So, who does the world think is going to win the USDGC this year? What do you think ..

Who is your favorite underdog?????
I say keep an eye on Coda Hatfield, Steve Rico, and a little known golfer Dave " HEMI " Hemmeline.
GO HEMI!

Maybe Scott Martin's time to break thru?

Possibly.....
I am sure there are still some individuals from Pro Worlds looking for a little redemption

You forgot TThe PRO!!!

Moser's on the rise ranked 6th and McCray likely won't oversleep with posted tee times.

Chuck, are you sitting behind a crystal ball? You just read my mind!

Who is your favorite underdog?????
I say keep an eye on Coda Hatfield, Steve Rico, and a little known golfer Dave " HEMI " Hemmeline.
GO HEMI!



What about Steve Mills?

I would be caddying for him. But considering I need crutches to hold up my own body, I doubt I could carry a bag full of discs around a 10,000ft+ course for 4 hours.

I predict either Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney.

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.

John E McCray has just as good of a chance at winning this year as anyone on the list to vote on. He is no underdog. I know that this years champ will be from FL this year, but Im not saying who.

Who is your favorite underdog?????



Justin Bunnell

I think team Michigan will do good Scott Martin, Al Schack, Geoff Bennet, and Steve Millz.

Sugar is my sleeper pick he is playing been solid all year but dont be suprised if Feldberg repeats he is origanlly from the mitten. GO BLUE!!

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.



NoTT TTo menTTion a NC residenTT. Go cheeseburger Go! See you in Crystal River. Home of the wet tshirt manateetees. :D

Justin Bunnell is my sleeper pick. McCray will be right there too.

Schewb, Moser, or Brinster

Not that he needs the wind to play well, but I sure was impressed by Ron Convers play , especially with windy conditions. If it is a windy week, I would not count Ron out.

I am pretty sure that Ron isn't going to make it.

I think that Eric McCabe will be in the mix. He has played some great rounds the last few weeks. His game has all the elements that are needed. He is solid off the tee, can hit his lines, and is a great putter.

GO SPROUT!

Matt Orum, Dean Tannock, Joe Thacker, Chris LaSonde and Tim Keith will be ones to watch as well!!!

ALABAMA!!! :p ;) :D

i'll go crazy with my pick for the year. Josh Anthon.

What about that golfer from Nebraska?

What's his name?

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.


Hey Jackass, the names I mentioned were and I quote, "Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney"
Next time why don't you try to read everything someone types? I know you're on your high horse about being the only player to finish in the top 5 in the last two...get off that high horse and win yourself a championship already.

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.


Hey Jackass, the names I mentioned were and I quote, "Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney"
Next time why don't you try to read everything someone types? I know you're on your high horse about being the only player to finish in the top 5 in the last two...get off that high horse and win yourself a championship already.



Boy, Who can tell he lives in BOWLder-der-der Co.?

Voted worst college football fans 5 years running, thanks for not letting us down.

Why don't you try and predict when Colorado will get its first win?

November 24th Nebraska 42 Colorado 13

Kevin McCoy or Coda Hatfield.

I am going to have to pick NorCal's best Nate Doss, Josh Anthon, Jim Oates or John Child.

I'm feeling a North Carolina victory this year.

I'll just end this thread by saying this...

Everyone will more than likely pic:
Kenny
Barry
Dave
Nate
A top player in thier region

Yup, there's a whole lotta regional favoritism going on 'round here.
With that being said, GO <font color="red">E</font><font color="yellow">~</font><font color="blue">MAC</font>!! :cool:

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.


Hey Jackass, the names I mentioned were and I quote, "Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney"
Next time why don't you try to read everything someone types? I know you're on your high horse about being the only player to finish in the top 5 in the last two...get off that high horse and win yourself a championship already.



Boy, Who can tell he lives in BOWLder-der-der Co.?

Voted worst college football fans 5 years running, thanks for not letting us down.

Why don't you try and predict when Colorado will get its first win?

November 24th Nebraska 42 Colorado 13


I don't give a crap about college football. I only moved here because my woman moved.

Hoping the west coast holds the title...Oregon or California.

Doss
Feldberg
Jenkins
Dorius
Anthon
Sprague
Rico

Hopefully one of those guys.

i don't think you ended the thread

Hoping the west coast holds the title...Oregon or California.

Doss
Feldberg
Jenkins
Dorius
Anthon
Sprague Still an Iowan at heart :D
Rico

Hopefully one of those guys.

Hoping the west coast holds the title...Oregon or California.

Doss
Feldberg
Jenkins
Dorius
Anthon
Sprague Still an Iowan at heart :D
Rico

Hopefully one of those guys.




Yep.

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.


Hey Jackass, the names I mentioned were and I quote, "Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney"
Next time why don't you try to read everything someone types? I know you're on your high horse about being the only player to finish in the top 5 in the last two...get off that high horse and win yourself a championship already.



Hey Mittenz to Schwebs defense, i think he was talkin about discboomer and the list of names on his poll...

Thank you

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.


Hey Jackass, the names I mentioned were and I quote, "Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney"
Next time why don't you try to read everything someone types? I know you're on your high horse about being the only player to finish in the top 5 in the last two...get off that high horse and win yourself a championship already.



Hey Mittenz to Schwebs defense, i think he was talkin about discboomer and the list of names on his poll...



In my defense, I chose to add the players that are hot on a international level of play. If I overlooked any talent or regional hot shots, please come on down to Texas and I will give you a nice warm shoulder to cry on.

In my defense, I chose to add the players that are hot on a international level of play.



This is just the most asinine post I've ever read.

You picked the last three world champs, the defending champ and a guy who finished 3rd at the worlds!

If you had done what you had said, your list would have included Mike Moser (4th at worlds, 4 super tour wins this year), Brian Schweberger ( top 5 last two years, 2 super tour wins this year), Josh Anthon ( 2 NT wins this year), Steve Rico (Japan Open winner) and I could go on and on.

How about a guy like a Markus Kallstrom? How about someone like Adam Olsen who just won a supertour. Michael Johannsen finished top 10 the last two years. What about Scott Martin who was leading after three rounds last year and finished 2nd?

Now, in your defense, unless you list every single registered competitor, then your poll will not be fair. But just listing who you did and then explaining the way you just did is rediculous.

Funny how the ONLY player to finish in the TOP 5 the last 2 years is not on your list......but that is cool, I like being the underdog on the DL.


