. From now on, if i don't have to sanction it, I'm not going to. I'll let some other TD send $500 to the PDGA and I'll spend my $500 on the players.



I really don't get this argument when it comes to PDGA fees. My impression is that the fees are above and beyond the entry cost, and all the TD is doing is collecting and transferring the money. In other words, the entry is $55 which includes the $5 in local and PDGA fees, and all knowledgeable players understand that $50 of the entry is what goes to payout, expenses and the like.

Why are the fees treated as being money out of the TDs pocket or tournament payout as opposed to being just something added to the base entry fee that serves the common good? IMO, if treated correctly, it never was part of the tournament nor truly something for the TD to possess or control. And the vast majority of the people who really bear this burden (i.e. the players, not the TD) don't have a problem with it.

It never was 'your' $500.

from Austin,TX to NW Colorado,center of Oklahoma

Now wait a second. GS is part of the family and is very much just like a child. :D

I guess that is why I like the STL.
You have
Bowling Green 5 hrs
KC 4 hrs
DesMoines 5-6 hrs
Tulsa 6 hrs
Emporia 5 hrs
STL 0 hrs

There is 6 Am and 5 Pro A tiers right there w/B pro in STL.

Do not drive more than 2-3 for B tiers. Better time spent at home.

my travel this year, round trip:
1396
2916(Flew)
272
608
0
272
396
402
30
116
272
272
762
370
0
272
202
272
0
2414 charlotte open than to Rock Hill, than home
272
608

Average round trip per tourney: 551 miles.... WOW!
Average winning per tourney $138.39

Glad I have a road dawg partner to split costs!

you can't even compete with the number of a tiers within 3 hours from dc! deal with it!!!

Yea, but it is the best we got. Kind of wish I lived on the east coast in the carolinas.

Memorial 565mi
B-Tier 230
B-Tier 137
C-Tier 75 1-Day
B-Tier 231
A-Tier 350
B-Tier 2
Worlds 1850 (flew)
A-Tier 355
B-Tier 142 (71mi but drove up both days)

I live in Western Colorado. There is a good tour of events in Colorado but all are at least 1 hour away and most 2-6 hours away (except the one I throw here in Montrose).

As mentioned by others, in the West, driving distances are generally bigger. I love going to the Memorial each year. I've played most tournaments in Colorado at this point and know the ones I really want to go to each year. It is nicer to have them within distance to be able to drive a few hours and get in a quick round Friday night before tourney starts.

Also, I do travel more than most players in my area but I do have 1-2 guys who go to most of the tourneys with me.

my $0.02

MADMAX

I drove a lot this year:

from KS to Poison Ivy Open, TX - 420 miles
from KS to ZBoaz TX - 444 miles
from KS to Wyco, KC - 100 miles
from KS to Mighty MO - 100 miles
from KS to Graceland IA - 224 miles
from KS to SCSO NE - 225 miles
from KS to Cap City, Topeka - 50 miles
from KS to Doo Dah, Wichita - 60 miles
from KS to KCWO KC - 100 miles
from KS to LSO - Topeka - 50 miles
from KS to MJCO - Carrollton TX - 429 miles
from KS to USDGC SC - 1082 miles
from KS to OO - Tulsa OK - 257 miles
from KS to VPO - TX - 451 miles
from KS to Players Cup - FL - 1297 miles
for a total of:
10,578 round trip driving miles, 90% by myself!

I drove a lot this year:

from KS to Poison Ivy Open, TX - 420 miles
from KS to ZBoaz TX - 444 miles
from KS to Wyco, KC - 100 miles
from KS to Mighty MO - 100 miles
from KS to Graceland IA - 224 miles
from KS to SCSO NE - 225 miles
from KS to Cap City, Topeka - 50 miles
from KS to Doo Dah, Wichita - 60 miles
from KS to KCWO KC - 100 miles
from KS to LSO - Topeka - 50 miles
from KS to MJCO - Carrollton TX - 429 miles
from KS to USDGC SC - 1082 miles
from KS to OO - Tulsa OK - 257 miles
from KS to VPO - TX - 451 miles
from KS to Players Cup - FL - 1297 miles
for a total of:
10,578 round trip driving miles, 90% by myself!



You should just stay down here in DFW and cut that milage by 20%.

....and don't tell me your moving down here again. Glad i didn't hold my breath the 10 other times. :p Get your KS hiney down here; become a transplanted Texan.

....and don't tell me your moving down here again. Glad i didn't hold my breath the 10 other times. :p Get your KS hiney down here; become a transplanted Texan.



