evandmckee
Sep 27 2006, 10:49 AM
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OK I knew modifications would be nessessary as we got the ball rolling for this series.The one thing I didn't take into consideration was the fact that my PAR PLUS 10 STROKES for each event missed was based on two rounds of 18...

I'm going to have to modify this formula(And also 9 hole playoffs don't count)The formula will consist of PAR PLUS 5 STROKES PER ROUND MISSED.


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Will this modification be just for the five remaining series qualifiers, or are you making it retroactive?

jeffash
Sep 27 2006, 11:06 AM
So... anyone can vote in this poll? Even people who aren't from Arkansas?
Nice representative sample... :D

sschumacher
Sep 27 2006, 11:56 AM
Sorry. I saw a chance to vote on something that has nothing to do with me and I did it. :(.....I couldn't help myself.

God bless Arkansas for allowing me the freedom to vote!!! :)

Now....what was the question? :confused:

superd
Sep 27 2006, 12:30 PM
my votes are in.

evandmckee
Sep 27 2006, 02:07 PM
So... anyone can vote in this poll? Even people who aren't from Arkansas?
Nice representative sample... :D



You are probably right... no options on who can vote :confused:

been lookin for something "maybe" worth putting a poll up :D

bad thing is I typed the flyer (per instructions and request) and I took it as 10 strokes per round but on re-reading it I see its 10 strokes per tourney - that's better than I shoot anyway, maybe I can quit playin tourneys now, worm into 8th and have the round of my life on July 9th

besides, the board's gettin' boring why miss this opportunity ;)

http://www.wormsrus.co.nz/canoworms.jpg

twoputtok
Sep 27 2006, 05:01 PM
Cans you say
http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/snafu/frontpage.jpg

sschumacher
Sep 27 2006, 05:05 PM
Hey???? That April 21st and 22nd tourney in Hot Springs is the same weekend as Chandlerstock???? :(

What is it???.....You guys don't love me no more?? :( :confused: :(

jeffash
Sep 27 2006, 05:16 PM
The one thing I didn't take into consideration was...




Hey???? That April 21st and 22nd tourney in Hot Springs is the same weekend as Chandlerstock???? :(

What is it???.....You guys don't love me no more?? :( :confused: :(



I wasn't going to say anything... :o

I caught enough "HOTB" for missing a series event and choosing to go to a "B" tier that had 200 players.

Do ya' think y'all could just reschedule Chandlerstock? ;)

evandmckee
Sep 27 2006, 06:24 PM
Hey???? That April 21st and 22nd tourney in Hot Springs is the same weekend as Chandlerstock???? :(

What is it???.....You guys don't love me no more?? :( :confused: :(



wow! That's Little Rock's people - Kittrell or Reynolds? :confused:

I don't know, I really want to go to Chandlerstock!!

Maybe while things are being changed we can get em' to change them dates also :Dor even better yet scores count for Chandlerstock + 10 strokes of course :D

Can of.....
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/967735/2/istockphoto_967735_doggie_poo_trash_can.jpg

In all seriousness I do want to see this series be successful, if it needs to be modified to do that - great, BUT if the modifications create worst problems?? I guess the poll might be something to take into consideration. (IMO)

jeffash
Sep 27 2006, 07:14 PM
Pitch posted this on 8/31/06-


This idea bounced off alot of people,Ganzel,Duvall,Kittrell,LaMastus,Reynolds,Ed dy,Myself.Years of experience were taken into consideration...

This IS set in stone...

Chances are that par plus 10 strokes won't kill you that badly...

Oh and as I also stated before.I will be attending them all.Maybe i've P Teeved some of you enough to just try and beat me out of that spot.I won't be going on a crap shoot.I'll be earning this one.



Pitch posted this on 9/5/06


I've decided to make Alma Greens a one day event to make it equal, 3 one day events and 3 two day events.ALL PDGA SANCTIONED(4 two day events seemed a little too much)...

Top overall will be decided by scores from all events.Miss an event and Par Plus 10 strokes will be added to your overall score.