Hey Jackass, the names I mentioned were and I quote, "Rico, Schweb, Moser, or Haney"
Next time why don't you try to read everything someone types? I know you're on your high horse about being the only player to finish in the top 5 in the last two...get off that high horse and win yourself a championship already.



Hey Mittenz to Schwebs defense, i think he was talkin about discboomer and the list of names on his poll...


Hey, I already gave him his props on the YeTTer and Sneaky Pete and my best wishes at the championship outside this thread :)

In my defense, I chose to add the players that are hot on a international level of play.



This is just the most asinine post I've ever read

Now, in your defense, unless you list every single registered competitor, then your poll will not be fair. But just listing who you did and then explaining the way you just did is rediculous.



Excuse me for being generic, I was basically looking for players that would come close to being disc golf household names. You and I know that there are plenty more competitors that could win this year. I was basically looking to start a thread that would give every crybaby in the world something to complain about. :D
I would like to point out that there are plenty of quality disc golfers pre-registered for THE event of the year, not complaining about not having their names on the poll! Perhaps they are secure with their game, enough to forego any recognition. Do me a favor cheeseburger, go out this year and win this mo-fo. Mabey next year I will put you on "my pole" :D

My pole, thats funny!

just for the record, I will not be playing in USDGC nor do I ever want to.

Why?

Pardon me, MTL. I thought you were schweeb! I really need a couple more cup's o java!

Why?



Could it be a yellow rope phobia?

I really don't like a course with a lot of OB. I don't like the fact that I could throw a good shot and then you could throw the same shot about 2 inches from me and I'm OB and you are IB. I don't think that 2 inches should change a great shot into a poor shot.

Also, I don't like some of the gimic effects of the course (i.e. clowns mouth, bambo wall, hay bales on 17). Just play the course, lowest score wins.

Plus I don't agree with how who is qualifed is determined. I think instead of TD's and state reps, they should look at some B Tiers as qulaifying events. It helps get some nicer B Tiers to be larger events and makes it more fair to players who live in an area (like myself) where the qualifying event is early in the year.

If I get the qualifying spot this weekend in Charlotte, I will decline it.

Please no one read this as "he's just ,mad b/c he didn't qualify" or anything dumb like that. I just don't want to play for these reasons. Also, I would prefer to play the worlds and see new courses. The selection process for who gets into worlds is more fair to everyone and does not penalize a player for mainly playing smaller events.

Please no one read this as "he's just amd b/c he didn't qualify" or anything dumb like that. I just don't want to play for these reasons.



I do not read it as "he's just amd", I read it as "he's just udm".

How is an OB rope and your 2" any different than missing a tree by 2" and kicking 40' into the woods (usually a 2 stroke penalty)?

There are plenty of good merits for how things are done now, and your idea also has plenty of merit.

How are bamboo walls, ropes, and haybales and more artificial than sandtraps, ponds, streams etc in ball golf?

umd

whatever...

a great shot should be in the basket or in the middle of the fairway, not 2 inches on either side of the OB line


Just play the course, lowest score wins.

this remains TTru

whatever...

a great shot should be in the basket or in the middle of the fairway, not 2 inches on either side of the OB line




No disagreement here, however, the score will be totally different if a player is 2 inches from another in my example

How is an OB rope and your 2" any different than missing a tree by 2" and kicking 40' into the woods (usually a 2 stroke penalty)?




very good point but at least when you kick somewhere in the woods you have a chance to recover by making a great shot. OB prevents the golfer from even getting a chance to recover like he could in the woods.

MLT if your not playing will you be my caddy? ;)

I will not be in Rock Hill this year at all, unless something happens.....

Really, when it comes down to it, everybody has the same o.b. to avoid . I think it will reward the smart golfer, opposed to the lucky golfer!

Risk Reward and making decision off the tee are two of things I love about the Withrop course for sure!

What about that golfer from Nebraska?

What's his name?



Nebraska Beer Ranger Travis Flett. :)

Chap

whatever...

a great shot should be in the basket or in the middle of the fairway, not 2 inches on either side of the OB line




No disagreement here, however, the score will be totally different if a player is 2 inches from another in my example



Then is your shot really a good shot?

I agree with MTL regarding the 2 inch difference costing another shot. Unfortunately, we don't have an easy way to create a proportionately more punitive penalty the farther offline you are. Trees are the natural way to produce that effect but Winthrop doesn't have enough of them. Thus, the artificial OB. I think if Harold could produce variable penalties, he would. The bamboo works that way. If you hit it, you don't get a penalty but you probably have a tougher shot and the potential to overcome it with an excellent long putt. It would be nice if we had an easy way to temporarily set up something like ball golf hazards that aren't automatically a penalty but usually make the next throw tougher.

It would be nice if we had an easy way to temporarily set up something like ball golf hazards that aren't automatically a penalty but usually make the next throw tougher.



Instead of hazards, you could force players who throw ob to throw their next shot with one knee on the ground. . . that would be somewhat of a penalty in most cases, but would not be an entire stroke.

Forcing a particular type of throw when landing in an area has been rejected by the PDGA course group (of which Harold is a member) as not in the spirit of the game. Creating hazards like deep bunkers where your most appropriate shot selections are limited by the situation is fine. It's just not something you can easily do temporarily for a course setup.

What about that golfer from Nebraska?

What's his name?



Nebraska Beer Ranger Travis Flett. :)

Chap



You cut me deep ole Chap, You cut me deep!

whatever...

a great shot should be in the basket or in the middle of the fairway, not 2 inches on either side of the OB line




No disagreement here, however, the score will be totally different if a player is 2 inches from another in my example



Then is your shot really a good shot?



no, if you are the close to OB, then neither shot was good. All I am saying is that one is much better than the other, not that one is good and one is bad.

I will not be in Rock Hill this year at all, unless something happens.....



Thank God.

Coda Hatfield is playing solid.

I will not be in Rock Hill this year at all, unless something happens.....



Thank God.



please refrain from making comments like this. It only further proves most of my points about you.

Tizzle quit ruining this thread...USDGC it is the heat!
My prediction is I will cash.

What about that golfer from Nebraska?

What's his name?



Nebraska Beer Ranger Travis Flett. :)

Chap



You cut me deep ole Chap, You cut me deep!



All in good fun, my friend. Besides, I heard you were living in Council Bluffs now, which would make you an Iowa boy now. :) Am I wrong?

Good luck down there...I hear you're going with Fred. That should be a fun time.

