More than 365 days older than the date of your most recently rated round. It's different for everyone based on the date of their most recently rated round. If you don't play a new rated round, no old rounds ever drop and your rating remains the same.

any chance we can get a sneek peak at Matt ZZ Buono #19987 's 3rd digit?

Don't have a peek yet.

Getting a peak at that digit would make life easier for a lot of people...We have to make travel arrangements and if he comes is based on that digit....

no wammys no wammys

low # low#

be low baby

no wammys no wammys

low # low#



lmao

you baggers are killin me :D

no wammys no wammys

low # low#



lmao

you baggers are killin me :D



NO JOKE - But where they're goin, we can fill that bag w/cow biscuits :)

mmmmmmmmm, Cow Pie

there are at least 3 teams hoping for some low numbers on this update. funny, the first time i've really cared where someone's rating wound up and i'm hoping for low.

Who R U waiting for Biscoe?

probably old man hysell

Oooooh boy......CMon man, give us the stinkin ratings...and make them stinky!!!

ReaL stinky

morning bueno breath sTTinky

if iTT is like that Dome will be in No DoubTT

Who's on the bubble for what rating break? I might be able to tell which side of the line someone will end up without giving their rating until it's official.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=19987

needs to drop below 955

He's got no new events rated since Oct, so no change.

Its not Domeo here...but thats no bueno....Hs not going up, so is he going down!?

You're lucky the MSDGC isn't rated - Dome would be KILLIN those ratings...

oh well, maybe one day.

We'll let him play. Whats a few points?

oh well, maybe one day.



Fly me out Swebby...I dropped to 953... ;)

Snowy Oregon to Snowy Cakkalakky....some change.. :D

Wish I had the money, you would love the course. Unfortunately you would have to be a ringer on another team since we have to Wegian ringers.

dammmm go down baby down baby

He's got no new events rated since Oct, so no change.



nothing is going to be droped

R the new ratings on time..early? I think i might get bard this time...I drop last years tupelo, and add this years....adding MSDGC would be great, but alas.

early is good........for the people.

GiTTerdunn

Once again another stupid question by me but are the ratings not going to be up early and just out up tomorrow? I'm on some stupid field trip and was trying to see how much I moved up but didn't see the new ratings yet. thanks for what ever replies I get.

Looks like the update will be posted sometime today before 5pm EST while Dave is at the PDGA office.

Nice, Thanks Chuckles

what are the dates for the last tourneys used in this update?

Chuck,
Just out of curiosity, approximately how many players will have their ratings updated this time?
Thanks.

This is the official 2006 yearend update that includes all rateable events in 2006 (yes, we finally got all of them :)) thru the end of December and no events in January. We have 51 events in this update but I'm not sure how many players will get updates, maybe 1500-2000 (51 events times 30-40 players who didn't have a rated round in an earlier event in the update)?

did I go up?

if so, more or less than 3 points?

You'll know in less than 6 hours.

I will wager on 983. I bet you went up 3 points. Tupelo 2005 drops off and is replaced by Tupelo 2006. You shot almost identical ratings in both, but 2006 will be double weighted.

They're up.

Looks like they have been updated.

I went up 20 pts! .....and should stay there for a while.

One lousy point away!!!! grrrr.....

I'm up 3 points. Nice move, Strojny.

drat!! my 2 players are 1 and 2 points too high!

time for the remix.

This is the official 2006 yearend update that includes all rateable events in 2006 (yes, we finally got all of them :)) thru the end of December and no events in January. We have 51 events in this update but I'm not sure how many players will get updates, maybe 1500-2000 (51 events times 30-40 players who didn't have a rated round in an earlier event in the update)?


Thanks Chuck.

whats one or two points

let them in

Sjur, welcome to the 1000 rated club!

Cmon Pman, Ive been here for a month now...But thnks buddy..I thought I might go up to 1004 and bard would drop to 1003, but hy....1000 is a 1000...Next race is to 1010 wins, all news, all the time.

C Lee joined the 1000 club.

oops, Sjur, I thought you were still 99X there.

Why didn't you move up, Robert? Get with the program already.

Why didn't you move up, Robert? Get with the program already.



Nice combo of bad golf and no practice.

