3902
Aug 28 2006, 10:06 PM
This post is to hopefully enlighten all of those who seem to think the State Coordinator is seemingly a little(Shall I say,Confused? or Hot!!!) over allegations brought to my attention concerning certain tournaments,payouts,Ethics?and more to the point method of execution.Let's get right to the point.Payout at the Greens this year was TWICE the entry.For example.Open paid over $300.00 for first place.(There were only 6 people in this division)That doesn't include the Trophy or extras given to the 1st place winner.(I still have ALL the paperwork from the tourney if anyone would like to see it.Alma Greens had 42 people,Paid out $2,000.THE ONLY bummer about the Greens was the 9 hole skins I TRIED to pull off.If you recall,I was TRYING to get the skins put together.The MAYOR of Alma coughed up the cash to put in the NEW BASKETS?So when he told me showing the city something in return for the money spent I didn't argue.AND! Most of the money given to the Mayor that day was for about twenty discs left over from last year to give out.SO! The Mayor got about $250.00 in all.Not bad for what he's given us.There will be Concrete next year,Alternetes etc.Anybody understand Greasing The Wheel?If your upset about that,Think about what we'll get done in the years to come over that little sacrifice. 2nd! I took this position because I was asked to.My love of the sport and years without it drove me to shove AR onto the map.THE ONLY MONEY(Besides what I win from time to time) comes from Innova retailers in my area.(This by the way is paid to me in Plastic,Most given to new players and donated to tourneys etc)So when i'm accused of LINING MY POCKETS?I'm gonna get a little on edge.I'm paying my $250.00 phone bills.Taking calls EVERY DAY from people I don't know from god knows where to help develope this area.I'm proud of the progress we've all made in the last year and a half.It's obvious we're on the right track.A half dozen more courses are in the works,A Dozen sanctioned tourneys will happen in AR in 07.I bust my hump trying to help do what should have been done twenty years ago.If ANYBODY has a question feel free to call or PM.More than likely what your hearing is coming from a couple of folks who'd rather whine than partake.These are the ones who won't run tourneys,Whine about payouts,blah! blah! blah!You know who you are.IF!!! I hear anymore BS about my doings "OR" wrongdoings and i'm not contacted BEFORE judgement.Then join the crowd of misinformed.My goal (As it's always been)is to unite all of the state and put together some of the best events we can.I'm taking this on a personel level now.As you can see.And if i'm called a Liar?an A Hole?etc etc etc for gettin it done,So be it.KNOCK KNOCK!!! Who's running from whom?
accidentalROLLER
Aug 28 2006, 11:47 PM
What do tourney payouts have to do with the state coordinator? They don't really have anything to do with one another. Also, how does the tournament series to elect the 2007 USDGC Qualifier work? When I was in Ft. Smith last time, you said it was by total score. But that would mean only those who play all the events get considered. I'm still confused. :confused:
3902
Aug 29 2006, 08:36 AM
Exactley,Those who play all the events (The series)Not a tough task for someone wanting to go.This was designed get the players of the state to move around.There are alot of xlnt golfers in AR.Hopefully all of our events will see more action.The purse in the end should be enough to take the challenge.And I for one plan on hitting them all.This idea came from several phone calls and close evaluation.The majority ruled on this one.Not just me.As for the diffrences between Coordinator and TD.The post was to cover the Integrity of of my position and actions .Nothing burns me like false accusations.I can't stand to be called a liar.And what really burns my A is the fact that i've put alot of time into this to help out and a few whiners want to screw it all up.You all see me at events.You will definately see more of me to come.Got a problem?Idea?Let's hear it.Otherwise don't complain.Oh and by the way.If anyone can do a better job as coordinator.Positions coming up.My nomination will be for the one who complains the most.There's about 3 in the running.
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 10:19 AM
Vote for Furdog!!!!
As your Arkansas State Coodinator I promise to:
1) Make all holes 200 feet or less.
2) Take your money and bring it home to Tulsa.
3) Steal your chickens.
4) Raise the price of plastic.
5) Cut down every tree that is standing in your way.
6) Not listen to anyone but myself.
7) Drain all water hazards.
8) Provide dope sniffing dogs at every tournament.
9) Bring back Twoputt vs Mitchell mud wresling.
10) Teach everyone to speak Okie.
Who needs a good state coodinator when you can get someone like me who does nothing to promote the sport. :confused: :D
"You can't always get what you want......But if you run off Pitchford then you'll end up with fur in your face!
jeffash
Aug 29 2006, 12:45 PM
Exactley,Those who play all the events (The series)Not a tough task for someone wanting to go.
I think that it is a tough task for someone wanting to go.
You, and those who you say approved of the plan, have basically excluded those players who won't be able to attend all six events.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm lucky if I get to play in six tournaments a year. I don't like the idea of having to choose between attending tournaments- like the Oklahoma Open, KCWO, Pro Worlds, and some "C" tier in Clarksville, or Hot Springs- if I want to compete for the State USDGC bid.
I also wonder why two of these 2007 qualifying events are scheduled before the 2006 USDGC will be held.
I view your "plan" as a way to exclude those disc golfers who can't attend all six events, or who choose not to participate in any tournament that you are affiliated with.
You have threatened to resign many times. Maybe it's time you followed through.
If you don't like being called a liar, then don't lie. :(
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 02:39 PM
After recent developments I have decided to withdraw from my nomination to be the next Arkansas State Coordinator. You guys are just too tough and even though I'm a dog on the outside, I'm just a possy cat on the inside. :(.....In doing as little as I have promised to do, I'm afraid that it just won't be enough and you guys will end up breaking my crayons, stealing my lunch money, hurting my feelings, and making me cry. :( :p
For now I will concentrate on a Tulsa admin position since there are now so many getting ready to quit come November. I should be able to ride in on the coat tails of a successful Am Worlds and the fact that I am a <font color="orange">Golden </font> shovel winner. :cool: My reputation as a professional "slacker" here in Okie land has made me famous and those like Twoputt who worship me would be heartbroken if I gave up my life here to go pluck feathers in Hogland. ;)
Rest assured....
I did not sleep with Hillery Clinton at anytime but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night. :cool:
jeffash
Aug 29 2006, 02:54 PM
Pitch,
I would like to know what specific disc golf related complaints you have against me, and I'd like for you to make them public by posting them on this discussion board.
You have made numerous negative references about me on this board, and in other places. You've called me a whiner, a complainer, and much more.
