The Charleston Classic will be held this Dec. 2-3, 2006. There will be 2 courses in play, Trophy Lakes and Hampton Park. The flyer is circulating and will be posted at SCDGO (http://scdgo.net) soon. The entry fees at $49 for Pros, $29 for all Ams.

Pre registration is available at ZoneDriven (http://zonedriven.com) now.

The Pros will start off Sat at Hampton Park with a 9:30 players meeting. Sunday at 8:45 Trophy Lakes.

The Ams will start off Sat at Trophy Lakes with a 9:30 players meeting. Sunday at 8:45 Hampton Park.

There have been a few small changes to Trophy Lakes. A new map will be available in a couple days that shows all of the changes at the CDGC web site (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=268680&ck=).

Seperate awards ceremonies is the plan for this year for Pros and Ams.

The host hotel and more information will be on the flyer.

Hope to see everyone there.

Do you have an exact link to pre-register?

Do you have an exact link to pre-register?



http://www.zonedriven.com/proshop/index.php?p=catalog&parent=35&pg=1

thanks!

I'm in!

No. First you go to ZoneDriven and check out the sexy TTrim on the cover for a minute or two. Then you go to the Pro Shop and get some fresh plastic (you'll need it), but before you check-out you click Tournament Entries and sign up for the Charleston Classic. ZoneDriven has some cool stuff that you can't get just anywhere.

Charleston Flyer (http://www.charlottedgc.com/files/Charleston2006flyer.pdf)

79 dollars for the host hotel?!?!

surely there is something cheaper than that!

camping $10

: ) :

MTL has never camped and MTL never will.

The downtown area is rather expensive to stay. The host hotel is a nice spot with great views and a restaurant and bar on the top floor that is pretty cool.

There are less expensive options in the North Charleston area ($35-45 per night) and just accross the bridge in Mt Pleasant there are some hotels ($50-65 per night). I searched travelocity.com for these rates.

Good news on the travel front. Thanks to a sponsorship from Charlie Seighman and Blue Water Convenience Stores, we will be awarding $300 in Gas Vouchers. Thanks Charlie.

Take care,
Harold

all the free time you have and you cant go to expedia or orbitz. tighten up

Don't be threatened by camping tizzle. It won't make you liberal, democratic, or #$*&$!...nobody's gonna touch your furr. It's just gettin by without all the crap you think you need.

That )_+"$% out word started with G and rhymed with day.

Don't be threatened by camping tizzle. It won't make you liberal, democratic, or #$*&$!...nobody's gonna touch your furr. It's just gettin by without all the crap you think you need.



Actually I am very liberal and vote straight democrat and have my hair cut by a #$*&$! man, but nice generalization of my character.

Not trying to do any generalizing, but why so anti-camping?

b/c sleeping on the ground doesn't sound fun.

I just hope it doesn't rain

Thanks to Charlie Seighman for coming through with some great prizes for our competitors. In an effort to raise money for this tournament, the CDGC has come up with an InnColor design that will be ready for the tournament.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/charlestondiscgolf/2006%20Charleston%20Classic%20Final.jpg

Only 25 are being made in different molds (wraith, sidewinder, teebird, gremlin and orc). The discs are $25 and all of the profit goes into this event. Help us sponsor this event buy purchasing one of these limited edition disc designs. They will be available at both sites, both days. To pre order one, send me a PM or e-mail.

Called the tourney Hotel and they had no Record of this Rate.... anybody got any answers.....

Hey Brian - Thanks for the heads up. We called the hotel, and apparently the sales department had not informed the reservation staff about the tournament rate. The hotel indicated that this should be resolved by tomorrow. Folks should ask for the Innova Disc Golf Tournament Rate.
Take care,


Harold

Thanks Harold, no prob will call tomorow.

Hot looking disc design!

Got mine reserved today.

Did you get your room for $79.90 ?

We don't usually stay in the Tourney hotel. You know this man.

