danielledford
Oct 01 2006, 05:50 PM
Who wins? Looking for a long, overstable forehand driver just a bit less overstable than a Predator/Monster level. I'm looking for anyone and everyone's opinions who've thrown both.
Thanks!
Daniel
thatdirtykid
Oct 01 2006, 08:12 PM
I would say it depends on your forehand form and desired line.
I perfer the Esp Avenger because I only use my forehand for controlled hyzers I think the fade is more predictable and it holds a hyzer line better. The Teerex seemed to fade at 60% sometimes and 85% others.
The teerex is more stable and flies a long low straight line longer. The fade on this line becomes more predictable, but still not completely predictable. On this line you are likely to occasionally turn the Avenger over while the Teerex would hold it better.
I bet the teerex would fly longer on any line including a flex shot also, as it does penetrate faster.
EDIT: You may also want to check out the pulse. The mini thumb grove is very comfortable for my forehand grip, and has a flight pattern similar to a teerex.
McCabe
Oct 01 2006, 09:58 PM
Who wins? Looking for a long, overstable forehand driver just a bit less overstable than a Predator/Monster level.
I'd try a ESP Pulse, It is a great long range stable disc. The ESP Avenger is more overstable than the Pred.
primetime
Oct 01 2006, 10:35 PM
Who wins? Looking for a long, overstable forehand driver just a bit less overstable than a Predator/Monster level.
I'd try a ESP Pulse, It is a great long range stable disc. The ESP Avenger is more overstable than the Pred.
How is the ESP Avenger in stability compared to an ESP Pulse thrown backhand?
PT Woods
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paerley
Oct 01 2006, 11:23 PM
Who wins? Looking for a long, overstable forehand driver just a bit less overstable than a Predator/Monster level.
I'd try a ESP Pulse, It is a great long range stable disc. The ESP Avenger is more overstable than the Pred.
How is the ESP Avenger in stability compared to an ESP Pulse thrown backhand?
PT Woods
# 20431
All the ESP Avengers I've thrown have been HOGS of overstability. I have a 165 that you have to throw on a roller line for an S Shot. Millz tossed this one at DGLO this year and can attest to it's stability. I have a moderately beat 174 ESP Pulse that's my hyzer to straight driver. New, it was VERY predictable on it's turn. Now it's got a touch of pull to the right when released flat for me full tilt. It always comes back though. In comparrison, I'd say the esp avenger turns sooner and more than a pulse.
circle_2
Oct 02 2006, 01:14 AM
The ESP Avenger is more overstable than the Pred.
So is this run a super-overstable fluke...a la the Innova 2nd run flat~top CE Valks?
thatdirtykid
Oct 02 2006, 06:15 PM
thats odd, Ive been throwing a ESP fundraiser one since they did the fundraiser run, and it is diffently less stable than a Z avenger or any Pred
my_hero
Oct 02 2006, 06:44 PM
I think you should try the new ESP Pulse. It's like a Surge on steroids, super long, super fast, great for the forehand shot. Flight characteristics much like the teereX.