Please vote for the logo that you like best ( 1 vote only please).

These logo�s are a combination of art supplied to us by several people so there may be more than one winner!
The contest will go on for one week, ending Wednesday night September 27th - Good Luck!

http://www.mbstuart.com/gds/inferno_logos_for_contest.jpg

David McCormack
Owner Gateway Disc Sports.
314-303-1488
www.gdstour.com (http://www.gdstour.com)

Didn't someone post on the original thread that numbers 3 and 5 were plagarized from a copyrighted image? Should those be options?

why would it be neccessary to have the name appear twice? :confused:

I still like this one:
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4751/infernofo9.jpg
And its original too!

That is cool...HEY, I wanna change my vote! :D

My buddy can clean it up and make it look awesome in Illustrator if whoever is running the contest wants me to.

I also much prefer that one over the others. The guy is really cool, but I especially like the grafitti-esque lettering.

yeah I change my vote to the guy with the graffiti lettering too.

er, whatever... we can't get gateway up here anyways... I like that oddessy wizard though (Eric gave me one)

K anywho... graffiti guy is cool

Okay first let me say that yes this is in fact The Human Torch. Nuff said. Second of all plagarized is defined as

"To copy and assume credit for someone else's work, instead of acknowledging in writing that someone else produced it."

a. "I" never assumed credit for this as an original work of art so therefore I did not plagiarize anything.

b. Dave was looking for ideas and I was shooting ideas to him. Never on this board did "I" the person who did this in photoshop assume credit for this as an original artwork.

You can call this semantics but the fact remains that I never insinusated as having created this work out of my own head. Do I think in it's current incarnation it should go on a disc, no, I think it was an idea that was sent in to a contest as a possibility. I think it would need a complete revamp into a better formed piece or original art. The human torch was used for body positioning. I do not nor have I ever advocated the stealing of another's art.

So, on topic, I am voting for the one that is not in the running, That one rules.

I like the one that is not in the poll. That one is awesome, and does not use a copyrighted image. Bonus.

I e-mailed the image to dave Mac adn posted it on the contest thread. I don't know why its not in the voting.

i voted for the #$*&$! one

: ) :

I have checked over my emails and cant find the art.
What day was it sent?

On the Copywrite infringement.
I dont know much about inferno man, but we would have to rework the dark silhoutte of the guy in order to make a hotstamp. The solid black areas wouldnt stamp very well, so the whole thing would have to be redrawn anyway. By that time it wouldnt look so much the same.
Feel free to write in a vote for the "new guy" !

Thanks to all for participating!

BTW,
Why cant you get any Gateway in BC?

I also vote for the "new guy". And I vote NOT to have the name on the disc twice. Thanks.

I still like this one:
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/4751/infernofo9.jpg
And its original too!



Why is he looking at his scorecard?? :D

LOL! This was just a rough sketch we cleaned up. My buddy can put it in Illustrator and make it look awesome, he just said he didn't have the time when we sketched it. But if we get the go-ahead, he'll get to work on that and make it look sweet.

How does this look for the layout?
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/448/infernownameem6.jpg

I dig it.

I also vote for the image that is not on the poll. Even with a rework, it would still look sweet.

How does this look for the layout?
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/448/infernownameem6.jpg



Coolest one I've seen so far...
I vote this one...

SCROW_TORRR gets my vote! ;)

I do product development for a living, and deal with product artwork quite a bit. That being said, I think all of the 6 options are a bit lacking for a golf disc hot stamp.

The version not for vote (i.e. not on the list) is definitely better, but I would like to see the disc itself more promenently displayed in the graphic.

-E

I do product development for a living, and deal with product artwork quite a bit. That being said, I think all of the 6 options are a bit lacking for a golf disc hot stamp.



It's one thing to say you like the one not included in the poll. It's another to bash the one's that put forth the effort & got the artwork where it needed to be. Also - this was a contest that got myself and a number of other people excited to even have a chance to design a hot stamp, the point wasn't to look like other disc golf hot stamps.

I'm obviously bias about our entry - but I don't think it's lacking at all TYVM.
http://www.mbstuart.com/gds/Inferno_WIP.jpg
:)

Sorry, but in my opinion that looks like an old, bald bodybuilder who caught fire during a boxing match. i still like the one not in the poll.