Wife here- figured since tourney hotel is somewhere else and no hounddogs around (at least I hope not) thought you and the wife might be at staying at Riverview. Oh well where are you staying? Miss ya, tell the Christina I said hello

Wife here- figured since tourney hotel is somewhere else and no hounddogs around (at least I hope not) thought you and the wife might be at staying at Riverview. Oh well where are you staying? Miss ya, tell the Christina I said hello

I didn't see an addy on the flyer to send the entry fees. I know ZD has a site but I like to mail checks. :DOne would guess to mail them to Innova?

Thanks

Innova Disc Golf
Attn: Charleston Classic
2850 Commerce Dr.
Rock Hill, SC 29730

It was on there somewhere, I swear...

Courtesy of Chad Garrett, a friend and graphics artist. I have some of his other designs on our club web site, my web site under PDGA profile "Logos by Chad Garrett".

There are only 7 discs left.

It was on there somewhere, I swear...



Thanks Matt

Snoopa gonna win!

just to let everyone know, the pre reg is posted now on PDGA.

thanks to Harold or whoever got this up - posting pre-reg lists is a good start to what I know is going to be another awesome Charleston Classic!

werd... thanks Peckman...jusTT a guess

Werd. NOT me, but a BERGEY.

How many will this tourny hold?
180???
just curious because I don't want to miss
out by signing up later...

Dear Jason -

We will probably limit to 144, 72 on each course.

Take care,
Harold

I have to thank the efforts of the Charleston disc golf club in getting some great sponsorships added to this event. With $500 from LionHeart Auto & Truck Repair and the InnColor disc sales of $375 plus a few more coming, we will be over $1000 for the event in added cash. Plus the $300 gas certificates from Charlie and Blue Water convenience stores. It is great when we can get together locally to support our event and make it something special. Thanks Team Chuck!

Any discs left and if so what molds? Thanks in advance for the info.

UPDATED PRE-REG.?????????????

duBBs

it was updated this morning, I believe.

I disappeared from the list. I will be the metaphorical "Pike in the Weeds" but would still like to know a spot was saved for those who paid.

I paid on the Zonedriven website last Thursday...anyone have record of this?

Adam Weaks

R U registered? Only a week till the course is installed.

One of the least expensive 4 round tournaments of the year. If you haven't played Hampton Park, it's your only chance each year!

Only a couple left not ear marked. They should rolling in Thursday with the Innova crew. Not sure models of the last couple. They have the picture up on Innova's INNColor Gallery page (http://http://www.innovadiscs.com/cfr/Gallery/) .

All right .... 5 days til departure....I have been way too quiet.....time to post.......SUN

Looking forward to meeting Harold and playing my frist out of state event. Heard only good things about this event. I will be leaving out Friday morning.....in a rental car....I collided into a deer Saturday and did about $3500 to the truck....is there a course map, description, distances for the Parks course?

recommend you play Trophy first since the Temp course might be ready until the afternoon.

TThanks big guy!

No prob Joseppy, ju brangin da wife wit ju.

I am hoping to, just depends on her work schedule. She is trying to get someone to switch shifts with her. PM me wher you guys are staying.

I talked to Innova and they are setting the course up Thursday afternoon, so in theory it will be ready for play Friday morning.

The 2 courses are about 15 minutes apart (for those who have not played) so you could certainly play both.

Nice, thanks for the info Jonas, I hope there plans become a reality.

If coming form the Mt Pleasant are which one should I play first and how do I get to the it and then the second course?

Here http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Mt+Pleasant%2C+SC+Red+Roof+Inn

JONAS IS THAT A PICTURE OF YOU ON THAT CHARLESTON CLASSIC DISC?

If you are approaching the courses from Mt Pleasant, you would come to Hampton Park first.