Pitch posted this on 9/23/06 (a week after the first event of the series started)


OK I knew modifications would be nessessary as we got the ball rolling for this series.The one thing I didn't take into consideration was the fact that my PAR PLUS 10 STROKES for each event missed was based on two rounds of 18.I've realized that 3 of the series events are two days and could run 3 or 4 rounds of golf and the 1 day C Tiers will probably be only 2 of 18.(See where i'm going?)Par Plus 10 on a two round basis is 5 per 18.I'm going to have to modify this formula(And also 9 hole playoffs don't count)The formula will consist of PAR PLUS 5 STROKES PER ROUND MISSED.(That doesn't include DNF's)Unless of course it was a life threatning situation.I hope those of you involved can see the reasoning for this modification.



It�s clear that Pitch had taken this into consideration before the series started on September 16, 2006.

The poll results- either way they go- should have no bearing on what Pitch decides to do.

jeffash
Sep 27 2006, 07:27 PM
Unofficial:
Kyle McClure 147
Dasun Keylor 152
Tommy Eddy 154
Tom Pitchford 154
Kelly Watson 157
Kelly Ganzel 161
Collen Furrow 162
Zach Asbury 163
Larry Quinones 166
Darrell Bailey 168
Barney Davis 170
Chris Pleis 171

keldog
Sep 27 2006, 09:28 PM
I say we give it to the guy that gets to go this year ;).That way he can better his score from the year before /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif.Take all the money already raised(HOTB) and give it to the city .There done deal :Djust my .02 cents.
Pitch if they don't come STOKE the crap-out of them :eek:,I like the idea,5 every round if you don't show.If they don't like it ,then show-up.TwoFingerSlinger don't go and you mite make it. :D

3902
Sep 27 2006, 09:44 PM
Thanks to Evan for posting the poll.There's no need for it to continue.I just thought after HOTB that going by the total rounds would be a better plan.Par plus 10 as it was stated before (Per Event) stands.Anyone wanting to qualify will surely be shooting better than that anyway.AND if missing one or two events still allows someone a chance at being a contender so be it.I guess I should have been a little more in detail when first posting the flyer.It's OK.It'll still be a great way of sending someone to USDGC.Like I said before,Polls' over.Original plan continues.Sorry about Chandler.We are trying to strenghten Arkansas.More tourneys and participation in our area is needed.T Town you know there's no disrespect towards you.I'm just tryin to do a decent job.Oh and a special thanks to you Ash for posting the scores.Good job. ;)Watson,Nice try killer.You know we were probably posting at the same time(That's why i'm editing)Stroke the pants off em uh?10 is enough I suppose.We'll see who the really dedicated area players are.Those who choose to travel elsewhere and miss money by nearly 20 strokes usually have something to complain about.But of course it's probably the TD's fault.Thanks again Senior Ash for your concern.It's always a pleasure to give you something to complain about.Maybe you can enlighten us all some more on how things should be ran?

BrokenPutt
Sep 27 2006, 10:37 PM
Unofficial:
Kyle McClure 147
Dasun Keylor 152
Tommy Eddy 154
Tom Pitchford 154
Kelly Watson 157
Kelly Ganzel 161
Collen Furrow 162
Zach Asbury 163
Larry Quinones 166
Darrell Bailey 168
Barney Davis 170
Chris Pleis 171



Why am I not on this list?? Why is Evan not on this list? Come on everyone knows it is really a battle between us for the spot! No one else should even try! :D

twoputtok
Sep 27 2006, 10:43 PM
I'm not on the list either?

3902
Sep 27 2006, 10:45 PM
Oh i'm sorry.I didn't make this list.I'll be sure to place all the AR people on the wafda web site.(We know you two are just bagging) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

jeffash
Sep 28 2006, 12:10 AM
Pitch if they don't come STOKE the crap-out of them :eek:



Why not just say that every course is a par 72.
That'll take care of it.

;) :p :D

BrokenPutt
Sep 28 2006, 01:01 AM
How much money is HOTB contirbuting? How much did the 5% come to?

superd
Sep 28 2006, 01:22 AM
I know wafda donated from their own funds 200 bucks. now if i am right, which dosen't happen to often, if the 5% was less than the 200 bucks. the 200 bucks stands. I don't know what the 5% of the tournament was thats not my department in wafda. that will need to be answered by someone that has a clue. and everybody knows i have no clue. :o:p

jeffash
Sep 28 2006, 07:51 AM
Those who choose to travel elsewhere and miss money by nearly 20 strokes usually have something to complain about.But of course it's probably the TD's fault.Thanks again Senior Ash for your concern.It's always a pleasure to give you something to complain about.Maybe you can enlighten us all some more on how things should be ran?