I voted for option two. The hand-drawn extra doesn't seem to fit with a typical gateway line stamp, for some reason. Option 2/6 fits better with the current GateWay line, a little continuity if you will. Option number two is better because the text also fits better with what I can recall seeing of GateWay labeling on the discs, option six's "inferno style" text is a bit tacky, imho.


-Chris.

The hand-drawn extra doesn't seem to fit with a typical gateway line stamp, for some reason. Option 2/6 fits better with the current GateWay line, a little continuity if you will.



I personally don't like the Gateway stamps that I think you're referring to (the Spirit, Speed Demon, Scream) that all look like a random head flying (Although I really like the Sabre stamp -- nice and simple lettering with the sword). I think a nice change-of-pace with a really sweet drawing would help with sales.

Of course, if I had my pick, every disc would have the small stamp in the middle that says "Gateway Disc Sports Prototype" but without "Prototype" of course once it's regular run. I like clean and simple like that.

personally none of them jump out and say pick me but that not to say there good,some of them look to devilish to me
( just my opinion ) but what do i know. I'm with Bigs just keep it simple

I'm also a fan of small stamps. This is the reason I like the innova small star stamp so much. I've also got some gateway discs with a stamp the size of the star stamp that has the arch with a disc flying though it, and says gateway disc sports on it, and its probably my favorite. I think the Hybrid stamp, with it's simple design and nice size is another good one. So is the sabre.
I've never been a fan of the big, gaudy stamps. Probably the reason I end up removing so many of them from my discs anyways.

I think one of my favorites stamps ever is the new Demon stamp. Love that one.

The hand-drawn extra doesn't seem to fit with a typical gateway line stamp, for some reason. Option 2/6 fits better with the current GateWay line, a little continuity if you will.



I personally don't like the Gateway stamps that I think you're referring to (the Spirit, Speed Demon, Scream) that all look like a random head flying (Although I really like the Sabre stamp -- nice and simple lettering with the sword). I think a nice change-of-pace with a really sweet drawing would help with sales.

Of course, if I had my pick, every disc would have the small stamp in the middle that says "Gateway Disc Sports Prototype" but without "Prototype" of course once it's regular run. I like clean and simple like that.


I'm more a fan of simple... here's something I posted somewhere else, but couldn't seem to get to actually work to my standards when I went into Photoshop...

" oblong circle in the center with flames coming out of the bottom. This creates the impression of a disc flying vertically. Above the disc you'd have the word INFERNO in a block sort of text, the disc would be cutting into the bottom center of the word (you'd want to select the disc shape, expand the selection, go to the word and erase that selection, get what I'm saying now?) The word INFERNO would have flames coming out the bottom of it, shorter than the ones coming from the disc."

Simple, a flaming disc in the center, cutting into the word INFERNO with light flames licking down from its bottom... But, like I said, I just couldn't get it to work right in PS.

Go with number # 6

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http://www.mbstuart.com/gds/inferno_logos_for_contest.jpg

Photo shop?
Do you have Illustrator?

Photo shop?
Do you have Illustrator?

Everyone tells me Illustrator is amazing, but the copy of PS7 I got was free from Bluffton University... and i don't have the money for Illustrator. And it isn't NEAR as easy finding a hacked version for Apple.

I can open AI files in PS... wish I had it, it seems from what I've heard that it'd make life far easier.

Photo shop?
Do you have Illustrator?

Everyone tells me Illustrator is amazing, but the copy of PS7 I got was free from Bluffton University... and i don't have the money for Illustrator. And it isn't NEAR as easy finding a hacked version for Apple.

I can open AI files in PS... wish I had it, it seems from what I've heard that it'd make life far easier.



The reason Illustrator is key is that it can generate PS/AI/SVG files. These files are special in the printing/digital graphics world in that they can be zoomed/scaled infinitely without getting grany. A free program (although I only know of it existing under linux) is sodi-podi that does the same thing. Photoshop is great when you don't need to scale the image, but vector based graphics are THE way to do professional artwork like these. And yes, they have been around for 10+ years.

http://www.inkscape.org/
I haven't tried it but it supposed to be an open source vector application for Mac & Windows.

