pterodactyl
Nov 08 2006, 09:53 PM
If you take care of the TD report, wouldn't that be good enough? Especially if you delegate the vital tourney duties out like an anal retentive and the tourney runs totally efficiently, couldn't you be playing at a different tourney?

bruce_brakel
Nov 08 2006, 10:20 PM
There is nothing in the sanctioning agreement that says you will be physically present. I'm only aware of one occasion where this was done and it ended disastrously.

quickdisc
Nov 08 2006, 10:29 PM
:eek:

Nov 08 2006, 10:42 PM
There's a place on the TD report where you are asked to list "all non-playing certified officials" which I have always thought was funny. I've always been tempted to copy all of the certified officials and paste them into the report but then I'd have to go thru and delete the guys who actually are certified AND played our event. Obviously they mean all the non-playing certified officials that were at the event. Anyway, if you were to delegate an event that person(s) should be a certified official (although there isn't anything in the sanctioning agreement to require this either). So, the TD of record would be on hook if something happened (like the TD report never getting turned in or the PDGA fees not getting collected) but I guess you could do it. I wouldn't.

ChrisWoj
Nov 08 2006, 11:34 PM
There is nothing in the sanctioning agreement that says you will be physically present. I'm only aware of one occasion where this was done and it ended disastrously.

I too am aware of an occasion where this was done. And it too ended disastrously.

Then again it was a D-Tier in northern Wisconsin. And when nobody, literally, shows up, it doesn't bode well for the tournament. On the other hand, making a guy that can't drive and has to catch a ride last minute to make it there and hasn't passed a TD test... is usually a bad idea whether somebody is going to show up or not.

Alacrity
Nov 08 2006, 11:56 PM
You or the co-TD are supposed to be a certified official. I would be surprized if the TD received sanctioning and was not a certified TD. If you want to play in your own tournament, you can but the co-TD is supposed to be an official. I am guessing if the co-TD is knowledgable and an official, there is no reason why the TD has to be there. On the other hand, I cannot imagine why the PDGA would allow the tournament to be sanctioned if this was an ongoing thing.

gnduke
Nov 09 2006, 12:25 AM
One could argue that this happens all the time when there are multiple courses involved. The second course is run by an assistant that is hopefully a certified official. Anything the assistant can't handle directly is often handled by phone with the TD.

discette
Nov 09 2006, 08:46 AM
According to the 2006 Tour Standards: An A-Tier event must provide one non-playing certified official for each course. This is not a requirement for any other level of events including NT's and Majors. (The PDGA provides certified marshalls at these events.) B & C-Tier events only need to provide a certified official for each course, non-playing is not a requirement.

MTL21676
Nov 09 2006, 09:21 AM
I've seen it happen before, so yes, I know it can happen.

m_conners
Nov 09 2006, 03:48 PM
I've seen it happen before, so yes, I know it can happen.



This is absurd.

pterodactyl
Nov 14 2006, 08:27 PM
I was actually being serious about this Q. Some biomechanical engineering guys from UOP(Pacific) wanted to have a tourney with their colleagues, simaltaneously put on a biomech expo with booths at 9 of the holes, and get some custom innova cfr's. innova told them they had to be pdga sanctioned. Mr. Neal (NorCal rep) asked me to help them. I did.