What is your problem(s)?
You wanna' keep this going?
I can keep running you through the dirt also.
I thought we had an agreement? Another broken promise.
All I did was ask if the change was going to be retroactive.
When you replied like you did, I just pointed out things you had already posted.
You made the right decision to leave it as it was when the series started.
Why couldn't you just leave it at that?

3902
Sep 28 2006, 08:54 AM
Well? Why do you post all those things(Stated in posts earlier)that i've made mention of?You don't even play in AR anymore.My problem?Your at it again.And in this situation it's not even anything your involved with.It's not what you said,It's how you said it.It's not a suggestion,It's a shot.I'm just simply firing back.Your the one blowing it here.You could be involved.Matter of fact,You could even be the one going.

evandmckee
Sep 28 2006, 09:58 AM
Unofficial:
Kyle McClure 147
Dasun Keylor 152
Tommy Eddy 154
Tom Pitchford 154
Kelly Watson 157
Kelly Ganzel 161
Collen Furrow 162
Zach Asbury 163
Larry Quinones 166
Darrell Bailey 168
Barney Davis 170
Chris Pleis 171



Why am I not on this list?? Why is Evan not on this list? Come on everyone knows it is really a battle between us for the spot! No one else should even try! :D



The above list must be the stragglers that might make it, you know the up & comers... Jason & I are a given, Willie also, we just don't want to intimidate all of the above by our names being included also :p

omegaputt
Sep 28 2006, 11:02 AM
You guys in ARK sound like a bunch of F U CKIN WOMEN

twoputtok
Sep 28 2006, 11:05 AM
DING! DING! DING! DING! :D

We have a winner. :D

jeffash
Sep 28 2006, 11:21 AM
I think you spelled weiner (http://www.weinerdograces.com/) wrong.

twoputtok
Sep 28 2006, 11:23 AM
Nope, weiner doesnt have a "J" or a "T" in it. ;)

sschumacher
Sep 28 2006, 11:48 AM
Screw the USDGA. :p

Why play Little Rock when you can play.....

Furdog's Mountain!!!! :cool:

http://www.peakware.com/photos/80a.jpg

twoputtok
Sep 28 2006, 12:28 PM
Hey, quit trying to con these guys. :mad:

I guess I will have to enlighten them to the truth about FurDog's mountain. :o
http://www.michna.com/kenya2003/image/p1030437.jpg

sschumacher
Sep 28 2006, 12:44 PM
Seeing how your discs seem to end up in piles like that, I'll assume for now that you're more than qualified to make that statement. :p

evandmckee
Sep 28 2006, 01:46 PM
hey twoputt you left 1 of your bed toys at Pitch's - he'll keep it warm and safe for you :p

http://www.elmundoformen.com/catalog/images/3920007_black_small.jpg

evandmckee
Sep 28 2006, 01:52 PM
Dang twoputt, you left another one, how many do you have :o

http://funideas.com/images/products/adults/boinkingsheep.jpg

3902
Sep 28 2006, 03:10 PM
Yeah and it sucks doesn't it Jason to have all these AR women taking your money. We are still looking for donations,Interested?Call the Slinger,He'd be glad to handle it.

omegaputt
Sep 28 2006, 06:33 PM
I already donated to your USDGC thing. I donated at HOTB.

I hope you use my donation well. :D

jeffash
Sep 28 2006, 11:41 PM
Well? Why do you post all those things(Stated in posts earlier)that i've made mention of?

<font color="blue">I did that to remind you of what you had previously posted. As the Arkansas PDGA State Coordinator, you are accountable to your constituents for the decisions that you make, and for the material you post on this board.</font>

You don't even play in AR anymore.

<font color="blue">I have become much more selective. Want me to elaborate on why?
Even if that were true- I am an Arkansas resident, and a PDGA member. I�m also one of only four PDGA members from Arkansas that voted in the last state coordinator election. I didn�t vote for you on the first ballot. There was a 4-way tie (one vote each) so the PDGA sent me another ballot and asked me to vote again. The person I voted for the first time did not want the position, so I decided to vote for you. I live here. I�m a member. I voted for you. </font>

My problem?Your at it again.And in this situation it's not even anything your involved with.

<font color="blue">Re-read the previous response if you still don�t get it</font>

It's not what you said,It's how you said it.It's not a suggestion,It's a shot.