I have refrained from posting a lot of the things you have done just to cut you some slack, but now I don't feel like you deserve it.
I think it is great that you want to air this out on this discussion board. You have already told me you won't talk to me on the phone, or read any e-mails or PM's I send, so this is going to be a good thing.
I have a long list of specific disc golf related complaints against you that I'm ready to make "public" but, just to be fair, I'll wait to see how you respond to this.
Remember, I want you to list specific complaints concerning how I have harmed, or hindered, the growth of disc golf in this area. Write down any lies that you think I have told, or that you've heard I've told. Anything you can think of that I've done, or that you think I shouldn't have done, or I should have done differently.
The floor is yours...
omegaputt
Aug 29 2006, 03:12 PM
My only question, is why would you advertise/metion that there is going to be skins, then there isnt? I know there were some OKC guys complaining, if i remember right.
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 03:28 PM
I think I may have to put together a PAY PER VIEW for this event.
:D
We could advertise it and hold it on the beautifull shores of Lake Northshore. Could be an EPIC event, with mulitiudes of spectators from all over the region. The winner could even take on the State Coordinator of Oklahoma for the ultimate title of domination. :o
Stir, stir. :D
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 03:34 PM
Get out!!! :mad:....I was here before you. I've put more words into this thread than you have and it didn't take me half as long to think of them. :D
Pack_Mule
Aug 29 2006, 03:37 PM
added cash, skins? and i am not even a pro.
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 03:38 PM
Hey STICK IT, Furface! :mad:
Don't make me have to choke you. :o
You ain't nothin but a
http://www.wussymusic.com/frame/wussy.jpg any how! :mad:
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 03:46 PM
I know you are but what am I? :p
I know you are but what am I? :p
I know you are but what am I? :p
I know you are but what am I? :p
:p
jeffash
Aug 29 2006, 03:49 PM
You are a puzzle wrapped inside a riddle wrapped inside an enema. :D
accidentalROLLER
Aug 29 2006, 04:34 PM
I could see some serious "added cash" for this thread.
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 04:42 PM
Yes, but there is no Mayor this time. :D
accidentalROLLER
Aug 29 2006, 04:45 PM
If there ever was......
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 04:52 PM
I didn't say that. Don't make have to come over there and start choking your arse. :o
PAY PER VIEW NATIONAL EVENT
"THE" vs "P"
With some great preliminary matches.
Wise "The *******" vs Scott "The Furminator" Schumacher
Wayne "Eeny-miny-moe" Forest vs Kevin "Pro Ho" McCoy
With the winner of these two matches going at it just before the Main event.
Ticket information will be announced soon.
Brought to you byt Stirthpot Productions. :D
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 04:56 PM
Man this is the slowest public debate I've ever seen. Ten posts from the gallery and still nothing. If something doesn't happen soon Rhett is going to show up and break up the fight before it ever happens. ;)
Kind of reminds me of Twoputt. In high school he always had his fights on the church grounds. That way either a bunch of old ladies or God would come over to break it up before it ever got started. :o....Except for that one time those 2nd grade girls beat him up, that was more or less the just of it. :D
accidentalROLLER
Aug 29 2006, 05:00 PM
I wonder if the HOTB will really have $3,000-$5,000 added cash?
Many things don't add up about Alma Greens. You say $2,000 was paid out? According to the PDGA, the pro purse was $835, so the 5 Am divisions were paid out a total of $1,165? That doesn't make any sense. In fact, its not true. And you said you raised an extra $1,000 from sponsorships for the tourney? Let's do the math:
10 Pro's x $47 = $470
14 Advanced x $37 = $518
8 Ams x $27 = $216
11 Rec/junior x $17 = $187
Total: $1391+$1,000 "added cash" = $2391
Pro payout was $835 and we'll over estimate am payouts at $500 totalling: $1235
So, my question is.....was there really any added cash? Tom, you said you paid out $2000, so where is the other $765?
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 05:01 PM
Hey terd, there was three of them and one of those was at least 4 ft tall. I never saw it coming.
:mad:
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 05:33 PM
Well that's what you get for offering your milk money to "working" girls. :cool:....You were a disgrace to the entire prefab. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 05:39 PM
Don't forget the $5 fee for each player back to the PDGA.
twoputtok
Aug 29 2006, 05:40 PM
Well that's what you get for offering your milk money to "working" girls. :cool:....You were a disgrace to the entire prefab. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Yea, but once they had show-n-tell day and you brought your mom's toy box to show, all was lifted from me. :D
sschumacher
Aug 29 2006, 05:48 PM
And here up until that time I thought a diafram was just some type of weird rubber mini frisbee to play "fetch" with the dog. ;)
jeffash
Aug 29 2006, 07:29 PM
Written by Tom Pitchford Jr
Friday, 21 July 2006
This will be the 1st official announcement for the USDGC spot for 2007. A series of 6 events will take place in Arkansas to determine the 2007 representative for the USDGC.I've spoken to several people in the state and have come up with what I hope to be a fair and interesting series of events.My main goal it to stir up our state and put the best golfer in the position.The winner must be a current PDGA member,And a resident of Arkansas.Each one of these events chosen will be PDGA sanctioned as well.The events are as follows,(Exact dates have not been set for so i've chosen to specify the month instead)#1 will be the 11th Annual Hell on the Border in Ft Smith AR scheduled for Sept of 06(2 day B Tier) #2 Clarksville Ar Oct 06 (1 day C Tier) #3 the 2nd annual Northshore Invitational in Fayetteville Ar early April 07 (1 day C Tier) #4 Hot Springs AR mid to late April 07 (1 day C Tier) #5 Arkansas State Championships in Little Rock AR May 07 (2 day B Tier) #6 3rd Annual Alma Greens in Alma AR June 07 (2 day B Tier)The top 8 overall scores will play an 18 hole event to determine the winner.If an event is missed (Say you hit 5 of six) Par plus 10 strokes will be added to your overall score.So you should plan on attending every event on the schedule if your interested in the spot.HERE'S THE WINNERS PURSE.A percentage of each event in the series will be set aside for the winning spot.This will be given to the series winner to assist in attending the USDGC Tournament.A one day 18 hole playoff will be set up for the top 8 players of the overall series (Scores will be washed and the winner will be the top score of that one event)This Playoff will be of no cost to the 8 finalist.If 1 of the 8 decide NOT to show and play.Then the next best score will be in the final.The specific location of the final 18 has not been determined as of yet.It should be located central and will as well be a new layout for all to see.The purse at the end of the series is to add intrest to those of you who could not make it without assistance.This should pull out the BEST players in our state.I will soon post the exact dates of the events listed.Good luck!
