I'm doing well from 30 ft. in, and laying up outside of 60 ft. But those 30-60 footers are killing me, lol. Anyone have any good tips for increasing accuracy and runs for the basket 30-60 feet out? Not saying I never make them, but my consistancy is not good. I always feel like it's 50/50 skill/luck.

Jump puTT

I always feel like it's 50/50 skill/luck.



It isn't?

practice?

: ) :

Whenever I'm a distance where I don't feel confortable jump putting or when I want to lay up, I throw an approach

I experimented a lot with ways of approaching. Common sense says throw a hyzer, but I found that I would often fluff my hyzer and leave it 10 - 15 short.

After much practice I found that an annyhyzer approach took out the fluff factor for me.

In situations where I have to throw a hyzer, I usually concentrate on not being afraid to go long and in some situations, throw a flipper roc just for some extra glide.

Yeah, anywhere around 60 feet I'll jump putt, too. Like MTL, I'll use some ani for them to prevent that ugly fade to the left if I mess up and put too much air on the putt.

I find it a bit scarier from 100-150.

MTL has stumbled upon the answer. The nose-up anny "UFO floater" app/putt is my go-to when I'm outside of my comfort zone of putting. Some will go in, some won't, but I can count on a tap-in leave.

Great advice. I've been working on my anny upshot/putt all summer ... guess I just need to keep working it till it's more consistant. This is only my third year playing competitively, and I'm realizing how important it is to have a "technique" for this shot, expecially when I'm in the open and have a clear shot at the basket. It seems to me that raising the percentage of birdies I make from this range is really important to my game (maybe next year I'll be getting a little closer to the basket more consistantly).
I'm going to be playing our short 9 hole in Carbondale, CO a lot to work on my form. I think I've also found the putter that works best for me (Star Aviar), so I'm going to stick with it. I'm also learning to throw some slower discs like the Polecat, Birdie and the Whitler, for holes that have risky ground.

Nobody mentioned the step putt. I feel like I have a little more control with a step, than with a jump ... but then I haven't been practicing the jump a lot.

Or Flick a Whippet.

Soft Rhyno...THE "when in doubt disc"...for me, anyways! :)

I love my Skeeters. I putt AND approach with them. As an approach disc they will take and hold any line of release. You can throw them deadly stratight, put a nice anny line on, or even hyzer approaches. They tend to land flat and stay where they land. When I throw a little anny approach with the nose up, they just drop flat on the ground next to the basket. No need to worry about comebacks with this disc, even on tricky ground.

Yeah just watch out because all skeeters disappear in the winter.

Don't know how to answer this question.

Inside 75ft I generally make an attempt at making it. Of course, if they go in at that distance its luck. But generally I don't have problems with them going much past 15-20ft past the basket, unless I catch a funky roll. Obviously I won't go for it if I am trying to secure a position.

But at the same time, I have learned that if I go for something that long and end up in a nasty spot, I just accept the fate, after all, I did go for it.

As for technique, I just use the same form as my regular putt, but with a little more power.

Getting the putter to land flat if you miss is key to lessen roll-aways.

How is hitting a 75fter luck? I expect to at least hit metal and I know a guy who makes about half of them. His name is.............ALEX DOWNS :D

Maybe my perception of a 75footer is longer then actual. Don't know because I don't use a tape measure when I play. The 10 meter circles seem awfully small when I see them at tournaments. No wonder my glasses are a strong prescription.

How is hitting a 75fter luck? I expect to at least hit metal and I know a guy who makes about half of them. His name is.............ALEX DOWNS :D



Yeah, but Alex is a putting machine...I dont think I've seen him miss inside 50 ft.

Well I did 1st hand at Tx state dubs where he missed 44 or 48 putts. I would guess that 25-30 were within 40ft.

Since then he has been back to his usual form. :D

I'll have to try one !!! :D

Agreed - the nose-up slightly-anny floater is the way to go. A little extra snap - sometimes with a little air-bounce. If the speed is slow enough a miss will leave you very close - since it comes in very flat there is little chance for skipping or rolling away.

Imagine you are playing catch with your friend and you want to hit him/her very softly in the belly.