Directions to Hampton Park:
Stay on Hwy 17 South across the Ravenel Bridge over the Cooper River, past the exit for I-26. Take your first right after the highway comes back down to street level onto Coming. Follow it about 3-4 blocks until it deadends, and take a left. Continue a couple of blocks and turn right on Rutledge. Take that 6-8 blocks, and the park will be on your left - keep your eye out, and turn left just before a ballfield with high walls. That turn takes you to the park; turn right and follow around until you come to some parking on the left - park there for hole 1.

To get to Trophy Lakes from there, take Rutledge back to Hwy 17 and make a right. Cross the Ashley River and bear left toward Folly Beach. Just after you cross over the Intracoastal Waterway (the Wappoo Cut), turn right (there's a Bank of America at that corner, and stay on that road for a few miles. After you cross over the Stono River (another big fixed span), you'll come to a stop light at River Road. Continue on through and the turn to Trophy is on your right after about 1/2 mile. Look for the waterskis with "Disc Golf Course" painted on them.

Hope this helps!

To get to Trophy from

WOW, thanks Vanessa! I appreciate you taking the time to write all of that out. Thanks again, and I'll see you at the tournament.

Probably Hampton first, it is on the way:
Get onto the Arthur Ravenel Jr Brg ramp - go 2.5 mi
Bear right onto the Morrison Dr ramp to East Bay St - go 0.2 mi
Turn left at Morrison Dr and head toward East Bay/Downtown - go 328 ft
Turn right at Huger St - go 0.5 mi
Turn right at King St - go 0.2 mi
Turn left at Cleveland St - go 0.2 mi
Arrive at Hampton Park(this is just one of many possible routes from Google maps)

To get to Trophy Lakes from Hampton:
Go back to the same entrance and take a right onto Rutledge Ave, right onto US 17 (Crosstown), south past the Host Holiday Inn, left onto SC 171 (Folly Rd.) over the stono river, right onto SC 700 Maybank Hwy. through James Island (5 miles) and onto Johns Island, through 1st light (River Rd), 0.7 mile to a right on Sailfish Dr., 1000 ft. to a left on Marlin to the end. Follow the dirt road around to the clubhouse.

Good map on google.

That is my picture WOOOOOGH!

Thanks Jonas! Southern hospitality at its finest!

come on people.....it is almost TTime for one of the best events of the Year. woooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo yeah CTTown

Walt can't make it this weekend and his hotel is a non refund -does anyone need a room?

PM him if you need a room!

I need to not have a fresh 4 inches of snow on the ground so I can go out and play...Hooray for the 4th snowstorm of this season...

Get on a board then.

see all youz guyz Friday!

Hey, dont threaten us wiTT

whats up WIT the weather, MAN?

not a threat.... a promise... ;)

for your viewing pleasure....

Fri Dec 1 http://image.weather.com/web/common/wxicons/31/38.gif Scattered T-Storms 73�/47� 60%

Sat Dec 2 http://image.weather.com/web/common/wxicons/31/11.gif Few Showers 63�/49� 30%

Sun Dec 3 http://image.weather.com/web/common/wxicons/31/11.gif Few Showers 54�/40� 30%

BOO on that forecast...

ButtaLoaf, your fired.

can't fire me when I'm workin' for free.... :p

If the weather isn't so good, go hang out here.

http://www.aswistakstory.com/images/team_trim.jpg

shouldnt that be <font color="red">RED</font>? the spot is next door, $4 bloody marys on sunday... possibly best ever

great for skipping out early

I will get in touch with my IT department to change to the appropriate color for ya. :D

Good Luck yooze gize!

I think Mike Nelson missed his teetime a few years back due to an extended liquid lunch at the spot.

Texas rocks!

Sparta from El Paso certainly Rocks! Did you fall asleep on your keyboard? It looks like you might be trying to top MTL with the post count...It's not possible

Heading out early in the a.m. NC boys the cell is 252-560-1745. I 'll se you on the course. Drive safe!

And <font color="red"> </font> RED <font color="black"> </font> it is!

And <font color="red">RED</font> it is!

well done

Innova has Hampton Park up for play. It looks great. Doubles will be held at Trophy Lakes at 3:00.