<font color="green">So every player in the 6 "Series" tournaments will be required to contribute a portion of their entry fee to the "Winners Purse"- even players that don't want the State bid?
What about out-of state players that aren't "Series" participants?
Another concern is that the 8 "playoff" finalists aren't required to contribute to the "Winners Purse" in order to play in the 18 hole playoff.
The majority of the contributions to the "Winners Purse" will be from players that either didn't make the final 8, or had no interest in the bid.
6 qualifying tournaments for 8 spots- then it's all decided by an 18 hole playoff?
I suggest that before the first series event you have:
1. Announced the % that each series event will be contributing to the "Winners Purse".
2. Announce the date of the Final 18 hole playoff.
3. Announce the location of the Final 18 hole playoff</font>
accidentalROLLER
Aug 29 2006, 07:40 PM
Don't forget the $5 fee for each player back to the PDGA.
Isn't that only for non-PDGA members?
That doesn't figure into payout anyway.
3902
Aug 29 2006, 09:46 PM
I tried to post the actual report but it won't do it.So i'll try this way.(If anyone would like to view the original your welcome to come to my house and see it as well)OK,2006 PDGA TOUR EVENT SUMMARY.Cash sponsership,Allen Canning $350.00,Shell Super Stop,$100.00,Tyler Transportation $100.00,Edward Jones $25.00,Meadors Lumber $50.00,Shelter Insurance $50.00,King Realty $100.00,Trophies Unlimited $200.00,Alma Printing $20.00,Pat Satterfield Realty $50.00,Coleman Pharmacy $20.00,Precision Graphics $200.00.(Now Trophies and Precision were added to this list BUT this was in consideration for the work they did for us.)$1,265.00. Merchandise contributed as well.Twisted Flyer $75.00,Wilson Bros Oil Change $40.00.Non Cash $115.00.STATEMENT OF INCOME AND EXPENSES.Income,Gross Pro Entry Fee $470.00,Cash Sponserships $1,265.Gross Amature Entry Fee $950.00,Gross Junior $252.00,Non Cash Sponsership Value $115.00.$5.00 Fees from Non Current Members $70.00.Ace Pool Collected $100.00.Total Income $3,222.EXPENSES.Amature Actual Prizes Cost.$700.00.Sponser Costs,Signs Banners Shirts.$200.00.Player Fees to PDGA $94.00.Non Current Fees $70.00.Ace Pool,$100.00.Sanctioning & Insurance.$100.00.Total Expenses $1,264.00.Net Profit or $1,958.(TD Fee is BLANK btw)OPEN PRO DIVISION.Field size 6.PROPOSED PAYOUT1st Place $239.00 Adjusted $325.00.2ndPROPOSED $143.00 Adjusted $135.00.Master Pro.4 Players.1st Place Proposed $190.00 Adjusted $205.00 2nd Proposed $114.00 Adjusted $115.00.Advanced Total Players 10.1st Place Proposed is blank for all divisions.Adjusted go.$175.00 $108.00.$108.00.$40.00. $40.00.They decided to split the winnings.Advanced Women Field 4 1st$146.00 2nd $97.00.Intermediate.Field 7.1st $44.00 2nd $32.00 3rd $22.00 4th $13.00.Rec Field 7,$66.00,$49.00,$34.00,$20.00.Boys Junior.Field 4,$80.00,$76.00,$52.00.NOW! If you've never filled one of these out you don't understand how confusing it can be.(Those who have done this can agree)The system automatically shoots out numbers and modifies the calculations.(I paid someone to do this because I couldn't do it,YUP! I suck on computers)Now something that doesn't show is the money collected by the Mayor(And by now i'm sure someone is crunching numbers tryin to pick it apart)Doesn't matter.I always stated that if this area keeps it honest they'll be back.And i'll be Dagnabbited someone tried anyway.(You know there's words i'd love to use here but i've been in trouble once already)NOBODY Who collected in the division they played complained about the amount thay won.Matter of fact,I gave a couple extra dozen shirts away with prizes and Ring of Fire.The Skins? "Again",Mayor!and still a Small sacrifice.Now that i've tried to clear THIS mess up.(Which i'm sure "ONCE AGAIN" someone will pick apart)NOW,On to you Mr Ash.You called me a liar when I decided to play Open at Northshore.You were convinced I (On purpose)decided to at the last minute screw everyone .(I simply tried to stay off your card)AND,Playing another field is my option isn't it?Yeah you played better than I did that day,But who came home with more $$$And it seemes Eddy was enough to handle it.Ben Geren Blowout?I hadn't seen my 2 year old son in a while.(Far more important thank you very much)Besides,I was there.Helping Hudson with the payout etc.Someone i'm sure appreciated that.So your smack talk about dodging you that day was unnessessary to say the least.Didn't you win by shooting even?Wow!The playoff at your mini?I lost to you on the 3rd hole in a playoff with somebody else's disc.Man,Great accomplishment there.See here's the problem I have with you.It's not that your game scares me(Weak)It's the smack you talk to people wherever you go about me.Remember calling me as soon as I became coordinator?Remember the story about the Bloodless Coo?How everyone undermines you and your just sick and tired of how NW AR was doing things?Then you decide to join WAFDA.Wow great move.That really showed them didn't it?I knew right then what you were tryin to do.Didn't work did it.So to show the good folks of WAFDA how decent a person you were you gave them the $$$ from the original NW club.Control maybe?BUTT! NW AR was seeing what was going on down here and decided to go around you anyway.Loss of control.So now that your ploy to "Show Em"? didn't work.your back to NW AR.They're doing a fine job up there.Oh yeah THE? If you'd like to say your not talking about me in other areas.How did the story of the State Coordinator not helping at Am Worlds get back to me?Remember?I was out seeing my New Grandson?So QUIT? No way,Not yet.When the time comes someone else will take the time to do it.Besides i've never said I was gonna quit.If you can't play the tourneys designed to send a USDGC qualifyer so be it.And to whomever asked about playing our little C Tier instead of traveling.That's cool.You have that right.We're just tryin to get AR in the game.I'm very happy to see tourneys in our state.The percentage?All TD's agreed to 5 percent of the tourney to donate.(These TD's have a right to 10 percent don't they?)And if your wondering who helped me with this formula?Call Harold Duvall.I think he's a pretty qualified source of info don't you agree?I'm thinkin this is gonna be a good thing,Open forum and all.(BTW,FurDog.You Da Man :cool:WISE,I liked the Pay Per View idea)Politics,Bahh Hum Bug! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
jeffash
Aug 29 2006, 10:31 PM
Huh?