Chap

The issue of a two inches and one being a good shot and the other O.B. comes up frequently. While mp3 and reaL make good points (that is, you've made a good shot if you're in the middle of the fairway, not close to O.B. and the course is the same for everyone) there is another point to consider. Luck.

I have yet to play any sport where luck does not play a role. As MTL points out, same throw, slight difference, I'm in he's out. Here is the reality. First, to some extent we make our own luck, again, stay in the middle of the fairway and you're O.K. Second, luck balances in the end. Ask any "real" gambler who plays Vegas and they will tell you, over time, the house wins 51% of the time. It's an average. The same thing happens in a tournament. The longer you play, the less that two inch difference matters. This is why many players argue that anything less than a four round tournament leaves too much to random factors.

Over time, all the random events balance and you come to the true winner. MTLs notion that there is "something" wrong with Winthrop misses this point. The course is fair, it's hard, but it's good. The proof is in the pudding. Who wins? Do you see random players who get breaks from the OB rope, the CM, the hay etc. No, the same guys who win big elsewhere win big here.

There are really only two criticisms that merit a look, how you get there (I'm still not convinced that it isn't fair enough) and do you like that style of course. There will be some who don't like the course structure, well, some people still don't like the beveled edge (it has changed the sport you know). I think the best measure of this is what the people who've played say. I've yet to read postings from a large number of participants that say anything but the most glowing things about this course.

I don't like the fact that I could throw a good shot and then you could throw the same shot about 2 inches from me and I'm OB and you are IB. I don't think that 2 inches should change a great shot into a poor shot.

Also, I don't like some of the gimic effects of the course (i.e. clowns mouth, bambo wall, hay bales on 17). Just play the course, lowest score wins.



Amen.

Tizzle quit ruining this thread...USDGC it is the heat!




This is NOT the USDGC thread.

Why have foul lines in baseball? Why have sidelines in football, soccer, lacrosse, etc, etc. It's the same 2 inches. If it's in, grin, if it's out, pout.

I wasn't trying to say anything negative about the course or the best tournament in the world. I was simply answering a question to why I had no desire to play USDGC.

What about that golfer from Nebraska?

What's his name?



Nebraska Beer Ranger Travis Flett. :)

Chap



You cut me deep ole Chap, You cut me deep!



All in good fun, my friend. Besides, I heard you were living in Council Bluffs now, which would make you an Iowa boy now. :) Am I wrong?

Good luck down there...I hear you're going with Fred. That should be a fun time.

Chap



Living in Council Bluffs, HELL NO! I have too many teeth to move there. :P I AM going with Fred tho, and leaving in about 30 hours.

Did you happen to see I threw Sprague a woopin' last weekend @ The Treasure Cove Classic? I'm hopin' my last round was bout a 1050...

TanK Is Stoked...

Why have foul lines in baseball? Why have sidelines in football, soccer, lacrosse, etc, etc. It's the same 2 inches.



But in several of these cases, there's no additional penalty for crossing the line. If you swing and miss or hit a foul ball, it's still a single strike and not an extra strike for landing 2 inches outside the line. Likewise, if you run OB in football, they mark you there and continue versus losing an extra down or getting a 10 yd penalty.

Tizzle quit ruining this thread...USDGC it is the heat!




This is NOT the USDGC thread.


Thats why I said this thread, good call though... USDGC IS THE HEAT

I wasn't trying to say anything negative about the course or the best tournament in the world. I was simply answering a question to why I had no desire to play USDGC.



And I was just spouting off, that's what makes the MB fun. :D

Good luck to you at the USDGC and have fun. Bring your books with you to study, don't want to fall behind on your school work.

Why have foul lines in baseball? Why have sidelines in football, soccer, lacrosse, etc, etc. It's the same 2 inches.



But in several of these cases, there's no additional penalty for crossing the line. If you swing and miss or hit a foul ball, it's still a single strike and not an extra strike for landing 2 inches outside the line. Likewise, if you run OB in football, they mark you there and continue versus losing an extra down or getting a 10 yd penalty.



That has to be the best argument I've yet read about removing double penalties.

I wasn't trying to say anything negative about the course or the best tournament in the world. I was simply answering a question to why I had no desire to play USDGC.



And I was just spouting off, that's what makes the MB fun. :D



I Agree totally. But when people get on here and mouth comments simply b/c they have personal issues with me, it makes me upset. I don't care if a person does not care for me, I just want people to stop reading every single post I make as negative.

I understand that they are the problem, not me.

Yeah, but while arguing other sports and activities, why not talk about prison breaks: You cross the line and you die. No loss of yardage, no strokes added, just a bullet. :p

Yeah, but while arguing other sports and activities, why not talk about prison breaks: You cross the line and you die. No loss of yardage, no strokes added, just a bullet. :p



The Running Man part deux: Speed golf with a twist :D

Why have foul lines in baseball? Why have sidelines in football, soccer, lacrosse, etc, etc. It's the same 2 inches.



But in several of these cases, there's no additional penalty for crossing the line. If you swing and miss or hit a foul ball, it's still a single strike and not an extra strike for landing 2 inches outside the line. Likewise, if you run OB in football, they mark you there and continue versus losing an extra down or getting a 10 yd penalty.



the penalty in hitting a home run on the outside of the foul pole is a penalty of sorts, it costs you a homerun (or 2, 3, 4) and could even cost you an out (if it's your last strike).

No, it's not the same, but then there's skiing, where you get penalized for not going through the gates, or not traversing the course correctly. In skiing, a 2 second penalty is the difference between 1st and 18th.

That's not really a fair comparison either if you think of the reasons why we have OB lines at many of our courses.

Many OB lines are there to encourage players to throw in an area we have designed to keep other park users safe. If there were no disincentive, other than a placement back near the area where your disc went OB, as in your football analogy, then more players would throw over these areas with little concern for penalties. This could lead to more unpleasant incidents (hitting cars/people, intrusion in to environmentally sensitive/protected areas, straying on to private property, etc...) which could lead to courses being shut down.

OB lines are not always evil. Sometimes they have our best interests at heart.

I don't think some of us are arguing against "natural" OB, especially in the case of safety. But it's unfortunate that artificial OB with the penalty seems to be our primary option to add challenge to a temporary course layout.