Yeah, so I can have a place to stay in Texas... :p

This year....
from OKC to Bigshow at Cedar hill -TX 299 Mile's
from OKC to Bigshot Midweek -TX 216 Mile's
from OKC to Zboaz -TX 205 Miles
from OKC to GCD -OK 103 Miles
*from OKC TO Duncan Hillclimber -OK 84 Miles
*from OKC to JDGF Zboaz -TX 205 Miles
from OKC to World dubs -TX 431 Miles
from OKC to GPO -OK 25 Miles
from OKC to Doo Dah -KS 158 Miles
from OKC to Norman pro/am -OK 25 Miles
*from OKC to Okie States -OK 25 Miles
from OKC to Mac open -OK 25 Miles
from OKC to Glass Blown -KS 240 Miles
*from OKC to Stillwate classic -OK 62 Miles
from OKC to OO -OK 103 Miles
*from OKC to AM World's -OK 103 Miles
from OKC to Twisted Flyer -OK 103 Miles
from OKC to Carrollton open -TX 194 Miles

Total = 2606 miles
Round trip = 5212 miles

For you's all's:
How about your MPG/fuel costs...? A worthy hobby, or a worthy way of life?! :cool:

It's a worthy hobby. I don't cash high enough or consistently enough to make it worth it from a financial standpoint but it sure is a lot of fun. I also like the idea that I can go to anywhere in Colorado and if I will know someone of the disc golf course I play. It's also nice to know if I have car trouble I knowsomeone nearby who can help me out. Disc goflers are good people in general who help out a buddy in need.

So...worthy hobby because I need to spend money on something and I like the competition. Worthy way of life bacause it makes me travel and I get to meet and see some very fun people.

Happy chains and dress warm!

-MADMAX

Didn't play many tournaments this year, but 2005 was pretty active.

Starting point is Lincoln, NE.

<table border="1"><tr><td>422</td><td>C</td><td>Alliance, NE</td><td>Dave Kimmel
</td></tr><tr><td>237</td><td>C</td><td>Sioux Falls, SD</td><td>Sioux Falls Open
</td></tr><tr><td>191</td><td>A</td><td>Kansas City, MO</td><td>KCWO
</td></tr><tr><td>189</td><td>A</td><td>Des Moines, IA</td><td>Challenge
</td></tr><tr><td>178</td><td></td><td>Herrington, KS</td><td>Discs Unlimited
</td></tr><tr><td>146</td><td>D</td><td>Amherst, NE</td><td>Watch Your Step Open
</td></tr><tr><td>126</td><td>D</td><td>Norfolk, NE</td><td>Grip It, Rip It
</td></tr><tr><td>108</td><td></td><td>Hastings, NE</td><td>Take the Lake
</td></tr><tr><td>99</td><td></td><td>Grand Island, NE</td><td>CYC
</td></tr><tr><td>60</td><td></td><td>Council Bluffs, IA</td><td>Back To School
</td></tr><tr><td>58</td><td>C</td><td>Omaha, NE</td><td>Spring Fever Fling
</td></tr><tr><td>58</td><td>B</td><td>Omaha, NE</td><td>A Call To Arms
</td></tr><tr><td>58</td><td></td><td>Omaha, NE</td><td>Ice Bowl
</td></tr><tr><td>42</td><td>C</td><td>Beatrice, NE</td><td>BADGER Bash - Katrina Relief
</td></tr><tr><td>0</td><td></td><td>Lincoln, NE</td><td>Ice Bowl
</td></tr><tr><td>0</td><td></td><td>Lincoln, NE</td><td>Cornhusker State Games
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1972</td><td></td><td></tr></td></table>

I am still planning on producing a spreadsheet of Open players at A-Tier events and the distances they traveled. It will take a while to compile all the data....hopefully I can get it done in the next few weeks as my time allows.

For you's all's:
How about your MPG/fuel costs...? A worthy hobby, or a worthy way of life?! :cool:



Hobby and way, MPG/fuel cost, just a calculated expense.

I wonder if the Players cup put Emac in the black for the year?

10,000 miles at say 24 mpg(doubt old red gets that good but close) 416 gallons at 2.90 avg = $1206 and 17 events at an average entry of 75 would be $1275 so $2481 for gas and entry Sprout is small so daily food cant be more than about 12 bucks a day for the 15 out of towners. even with lodging at 150 per weekend for the 15 totals for food gas entry and lodging should be at or below 5g for the year. I would guess the players cup almost paid for the entire year.

Eric you are truly a PIMP.

If you go on tour next year I may try to do a 2 or three event leg with you.

Just got all the data entered for all Pro A-tier traveling distances this year. This data is from the Open Men's division only. I need to put the whole thing in a better format. Will post when I get done.

471 miles to Marshall Street towing an unlicensed, unlighted pig smoker. Harrowing!

My Nissan Frontier (4 banger) might get 24-25mpg on the highway...more like 21-22 on average? Sheesh.

Heres the report:

http://members.cox.net/dg23837/ATierProDistance06.htm

They are in chronological order down the first column, then back up to the second column. The totals are at the end of the second column. The links on the players names don't work. And, there are links to my little local website :D

Enjoy

Markus lives near Allentown, PA now so you could adjust those miles. Looks good Jerry.