There are too many inaccuracies in the above post for me to get to tonight... :confused: :D
3902
Aug 30 2006, 09:14 AM
It is huh?Well it's just about like kicking a dead horse here.Here's what i'm gonna do.Exactley what i've been doing.Continue to promote,Continue to help put courses in the ground,Put bigger Tourneys together,And play some golf.Some will kick and scream,Most will enjoy.I,m sure i'm not the only one who's been thru this.I won't be the last.Jeff maybe you should run for coordinator .You can show the world how much better you could be at it.(My vote is for Jeff Ash for the next term of Ar State Coordinator)Now go ahead and slap your fifty million angles and accusations on here.I'm going to focus on HOTB.LaMastus is the TD btw.Don't have to worry about me ruining this one.Still trying to make top 50 in payout.This could happen boys and girls.Were pushin $2,000 added so far.Our goal is 3 to 5.Takes alot of work to get that kinda money involved.There again those of you who have ran a tourney would know.See Ya!
jeffash
Aug 30 2006, 09:45 AM
NOW,On to you Mr Ash.You called me a liar when I decided to play Open at Northshore.
<font color="red">WRONG! I called you a liar because at the two minute warninig you told Tommy Eddy and I, and the two Open players on our card, that there were four Masters players in our field when you signed up. There were only two when you signed up. You lied to Tommy and I both- no way around it. You were the last player to sign up and no one else changed divisions after you signed up. When you said there were four Masters players you were lying. Period.
If you didn't want to play with me that weekend why didn't you ask to be on a different card also.
I'll get the rest of your post later.</font>
3902
Aug 30 2006, 10:14 AM
I wasn't running the tourney.I ran from clear across the other side of the park,Signed up(Seeing that there were more Open than Masters)I decided to play the bigger field.Everybody knows mistakes were made that day.Like I said before,Mainly I was tryin to stay off your card.If you were paying attention,Why didn't you raise your hand right then and point out the problem?Wasn't my responsability to point out these mistakes.Here's the real problem.You thought Eddy would be an easier match.The weekend before with me had you a little shook up.Then when you lost(And you wouldn't have said anything if you'd won)you started complaining.Just like the Mayors Invitational.You knew there were only three of us playing.You knew before we started it was winner take all.You were cool with that until you lost.THEN you walk up to me and ask for second place money.Shawn knew this.He was cool with it.See Jeff,You start this when you loose.And when you loose you complain.You need to figure out a way to take loosing a little better.(Since you'll be doing alot of that now that you've gone pro /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif)Be a Pro,Come to HOTB.Show me once and for all who's the better Master.I can take it.If you win I will shake your hand and congradulate you on your win.Fair warning ,There will probably be 8 to 10 in our field this year.May be a little more than you can handle.And BTW,You had your shot at me last weekend on YOUR home course,You were there to play your sat morning mini,When you see Me,My Dad,and Tommy Eddy there you leave.What's up with that?
jeffash
Aug 30 2006, 10:25 AM
And BTW,You had your shot at me last weekend on YOUR home course,You were there to play your sat morning mini,When you see Me,My Dad,and Tommy Eddy there you leave.What's up with that?
I have no desire to play in any event with you.
I guess the question then becomes why did you leave before the mini ended?
:confused:
I'll get back to the rest of your BS later...
sschumacher
Aug 30 2006, 11:01 AM
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3902
Aug 30 2006, 11:22 AM
I didn't leave before it ended.There was a three way tie for second.Kelly Watson had it sewn up.Didn't hear us complaining about it.(Of course you didn't you weren't there)See there's another problem.Ask Kyle,or Colin.We all waited till we knew where the next group was,Then we bugged out.You of course needed to post some smart comment about something else you knew nothing about.Your diggin yourself a hole here.Next?(Furpuppy,I'll take a hotdog and a cold one.Make that two /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif)
jbolstead
Aug 30 2006, 11:43 AM
I didn't leave before it ended.There was a three way tie for second.Kelly Watson had it sewn up.Didn't hear us complaining about it.(Of course you didn't you weren't there)See there's another problem.Ask Kyle,or Colin.We all waited till we knew where the next group was,Then we bugged out.You of course needed to post some smart comment about something else you knew nothing about.Your diggin yourself a hole here.Next?(Furpuppy,I'll take a hotdog and a cold one.Make that two /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif)
You two are acting like two little girls. Take your differences somewhere else.
jeffash
Aug 30 2006, 11:52 AM
I didn't leave before it ended.There was a three way tie for second.Kelly Watson had it sewn up.Didn't hear us complaining about it.(Of course you didn't you weren't there)See there's another problem.Ask Kyle,or Colin.We all waited till we knew where the next group was,Then we bugged out.You of course needed to post some smart comment about something else you knew nothing about.Your diggin yourself a hole here.Next?(Furpuppy,I'll take a hotdog and a cold one.Make that two /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif)
I heard that Watson missed the putt that would have clinched the win, and that you missed the playoff because you had already left. :confused:
3902
Aug 30 2006, 05:01 PM
Just tryin to clear the air.Stinks huh?Oh well i've made my point.This topic is for those who've been finagled into misconception about myself and my so called wrong doings.So bring your girlie gateway tail up here for HOTB and take some of this Arkie $ home.I'll do my settling on the field as well.
jbolstead
Aug 30 2006, 05:54 PM
My girlie Gateway tail will be in a a wedding that weekend of HOTB. Otherwise, you could guarentee that someone other than an Arkie would take you cash, but that's normal :D
sschumacher
Aug 30 2006, 06:09 PM
Ok.... The studio called and the movie sequel for this thread has been cancelled due to lack of real action and drama. I thought we had a block buster going on. Twoputt was out selling pay-per-view tickets and everything. :(
You guys need to kiss and make up and maybe Hollywood will come looking for a Brokeback Ozark Mountain - Part II.