<font color="blue">All I asked was if it was retroactive to HOTB. You said that it would be. </font>

I'm just simply firing back.

<font color="blue"> Uh-huh </font>

Your the one blowing it here.You could be involved.

<font color="blue">I am involved </font>

Matter of fact,You could even be the one going.

<font color="blue"> Not the way it's set up for 2007.</font>

3902
Sep 29 2006, 06:37 AM
Not the way it's set up for 2007.Why not? Too tough?Maybe I should have set it up on your home course and made everybody except you play with the opposite hand.(Coulda maybe had a chance then huh?) :DYou don't want to play cause your gonna get SMOKED!!! :eek: :D:p

jeffash
Sep 29 2006, 09:22 AM
That's exactly right.
You have burnt me too many times already.

accidentalROLLER
Sep 29 2006, 09:31 AM
Added Cash.

twoputtok
Sep 29 2006, 10:01 AM
Have you two officialy filed for divorce yet or is this relationship still in the legal separation mode? :o

3902
Sep 29 2006, 04:29 PM
Nope! I'm still fightin for the Golfers.Looks like i'm winning :D Added Cash!!!!(Oh and that's WINNING not WHINING) :D

evandmckee
Sep 29 2006, 06:10 PM
Golf's probably caused alot of divorces :( :confused:

jeffash
Oct 01 2006, 06:00 PM
WAFDA gave the 2007 USDGC Series a big boost by voting to contribute $200.00 to the "series account".

It's hard for me to tell, from what I've read, if it's really a $200.00 contributuon, or is it $200.00 minus the 5% HOTB contribution?

BTW- How much was the 5% HOTB contribution?

jeffash
Oct 01 2006, 06:43 PM
Maybe you can enlighten us all some more on how things should be ran?



In response to an earlier request for me to provide enlightenment:

1. The series should not be limited to PDGA members only-
If a non-member qualifies for the final 8, and wins the July 9, 2007 �Series Playoff�, they would still have time to join before the 2007 USDGC. They would have paid the $5.00 PDGA non-member fee for each of the series events they had attended in order to qualify, and we should encourage this type of player to participate in the series.

2. The �Series Playoff� should not be limited to 8 players-
Why just 8 players?
There is no reward for the order of finish of the playoff qualifiers- other than being on the 1st or 2nd card. All 8 players will play one 18-hole round. The winner of that one 18-hole round takes the trophy, the cash, and the 2007 USDGC bid.

Why not include every Arkansas player that plays all 6 of the series events into the playoff?
This will increase interest, and participation, as the series moves into 2007. Players that improve over the next several months will not be penalized for their early series scores, but will be rewarded for their continued participation by having a shot at winning the 2007 USDGC spot.

3902
Oct 01 2006, 11:23 PM
The Series is to stimulate PDGA growth and participation.In my opinion it has.Nobody is being penalized for not being a member.Remember,The USDGC is a sanctioned event as well.In my opinion nobody shooting for the spot would be without a PDGA membership.The caliber of golfer going for the series win obviously would be a member.The attention of the tourneys gone by and the tourneys in the future has stimulated membership growth no doubt.When I took on the responsability of the State Rep I simply wanted to see more Courses,Tourneys,and the Fellowship of the golfers i'd been without for so long.Guess what! It's happened.With even more possabilities in the future.A half dozen more courses are just within our reach.We could see a huge increase of PDGA as well as local club membership due to this.It seems to me that the only one complaining about this movement is the one who lacks commitment to his home state.Sure there will be growing pains,Sure there will be controversy.This has been going on with Disc Golf for as long as I can remember.But the bottom line is that there there are all these tourneys,courses,golfers etc to be dealing with now.Thanks to everyone again for your part in this.And thanks to you Ash once again for your part.Oh and HOTB? 10% of the tourney was close to $400.00.Half went to the Series(The better half) half to WAFDA.They voted to put (In Advance) $200.00 in to stimulate intrest in the tourney.Or shall I say "The State."IF the tournament had been worth more they would have kicked in the diffrence.Less? They would have stuck with the $200.00 contribution.

BrokenPutt
Oct 01 2006, 11:58 PM
Oh and HOTB? 10% of the tourney was close to $400.00.Half went to the Series(The better half) half to WAFDA.They voted to put (In Advance) $200.00 in to stimulate intrest in the tourney.Or shall I say "The State."IF the tournament had been worth more they would have kicked in the diffrence.Less? They would have stuck with the $200.00 contribution.