Oscillating Turf fans. that'll do it.

http://www.subairsystems.com/NewTurfBreezeSite/TBDefault.htm

An innovative TD can always come up with something novel when it comes to creatively designed drop zone tee pads for certain types of OB throws. Such multiple drop zones could force a variety of throws, varying it on different drop zones, which would make a very-OB prone player demonstrate that they've got the game to recover from OB by their mastery of the type of shot(s) that is/are forced upon them by the skill-testing Drop Zone Teepad

IMO, ob's , mando's and schtuff like that are a true test of the disc golfers ability to control their flight of the disc. Call me crazy, but I was raised with the mind set of "MAY THE BEST MAN WIN" Artificial hazards are just another way of weeding out the best. Anybody can get lucky, not just anybody can be a skilled competitor. If the rules outline specifically that you will be penalized for going o.b. - so be it! We are not playing for participation ribbons. We are playing to win. If you have a problem with that , get back in the welfare line and I will stop by with your ribbon!

There is a solution to all this OB talk. throw discs you can control distances you can control them. Throwing beyond your limits of 100% safety have benefits and consequences. You wouldn't throw across the water 400 feet if you could pitch up 250 feet for a 200 foot across the water shot would you?

It's the same with the OB at Winthrop. If you don't want to go OB, play the hole smart and get your par. It can be done.

I second the motion!

I wasn't trying to say anything negative about the course or the best tournament in the world. I was simply answering a question to why I had no desire to play USDGC.

why was that question even asked? oh yeah, this completely unprovoked comment
just for the record, I will not be playing in USDGC nor do I ever want to.

was it necessary to turn a USDGC Prediction Thread into the why doesn't MLT like the best tourney in disc golf thread?

and "for the record" i think this tourney will finally be TTrimmed... the TThumber Pro is on fire-ahhhh

I predict I'll win JuZZball
Oops wrong thread, I thought it was about ME

Cale

well discboomer basically asumed that I was mad b/c I wasn't on the poll. I then said well I'm not playing nor do I want to. The question was then asked why and away we went....

Not blaming anyone, just stating what happened.

I could say I wish the best of luck to everyone (which I really do) and someone will be like MTL wants everyone to lose.

I learned at a tournament I ran this year that matter what I do people will complain and look at me negatively. So I don't even care anymore. I am super close to not helping any more tournaments just to prove what a valuable assest to the sport and the area I am (I think this was proved at Zebulon when me and Mike Norris refused to do the scores and they were not posted. Instead of asking the TD why they weren't, they immediatly got mad at us).

I'm done, maybe with everything. Who knows.

well discboomer basically asumed that I was mad b/c I wasn't on the poll. I then said well I'm not playing nor do I want to. The question was then asked why and away we went....

Not blaming anyone, just stating what happened.

I could say I wish the best of luck to everyone (which I really do) and someone will be like MTL wants everyone to lose.

I learned at a tournament I ran this year that matter what I do people will complain and look at me negatively. So I don't even care anymore. I am super close to not helping any more tournaments just to prove what a valuable assest to the sport and the area I am (I think this was proved at Zebulon when me and Mike Norris refused to do the scores and they were not posted. Instead of asking the TD why they weren't, they immediatly got mad at us).

I'm done, maybe with everything. Who knows.


I forgot the name of this thread is 'i tizzle'

I can't believe I'm catching hell for answering a question someone asked me!

I can't believe I'm catching hell for answering a question someone asked me!



Sometimes the best response is no response

Do me a favor cheeseburger, go out this year and win this mo-fo. Mabey next year I will put you on "my pole"

discboomer was referring to schweb when talking about the poll, that why i was confused as to why you would post that random statement unless you were looking to start a tangent based solely on your "negative" feelings towards the Open.

"for the record" 3 NC pros will finish in the top 10, and 1 LCJ in the ca$h... but where?

you were looking to start a tangent based solely on your "negative" feelings towards the Open.





I give up. We were having a good discussion on here about OB and yellow rope and everything. My feelings are not negative at all. USDGC is the best tournament in the world, there is no doubt about that. It has by far the highest purse to the winner, a good percentage of players making above 1,000 dollars and treats all the players like true pros.

However, I do not like some of the aspects of the course or how qualification is handled. That is all I have said on this thread, any thread, out loud, anywhere.

I don't put words in anyone's mouth and I would appreciate the same respect.

And for the record, I feel that only one NC golfer will make top 10 and that Kenny will regain the title.

were you simply answering a question, because it had all appearances of a statement made for the purpose of being questioned. or, the statement you made was such that you expected someone to ask you to explain therefore launching the tangent. or, you made the statement with the explicit intention of pontificating further upon any inquiry

I'm not gonna lie and say that I didn't expect someone to ask me why, but it's not like I was trying to start some thread drift.

It doesn't matter. It's over. I've spoke my mind.

Haha... he said "pontificating". I predict an NC victory and lots of NC in the ca$h.

i put the negative in quotes for a reason, obviously it was missed. but saying things like "gimic" and calling into question the fairness of OB when talking about the course could easily be construed as negative by some.

jojo, haney, TThumber mulleTT - top 10

jojo, haney, TThumber mulleTT - top 10



My thoughts exactly. Werd.

Don't worry, MTL, there are others who completely agree with you about blatantly artificial aspects on a disc golf course.

Lets get back to what the thread was named.

I like McCray also, he let one slip earilier this year and that won't happen again. I am not a GW boy but I also like Kid, he is solid, and 4 rounds of solid golf can win this tournament. The key in my mind is for the USDGC is how determined Mr. Climo is to WIN this one.

Peace to all, time to go to league :D

Don't worry, MTL, there are others who completely agree with you about blatantly artificial aspects on a disc golf course.



FORE sure! :D

I learned at a tournament I ran this year that matter what I do people will complain and look at me negatively. So I don't even care anymore. I am super close to not helping any more tournaments just to prove what a valuable assest to the sport and the area I am.





WOW

It is all good Boomer, just givin you a hard Time, Had to increase my Post Count somehow.

I will not be in Rock Hill this year at all, unless something happens.....



Thank God.



please refrain from making comments like this. It only further proves most of my points about you.



This past weekend (which serves as just a microcosm of every tournament you attend) proves most of the points that everyone has about you.

This isn't just a personal opinion MTL...it is starting to become more of a fact. People are grouping you with other players like Cam Todd and Brad Hammock...and I think you know it isn't because of your game.

Sorry to driftizzle again.

USDGC - Tweebie. 2 Supertours in a row...It's TTime.