In the mean time what kind of odds will you guys give me on Twoputt winning HOB? :confused:.....I normally don't bet on that professional choker but with you all fighting and everything, this might be his chance to sneak by and grab some first place pro cash. :eek:
Then again I still think someday pigs will fly. :confused:
3902
Aug 30 2006, 09:57 PM
Call it GayWay Mountain,Starring some guy outta Texas and a Sheep. :eek:Odds on Wise outta be $42.00 to Nada. :DYour right,Pay Per View looks weak this week.I'm sure in a day or two you'll get Part Deux.This has run it's course.Now i'm back on the course.Gotta make sure that guaranteed Arkie money stays here you know.I'm gone!!!
jeffash
Aug 30 2006, 11:37 PM
Out of respect for Putt Like Thaigirl, I threw a dart at a dartboard covered with things Pitch has posted since he started this thread.
The dart hit this little gem:
And BTW,You had your shot at me last weekend on YOUR home course,You were there to play your sat morning mini,When you see Me,My Dad,and Tommy Eddy there you leave.What's up with that?
This is a good one because you can see exactly how Pitch twists the truth. The fact that someone would feel the need to do this- especially in a public forum like this- is troubling.
So you wanna� know what�s up?
I knew you were coming up for the mini Saturday because I read your post on Friday.
I got to the course at 9am- an hour before the 10am start.
I saw you immediately after I arrived as I was walking to 18�s trash can.
You were walking from the bathroom/pavilion to the parking lot.
I looked directly at you, and though you seemed to be avoiding eye contact, I�m sure you saw me.
As I was taping a flyer inside the trash can, you made a call on your cell phone (backup maybe?).
I had nothing to say to you, but you certainly had your chance to talk to me.
Then we both went to our vehicles.
You missed another chance for a chat while we were in the parking lot.
I got my bag, loppers, and hand scythe and went to work on some holes I hadn�t gotten to yet.
You are right about one thing- I did want to play that day- but not if you were going to. I had already told several people that on Friday, and that morning.
So here�s where it gets really good.
I get to the parking lot at 10am.
I see that Pitch is standing by #1�s tee-pad waiting for the mini to start
I put away my tools, and my bag.
I walk right by Pitch, and down #1�s fairway to talk to Tommy Eddy.
Not a word from Pitch, not a glance.
I meet Tommy Eddy halfway down #1�s fairway and we shake hands.
I asked Tommy why he made a decision that I didn�t agree with, and why I reacted to the decision he made the way I did.
Tommy, and I, talked for at least two minutes, shook hands and parted ways.
Tommy knew why I wasn't playing.
I walked back to #1�s tee-pad, and literally brushed past Pitch. No eye contact- not a word.
I asked if anyone needed flyers for MaceMan Doubles, and then I left.
The great thing about this Pitch classic is that there were several people that read this board, and many that don�t, that can verify every word I typed is the truth.
Pitch, I�m not going to touch the fact that you brought your dad into this one. You made it look like I pulled into the parking lot and, faced with the terror of having to pass the gauntlet of Pitch, Pitch, and Eddy, I fled in terror.
"When you see us you leave."- Yeah, that's exactly how it happened.
BTW- My home course isn�t Northshore.
Oh yeah... Your dad can beat up my dad.
racerb491
Aug 31 2006, 12:07 AM
2nd INTERMISSION
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superd
Aug 31 2006, 12:12 AM
wheres the dancing popcorn fur :p i'm hungry. need snacks need carbonated beverages. i have money. well i am short two bucks after playing a full round with pitch today. thanks for the welcome home whuppin' :D
3902
Aug 31 2006, 09:26 AM
Your welcome. :DJeff our disagreements or dislikes of one another doesn't have to affect when or where we play.I've never stated i'd not play if you were there.In fact,I welcome the challenge.It seemes childish you won't partake in events because i'm there.And in my opinion your the one who should be doing the approaching.After all,I'm not the one who has done the accusing.All i've done is try to run these events,Be an aggressive coordinator,and play as best I can off and on the field.What really gets me is countless days of missing work,Huge phone bills,Tons of fuel,And all I get is BS .Ben Geren is 18 holes because of a phone call I made.(Not 9 as they'd planned)Alma was a short little piece of nothing when I first saw it.(Shorter than you guys had seen it)Now we have a decent course with more improvments to come.Clarksville is in the ground due to this.The events?Can't you even be grateful we have them?Running tourneys is a new thing for all of us down here.You and a few others wanna pick all the little things apart.The fact that we even have these events is a major accomplishment.Now your area wants to pump it up.Great!But you wanna complain still.I have much respect for those of you who have made this movement.We need this growth.And I know with any growth there comes controversy.THAT even makes us better.We've learned from our mistakes and are becoming better at what we do.BUT STILL you wanna talk.I'm one of the most honest people you'll ever meet.BRUTALLY at times.You know the best feeling I get outta all of this?It's not the winning.It's the people I see out on the courses who don't even know me.The families,Friends who've just been turned on to this.I met a guy yesterday who'd just played his first round.This guy could throw 250.First time!He's so hooked it's not funny.THAT'S the best part of it all.So when a few rip at me over mistakes or disagree with what seems everything I do.It gets under my skin in a bad way.This is simple.If you don't like it,Do it better.Or just try and do it at all.No,You'd rather hang on to all the mistakes and pick it apart.I told you a long time ago to let it go.I tried to listen to your side before I judged.But a year and a half of actions is enough for me to decide anything about anyone.Here's the challenge I have for you.Come play HOTB.We can shake hands and start over.This is getting us nothing.This is doing nothing for our area.We would all be better off if we could work together.The same thing I said in the beginning.NOW,The balls definately in your court.I'm thru with this.
sschumacher
Aug 31 2006, 10:00 AM
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sschumacher
Aug 31 2006, 10:52 AM
Man.....I'm getting hungry but I don't want to miss the "Woody Woodpecker" cartoon.
twoputtok
Aug 31 2006, 10:56 AM
Leave it to you, wating on a Pecker cartoon.
superd
Aug 31 2006, 11:04 AM
just in time, can i have a little extra butter on my popcorn? :)
jeffash
Aug 31 2006, 11:07 AM
So now you want to kiss and make up?
You are unreal.
I believe I have made my point, and you have helped me do it.
One last example before the show ends...
Jeff our disagreements or dislikes of one another doesn't have to affect when or where we play.I've never stated i'd not play if you were there.In fact,I welcome the challenge.
Do you remember posting this?
NOW,On to you Mr Ash.You called me a liar when I decided to play Open at Northshore.You were convinced I (On purpose)decided to at the last minute screw everyone .(I simply tried to stay off your card)AND,Playing another field is my option isn't it?
Unbelievable! :D
Pitch,
There is no doubt that you have been crucial to the installation, and improvement, of several courses in this area.