Since September, the remaining small boost factor that had finally dropped to just about 1 point, that was in place to offset the change from dropping 15% to now about 2%, has now gone. The doubling of your most recent 25% of your rounds is still in place and no changes in the individual rating calc are expected this year.

question

One of my 8 recent rounds was thrown out.

Does this mean that the 4th round of the tournament before is double weighted or only 7 of mine are double weighted?

It's my understanding that Roger determines which of your rounds will be doubled before doing the calculation that drops low rounds. If one of your rounds to be doubled ends being dropped, another round does not replace it to be doubled.

Chuck, is there anything you guys can do to get Steady Ed's rating bumped to an honorary 1000? If anyone deserves to be in that club, it's him, even posthumously.

ratings are up for Jan 30 I went up another 4 points :D thanks for all the hard work

If anything, we would maybe raise it to a level like 1100 which would be virtually impossible for anyone with even 2 rounds to achieve in a ratings update. I don't think it's a ratings group decision as much as a request you make to the PDGA Board via sending a note to the staff at PDGA HQ.

anyone go up more than 134 points? We had one of our club members jump that much - way to go Deidre!!!

Larry Leonard is listed in the Am division

That's where he renewed with the amnesty program...

Larry Leonard is listed in the Am division



Maybe he wants to prove a point..... :o

OR

Maybe its an error..... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Would he be "closed out" now because of the field of 201? :p


:D

larry only renewed as an am..
and just like EVERY am has been able to do since day 1 he CAN PLAY UP if he wishes,....which i'm pretty sure he will as the carolina boys don't let ANYBODY get away with baggin' in their state :D

plus his rating is too high to play intermediate so he would have to face all of craig's 980+ rated advanced baggers if he played advanced.... :eek:

he's safer playing open where he only has the schweberger/ terminator player to compete with :D:D

can't call LL a bagger. he's an am and signed up as a pro at the VA open. Way to step up LL!

The PDGA needs more ams like LL who are willing to step up to the pro ranks. :) :D:)

drat!! my 2 players are 1 and 2 points too high!

time for the remix.



i'm still low enough if you really want a shot at winning :D

The PDGA needs more ams like LL who are willing to step up to the pro ranks.



Or step back down and then step up. Maybe he is trying to burn calories like those step aerobics people.

The PDGA needs more ams like LL who are willing to step up to the pro ranks.



Or step back down and then step up. Maybe he is trying to burn calories like those step aerobics people.


I guess I forgot the smiley. :)

C Lee joined the 1000 club.



Just noticed that i did too. My rating seems to go up the less i play. :D

larry only renewed as an am

chit LL saved $25 dollars.. :o

Why doesnt everyone do the LL.

i think that's pretty LLame. I can see lesser pros doing it, but not those who actually attend the events that that extra 25 is earmarked for, let alone take home money from said events.

If we all did that, that's 60,000 dollars that the PDGA would lose to help run the NTs and Worlds.

i hope he shows up for Am Worlds this year. That would be AWESOME! (insert sarcasm here)

In LL's defense, he told the guy on the phone that there is no way he could do it and that he wouldn't feel right. Then the guy said theres no difference and touring guys like Al Shack are doing it.

Al Shack signed up as pro.

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Micah Dorius 14609 CA USA 1026 M Pro
Walter Haney 6001 NC USA 1025 M Pro
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JohnE McCray 9852 FL USA 1024 M Pro
Dean Tannock 4028 AL USA 1024 M Pro
Anders Sw�rd 5310 SWEDEN 1023 M Pro
Christian Sandstr�m 17004 SWEDEN 1023 M Pro
Matt Orum 18330 AL USA 1023 M Pro
Eric McCabe 11674 KS USA 1021 M Pro
Jason J-Bird Light 16304 TN USA 1021 M Pro
Darrell Nodland 7225 ND USA 1021 M Pro
Nolan Grider 13219 TX USA 1020 M Pro
Brad Hammock 5912 GA USA 1020 M Pro
Markus K�llstr�m 13150 SWEDEN 1019 M Pro
Timo Pursio 6005 FINLAND 1019 M Pro
Dan Ginnelly 3591 AZ USA 1018 M Pro
Steve Brinster 10628 NJ USA 1018 M Pro