This isn't just a personal opinion MTL...it is starting to become more of a fact. People are grouping you with other players like Cam Todd and Brad Hammock...and I think you know it isn't because of your game.



I admit my imperfections, always have, always will. You on the other hand continue to make drug references during PDGA rounds and continue to slow down the growth of this sport while keeping your cockiness about who you think you are.

Sucks you aren't playing in Charlotte. Good luck at getting ready for the USDGC. No matter what, I will always root for my fellow North Carolinians. I am mature enough to root on my fellow competitor and not try to work another golfer like you did to someone (not me) this weekend. This was not my opinion, I asked the person about this and he flat out agreed with me. I hope you can take that same professionalism and comments about your addiction to USDGC.

You know what, that was a little over the top. I apologize. However I will leave it up there b/c I don't hide behind what I say.

Anyway.....

One time someone got mad at me in my group b/c I was playing good and didn't talk. One time I was having a horrible round and didn't get angry and just laughed most of the round. I was then told that it got old hearing me laugh. One time I went off and kept talking to myself. I was told it was distracting to the other players to do that. One time I just stepped up and threw my shots and sat down. I was accussed that round of bringing the group down b/c I wasn't caring. One time I asked guys in my group questions about non disc golf things and talked about non disc golf things and was accussed of trying to work the people in my group.

It's a never ending cycle.

Yes, I will admit that this weekend during the third round I was not on my best behaivor. When you tell yourself you need this putt to get going and you pure it and cuts through, it is frustrating, however no excuse for me getting angry.

I'm just gonna do my own thing from now on. I'm not gonna let peoples inability to play with someone who doesn't smile after a bad break change the way I feel when I get a bad break. My approach will be different, but I will always feel the same.

Ricky Bobby since his name wasn't on the first page list is gonna woop dat A.. Have a nice day!

This isn't just a personal opinion MTL...it is starting to become more of a fact. People are grouping you with other players like Cam Todd and Brad Hammock...and I think you know it isn't because of your game.



I admit my imperfections, always have, always will. You on the other hand continue to make drug references during PDGA rounds and continue to slow down the growth of this sport while keeping your cockiness about who you think you are.
<font color="red"> Is speaking on a subject or saying the word marijuana against some PDGA rule? </font>

Sucks you aren't playing in Charlotte. Good luck at getting ready for the USDGC. No matter what, I will always root for my fellow North Carolinians. I am mature enough to root on my fellow competitor and not try to work another golfer like you did to someone (not me) this weekend. <font color="red"> WHO??? I have never intentionally worked another person during a tournament round in my life, nor will I ever. I respect others and competition. Please send me a PM so I can personally resolve this with the person if there was something I did that they construed as me working them.</font>

This was not my opinion, I asked the person about this and he flat out agreed with me. I hope you can take that same professionalism and comments about your addiction to USDGC.



Seriously. I am not trying to be mean. Get some professional help for your self-control issues. I bet you could get disc golfers in the area that have to endure you round after round to help with any expenses.

My USDGC Prediction - a little more quiet than a normal Carolina round.

For NC I'm predicting Hofmann in 14th, Crackin in 11th (is he playing? I have no idea who's even in this thing), Mike JO in 8th, Haney in 6th, Schweb in 4th. Love to see one of you prove me wrong and win it though :) Tough to not give Kenny and Barry their well deserved props. I'll let them fill in some of the spaces in the top 10.

Seriously. I am not trying to be mean. Get some professional help for your self-control issues.



Seriously. I am not trying to be mean. Get some professional help for your drug addiction.

Seriously. I am not trying to be mean. Get some professional help for your selfishness.

And no, making drug references during PDGA rounds is not against the rule, however using illegal substances within a park where it is illegal after the rounds and before the rounds are.

However refering to it when you have someone in the group who does not play disc golf following you like we did Sunday is very rude and makes the sport look horrible. I'm not trying to say my actions were a great representation either. I'm not saying I should be the poster boy for disc golf b/c I do not use drugs. All I am saying is instead of criticizing others, take a long hard deep look at urself. That is if you can remember to do so. Keep on living off the government while you are on the road. Nice noble job you got there.

And I will choose not to tell you who you worked. I want you think REAL hard about that third round and something you may have said that you should never say (not the drug comment). Oh, what is that? You can't? That's right, you're perfect.

i love you guys

3 NC top 10

: ) :

Someone get JD Ramirez there. He qualified at Texas States. He got 15th at worlds this year and just won his first A-tier event against Barry Shultz (even with a two stroke penalty) He is also now sponsored by Innova. web page (http://innovadiscs.com/team/jd.html)

He also beat me by two this weekend. That has to do something for him right? :D

MTL, I agrree and disagree, referring to drugs I think is a courtesy violation to the other golfers in the tournament. It also is not the impression we want to leave for these kind folks whom allow us to participate in thier park.-2 stroke penalty
Mini Thumber

Scooter,
Something :D

Peace :)

I'll not forget that you omitted me in your predictions. Stupid miTTenZZ. I am ailing, but I am not dead, (not yet anyway). By the way, at church last week we had a 30's roadster on stage. That was pretty cool. (yes this on topic) The license plate was from the state of Wisconsin !! I thought it might be an omen or something.

they were talking top 5, not 85, Stan. :)

stan has had a tough year and I know that I am proud that he is representing the state I live in. Good luck out there and we'll see ya in Charlotte!

Shame on you Matt. miTTenZZ was starting at 14th and working his way down. He should be able to count to 85. Thats where he should have started !!!! :D

You know, guys, there is a PM button feature. It's really fantastic...

As for the actual thread content, I'm puttin' my bettin' dollars on the MOSE! It's his year.

Oh, what is that? You can't? That's right, you're perfect.



You said it, not me...but thanks.

Whoever you are, I do know about the PM, but thanks for caring enough about us to tell us about it.

Stan,
Fats (miTTenZZ brother), may very well be referring to the drama of the MTL/BS dialogues. So with that said, settle down and go make Hornets Nest even better! :D
PP

Oh BTW,,,,,,Jo-Jo, Schwebby and Haney in the top 5!!!!!!!!

One of them will win it!!!!!!!!!!!

So far Climo lead's the poll with 52% of the voting !

[/QUOTE] I'm done, maybe with everything. Who knows.

[/QUOTE]

What a shame the above Quote would be. To loss anyone in this great sport that will step up and help out saddings me. _MTL_ may have only help my club and I out once. But The help ways need, We needed more. Not enough people step up. and to loss one is a sad thing.