You have been the driving force behind the tremendous increase in the number of PDGA events in this area.
That's all good.
But you don't need to keep shooting yourself in the foot by popping off on this discussion board- especially with veiled references to me.
You just can't seem to let it rest.
I don't like you.
Period.
The chance of us ever being friends is non-existent.
I am not going to post anything else about the reasons why I feel this way- unless you keep this BS up.
I haven't even posted the main reason why I developed such a strong dislike for you. :mad:
superd
Aug 31 2006, 11:22 AM
well hopefully both pitch and ash can both bury the hatchet over whatever issues that they have with each other and everybody can get back to enjoying the real reason we have this posting site.................DISCGOLF and DISCGOLF discussion. just please don't let any of this bs have any affect on either areas discgolf club or the game.
Pack_Mule
Aug 31 2006, 11:33 AM
Well i am really tired of reading this soap opera! Some one should say i don't like you more than you don't like me and shut up. Yall' have a great dislike for one another, we understand that. If you can't get along, don't that is one person in that world. Get over it. If you don't want to support HOTB great one person will not make that big of a difference. If you want to advertise added cash and skins and not follow through. That's really dumb and it makes not only you look bad but being the SC it makes arkansas look bad.
My .02
Barney
sschumacher
Aug 31 2006, 11:35 AM
If you had one of these maybe your wife wouldn't have to leave her kitchen open to the neighborhood 24/7. :o:D
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accidentalROLLER
Aug 31 2006, 11:47 AM
Can I be this "mayor" guy? I would love to be handed big wads of cash when I go to DG events. That would be sweet.
When can we offer up ideas about the 2008 USDGC AR Qualifying? Ganzel, Mayo, and I came up with a great idea that would reward local and national Arkansas Representation.
m_conners
Aug 31 2006, 05:02 PM
So next year the winner of this proposed "6 event series" goes to the 2007 USDGC? I like the idea of Arkansas having a series of events but won't that seriously limit the number of potential qualifying players?
Kevin McCoy ran an "okie point series" event a couple years ago and it was a total success...the players loved it! And you were not forced to make every event in order to stay in the series payout at the end of the season.
AlmaWillie
Aug 31 2006, 05:26 PM
I don't know enough about most of the talk on here to go into it one way or another. What I do know though is this.....
1. The skins that was "advertised" was done so by Tom as a "I hope to get the cash sponsorship in to do this with." The problem came when it got out and was being spread word-of-mouth that the skins idea was a done deal. I am sure not blaming anyone because word of mouth is our best resource to get info out by. We have all played the kids game, telephone, where you start on one end with one saying and see what comes out at the end. Same problem here...... Tom and WAFDA put it out as "We want to see it happen" it ended up as "It is going to happen" . It is very unfortunate that it didn't get the sponsorship, because it would have been awesome! But all the negative attention now makes it where anyone in the future will be afraid to even try it.
2. The "Mayor" did not pad his own pocket with the money that went to him from the Greens tourney. He took that money to the city council meeting and it went into the budget for the Park's Department. There has been a few things said in council meetings about cost at the course for the city. This was just a small way of showing that there is benefit to the course. It was not the amount of money that mattered just the show that there was money from it. I did not necessarily like seeing money from the tourney going that way, but I know that it was a soothing factor to some people in the city and that if that keeps my home course around I'm all for it. Sometimes the small things that hurt, keep from a bigger hurt down the road.
This is all I know about the subject so now I will shut-up. :D
evandmckee
Aug 31 2006, 06:03 PM
How exactly did McCoy's point system work? I don't want to speak for Pitch but I think his system was a colaboration of many ideas, he didn't just pull it out of his butt. If I'm understanding it right if you miss a portion of the series and you want to be in the running you receive par +10 strokes (Thats a better score than some of my rounds) Pointing out problems and not helping offer potential solutions doesn't help. The last thread trying to gather input on how to determine the State Coord. USDGC spot started well and turned rather nasty because of the strife that goes on between Pitch and Ash. I imagine alot of people liked it when the thread stopped but because of the bickering the real issues were never discussed, kinda like this thread. I'd bet if there was some SERIOUS discussion on what's fair that it would be taken into consideration. The existing system should be etched in stone to avoid any possible confusion or misunderstandings in the future I think nothing should be left vague or "to be determined later". I think that 2005 had some controversy and it was done last minute, let's learn from this and send our state's most qualified to 2007. Collin, don't worry about 2008 lets hear ideas that can be utilized about 2007. Our SC is trying to do his best and all anyone can do is complain - lets hear the Ideas, there's alot of highly experienced good people on this board so help this fledgling state grow...please
letho
Aug 31 2006, 06:10 PM
How exactly did McCoy's point system work? I don't want to speak for Pitch but I think his system was a colaboration of many ideas, he didn't just pull it out of his butt. If I'm understanding it right if you miss a portion of the series and you want to be in the running you receive par +10 strokes (Thats a better score than some of my rounds) Pointing out problems and not helping offer potential solutions doesn't help. The last thread trying to gather input on how to determine the State Coord. USDGC spot started well and turned rather nasty because of the strife that goes on between Pitch and Ash. I imagine alot of people liked it when the thread stopped but because of the bickering the real issues were never discussed, kinda like this thread. I'd bet if there was some SERIOUS discussion on what's fair that it would be taken into consideration. The existing system should be etched in stone to avoid any possible confusion or misunderstandings in the future I think nothing should be left vague or "to be determined later". I think that 2005 had some controversy and it was done last minute, let's learn from this and send our state's most qualified to 2007. Collin, don't worry about 2008 lets hear ideas that can be utilized about 2007. Our SC is trying to do his best and all anyone can do is complain - lets hear the Ideas, there's alot of highly experienced good people on this board so help this fledgling state grow...please
Basically it was you got points for the events you played kind of like the Southern Nats format. It did not require for you to play every event that was part of the series.
Hope this helps.
evandmckee
Aug 31 2006, 06:23 PM
Thanks Thong, makes some sense, why not just use PDGA points, or was it points only for Okie tourneys?
m_conners
Aug 31 2006, 06:28 PM
We used a point system created by kevin...I believe there were 10 total events, some were sanctioned and some were not.
I don't think it's fair to exclude a player from the USDGC running just because he/she misses one of the series events.
superd
Aug 31 2006, 06:37 PM
so give a 8 of 10 events to be included or something along that lines. we all know that it can be hard to get off work or get away from the kids or better yet get the kids.