Does this mean that there is already $400.00 in for the USDGC bid?? If so that's pretty cool. :cool: Hear that Evan? One of us is gonna have a great trip! :D

3902
Oct 02 2006, 08:47 AM
What?No.5% is &200.00.Now lets see what the Eddy Bowl can do.I'd like to see at least another $100.00 from it.Hope you and Evan have a good time. ;)

superd
Oct 02 2006, 09:46 AM
don't count the super out yet. i've got my eye on that $$$$$
could i skip out on the tourney and use it to pay bills though :o

jeffash
Oct 02 2006, 01:53 PM
If I have interpreted this correctly, WAFDA put $200.00 into the "series account" and then HOTB paid WAFDA back the $200.00.
So, there really is no WAFDA contribution- just the $200.00 that represents HOTB's 5%.

Oct 02 2006, 05:47 PM
Pitch said on 9/05..

WAFDA has already thrown $200.00 into the overall winners purse.This is still based on the %5 coming from HOTB's tournament.SO were saying if HOTB is worth more than $4,000.We'll add more to the purse.If it's less? It stands at $200.00.This is just to get the ball rolling.


In other words I believe you're exactly right Jeff.

3902
Oct 02 2006, 06:09 PM
Yes there is a WAFDA contribution.5% of 3 tourneys ran by WAFDA is going into the series.Duh!You tryin to make us look bad or something?Typical,Just Typical.Don't you have something better to do Ash?Like practice for the next tourney you go outta state for and get waxed again. :D :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gifI'm tired of defending the"Integrity"of our association and myself.Besides,Your the only one it seems questioning these things.And I suppose i'm partly to blame.I answered them.Don't I feel like a dumazz. :D

sschumacher
Oct 02 2006, 06:24 PM
Play Chanderstock!!!!! :cool::) :cool::)

http://www.peakware.com/photos/80a.jpg

accidentalROLLER
Oct 02 2006, 06:38 PM
Yes there is a WAFDA contribution.5% of 3 tourneys ran by WAFDA is going into the series.Duh!You tryin to make us look bad or something?Typical,Just Typical.Don't you have something better to do Ash?Like practice for the next tourney you go outta state for and get waxed again. :D :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gifI'm tired of defending the"Integrity"of our association and myself.Besides,Your the only one it seems questioning these things.And I suppose i'm partly to blame.I answered them.Don't I feel like a dumazz. :D


Added Cash!

Actually, no added cash this time.

I think Ash is jealous of all the Added Cash!

jeffash
Oct 02 2006, 06:40 PM
Just tryin' to see through all the smoke and mirrors.
It's deceiving to say WAFDA contributed $200.00.
HOTB was committed to contributing 5%. I guess that came out to be $200.00. Excellent! But, that money came from the players and sponsors of HOTB- not from WAFDA.
I was getting ready to go try and be a Monday qualifier for the USDGC, but I'd have to miss the final round on Saturday if I did qualify because of the fact that a 2007 Arkansas State Qualifier is scheduled at the same time as the 2006 USDGC.
You are right about one thing- it is time somebody else asked all of these questions.
I'm getting bored...

3902
Oct 02 2006, 11:12 PM
So what your saying is that the 10% WAFDA was entitled to by running the tourney doesn't count.When someone collects 10% and then turns around and gives 5% back it's not a contribution.Hmmm?As for the USDGC and Clarksville running into each other,OOPS.I'm sure anybody shooting as well as Kelly will be OK.Maybe i'll petition everybody and modify his score due to his absence.Maybe not.I think i'll ask him personally.See what he wants.Since he isn't responsable for the mistake.This is alot of work by the way.Growing pains.No smoke and mirrors.Just someone tryin to create the illusion to satisfy their own justification.Too bad,Your right about the questions part.Yours are too easy to answer.Even easier to dismantle.OUCH!!!

evandmckee
Oct 02 2006, 11:23 PM
Play Chanderstock!!!!! :cool::) :cool::)

http://www.peakware.com/photos/80a.jpg



I think I will :D It'll give all the other "contenders" a chance to catch up, I think I've gotten like high score or something, I should be like 180 something, some of those other "contenders" only have like 140 something points, I'm such a given I'm not even on the list (don't want to intimidate em') :cool: see....