Thanks for the help and advice guys :) I'll look into Inkscape once I get home on my own machine!

Photo shop?
Do you have Illustrator?

Everyone tells me Illustrator is amazing, but the copy of PS7 I got was free from Bluffton University... and i don't have the money for Illustrator. And it isn't NEAR as easy finding a hacked version for Apple.

I can open AI files in PS... wish I had it, it seems from what I've heard that it'd make life far easier.



The reason Illustrator is key is that it can generate PS/AI/SVG files. These files are special in the printing/digital graphics world in that they can be zoomed/scaled infinitely without getting grany. A free program (although I only know of it existing under linux) is sodi-podi that does the same thing. Photoshop is great when you don't need to scale the image, but vector based graphics are THE way to do professional artwork like these. And yes, they have been around for 10+ years.



Using Photoshop 7, you can save VECTOR information in the file and this output will give you that same smooth (non-rastorized) that illustrator does. Create your art using the pen tool, with fill colors. Save the file as an Adobe PDF. Don't ad any rastor drawing ... that is, don't use the paint tool or brushes to ad to the art work. All art must be done with the pen tool only, and color added must be filled in vector drawing.
Rastor images are bitmaped (pixelated) and that's why images get jaggy edges when you re-sized larger.
Vector images use Postscript, and this allows you to resize images to any resolution/size reducing jaggy edges.
Hope this helps.

Its even helping me?
What is SVG used for?

Oh, I know. It's one of my research projects, though. SVG stands for "Scalable Vector Graphics" Basicly, instead of a drawing being a binary representation, it's written in markup code like html or xml. While it's supported by other programs, it's main use these days is a translation of vector graphics in web browsers.

<?xml version="1.0" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd">

<svg width="100%" height="100%" version="1.1"
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">

<circle cx="100" cy="50" r="40" stroke="black"
stroke-width="2" fill="red"/>

</svg>


If you've got firefox 1.5 or later (which supports SVG's), you should see a red circle below.

http://www.w3schools.com/svg/circle1.svg

Since it's a vector graphic, it can be zoomed in to an infinite degree without any loss of granularity.

SVG is controlled by the World Wide Web Consortioum (W3C), which is responsible for the standard HTML, PNG, SMIL, SOAP, XML, among other things.

edit: appearently, this board isn't capable of embedded svg images, so you can check it out here. (http://www.w3schools.com/svg/circle1.svg)

I really don't understand what you guys are talking about but if it makes the hotstamps cooler then I am all for it. I love the one that is not on the poll Dave. it is far and away the best out of the options. (All the others were cool too guys so great work and keep shootin' If I know Dave at all he will have something esle comming out in the near future...he is the man as far as I am concerned on the inovation front...Way to go Dave...keep evolving the equipment and I'll keep throwin'em into trees...I love to test the toughness..or at least that is what I tell people.) :D:cool:

Inkscape is pretty decent. My son does some killer drawings in Inkscape. He's 4.

SVG is lame.

SVG is lame.


915 is a lame rating.


-Chris.
i carefully avoided it a few periods ago, getting a 914... because its cooler

The one not in the poll is the best. Whatever you choose, please only put the name on it once. You don't need inferno on there twice.

Sweet...my rating went back up a little bit...forgot about the ratings update.



SVG is lame.


915 is a lame rating.


-Chris.
i carefully avoided it a few periods ago, getting a 914... because its cooler

SVG is lame.



Because there's another standardized web-supported non-propritary vector graphic that's better?

Here's my outlook on SVG. I have worked with it in many shapes and forms, don't care for it, so in my opinion it is lame. You can like it if you want...that's your choice.

This debate is no different than the Gateway vs. Innova vs Discraft argument. You will have people from all sides giving their point of view on the topic. Myself...I am a strong believer in Gateway. So I tote Gateway as my preferred manufacturer. By me saying that, there is rest asured some guy that throws Innova or Discraft saying ...that is lame. It's just the nature of the beast.

Now back onto topic...I kind of agree with the people that like the non-posted one. And I do agree with whoever stated that Inferno doesn't need to be displayed twice.