BrokenPutt
Aug 31 2006, 06:39 PM
I am rather new to all of this and really have no idea why there is more beef than a slaughter house involved with all of this. I have met most of you guys and can honestly say that i have no problems with any of you (i've played multiple rounds with pitch and have only met ash a handful of times). I don't know if these posts are supposed to sway anyone into liking one of you more than the other. I know that I far as I am concerned i always reserve judgement for firsthand knowledge (if I didn't I would NEVER play with colin :D). Anyway I think that this is something that shouldn't be thrown out on this forum. The way I came to know all of you was through this forum. I can only imagine someone new being interested in the sport and wanting to participate reading this stuff and deciding they don't want anything to do with us. That is something that no one wants. I have no clue as to why you two hate each other so much, but I am sure that it doesn't make disc golf any more fun for anyone. If you guys wanna continue this, I would suggest keeping it away from eyes that might not understand that this is not how all disc golfers in AR behave. I hope I haven't overstepped my bounds here, but I know that if I had come across this 6 months ago I probably wouldn't be here and would've missed a lot of fun with some great guys.
About the USDGC:
When I first heard about Pitch's idea it sounded great to me, but discussion does reveal leaks in the dam. If there was a 1000 rated player in our area, would you expect him to play all of these tourneys? Would you rather him represent our area in larger tourneys where he would face stiff competition and possibly better prepare himself for USDGC? I think the idea currently being thrown around would boost participants at the AR touneys which is a good thing. But do you wanna punish a player for seeking better competition? The idea that Colin, Ganzel, and I threw around was using the PDGA points system. Maybe we could just use the points for the year, or points for the year with the AR tourneys weighted more than the out of state tourneys. None of this really affects me as I am nowhere near the level most of you guys are (maybe someday). I just think that it requires some serious thought as this is an awesome opportunity. Again, I'm the new kid so feel free to tell me that. I may be way off base here. :D
jeffash
Aug 31 2006, 06:42 PM
Evan,
You trying to make me look bad? :D
I offered these suggestions to try to keep potential problems from arising before the dang thing starts in two weeks- remember?
"I suggest that before the first series event you have:
1. Announced the % that each series event will be contributing to the "Winners Purse".
2. Announced the date of the Final 18 hole playoff.
3. Announced the location of the Final 18 hole playoff ."
You're not giving me credit for that, Evan. ;)
If Pitch isn's going to re-do the whole thing then he at needs to at least get those three things set in stone before the series begins in order to avoid any scent of impropriety
Hypothetically, one could begin play in the series only to find out the 18 hole playoff is going to be on his/her wedding anniversary.
It actually turns out to be 7 tournaments that you have to play in to get the State bid.
Even after going through all six events- it's all going ciome down to who plays the best 18 holes on a day that hasn't been announced, and at a course that is yet to be determined. Gosh, I hate to be pointing out problems, but if Pitch really wanted my input in these mattters... well, nevermind.
I still many other concerns about the series in it's current form, but I'll keep out of it.
I don't claim to speak for Harold Duvall, but I don't tbink what Pitch came up with was exactly what Harold had in mind.
superd
Aug 31 2006, 06:48 PM
nope not off base :) at least thats how i see it :D
accidentalROLLER
Aug 31 2006, 07:02 PM
Collin, don't worry about 2008 lets hear ideas that can be utilized about 2007. Our SC is trying to do his best and all anyone can do is complain - lets hear the Ideas, there's alot of highly experienced good people on this board so help this fledgling state grow...please
1. It's Colin
2. I thought that the 2007 USDGC Qualifying was already "carved in stone". I didn't know it was up for modification.
3. Who approved the Tournament Series thing? Was it a 1 man show? A wafda vote? Not to be negative, but it doesn't seem to have the ENTIRE state's best interests in mind....just W/NW Arkansas'.
evandmckee
Aug 31 2006, 07:16 PM
Jeff, not trying to not give you credit, I know that you brought some of these things up but too much else was brought up also - don't wanna get into all of that but the USDGC spot is important to the growth of this state on a national competitive level so I'll give my 2 cents on that, there is kinda 1 clause in the thing about the "if you miss one you get par +10 strokes"
that's at least trying to give some credit for the missed tourney, I'm just trying to help get ideas stirred up, another thing about the idea of the series is the money that's generated to send someone. I don't understand how a points thing will generate money and of course all of this has to be spelled out clearly to work. I'm not really experienced enough to come up with a perfect system, maybe by a combination of everyone's ideas it will help us come up with a clear winner, maybe we're trying too much too quick but it is a cool idea to let someone earn the right to go to USDGC and also help them financially like ya'll have done in the past. Fayetteville has done well with money generating, WAFDA is struggling to make mini's and all really work, we need more competitive golfers and we're improving. I guess the Idea is for us to do it as a state and not just 1 local club.
evandmckee
Aug 31 2006, 07:23 PM
Collin, don't worry about 2008 lets hear ideas that can be utilized about 2007. Our SC is trying to do his best and all anyone can do is complain - lets hear the Ideas, there's alot of highly experienced good people on this board so help this fledgling state grow...please
1. It's Colin
2. I thought that the 2007 USDGC Qualifying was already "carved in stone". I didn't know it was up for modification.
3. Who approved the Tournament Series thing? Was it a 1 man show? A wafda vote? Not to be negative, but it doesn't seem to have the ENTIRE state's best interests in mind....just W/NW Arkansas'.
No offense is meant to you Colin, I don't know that the series is up for modification but it appears that maybe it should, I don't know this but I think it's kind of a right of the SC to determine how it's done and I honestly think that if good Ideas are brought out that Pitch might take them into consideration, I don't know this it's just my opinion - don't wanna rock the boat but I don't want it to sink either.