Weather is changing. Now it looks bad today and Sunday but Sat should be nice.

Schweb and C Lee tied at -14 after Hampton Park. I think they are 6 - 8 strokes ahead of third (Greg Watson from Charlotte). Trey Johnson rounds out the top 4.

Not sure really how close everyone is, but third on down to about 20th is tight.

Hampton played about a half to a full stroke harder than last year as a few holes were changed and made slighty tougher.

Charleston is the most ballinest* spot on the South Carolina shoreline.
***-------***
Star Wipe
***-------***

* You must have the most ballinest ballin ability to understand this #$*&$!.

WOW, look at the Tobacco road players. Good job guys, bring it on home. Is C Lee, Challenging the ThumberMaster for most feared opponent? If you guy's keep this up, they will ban NC players from playing in SC.

Mini Thumber

Go JiMi. Will never miss agian. **** parents

Go Watson!

Hey youngin, careful on the parent thing. Your day will come, plan on next year and we can share a room, and expenses. It is a great tnmt.

And <font color="red">RED</font> it is!

well done



Yahny, don't get beat by Intermediates!!!!!!!!!

I agree Frizz, check out the scores of some of the Intermediates. I think we have a new bagger headquarter's tnmt spot.

intermediates played Trophy shorts, which cut several key drives off the par 4 holes. Most of them over water shots.

Any updates on the scores yet. Who is the Champ

Schweb wins

Once again, King Thumber has risen to the front. Way to go, thumbers rule

Big surprise congrats Schweb.

Just to start, Congrats to all the winners this year! However, I just wanted to voice a few opinions that I heard over the weekend about the tournament on the Amateur side. I heard a few people talking and I noticed it my self that the tournament was not run as smoothly as it could of been for the ams. First of all some of the meeting times were not on time, however not a big deal.

Next there were not enough ground rules sheets printed for everyone and this was vital because many of the rules were very confusing.

Also if you are the T.D. or helping run the tournament I would think that you would need to know all the rules of the course and how the course rules are supposed to be played. However numerous times the guys running the tournament were not sure what was out of bounds or how the out of bounds was played, This is bad.... I heard many people say they were playing a certain hole one way while others played it another way which can cost some players in the tournament strokes.

Finally this is an Innova Tournament, and all they give out is Trophy Discs!!!!! Come on now, I understand there are CTP's given out to every group but for Innova all of these things come at below cost and its not a big hit for them to actually give out there product in the form of merch bucks or something similar.

In past years the tournament has been great fun to play, even though the biggest disc golf company in the world only gives out trophy discs for prizes. However, the tournament this year seemed below par.

There were gas ctps suppost to be given out from blue water that never were and if your not going to give them out then dont mention it in the players meeting.

These are not just my views, I've heard all of this from other players and I've witnessed all of this myself. Im not bashing the TD or anyone involved in the tournament, these are just issues that need to be fixed.

Congrats Schweb.

Chris,
As long as this tournament has been in existence, it has been a trophy disc only payout for amateurs. Hence why it is not expensive to play. A two day, four round tournament for under $30. Where else do you get that. Also factor in that the INNOVA gang go out of there way to organize, obtain permission, transport baskets, and set up perhaps the greatest temporary course I have ever played, and I have a hard time justifying your rant over being slighted. Next, perhaps you should just move up and play Pro. No matter where AMs tend to play, and no matter who the TD is, it seems like chaos occurs. In my experience, I have found more truth in blaming the amateur player, for a variety of reasons. Inexperience, and failure to pay attention and ask the much needed questions PRIOR to the start of the round are just a few that jump to mind. Lastly, I would never have expected you of all people to post what could be taken as a slanderous or cheap shot at INNOVA. If you have a better way to run this tournament, perhaps since you live near Charleston, you should take it over. I am sure the INNOVA guys would find it much easier to simply drive down and play from Rock Hill, rather than go through all of the efforts they did to make it happen this year. Just my two cents.
Craig

Hudson says Congrats to all the winners !