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Unofficial:
Kyle McClure 147
Dasun Keylor 152
Tommy Eddy 154
Tom Pitchford 154
Kelly Watson 157
Kelly Ganzel 161
Collen Furrow 162
Zach Asbury 163
Larry Quinones 166
Darrell Bailey 168
Barney Davis 170
Chris Pleis 171


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Oct 02 2006, 11:46 PM
So what your saying is that the 10% WAFDA was entitled to by running the tourney doesn't count.


Pitch, of course that money counts! But the way it was worded on announcement of WAFDA's $200 contribution (before HOTB) was fuzzy. It made it sound like WAFDA was donating $200 in addition to HOTB's money. After rereading your post I was able to tell what was meant. Jeff was not the only one who wasn't certain about what was intended.

3902
Oct 03 2006, 12:16 AM
That's understandable.BTW! wafda.org now has the scores and etc up on it's site.Sorry it took so long.Check it out.

accidentalROLLER
Oct 03 2006, 12:31 AM
You could've at least spelled my name right.

superd
Oct 03 2006, 12:59 AM
looks like i'm in 10th. 5 strokes away from being in 8th. everybody in ar needs to go play out of state tournaments while i play the state qualifiers. ;) that will be the angle me and the slinger needs to get on the ticket. :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

jeffash
Oct 03 2006, 08:35 AM
When someone collects 10% and then turns around and gives 5% back it's not a contribution.



Exactly what I'm saying. The HOTB 5% was a commitment- not a contribution.
We'd all love to see a contribution from WAFDA.
Semantics...

accidentalROLLER
Oct 03 2006, 09:14 AM
Fuzzy Added Cash!

3902
Oct 03 2006, 09:32 AM
Sorry about the spelling of da name.I figured i'd do that somewhere.And as for contributions?Some people do,Some don't.Who might they be? Hmmmmmmmmmm /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gifOh and I just got off the phone with Watson.He's cool.Actually he thinks 10 strokes is kinda tame.He'll make the top 8.

jeffash
Oct 03 2006, 11:01 AM
everybody in ar needs to go play out of state tournaments while i play the state qualifiers. ;) that will be the angle me and the slinger needs to get on the ticket. :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



I think Kyle and Daysun are planning on going to Rock Hill to support Keldog, and to see the final round of the USDGC. ;)

I had an idea that would get anyone who played in all six events "on the ticket" but there has been no response to it.
Or, to the poll. :p

accidentalROLLER
Oct 03 2006, 12:37 PM
Maybe you should run for State Coordinator, then you could do whatever you want with the picking the USDGC Qualifier. If you wanted to, you could even pick yourself I guess, but then it'd be hard to lobby votes for your re-election the next time around.
Why don't you just go to the USDGC Qualifier events? Like these (http://usdgc.com/qualifyingevents.htm). If you are so obsessed with how the series is run, or how to get in the final 8, why did you skip out on the 1st series event?

jeffash
Oct 03 2006, 12:57 PM
I don't think you get it. I'm not concerned about getting into the final 8, or being the state coordinator.
Who did you vote for?
No one else seemed interested in holding Pitch accountable for what he has done, or said.
Don't worry. Like I said- I'm getting bored.

Oct 03 2006, 02:15 PM
Unfortunately, it seems as though most people don't care. Maybe i'm wrong. This area has been starved for disc golf for a long time. I think people might be too excited/happy that courses have finally been put into the ground and tournaments are occuring. The thing is though, the process is just as important as the results.

accidentalROLLER
Oct 03 2006, 03:24 PM
I don't think you get it. I'm not concerned about getting into the final 8, or being the state coordinator.
Who did you vote for?
No one else seemed interested in holding Pitch accountable for what he has done, or said.
Don't worry. Like I said- I'm getting bored.


I don't think you get it either, Jeff (not meant to be disrespectful). The people in charge, can do whatever they want. Pitch is there until he gets voted out...until then, he CAN and WILL do whatever he wants. Unlike our gov't, in disc golf, there are no "checks and balances". Pitch can do whatever he wants for USDGC, Wafda, BG, Alma, etc and no one has any real power to stop him. If he wants to announce skins and then change his mind. If he wants to pocket the money, he can, as can anyone else running a tourney. Ganzel does whatever he wants at Northshore and does. The PDGA can do whatever they want with rules, memberships, tourneys, and anything else, and they do.
Be proactive about something you have control over. Unfortunately, the only thing we have control over in disc golf is throwing plastic. Everything else is messed up and contolled by dictators. My suggestion is you either accept it and live with it, or run for a position and then you can do whatever you want.