Al Schack 3407 MI USA 1017 M Pro

Cale Leiviska 24341 MN USA 1017 M Pro
Coda Hatfield 23651 OK USA 1017 M Pro
Garrett Gurthie 13864 FL USA 1017 M Pro
Marco Lehousse 13500 BELGIUM 1017 M Pro
Aaron Wield 10789 WI USA 1017 M Pro

f we all did that, that's 60,000 dollars that the PDGA would lose

just another reason why renewals fees should be the same for am and pro since there is no added benefit to signing up as a pro. good for LL now he can use that $25 for entry fees. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

f we all did that, that's 60,000 dollars that the PDGA would lose

just another reason why renewals fees should be the same for am and pro since there is no added benefit to signing up as a pro. good for LL now he can use that $25 for entry fees. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



If we were told exactly where that EXTRA money went, It would be fine by me....I haven't renewed yet this year...neither has my brother....I love the IDEA of the PDGA, I just dont understand where all the $ goes....The Td's and players a taxed per player for every PDGA event...and on top of that you pay 75$ for a magazine(i dont want) and a player rating...I mean cmon...Is it really harder to produce those then it was last year....ps...not a hater...I would just like to know....

The difference between the added services for pros versus ams has already been explained elsewhere more than once. For starters, Marshal program costs, Duesler fund raising and Pro Worlds expenses (Am Worlds can cover most with retail/wholesale difference and there's no loss on a DVD)

Al Shack signed up as pro.




exactly my point. He was told that Al and others were signing up as am and he was the only one to do so.

For starters, Marshal program costs, Duesler fund raising and Pro Worlds expenses

is this broken down some where? :confused:

I asked PDGA HQ to post it somewhere so we don't have to have this discussion a dozen times in buried threads.

thanks

Chuck,

I just checked my rating and it was updated today (Jan 30th 2007). I thought ratings were done quarterly and the next update was in Feb/March. Is it normal to update ratings at the beginning of the new year?

Gracias!

We always have a yearend final ratings that includes the few events after Thanksgiving and all of the reports from earlier in 2006 that were tardy. It's a small update that only includes 51 events compared with close to 200 in some of the others. No events in 2007 are included. These ratings show your final number for 2006.

Chuck,

I just checked my rating and it was updated today (Jan 30th 2007). I thought ratings were done quarterly and the next update was in Feb/March. Is it normal to update ratings at the beginning of the new year?

Gracias!



I'm not Chuck, but I do know the answer. The January update is solely for those events that were left out of the December update, so it truly gives you your year-end 2006 rating. The December update deadline was Dec. 4th I believe, so any events that occurred after that deadline (or TDs who didn't get there stuff in until after that) will go in and close out the 2006 ratings.

Hope that helps.

One minute late, Bigs...

Aw man, I didn't even realize it. In the time it took me to type the post, Chuck was already doing his thing...

I appreciate the help though from folks who can post the correct answers. :)

Interesting...while I like the ratings for a general idea of a players skill over a perio of time, I'm perplexed that my rating has gone up 4 points (my highest).
In the 21 tourney rounds I've played since World's, I've averaged a rating of 934...a full 50 points lower then my new rating and exactly the average of my last 28 rounds when including the 7 rounds at Augusta.
Does this seem correct? Are all my 930 & 940 rounds not factored in? Perhaps my calculations are incorrect?

If this is really Alex Hughes posting, only 4 of your 39 rounds in your rating are under 952 (with the 890 being thrown out) and your most recent 10 rounds are double weighted, which includes 4 over 1000.

what happened to TTupelo (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6179&year=2006&include_ratings=1#Open)'s ratings? my average for this was 926, now its magically 960.5. TThe Pro beat me by 20 strokes and the rating's only 57 points higher? i, and the rest of the players in my group, can surely aTTest to the fact that that was def not 960 golf i was playing. i was happy with the 926

The TD report showed a 9 and 18 hole layout separately instead of combining them into 27. So the ratings are based on a gruesome 18-hole course with an SSA over 82 where each throw is worth less than 3 pts!! We'll get that fixed to 27 holes. Thanks.