Markus lives near Allentown, PA now so you could adjust those miles. Looks good Jerry.



Markus lives in the Wilkes-Barre / Scranton area which is about 90 miles north of Allentown, with the Pocono Mountains between. I wouldn't exactly say that's 'near.' :D

A little closer than Sweden though :eek:

Karkus Mallstrom

Wow! Very cool and enlightening report Jerry! You ROCK! (no puns intended) :D

Hmmmm. I see Jay Reading is listed as having travelled 912 to ZBoaz...hmmmm Jay and Des usually are living in San Marcos that time of year - although I guess they could've taken a really scenic route on the way! LoL!!!

that is kewl. can you sort the data to get individual A tier travel distance by player?

Thanks Chuck. I'll use Allentown as his hometown and make the corrections at home tonight.

There are some inaccuracies for sure. Jay and Des Reading wintering in San Marcos, Barry & other touring players NOT driving from their hometowns before every tournament, etc... But, in some of those cases, these players could have travelled farther to get to that event than they would have if they HAD come from their hometown. Since touring players are a small percentage of the total Open field, its probably fairly accurate.

This list could probably be sorted in several ways. I could add a copy of the report to download, so peeps could sort it however they wanted. Would anyone be interested?

I didn't read but the first and last couple pages of this thread but I talk about this all the time to people from around here...Denver. Check out a map. If I travel north, I don't even know how far until there is another major city but it's a long ways. Going west, Vegas is 10 hours and Salt Lake about 8. Going south, Albuquerque is 6 hours (is that a major city??) and going east KC is 8 hours.
WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, so unless the tounament is in Denver we're going at least an hour, more when heading west into the mountains. But I still consider those a 'local' tournament. And it is ALWAYS worth it. Getting up to the mountains to play disc golf, whether 'roughing it' by camping or getting a room, it's a great atmosphere and great experience...great courses, laid back people, small towns with small town locals and small town prices.

If you want to plan a vacation around a tournament, plan to be in CO during the summer. There are tournaments almost every weekend, usually with a pretty good payout.

Check out this local, Joe Klosky, he only played one tournament outside of CO (not counting USDGC-he missed the 'other' A-Tier because of it, CO State Championships) and made almost $4G in 14 tournaments, playing almost every weekend, a pretty hot June I might add. It may not be the big bucks but he didn't drive more than 4 hours and played a lot of B/C-Tiers.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=18154&year=2006
I know a lot of guys that travel to KS, MT, NV,AZ, WY(the 2 a year they have in Gillette anyways) and elsewhere to play tournaments, especially guys that are new and have the tourney bug, or have been playing for a while and want to play some new courses and tourneys. Those places begin at 5 hours and just go up from there.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to have to decide between 2 tournaments that are within a few hours drive. Maybe that's why all of our tournaments have at least 40+, often filling up weeks before the tournament. I know I was contacting someone about a tournament out of state and they hadn't even started registration a month before, we fill some a month out.

peace,
-mikew

--it's nice to read a thread that doesn't have ranting and raving or a bunch of banter and bs between 2 people (then again I only read pg1,2,6,7)

Here's mine (including marshal trips as well as playing)

I drove them all, mostly by myself (not entrely), and almost all in one sitting, because I'm insane, and I own a Prius. No flying. All miles listed are round-trip. Yes, I came back from Phoenix in a single 19 hour sitting, stopping for gas only....which was only like 3 times in the Prius.

Memorial (Scottdale, AZ) 2733
BG Pros (Bowling Green, KY) 1055
J&B Rolling Hills (Lamoni, IA) 231
Walk The Plank Challenge (Council Bluffs, IA) 363
Pickard Open (Indianola, IA) 360
Des Moines Challenge 387
Kansas City Wide Open 0
Iowa State Championships (Ottumwa, IA) 438
Mid-Nationals (Highbridge, WI) 1338
Mid-America Open (Columbia, MO) 250
Glass Blown Open (Emporia, KS) 217
Des Moines Open 387
Frontier Open (Hays, KS) 536
Lake Shawnee Open (Topeka, KS) 127
U.S. Women's Championships (Peoria) 762
Am Worlds (Tulsa) 550

TOTAL 9734 miles.

You left out Low Gap. :D

Heres the report:

http://members.cox.net/dg23837/ATierProDistance06.htm

They are in chronological order down the first column, then back up to the second column. The totals are at the end of the second column. The links on the players names don't work. And, there are links to my little local website :D

Enjoy



if you did masters aged players i would have a good chance at being on top!! :D

nt's, major's, a & b tiers across the country

mostly fly in day before,flyout night of last round :eek:

You left out Low Gap. :D



How could I forget the birthplace of Rob Florida? :)