I'll get back on topic after this, but what web-supported vector graphic do you like better than SVG? Remeber, you're the one who called out SVG, not me. I was just answering a question.

Where can I find images of the potential stamps?

The most (maybe only?) exciting aspect of SVG is that the dueling "next-gen" optical disc formats, Blu-Ray & HD-DVD, both support it. As screen sizes & resolutions continue to balloon, menus, graphics, & transitions can be rendered with infinite resolution. I've been futzing about a bit w/ Blu-Ray authoring, and that feature alone (not to mention the superiority of the H.264 video format) makes the new wave of consumer discs uber-exciting!

Sorry, my web site was down so the images weren't loading.
I guess there was some "HUGE fibre cut on the internet that affected portions of the East Coast."
???
Anyway, it's been fixed now.

I'll get back on topic after this, but what web-supported vector graphic do you like better than SVG? Remeber, you're the one who called out SVG, not me. I was just answering a question.



Flash is the front runner right now.

I'll get back on topic after this, but what web-supported vector graphic do you like better than SVG? Remeber, you're the one who called out SVG, not me. I was just answering a question.



Flash is the front runner right now.



Sorry, I meant to put non-propritary instead of web-supported. If the flash standard is open like SVG (which is regulated by the W3C), then it is way better.

Where can I find images of the potential stamps?



They are on the first page where you can vote for them

Its funny to compare these stamps to the skeeter stamp. Makes Gateway seem pretty hardcore.

When I saw the "skeeter" thread I thought it was a joke!

For some reason I cant see a group of grown men sitting around a board room looking at the art for skeeter, then each other and saying " YEAH!!! I think its cool, lets go with it. :confused:

I would'nt say we are hard core( not that it would be a bad thing), but more edgy!

It is VERY hard to use a name for a disc, that fits the demographic of ALL disc golfers.
The range of people who play this game has been one of the things I like most about it.
You can get in a foursoome with a Lawyer, a Marine, A teacher and a rastafarian :cool:
Or a pastor, a cop, a high school baseball player and a stripper!
or someone who is 14, 25, 40 and 60.

I personally think more people of color should play disc golf.

With only a few days left its looking like number 6 will be the winner.
We may develop a few pieces of art involving number 6 with some variations.
The solid lines may bea bit too thick for hotstamping and I wouldnt mind seeing a disc in the guys hand or maybe some hair on his head!!

Thanks to all who have helped!!

Here's my outlook on SVG. I have worked with it in many shapes and forms, don't care for it, so in my opinion it is lame. You can like it if you want...that's your choice.

This debate is no different than the Gateway vs. Innova vs Discraft argument. You will have people from all sides giving their point of view on the topic. Myself...I am a strong believer in Gateway. So I tote Gateway as my preferred manufacturer. By me saying that, there is rest asured some guy that throws Innova or Discraft saying ...that is lame. It's just the nature of the beast.

Now back onto topic...I kind of agree with the people that like the non-posted one. And I do agree with whoever stated that Inferno doesn't need to be displayed twice.


:D

I just got back from Chi-Town, running some SUPER-Glow Odyssey Putters and designing a few more discs.

Well,,The contest is officially over!
Thanks to all who sent in art and participated in the voting and discussion, it was a really big success.

The winner is Michael Stuart's and I need to go back to see who sent in the flaming text.
If youre out there resend your submission!!!

We will be revamping the winning art into 3-4 versions for the final phaze of the stamp.

BTW;,,,,
The infernos's on FIRE :cool::cool::cool::cool:

http://www.mbstuart.com/downloads/Inferno_Final_Stamp.jpg
Flash Animation (http://www.mbstuart.com/gds/Inferno_Animated.html)
Big thanks to Clayton Northrup for the source illustrations, thanks to David McCormack for the great new discs and for having such a cool contest, and thank you to EVERYONE that voted!
~Mike

Mike,
Will you post the final version of the stamp on here fro people to see, maybe even the animated one, that was pretty cool!!

Mike,
Will you post the final version of the stamp on here fro people to see, maybe even the animated one, that was pretty cool!!



He did. It's the post right above. The stamp is there with a link to the animation.

Hey you should have waited to put the guy on the TGIF comercial that I think called himself Inferno, that would have been sweet.