no problem... back to 962 i guess

that brought me under 1000 for the torunament. BOOOOO. :mad:

and the rest of the players in my group, can surely aTTest to the fact that that was def not 960 golf i was playing.




word...but iTT was a BLASTT!

so... dumb question here but I don't feel like looking it up and I've obviously forgotten the answer since the last time I was told...

when is the next update? There's a small chance I'll be over 915 at the next update, and I'm going to register for Am World Doubles soon. I need to know if I will be allowed to play one last (world championship) event in MA2. Chuck? Anyone? When's the next update?

so... dumb question here but I don't feel like looking it up and I've obviously forgotten the answer since the last time I was told...

when is the next update? There's a small chance I'll be over 915 at the next update, and I'm going to register for Am World Doubles soon. I need to know if I will be allowed to play one last (world championship) event in MA2. Chuck? Anyone? When's the next update?



Next Ratings Update 4/10/07

from the FRONT PAGE fo the PDGA website.. ;)

:D

bah, front page... who goes there? :D

thx for the info

As the sport of disc golf grows, maybe we should change the rating system to accomodate the skill increase. What is the rating of an advanced player, 915 to 950 or something like that, maybe it should be some where closer to 935 to 975? Are there any changes in the future to the rating system?

We're discussing whether to or how to insert another level above Advanced potentially called Expert. There's no question that there is a problem with 915 to 1000 currently being too wide of a ratings range.

I think naming the division "expert" would be a mistake but thats just my opinion...

Why don't you just start handicapping AMS and let them compete by giving or taking strokes?

There's already a place to do that: www.discgolfunited.com (http://www.discgolfunited.com)

If we went handicapping, we would do it for everyone and have one big division. All of those new players with improving games would love winning events like the Memorial with $2000 in prizes while Ken and Barry end up with a few hundy trying to beat their negative handicaps to finish 10th or lower. (whoops, better put a smiley :))

Happy Birthday, Chuck!

You're up early for your big day.......or is that you are up really late celebrating? :eek: :D

Go get some eggs, bacon and pancakes!

Go get some eggs, bacon and pancakes!



The splurge will be at lunch with a #$*&$! pizza buffet :D

Happy B-Day Chuck :cool:

Thanks. Nothing like being able to kick back and watch the Memorial show on the internet to see how our homeboy Cale will do.

Happy Bday RATINGS MASTER.

happy bday!

is your age determined on how old other people born on the same day are like the ratings are based off of what other people shoot?

just giving ya a hard time

There were two more at the pizza place today with birthdays today but we didn't discuss ratings calcs. Trivia for today: This is the only date that's a phrase: March fourth!

Not quite - there is also July 2. "July two have some more pizza?" /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Or maybe, "July two after that shot?"

We're discussing whether to or how to insert another level above Advanced potentially called Expert. There's no question that there is a problem with 915 to 1000 currently being too wide of a ratings range.



Maybe Semi-Pro, Expert sounds like a div. above pro.

If we do it at all, my preference would be to switch to our color divisions and scrap our names that are connected with am divisions. But if that's too radical, Expert would work for the time being. Pros would just be experts who actually make a living at the sport, not that we have too many of those yet.

or maybe "august 30 mph blew your disc where?" /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

Colors would be good because it is hard to think of three or four words less than Recreational to name the divisions for amateur women and junior players. Numbers would work too. A lot of people already use Am 1, 2 and 3. Add 0, 4 and 5 and you're there.

Except we know most aren't really Ams, at least in the top divisions.

We're discussing whether to or how to insert another level above Advanced potentially called Expert. There's no question that there is a problem with 915 to 1000 currently being too wide of a ratings range.



Maybe Semi-Pro, Expert sounds like a div. above pro.



How serious is the idea of adding a division? Or if you prefer, when you be the earliest we might see such a change put into place?

If it happens, it will be announced as a proposal sometime after the April Summit meeting. The idea is to hash out a variety of ideas in the Competition Committee, present them to the Board at the Summit with recommendations and let members know soon afterwards so they can comment over the following months. Any items that need to be further reviewed or tweaked would be presented for final Board approval in the September Summit. Some proposals might be put in action during 2008 and some are being discussed for 2009.