Although 'Nose Up' is way better than 'Nose Down', the ideal way to putt (or drive) is flat. The 'nose up' shot is so touchy in the wind, that it doesn't make alot of sense for me. I feel the proper way to achieve a safe putt that still has a chance of going in is to loft it like Ken and Barry do.

The only reason to not loft your putts would be if you are already set in your ways as a straight in putter, but if you are currently developing your style it will pay huge dividends to learn how to drop the disc in the basket.

For the 30-60ft range, the jump putt is invaluable. When done properly, it makes these putts seem simple. For me, it allows me to throw a 40ft putt with the same arm speed as a 20ft putt. The only difference between the 40ft putt is that I supply additional power from my legs.

Something Else to think about regarding 'jump putting':
Jump putting is illegal inside of 10m meters for a reason. It is because it makes putting easy. If it was legal to jump any putt, good jump putters would almost never miss within the circle. Try it! There is noting wrong with practicing jump putts inside the circle to find your line, then moving it back as you get better. It generally takes non-jump putters many more years to achieve 30-50% consistantly for 30-60ft putts than jump putters.

Good luck, and practice more frequently rather than long sessions! (if you have the time to frequently putt long sessions, more power to ya)

There is noting wrong with practicing jump putts inside the circle to find your line, then moving it back as you get better. It generally takes non-jump putters many more years to achieve 30-50% consistantly for 30-60ft putts than jump putters.



Best advice I've heard yet. Thanks!

There is noting wrong with practicing jump putts inside the circle to find your line, then moving it back as you get better. It generally takes non-jump putters many more years to achieve 30-50% consistantly for 30-60ft putts than jump putters.



Best advice I've heard yet. Thanks!



Indeed! :cool:

alex d is better from outside of 70ft versus 40ft.

Yeah but I keep them within 40ft. :DMaybe we shoul take the longest putt next time.

if your his partner I would :D:)

Then again I may have us covered inside of 40ft and it is funny to listen to him when he talks to himself. Oh Alejandro why you do dat you should trow tee tumer. :D

Something Else to think about regarding 'jump putting':
Jump putting is illegal inside of 10m meters for a reason. It is because it makes putting easy. If it was legal to jump any putt, good jump putters would almost never miss within the circle. Try it! There is noting wrong with practicing jump putts inside the circle to find your line, then moving it back as you get better. It generally takes non-jump putters many more years to achieve 30-50% consistantly for 30-60ft putts than jump putters.

So your saying , jump putting is like .........cheating ?

I can stand still and pop a 80+ footer sometimes without moving.
Maybe I don't need to jump putt and have someone always checking my foot placement. :p

The thing is , there have been debatable calls lately to as of where 10 meters begins and ends. Some have taken advantage of this and have jump putted within 10 meters !!!!!

I'm from the Old School of players where no one would jump putt as the rule states , no additional movement while putting........ unless your declaring a upshot and not a putt.

Just my thoughts...............................I don't want to hear anything said by anyone , thinking I was cheating or trying to win at any cost !!!!

Until the PDGA declares the legality of jump putting with a specific ruling stating such ..................................I will play by the rules only. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Here's your rule. Moving past your lie after the disc is release IS legal outside of 10m. I don't seem to get you logic Donny.

BTW I see more questionable calls on footfaults on the tee and on upshots then I do on jump putts. I mean if they cross the line on the teebox after the disc is released it is ok but if they still had the disc it is a footfault right? Well the same is true with any other shot outside of 10m. Maybe they should justify why you can't do it within 10m.

The thing is , there have been debatable calls lately to as of where 10 meters begins and ends. Some have taken advantage of this and have jump putted within 10 meters !!!!!



I agree there should be a better way of determining 10m than a group decision. The way the system works now, I won't even bother to ask for a jump putt at 10.3m because people generally perceive that distance as shorter. I end up not being able to jump until more like 11m or 12m.

What I like the best is when there is a painted 10m circle at tournaments. I would like to see this happen at more tournaments. It eliminates any question of legality, and allows me to jump putt as close as I LEGALLY can. :cool:

Jump putting is completely legal and here to stay in disc golf because it is a definate advantage.

I was on a compass course team thing so I have my paces down withing about 2 inches up to about 60ft. :D

MTL has stumbled upon the answer. The nose-up anny "UFO floater" app/putt is my go-to when I'm outside of my comfort zone of putting. Some will go in, some won't, but I can count on a tap-in leave.