You will be missed at RockHill. I know a 10 & 11 year old that will be sad not being able to see you play there. The NC Jr champs are your bigest fans.

please reconsider

Signed a grateful fan

I'm done, maybe with everything. Who knows.

[/QUOTE]

What a shame the above Quote would be. To loss anyone in this great sport that will step up and help out saddings me. _MTL_ may have only help my club and I out once. But The help ways need, We needed more. Not enough people step up. and to loss one is a sad thing.

You will be missed at RockHill. I know a 10 & 11 year old that will be sad not being able to see you play there. The NC Jr champs are your bigest fans.

please reconsider

Signed a grateful fan

[/QUOTE]

lorelei says it's ok if robert wants to bail :eek:


she says her dad will just smack sense back into him at the hawk hollow open at the end of the month

:D

I appreciate it Wyatt. However, even if I wanted to play in Rock Hill, I didn't qualify, so wouldn't be able to compete.

I'm not going to let the words feelings or thoughts of others slow me down in doing what I love to do - I love playing disc golf, I love promoting disc golf and love most of the people in disc golf. Those who can't see that need to look at themselves and ask them why not.

I can't only win over all of the under 12 fan base, can I? :D

Thanks back too you. I think the problem may be it's not cool to Be a _MTL_ fan yet. some day the others will come out of the closet Like I did.

If you love sport, some day you will love _MTL_.

TThink Swebby gets it done. Everywhere ive been this year hes there holdn da trophy talkn bout TTrim!!! Rruuff!!! :p its better 2burnout than fade away!!!

Staniel Staniel Staniel...you're far from washed up and you've got mad game left in ya. I predict you finish between 25-35 at this years event. :)

Now thats what I wanted to hear !! Even if you predicted a 100th place finish, I just wanted to be remembered. I have a very fragile psychie you know. ;)

You might be like Sampson, if your hair is as big as it was last year, you might win. If you cut it off, you might not finish in the top 100!

No hair now and a big belly. All the weight I had lost over the year went back on in 6 weeks while I was on high dosages of Prednisone. In all my Northern California years I never had a case of the munchies like Prednisone lays on you. 35 pounds in 6 weeks. I went from the scrawny beach kid to something akin to George Foreman in no time. So, you might not recognize me !!!!

I don't know Wyatt, were pretty BIG fans of the hairy dude here in Sanford also. By MTL Not qualifying for USDG shows how tough the competition. I see a Ring coming back to NC to be honest with you. If MTL played any of the other regions, he would have indeed qualified. This sport needs players and TD.s,and TD helpers like MTL, and this player appreciates all he does!. MOJO, learn from MTL, you can do it

WORD
Mini Thumber

So Fats, I hear you are miTTenZZ bro. HOWDY. Now on to the theme of this thread, I played with Deano Tannock yesterday. I hate him worse than hippies. I am thinking that he is a strong contender. He seems to throw a 400' hyzer with seemingly no effort, and accurately. He throws Rocs as far as I can throw a driver. (hate hate hate and envy envy envy) He may be a Master, and I may have seen the Wisconsin lisence plate at church, but if I were to bet on a dark horse, my money would be on Dean.

Rocky...I appreciate anyone that helps. I, too, have helped at several tournaments. In fact, at Sneaky Pete I missed the entire distance comp. to help Grasse with the payouts. But when I do these kind of things, I don't need to be recognized, nor do I want to be. MTL's actions on the course are nothing that I would ever want to learn from, or any of my 12-year old fans to copy. Being away from NC for a little while just helped me realize that he is one of a kind.

I won't speak on this anymore on this thread. Sorry, just wanted to answer someone that I do respect.

Truce Tizzle.

Glad to hear of your contributions, didn't know, however I have seen MTL, and another gent whom I do not know but he always wears red, help on many occasions. MTL is looking out for the best interest of this sport. You guy's shake, and HUG. Let's watch the ring come to NC

Another WORD

The "other guy in red" is Mike Norris who I feel undoubtably does a HUGE amount of work for disc golf events. Mike, in my opinion is more of the model we should strive for in the idea of tournament help. He does it because he cares about the events going well.

That was me giving props to Mike Norris, not detracting from ANYONE who has ever even uttered the words, "How can I help?" at an event. I am not getting in this battle.

As far as an USDGC prediction, SchweBB has been on a streak lately and I want to see it continue.

The "other guy in red" is Mike Norris who I feel undoubtably does a HUGE amount of work for disc golf events. Mike, in my opinion is more of the model we should strive for in the idea of tournament help. He does it because he cares about the events going well.




Amen.

Mike Norris is a great assest to disc golf and to the USDGC. Hopefully now the country and world of disc golf can see how lucky we are here in NC at every single tournament!

I will be there on Friday to watch the end of the day and also be there on Saturday. I hope to see a lot of folks I havent in a while. Good luck all of NC. Also I wll gladly be taking registrations for the event in NC the weekend after the USDGC. :cool:

Last year I made a small friendly bet with one of Disc Golf’s LONGtime greatest on who would win at the USDGC. I took Feldberg he took Climo, I won. At World’s this year I made the same bet, same person. I lost and will square up at the 06’ USDGC. This year at the USDGC I will try to work the same bet BUT will put Jenkins or Feldberg against Climo or Schultz. I think Avery truly has the game to take the victory on the Winthrop course and claim the title, but would also be stoked to see Dave become a 2 time Champion and show the world his continued consistency. Longshot to win, and my vote for rookie of the year (and young gun of the year) Nate Sexton.
Team Oregon has my prediction!
Good luck to ALL competitors! Come see me in the player’s hospitality area for some food!

He has already had his rookie season.......

Look for Coda Hatfield in the top 5....he has been playing very good lately.

What about scoring predictions for the top 8 scores on Monday?? What scores qualified last year??

BIGrock, You just made it hard for me to predict a win. I would love to see the ring come to NC. I Had the honor of taking pictures for a ript tournament last year on spectator day that Brian "Schweb" Schweberger won, "Most likly he don't remember me" But, what can I say, he a great Guy, I wish him all the luck, But it's had not to pull for the CHAMP.

As A side note that is when Andrew and first meat _MTL_. Both He and Schweb where great to Andrew. They Talked to him like Grow up about Disc golf, and encourged him keep play no matter what. These two where First real Pro's Andrew ever talked too, For that reason I will also admare these two Guys. Mabe it's a father thing Andrew had been Playing only 6 months at the time of the USPDGA Championship last year. Look at Andrew now.