Oh, and way to go Cheeseburger!!!!!!!!

First off I said I wasnt bashing anyone and I understand that Innova and all the guys that work with them do a tremendous amount for the sport. And the payout witht the trophy discs is the least of my worries. What I was referring to is the overall feel of the tournament this year. If you were not at the Am players meeting, not playing with the Ams, or didn't play with some of the guys that were running the am portion of the tournament then you dont know what Im talking about. Ive played this tourney three times before and its always had a reputation of being great and a well run tournament. I dont want that to change so Im trying to point out a few things that could be fixed to keep up its reputation.

And if you think Im bashing then your wrong. And Craig, you know me and I wouldnt say anything unless it was important to bring to light.

If you think because a player is amateur that it is his fault if he doesnt get the rules right, then that is ridiculous. First hand experience, I was at the players meeting listened to the entire thing, a couple of people where playing with a the guy who did the players meeting and when they got to hole 16 at Trophy Lakes they ask the guy how the OB plays on the hole and the guy says, "Im not sure?" Then I am in another group with a guy that works for Innova and we are playing together, we come to the same hole and he says hes not sure how the OB plays on the hole but come to find out he plays it entirely different from the other Innova guy......

And if you have maps and ground rules for the players so they can know the rules and then run out of them so all the players dont have them what is a person to do?

I have been by no way slighted either, none of the calls affected me.

Big surprise congrats Schweb.

thanks Smackie

Congrats Schweb.

thanks Cristopher

Oh, and way to go Cheeseburger!!!!!!!!

Thanks Craig mullet

How bout a top ten run down.

Charleston was the heat, like always.

It's not often that I will ride 4 hours to a tournament being sick as crap and knowing I'm gonna play in rain, and that is exactly what I did this weekend - just an awesome experience.

I gotta give a BIG thanks to Jonas and his crew. Trophy Lakes in the past was one of my least favorite courses to play and now with the changes it is awesome!! It is actually a course I really enjoyed playing. I went out there Saturday night to see the changes and I was really looking forward to play it Sunday morning. Thanks for your commitment to improving disc golf in your area!

Congrats to Schweb. Maybe I should just copy and paste that and get it ready for next weekend.

Who else cashed?

Not me - haha

I can't believe you of all people are not ellaborating more. How bout the top ten.

Schwebe
C Lee
R Tucker
CuTT, Watson
Trey J
MJ, AAron
Jonas, Travis, BS
Carter and Cuban maybe

I probably messed that all up, but I know I was in a 3 way for 9th.

I had a great time, it is always good to have a big crowd of great golfers come to my backyard and teach me how the game gets played. Congrats to all the top finishers. Get on down next year PP.

We will continue to try and make the Charleston Classic the finest event possible and I hope that everyone will be back next year, and then some. If anyone has any comments or suggestions please feel free to PM me.

Disc Golf Rocks!

Atta boy, Watson! Nice mention of the 3 way Jonas. Ju just earned 25 extra TTrim points. :o

JUff was 12th

MTL, thanks for the kind words on the new course layout at T-Lakes. Jonas and I came up with the new layout (new 8 tee box, taking out old 16, chopping old 12 in half, new 17 etc.) and we were anxious to hear how the new layout would play for pros and ams alike. We had a few early doubters but from what I have been hearing our efforts payed off.

I apologize to any fellow Am player who got screwed on OB/ground rules, that shouldn't ever happen and the Charleston DGC won't let it happen again.

I still think 16 is a little too long. I feel if it was shortened up some (around 350) it would make it a much better hole.

B/c of the low ceeling, the distance, and the nature of the shot (pure hyzer), it is really tough to get to. When a hole is like this, there is not much score seperation on the hole. Making a little shorter would increase the amount of 2's on the hole and make it a better hole overall.

I'm not saying that making a hole easier always makes it better, I'm just saying that in this case it does b/c there is not much score seperation on the hole unless a player messes up the hole.