I use the same technique, only with a really beat putter, and no anhyser, more straight with a slight right fade when called for. Its a stroke saver, as you really cant go to far with that shot unless you try to kill it.

I rarely see people jump within 10 meters, but I see a lot of illegal jump putts. The rules state that you must have one supporting point in contact with the ground when you release your disc. If you see still photographs of people jump putting, they are most often already in the air with the disc still in their hand.

I have no problem with jump putting, as long as it's done right. (Plus the fact that if you're releasing in the air, it's probably not all that accurate anyway.)

Guys are jump putting within 10 meters............................................ ..because they don't care.

Then you stroke them. It is that easy. Around here we ask the card if we are out before putting and if they say no we don't.

Then you make cry baby enemies for life and your known as the snitch and can't be trusted.

Not only that , your car gets keyed and tires puncher'd.

Do I have to start carrying a gun like they do in Texas ? :mad:

Well if you don't want to enforce a "footfault" that is your problem. Now wouldn't the same be true off the tee?

I've never had an issue with someone when they ask how far out they are.

If they're close, I've said, "It's close." And they either step it off or don't jump.

Clean, simple, no harm, no foul.

Well if you don't want to enforce a "footfault" that is your problem. Now wouldn't the same be true off the tee?



:cool:No Problem I'll be the Enforcer.....................slight cut in the Achilles tendon , no more Issues !!!!!! ;)

Well if you don't want to enforce a "footfault" that is your problem. Now wouldn't the same be true off the tee?



:cool:No Problem I'll be the Enforcer.....................slight cut in the Achilles tendon , no more Issues !!!!!! ;)



Just kidding .....................you can cheat if you want ......................folks still do no matter what anyway.

Well Boneman, it's been a couple of weeks since your original post. Have you had any luck with the jump putt yet?? (I'm assuming you have been practicing)

Well, I wouldn't say I've been making progress, but I have been practicing when possible. Between work, and tourneys (two in the last three weeks, and one in another week), I haven't had as much time to practice as I would like.
It's going to get really tough after the time changes ... ARG!
I did make a couple of nice jump putts playing in the Johnny Robert's Memorial yesterday ... but fate was against me. I had three puts that were IN the basket from outside 30, and they jumped back out. It just wasn't my day ... had do settle for 3rd. :p
Only one more tourney here in CO for the season. I'll be working on the jump putt this winter.

Hey Boneman, put an aero in your bag for outside putts!
Glide on you crazy discgolfer....

I'm coming into this discussion late but I have to agree with the Aero. This disc has more glide than any other putter out there. The same power which you use to putt with an Aviar from 30 feet can be used to putt with an Aero from 60 feet and out.
Also a great disc for approaches when you would rather use a putt type of approach rather than a backhand approach.
There's a reason Larry Leonard used these for years and is considered one of the best putters in the game. 70 feet and in? He was money.

For me it all about practice. I tied a piece of rope to my basket (40ft in length) and I then taped markers starting at 10 feet and every 5 feet after that. I spend about 10 minutes warming up at 10 feet then work my way out to 40ft. I putt for at least an hour. Every shot matters!! I take time to size up EACH putt. Get a comfortable position, visualize the put going in, focus and putt. I do this for each putt no matter if it is uphill, downhill, on my knees, etc. This has made my overall game better, especially in touneys.

Lobbing a putt with a flat delivery is the best way to putt. Any technique you select can be mastered with practice so which one you select as far as execution goes will work. The advantages of lobbing a putt are:
1. You've significantly increased the size of the target. Take a look at a basket and envision a putt decending at a 45 degree angle aimed at the point where the basket meets the pole. Instead of needing to hit that 12" wide by 18" tall section of chain, you are looking at both the basket and the chains.
2. A flat shot that is lobbed does a belly flop on the ground and has a much descreased tendency to roll or skip away from the basket. They tend to stop within a couple feet of the initial point of contact with the ground. This not only leaves you with an easier next shot but, once mastered, eliminates nerves as you have little concern over a disaster as a result of missing. You pretty much eliminate any reason not to go for long putts because the putt technique IS a great lay up technique as well.