There were 2 players at - 5 under par and the last spot was -1 if I remember .

MTL...I like to play rounds with you...I like a little cookiness to distract me and help me remember that it is a game we play because we enjoy the ups as well as downs... Btw, if you look for things that bother you during tournament play, you will find them...I think your reputation is based on after round stories, and the people who havent played with you are on radar duty, looking for their own. So give them stories MTL...just not ones where you can be stroked. LOL...i am serious though...First round at Jo's Nest: MTL, Stan, Sjur and swede. Fine group for me....

MTL...I like to play rounds with you...I like a little cookiness to distract me and help me remember that it is a game we play because we enjoy the ups as well as downs... Btw, if you look for things that bother you during tournament play, you will find them...I think your reputation is based on after round stories, and the people who havent played with you are on radar duty, looking for their own. So give them stories MTL...just not ones where you can be stroked. LOL...i am serious though...First round at Jo's Nest: MTL, Stan, Sjur and swede. Fine group for me....

MTL...I like to play rounds with you...I like a little cookiness to distract me and help me remember that it is a game we play because we enjoy the ups as well as downs... Btw, if you look for things that bother you during tournament play, you will find them...I think your reputation is based on after round stories, and the people who havent played with you are on radar duty, looking for their own. So give them stories MTL...just not ones where you can be stroked. LOL...i am serious though...First round at Jo's Nest: MTL, Stan, Sjur and swede. Fine group for me....

MTL...I like to play rounds with you...I like a little cookiness to distract me and help me remember that it is a game we play because we enjoy the ups as well as downs... Btw, if you look for things that bother you during tournament play, you will find them...I think your reputation is based on after round stories, and the people who havent played with you are on radar duty, looking for their own. So give them stories MTL...just not ones where you can be stroked. LOL...i am serious though...First round at Jo's Nest: MTL, Stan, Sjur and swede. Fine group for me....

MTL...I like to play rounds with you...I like a little cookiness to distract me and help me remember that it is a game we play because we enjoy the ups as well as downs... Btw, if you look for things that bother you during tournament play, you will find them...I think your reputation is based on after round stories, and the people who havent played with you are on radar duty, looking for their own. So give them stories MTL...just not ones where you can be stroked. LOL...i am serious though...First round at Jo's Nest: MTL, Stan, Sjur and swede. Fine group for me....

nice quintuple post.

Just for the record (since this phrase is becoming popular), I have never been stroked for a single thing in a tournament.

wAY TO STAY IN BOUNDS :D

nice literal interpretation

SPRAGUE top card in the finals.

I had the chance to bunk up with sprauge in athens this year, what a good guy. Good golfer too, he is soooo level headed. I love watching him switch up lefty/righty.

No disc-respect to any other golfer,but my prediction is Brian Skinner you better watch out for him ,he will sneak up on ya..
remember he shot the highest rated round EVER 1117.He is also ZONED to the max for this tourney.Plus he will have the caddie in the world Zilla

best caddie :D

Skinner is a stud.

I still think Coda is going to tear it up...Mike Moser could take it also!

I have this feeling, that the ring is coming to tobacco road.

FriZZaks :p

FriZZaks :p



What, are the 6 of you gonna gang up and take out a few of the big wigs before the tourney?

Nothin' but love, boys. I love the FriZZaks!

What about scoring predictions for the top 8 scores on Monday?? What scores qualified last year??

I think a 68 will get in.

Hey champ. anybody I know trying to qualify Mon?

Spotted an Anthon, Rico, Sprague, Schultz, and Gerling out on the course today. Tomorrow, I assume a lot more will experience the course.

BIGrock, You just made it hard for me to predict a win. I would love to see the ring come to NC. I Had the honor of taking pictures for a ript tournament last year on spectator day that Brian "Schweb" Schweberger won, "Most likly he don't remember me" But, what can I say, he a great Guy, I wish him all the luck, But it's had not to pull for the CHAMP.

>>>Insert several beers here.... "Timmy made me do it!"

As A side note that is when Andrew and first meat _MTL_. Both He and Schweb where great to Andrew. They Talked to him like Grow up about Disc golf, and encourged him keep play no matter what. These two where First real Pro's Andrew ever talked too, For that reason I will also admare these two Guys. Mabe it's a father thing Andrew had been Playing only 6 months at the time of the USPDGA Championship last year. Look at Andrew now.

>>>Insert several beers here.... "Timmy made me do it!"

.





"you know by now to keep an eye on Timmy"

Hey champ. anybody I know trying to qualify Mon?



It would be nice to see a list of those trying to Qualify on Monday.

There is no pre registration for qualifying. It's just show up and try.

I know that Craig Leyva (who was on the lead card in the final round the year of Kenny and Barry's playoff), Justin Jernigan and Larry Leonard will all be out trying to grab a spot.

Look for Tom Kim and I believe J to the G too!

i believe a jimmy cuTTer will be trying to git a bid as well

and naBS

I will be out there on Sunday to prep, and take my spot in the Championship on Monday.

I'm not trying to be cocky(so ease up on slamming me please?) I have a very confident attitude, which every golfer should have in this type of situation.

good luck to you my brother of another mother

I'm very surpirsed some people who are trying to qualify are not playing the Charlotte Open - a spot is given away there!

Best of luck On Monday.

MTL, they're reserving that spot for you. Go For it bro

Haha, If I play good enough to beat the field at the Charlotte Open who are not already qualified, then not only when I have played great golf, but I'll finish high in the cash. However, I will decline the spot if that opportunity comes.

Good Luck at C Open

As with Leyva, I too will be qualifying on Monday. Lefties rule! Confidence is the only way to go at this point.

Good Luck at C Open



thanks big rock, like usual, having fun is my main focus. Gonna be tough not to on such a great course and with such a great tournament!

I forsee at least one spot going to a Knoxville native.....maybe two. Kris KO Orrick is playin' great golf lately and I know he wants redemption for last year: and BigMan Will Schusterick has already told his teachers he's going to be out all week. Only 14 years old, but can play with anyone. Represent fellas. We'll see ya on Saturday for the finals.

Gonna be tough not to on such a great course and with such a great tournament!



The Hornets Nest is probably my most favorite course EVER to play, 2nd only to BlackHawk...there are some totally SICK holes at the nest...have fun everybody and good luck, I wish I was playing.