P.S. Tom, before you jump on my butt, I was not attacking you, I was just making a statement. No personal attacks, I repeat, no personal attacks.

P.S.S. Added Cash

jeffash
Oct 03 2006, 03:36 PM
http://www.whydidigowrong.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/yawn-bush.jpg

3902
Oct 03 2006, 04:20 PM
None taken.It is true about the Reps' position and the rules set by the PDGA.Here again we just have a politics situation.The cool thing about this is it is putting more and more on our plate(Also the bad thing about it)We'll get it done.Each year modifications will take place.Whoever puts together the next qualifying type event may go about it a little diffrently.The thing is it's begun.AR now has enough going on to start setting up these situations.My idea is to unite all the areas of our state and form a state association.Guidelines can be put into place to protect the work of earlier position holders.This is not to concrete anything,Just to keep someone from coming in and screwing it all up.What happens in our state should be from results of voting and discussion.A combined effort from all involved.This type of situation can put the organization in place to produce better events,more courses,etc.If someone would say for example treat the PR side of it all like a buisness and keep all the sponsers in touch with us and our doings.Sponsership money would flow naturally into our areas.You can't just say thanks for the $100.00 and never contact them again.People need to commit to positions and follow thru.In time it'll be an easy thing to do.All we'll have to do is spend a few minutes a day or week keeping up with our part.But like I said a minute ago,Guidelines and Commitment are our only way of protection.We follow them accordingly with the PDGA and within ourselves and we'll see alot more to talk about.But think of the sweetness of it all.ADDED CASH,LESS TRAVEL TIME,MORE COURSES,MORE PEOPLE,(You liked that added cash part didn't ya)So Ash (and all you others)Take a position,Do a better job if you can.I'm encouraging everyone to get involved.But if you don't, :pKeep it to yourself.

sschumacher
Oct 03 2006, 05:03 PM
Play Chandlerstock!!!! :cool::) :cool:

http://www.peakware.com/photos/everest5.jpg

The rest of you will just have to ponder http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/tv/bbrr/feat.jpg about what could have been. :confused:

3902
Oct 03 2006, 05:07 PM
Brrrrrrrrrrrr!!!We don't have all that hair and belly to keep us arkies warm.(We could use your guitar for firewood)

sschumacher
Oct 03 2006, 05:09 PM
The prize you seek waits on the other side of the door. http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/tv/bbrr/sylves2.jpg

It will be something you can tell your grandchildren about!!! http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/tv/bbrr/sylves10.jpg :cool:

evandmckee
Oct 03 2006, 07:20 PM
Play Chandlerstock!!!! :cool::) :cool:

http://www.peakware.com/photos/everest5.jpg






who wants to freeze on that thing and probably have to eat nasty okies just to survive when you can stay home and chill like this........ :cool:


http://www.harrisonarkansas.org/photos/headers/hawksbillcrag.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring7.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring9.jpg
http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring2.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring3.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring5.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring6.jpg http://www.climbhcr.com/Diskspring8.jpg

jeffash
Oct 03 2006, 07:45 PM
So Ash (and all you others)Take a position



We already have...
http://www.humorbg.com/Karikaturi/MEN&WOMEN/about%20men/bend-over-backwards.jpg

3902
Oct 03 2006, 09:49 PM
The heads still showin.Close.

jeffash
Oct 03 2006, 09:53 PM
That's so we can still keep an eye on you while you are letting us have it.