The way I look at it is like this. If I came to that hole and it was the last hole of the tournament and I was down one stroke, I would be upset. I knew that I probably was not going to 2 the hole and the only way I could make up that stroke is for my competitor to mess the hole up. I would not want to be in that situation knowing there was probably nothing I could do on the hole to control the outcome.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks for all the work. I might even come down for the spring tournament I enjoyed the course so much.

Considering I have only witnessed one 2 on 16 (by some punk named Jonas :p ) and heard of only one other, you are probably right on a change. We had considered making it a par 4 by pushing the tee back close to the tree line or bringing the basket closer to the OB rope. That maybe only one of the changes we make before the summer tourney.

I heard Coral 2'd it both rounds.

You are correct though, pushing the tee back and making it a true park 4 is a good idea too. That would interesting actually - make the player think if he wants to lay up short of the road or try to get over on his drive. I like it!

there were definitely cashers.

David, Jonas and all the Team Chuck guys the Trophy lakes course was great this year, The changes made it easier but were well needed. I give it up to you guys for making Trophy Lakes a great place to play.

Thanks and you shouldnt apologize to anyone the charleston crew did a great job.

this TTourney was officially TTrimmed... sorry i messed up the TTrimfecta.

POWER MOVES SUN-day

congraTTs TThe Pro

me and honeycomb - 12th
slim curls - 14th
cuban - 15th
dirty - last ca$h...again

could have been a tie somewhere 14th-16th but you get the point

scores are up. However, it still has everyone playing the same layout for the ratings.

It can be a little tough to change it - I can change it if Jonas or someone wants to PM me the password.

Nice shootin CuTT and Big Wavy, way to represent!

No problem. New ratings look a little low for the rain but all have the correct par and layout per division. THanks Paul Bergey for all your work and the rest of the Innova crew. A lot goes into setting up a temp course like that.

look at winning score for the advanced vs the same score in the pros. -3

Roush averages 977.
David French averages about 960.

All the rounds are filed correctly, as were the divisions. I can't really explain the lack of rating match ups from am to pro. It's like a temperature inversion or something.

Pro ratings were lower at both courses. all rounds.

Chuck can answer this....... giTTerdunn Chuck les

All I can say is thanks for providing a most enjoyable weekend. This was my first event out of state and first time going to Charleston. I had a blast and the courses were lots of fun and provided a great challenge. I met some really cool people this weekend( David Wheeler, TACO, Conner, Stack,.....) and got to see of ny boys from Down East NC. Thanks to team INNOVA and Jonas and crew for all the hard work. I will definetely make plans to be back next year. Congratulations to all the winners and if you want some MOE come get some MOE @ www.kinstondiscgolf.com (http://www.kinstondiscgolf.com) December 16th and 17th. GI JOE....(static)......out.

I still think 16 is a little too long. I feel if it was shortened up some (around 350) it would make it a much better hole.

B/c of the low ceeling, the distance, and the nature of the shot (pure hyzer), it is really tough to get to. When a hole is like this, there is not much score seperation on the hole. Making a little shorter would increase the amount of 2's on the hole and make it a better hole overall.

i think the hole is fine the way it is. if you want a 2 you have to throw almost straight at the hole and low. if you want to throw the high hyzer, take your 3 and move on. if you throw straight at it, almost all pros should be able to get within 50, then you have to decide whether to run at it with the slope and water behind it or just lay up for the par.

The way I look at it is like this. If I came to that hole and it was the last hole of the tournament and I was down one stroke, I would be upset. I knew that I probably was not going to 2 the hole and the only way I could make up that stroke is for my competitor to mess the hole up. I would not want to be in that situation knowing there was probably nothing I could do on the hole to control the outcome.

nothing you can do? how about trying a shot other than the hyzer to put yourself within 50 and give yourself a chance for the deuce. limiting your shot selection is limiting your abitility to improve your score on this hole.

Good points.