Good luck Okies:

CP
Kev
Coda
Jared Pennington
Jose Mendoza
Joe Rotan

Arkie:

Kelly Watson

ZZ top 20 even better wounldn't surpirse me at all

been thinking about this and i believe that for a second year in a row we will have a new champ. names i believe will be up there are.

Ricky Bobby
Haney
Martin
Anthon
Doss
Skinner
Moser
JJ
Mikejo
And my Darkhorse.... to win it all is.........

Jussi Meresmaa

Please take this to heart :)

1. Schultz
2. Schwebegerger
3. Climo
4. Doss
5. Anthon

14? Eric McCabe 14th or higher
Kevin Babbbit - 19th, within 4 strokes of McCabe

GO KANSAS

Al Sugar Schack is gonna be my sleeper i also think Stevie Rico will be in the top 5 also followed by the usual suspects Doss,Schultz,Climo,Feldberg, and The best lefty in the world Scott Martin.

Another lefty (and my darkhorse pick)...Dave Hemmeline...representing KC (and his home State of Texas!)! :cool: He can BOMB! Putts with a Bulldog, too!

When will the Qualifiers be listed? Does any body know?

anyone know how Jeff Davis qualified? just curious

Cmon people..We may be the ZZ...but dont sleep on us.

It may be time for Steve Rico to break through and get a major. Also as far as darkhorses I will take Haney and Schweb, I think they are ready to take the last step into greatness. And you know what? Could not happen to better guys.

My TX buddy (now transplanted in GA) CRAIG LEYVA has the lowest score thus far...... 64 ........ 10 strokes better than 2nd place.

Good luck goes out to Tim Barr, from Kingsport,TN. He missed the cut last year by 1 measey stroke.

Compliments of the Charlotte Disc Golf Club, here are live updates (http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc/monday_qualifiers.htm) for the Monday Qualifiers.

c'mon tom kim...let's get in there...

c'mon tom kim...let's get in there...

what is the cut off for qualifying? ty

top 8 regardless of score get in

I'll guess it will be around 67 or 68

C'Moooooooooooooon TK! And team Red as well, or TT, or whatever you call yourselves these days. May LCJ become FQJ (first qualifying Johnson)

It may be time for Steve Rico to break through and get a major. Also as far as darkhorses I will take Haney and Schweb, I think they are ready to take the last step into greatness. And you know what? Could not happen to better guys.



he already won a major
http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5506#Open

side track.....any homie classic results? just the winners HOLLA

TThanks marchano... TTwo in the top 4, watch out for IJAR

TTrim

Nice Jimmi and BS

side track.....any homie classic results? just the winners HOLLA



Dustin Fee got Adv.
I left early

I'm very surpirsed some people who are trying to qualify are not playing the Charlotte Open - a spot is given away there!



SURPIRSE SURPIRSE!!!

less Evan more Spelln

I suck.

I would hardly call losing in a playoff for the USDGC sucking.

Did Tim get to play two shots in the playoff? He did shoot two 70's. I could see arguments and reasons why he should be able to and why he shouldn't be able to.....

Just like making two putts in a putting contest where each shot you makes gets you an attemp in the CTP for the basket right? Man I hate those contests. :D

Cmon people..We may be the ZZ...but dont sleep on us.



Oh we know you boys are going to be in the mix but Im going to go out on a limb here and say that im going to CASH!!!

Thats right boyz and girlz you heard it here first..........Steve Millz is going to cash in his 1st trip to the USDGC!!!

Oh and Im taking all bets on me cashing or not as well so if you want to lay some money down just let me know!!!

Lol, wow, how much are you willing to bet?

The question is what are YOU willing to bet???

Millz, dont think about the yellow rope. at all, the whole week.

then u might cash.

This is what i predict for the pimp.

71,69,72,70

Finish somewhere around 85th.

Which by the way steve would be respectable for your first USDGC.

no way.

75, 73, 77, 70

He'll never get under par.

uh, hmmmm, uh, wow

SURPIRSE SURPIRSE!!!




less Evan more Spelln



check out tizzle's "spellin"... '



I'm very surpirsed some people who are trying to qualify are not playing the Charlotte Open - a spot is given away there!

maybe mills will be closer than at the charlotte open :o

Millz has sick game it is just whether or not he can turn it on.
but i think he will cash tear it up bro
Michigan is gonna bring the Title home good luck fella's.

at least mine rhymes

no way.

75, 73, 77, 70

He'll never get under par.



Your just upset because you didnt qualify!!!

Dont hate the playa hate the game!!!

Oh and thanks for the support from MI..........I tee off at 808 so watch for my score to be posted around noon!!! Im going for a 67 tomorrow and hopefully no OB strokes!!!

The question is what are YOU willing to bet???



I got $100 you don't cash. nothing against you, i just have confidence that no one wants to get beat by you.

The question is what are YOU willing to bet???



I got $100 you don't cash. nothing against you, i just have confidence that no one wants to get beat by you.





You must be an Idiot to bet me 100 that I dont cash but hey Im willing to take that bet!!!

The question is what are YOU willing to bet???



I got $100 you don't cash. nothing against you, i just have confidence that no one wants to get beat by you.





You must be an Idiot to bet me 100 that I dont cash but hey Im willing to take that bet!!!




Done.

is geTTing people to bet against you the only way you can motivate yourself to play well? its geTTing old...

he bet me 10 bux this past weekend and we see how good he played there....

i was referring more to when he opens dialogue with everyone on the thread to bet against him, ie - USADGC, Memorial, USDGC

well, in his defense, it has worked so far

thus
is geTTing people to bet against you the only way you can motivate yourself to play well?

yeah yeah yeah

not lookinf good for disc pimp so far. OUCH

Hmmm... from page 2....
xterramatt

i'll go crazy with my pick for the year. Josh Anthon.



:D

100 bux-idiot 0 bux- pimp nice! :D

come on jimi

don't count steve out yet

a couple good rounds in the 60's and he might sneek

hey nice flick

thats what I'm saying on the other thread

Anthon

not lookinf good for disc pimp so far. OUCH


Looks like disc pimp has been discpimp slapped!

jus workn him lil bit berdman. he made da bet not me. Rruff!! nice job at da charlotte open. i played mountain jam instead.

The yellow ropes are a WHOLE different ballgame. The playing field changes drastically when the potential to go out of bounds lurks on nearly every shot.