3902
Oct 03 2006, 10:02 PM
:confused:

3902
Feb 01 2007, 08:59 PM
Hot Springs,Sat April 28th.
1 Day C Tier.
Cedar Glades Park( approx 2 miles from the Arlington Hotel.)
2 Rounds of 18.
The Flyer will be out soon.This is to be #4 of the series.Northshore of course is #3.
ADDED CASH!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

3902
Feb 16 2007, 10:23 AM
AR State Championships WILL NOT be a PDGA event But WILL remain on the USDGC SPOT chase.

evandmckee
Apr 06 2007, 02:37 PM
Pitch is swamped with work and called to ask me to post this...

the Russellville Park Dept. is wanting a tourney in July, his thought is to throw a non-sanctioned grand opening tournament with affordable entries, maybe $30 open, $20 adv., $10 Int., Rec, Jr, Ladies... He's thinking to do it on Sat. July 14th, 2 rounds of 18 with the 2nd round being the Finals for the USDGC spot instead of Clarksville....if you're in the finals you wouldn't have to pay the reg fee for the tourney to compete as a USDGC series finalist, however, by paying to register in the tourney the prizes could be better being that you'd be eligible for the tourney payout/prizes.

3902
Apr 15 2007, 10:52 AM
New USDGC scores are up.
The pot is up to $336.90
Let me know if you see any errors.
I checked it all a few times but ya knows me.

3902
Apr 26 2007, 10:05 AM
#1 Tommy Eddy 487
#2 Kyle McKlure 488
#3 Dason Kaylor 494
#4
#5 Watson Ganzel 497
#6 Adam Morrow 507
#7 Larry Quinones 519
#8 Hangar /Davis 524
:cool:

evandmckee
Apr 26 2007, 12:45 PM
I'm only 40 strokes out, should be a piece of cake :p

3902
Apr 26 2007, 01:56 PM
;)

3902
Apr 28 2007, 05:20 PM
I may be adding Russellville to the overall payout.
Let's see if we can get that winner a cool grand to go on.
:cool:

3902
May 20 2007, 10:40 PM
I'll get the scores and amount of the series up asap.
Lots of changes

3902
Jun 21 2007, 10:54 AM
1st
Tommy Eddy 705
2nd
Adam Morrow 716
3rd
Kelly Watson 722
4th
Stephen Hangar 725
5th
Pitch 736
6th
Kyle McClure 744
7th
Tas Lehoczky 746
8th
Tony Forrestor 747

With only 1 event left there's gonna be some smokin golf to be done to make it.
Alma Greens should see the overall series pot climb to the $800 plus mark easily.Russellville will hopefully make it a cool $1,000 for the overall winner.
If you make the top 8 and cannot make the USDGC event please let me know so that I can let the next best score in on the playoff in Russellville.
Good luck everyone!!! :cool:

3902
Jul 08 2007, 06:49 PM
THE TOP 8 WILL BE ANNOUNCED TOMOROW .

3902
Jul 09 2007, 10:53 AM
#1 Tommy Eddy
#2 Adam Morrow
#3 Kelly Watson
#4 Stephen Hangar
#5 Pitch
#6 Taz Lehoczky
#7 Kelly Ganzel
#8 Tony Forrestor
Now if you can't make the USDGC event let me know.I'll replace the spot with the next best score.
Send me a PM if your in.I need to hear from ALL of the top 8.
I'm waiting. :cool:

evandmckee
Jul 09 2007, 03:38 PM
Better start calling em, there's about 6 of those guys that probably never get on this board....

I'm still showing just hoping that the rest of those 8 don't, well I guess I need Pitch there to run the tourney and hand me my money and trophy, and oh yeah I need a ride from him or somebody also :cool:

3902
Jul 09 2007, 10:13 PM
Morrow sent me a PM.Said he'd be there to claim his prize.
Ganzel is in.
Morrow is in.
Watson is in.
Eddy in.
Pitch DUH!!!!!
Someone needs to contact Lehoczky,Hangar and Forrestor.
Oh yeah eddy said just go ahead and give him the $$$.He's pretty determined.
It's on baby !!!!! :cool:

lilhobbit489
Jul 09 2007, 11:13 PM
Played with Lehoczky today. He, Hanger, and Forrester all know that they are in and they will be there.

Adam Morrow

3902
Jul 10 2007, 01:04 AM
DONE!!!
Now here's the deal.
If you play it means you'll go.If you cannot go then don't take the spot of someone who will.
I'd hate to sick the rest of the state on anyone who takes the $$$ and the spot and doesn't go.
If you've made it congrats!!!!!
The real deal is on sat.Bring your USDGC game or stay home on the porch.
This is big dog day.No wimps or whiners. ;)
(Oh I forgot,THEY stayed home and whined the whole time WE supported AR Disc Golf)
The real AR golfers will be there i'm sure.
OUCH!!!!!!!!! :D