However, I was refering in terms of the overall field, not just pros. I would garuntee the score seperation on this hole is very poor.

Dear Chris �

Each competitor is an important customer of the event. And customer input is important to me, so let me try to address the issues in your note.

The Saturday player meeting was delayed to allow some last-minute registrants. With the relatively small field and all the extra work that goes into staging the Charleston event, we wanted to make sure we could accommodate as many folks as possible. Sunday�s player meeting was delayed in part because one of the targets was stolen overnight.

You comment regarding the ground rules is right on. We should have had more copies of the ground rules. Next year we will plan to have a copy for each competitor. And we will make sure that all the Innovites are well versed in the rules.

The amateur awards were consistent with our longstanding policy. Amateurs pay modest entries, receive nice player packs, and compete for glory and trophies. Pros pay high entry fees, do not receive a player packs and compete for cash.

The gas coupons were awarded. The winners in the Ring of Fire contests were the beneficiaries of some of Blue Water�s fine sponsorship.

I hope you arm has recovered since I saw you last. If you or other folks have suggestions for improvement, feel free to post here or contact me at 800.476-3968 or [email protected]

Take care,
Harold

i understood that point chuck, and i dont think it needs to be changed.

great course redesigns by everyone involved.

great course redesigns by everyone involved.



I Agree 100% Trophy Lakes is a great course now!

Just to start, Congrats to all the winners this year! However, I just wanted to voice a few opinions that I heard over the weekend about the tournament on the Amateur side. I heard a few people talking and I noticed it my self that the tournament was not run as smoothly as it could of been for the ams. First of all some of the meeting times were not on time, however not a big deal.

Next there were not enough ground rules sheets printed for everyone and this was vital because many of the rules were very confusing.

Also if you are the T.D. or helping run the tournament I would think that you would need to know all the rules of the course and how the course rules are supposed to be played. However numerous times the guys running the tournament were not sure what was out of bounds or how the out of bounds was played, This is bad.... I heard many people say they were playing a certain hole one way while others played it another way which can cost some players in the tournament strokes.

Finally this is an Innova Tournament, and all they give out is Trophy Discs!!!!! Come on now, I understand there are CTP's given out to every group but for Innova all of these things come at below cost and its not a big hit for them to actually give out there product in the form of merch bucks or something similar.

In past years the tournament has been great fun to play, even though the biggest disc golf company in the world only gives out trophy discs for prizes. However, the tournament this year seemed below par.

There were gas ctps suppost to be given out from blue water that never were and if your not going to give them out then dont mention it in the players meeting.

These are not just my views, I've heard all of this from other players and I've witnessed all of this myself. Im not bashing the TD or anyone involved in the tournament, these are just issues that need to be fixed.




I remember playing as an AM (still play like one) and complaining about trophy discs. But at Earlwood Classic 2006, I got my first win in AM and got a mere $60.00 merch bux after having a nice field. Did I complain about the tournament or directors? Absolutely not. I just decided to MOVE UP!...and I did. Next. Since you don't like the way innova paid out, even though since I can remember that's how it's always been, have your wonderful sponser Gateway to sponser a tournament. I'm sure they can afford to have a good payout to have more people show up the next year. Not bashing ya Chris, just voicing my opinion. Though, I have had that problem with TD's and officials not explaining or knowing the rules at Govan in October 2006.

All of you are correct to some point. Hats off to Innova and Jonas and crew for all they do. It is a nice course, and wish I could have found someone to share a room with. It is impossible to run an event of that magnitude flawless, sounds like it came close. We can all help TDs, by thanking them for what they do, pick up a piece of trash along the way, which is what we should be doing, and register and arrive on time and support the TD. What I have noticed at most tnmts, is when a TD calls a players meeting, 80% show up to hear what is being said, and only 50% of those listen. They (TDs) deserve our respect, and we can all assist by allowing them to pass out information, so all players get the same information.

Congrats to the North (is there more than one) Carolina players. Way to bring it.

Thumbers Rule
Mini Thumber

Proud Member of team FFF, Disc Golfers helping Disc Golfers.

Well said Mini TThumber

I am glad I was able to attend. Great experience. One course suggestion at Trophy Lakes I have is for some adjustments to make it more balanced. Most players are able to play it well throwing nothing but some version of a hyzer (except for hole 7 and 14). I personally prefer competing on courses that demands many different shot-shapes out of the tee.(please take this in the most positive, building up, way). Hampton's terrain is amazing, especially the fountain hole, thanks for all the preparation and efforts.

As stated again, I have no problem with the payout at the Charleston Classic. Ive played the tourney many times and I know what is given out. My complaint is not about the payout and if people wouldnt just keep saying that I need to get over the complaints of the payout then there would be no problem. If you dont have anything to do with Innova then don't speak about what you dont know.

Harold has addressed the issue like the true professional he is and thats all I wanted. Thanks Harold.

And I could really care less what any body thinks about my comments, Ive been playing Am for years and will continue to play Am and yes ive had a few wins this year, and have a sponsor but until my game gets to where I want it, I will play Am.

And Mike Gateway has sponsored a tourney down here in the South, It was called the Orangeburgs Outrageous held in September and with a 25 dollar entry fee every person there left with at least 4 discs.

Harold Im pretty much fully recovered except for some residual pain after rounds, other than that I am fine....Thanks for asking and keep up the good work.

I am glad I was able to attend. Great experience. One course suggestion at Trophy Lakes I have is for some adjustments to make it more balanced. Most players are able to play it well throwing nothing but some version of a hyzer (except for hole 7 and 14). I personally prefer competing on courses that demands many different shot-shapes out of the tee.(please take this in the most positive, building up, way). Hampton's terrain is amazing, especially the fountain hole, thanks for all the preparation and efforts.



I threw bad hyzers, and it showed @ trophy lakes. I still liked the course and from what i have heard it is much better. I will definatly be back next year!!!!

Big ups to the whole Charleston crew for throwing this shindig. I had a good time and will be back next year. This was my first tourney in '04, and it has been better each year. Also, thank you Jonas for all you did this weekend. I want a rematch next year at the poker table.

everyone should be a TD for a day....but then what would we argue about?? Good for you Chris for voicing your opinion. Based on Harolds reply, next year's tournament will be even better, and I believe that is what your intention was.

If opinions are never voiced about tournaments, then how do they improve?

Thats exactly what my intention was Sauls, I've played the Chareston Classic since 04 and this year it seemed not to be up to the standards it has been in past years and this year was the first time I heard people actually state there opinion during lunch breaks that some things could be done better. And like Robert was saying nothing could or would get done if no one voiced there opinions. Now that Ive voiced my opinion Harold has replied and is going to do everything he can next year to make the event an even bigger success and thats all I wanted. And for anyone that knows me they know that Ive been around tournaments enough to know what goes into running a big event, course preperation, scores, etc, so they know im not just speaking obliviously about what I dont know.

Chris, calm down, you need a hug bless your heart. You voiced, right people heard, and accomplishments will be made. Did you have fun, if so, then when is the next tnmt right!

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Ive been calm :DGuess I will probably see everyone at the Savannah Open

was chall-sTTon not a southern nationals qualifier this year?

Paul told me that "Yes" it was a qualifier.

DNA: Come up to Myrtle Beach this weekend so I can give you a big bear hug. :D We have room for you.

as long as he doesnt complain about TThe TTourney in any way.... ;) :p :eek: :D

Hey Jonas, Im going to try. I called Duke today and he confirmed what you said. I will be in touch....hey send me your cell number so I can be in touch if I come tomorrow.

And as for you Brian, You were my pick for this weekend but with those comments :D:D:D i dont know now....just kidding, and your gonna have to show me how to throw that thumber so long tooo....hopefully see you guys this weekend.

TThanks. just asking because i did not see it on the Southern NaTTs Schedule (http://www.sndg.org/tourn.php)