jeffash
Aug 31 2006, 08:21 PM
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keldog
Aug 31 2006, 10:11 PM
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3902
Aug 31 2006, 10:15 PM
Wow! Intrest Finally.As I stated,5% of each tourney will go into a pot(To be updated as each tourney goes by)Hell on the Border and Clarksville are in 06 because they would run late for 07.Clarksville is Oct 14th,The whole state IS involved.AR State Championships(Which hasn't been a PDGA event in years)And Hot Springs(To be hosted in late April)is in as well.Northshores' 2nd annual is in.(Early April.)Alma is in.ALL the areas have been covered.My thoughts are that Clarksville will host the final 18.(It is pretty much central to all areas)It boils down to this.8 players will play for this position.8 players who really want this spot.Now after all 6 events are over,The 8 who have intrest show up,Start from scratch.(Now can you tell me how big a rush that could be to know that only 18 holes are between you and that spot?Has anyone even seen the possability of that kind of payout?)This IS about AR tourneys and support of those tourneys.This will put more Arkies in motion.Step up boys,It's gonna get tough.The central area already knows of this.They are pretty much anti PDGA there.My hopes are that this changes that.People will step up for that pot.Your already seeing the benefits of this and you don't even know it.State Champs?Sanctioned!My goal may not please some of you.It's because now it's gotten a little tougher than flipping a coin(No disrespect to you Watson,I just know someone will take that one and run with it)Watson went based on merrit.Don't even try to mess with that one.So it has gotten tougher.Some of you probably don't even care about the spot.Aren't even going to try.But believe me,This one will be earned.The exact dates will be posted soon,(By this weekend)I mentioned that before.Oh and BTW.This idea bounced off alot of people,Ganzel,Duvall,Kittrell,LaMastus,Reynolds,Ed dy,Myself.Years of experience were taken into consideration.No One state does it the same.Bits and pieces of several states ideas came into play.This IS set in stone.If you want to go to USDGC.Play.If something is going on next door(Which I also need to mention.All sanctioned tourneys are looked at as well as possable so that they DON'T conflict)But IF something is going on that you just can't miss.Chances are that par plus 10 strokes won't kill you that badly.So there it is.USDGC QUALIFYER.Oh and as I also stated before.I will be attending them all.Maybe i've P Teeved some of you enough to just try and beat me out of that spot.I won't be going on a crap shoot.I'll be earning this one.Another thing i'd like to address is Worlds.It would be kinda nice to earn most the points you need to go locally wouldn't it?Would be even nicer to host them someday wouldn't it?You guys are missing the big picture here.We ALMOST have the facilities to host SN Championships,We ALMOST have the facilities to host WORLDS.All it takes is growth in this state.This is my best plan for the future of AR's chances at this.Has anybody thought of this?Ash,I tried to bury it with you more than once.Now the whole gang can see what your really about.My focus won't be on trying to please everyone all the time.It can't be done.This is politics.And as long as I have this position i'll try to do the best I can for the majority.And THANK YOU WILLIE.Finally someone gets it about Alma.I wonder how many people the Mayor has P'd Off in doing his job for 13 years.I have alot of respect for that man.He says something needs to be done in order to continue,I don't care who I upset.It's gettin done.ANOTHER thing your all missing.These guys on our side is so important.That would be like telling Judge Hudson,NOPE you can't have that because I told these guys I was gonna try to have a $90.00 skins match.That's all it was people.I was gonna TRY to set aside $90.00 for the top 4.Get over it.He got what he asked for.He dumped OVER $3,000 into that course just before the Greens.You guys need to consider that.$2,000 more will be put into it before next years tourney.And there WILL be a Final 9 Plus a Skins match for that one.Alma Greens next year will be a Two Day B Tier in 07.It will be as big if not bigger than HOTB.Those of you getting to these tourneys will be loving it.Those that don't? Oh Well.Your loss.I'd like to thank everyone who has supported me as Coordinator.I have made some good friends along the way.My supporters far out weigh the non supporters.Small price to pay for all that's been done.I hope you all enjoy AR's new events and adventures.See ya on the course.(Shot 7 down today at BG)You'd better freakin step up. :eek:
jeffash
Aug 31 2006, 10:28 PM
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keldog
Aug 31 2006, 10:29 PM
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jeffash
Aug 31 2006, 10:36 PM
;)
racerb491
Aug 31 2006, 11:35 PM
Well said Jason ;).
For such a young whippersnapper :).
3902
Sep 04 2006, 10:58 AM
I was trying to post all the info on the series yesterday but havn't heard back from a couple TD's.April is the month I need to cover.That would be Northshore and Hot Springs.I'm hoping to have those dates by today.Besides,I couldn't even get on the board yesterday.Something was wrong with the site.
accidentalROLLER
Sep 04 2006, 11:39 AM
Added Cash all over the place!
3902
Sep 04 2006, 01:19 PM
Yes indeed!We'll be throwin some around today at BG.Wanna add some more?Say 3:00.
accidentalROLLER
Sep 04 2006, 07:30 PM
I was gonna come down to BG and throw around some added cash. But at the last second....the mayor needed something to show the city, so I crapped in his hand. However, the added cash had to go to someone who really needed it, my girlfriend. So, sorry I promised some skins money.....but, you know.....had to grease some palms.....you know how it goes. You know how lucrative disc golf can be, gotta throw money at the right people.
3902
Sep 04 2006, 09:25 PM
Sounds like your pretty good at greasin your palm and not so good with your girlfriend and politics.Oh well,Leave the hard work to the men.You just work on that so called game of yours so you can come to HOTB and donate some more added cash. :D:D:D
accidentalROLLER
Sep 04 2006, 09:41 PM
Baaaa------zing!
3902
Sep 05 2006, 08:01 AM
If anyone can get me the date for Northshores 2nd annual the series will be posted.Available weekends are(3/31 4/1 then there's 4/7 & 4/8) Hot Springs has chosen 4/21 & 4/22.This is all I need the complete the 6 series event and i'll post the date for the playoff as well (Clarksville)Looks like the weekend after the 4th could be the one.Thanks.
jeffash
Sep 12 2006, 09:12 PM
I knew Pitch couldn't keep his mouth shut...
Our beloved State Coordinator just put this up on another thread.
Too bad he doesn't golf as good as he jacks his jaw.(Actually he's not very good at that either.) :eek:Texas? Hmmmmmm ;)
I was hoping I wouldn't have to call you out on one more thing, but you left me no choice...
From your State Coordinator thread-
Ben Geren Blowout?I hadn't seen my 2 year old son in a while.(Far more important thank you very much)Besides,I was there.Helping Hudson with the payout etc.Someone i'm sure appreciated that.
So you helped Dave decide to add Ace Pot money to the Pro Payout?
So you were aware that Dave allowed a player to move from Open to Masters- with only eight holes left in the tournament?
So you knew how that move would affect the payout- who would get screwed, and who would benefit?
Blowout Results (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5779#Masters)
I wish you would just shut up.
superd
Sep 12 2006, 10:41 PM
the moving af the player to a different division was MY MISTAKE. PITCH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. ash do not drag me into this. ASH DO NOT DRAG ME INTO THIS. i have tried to stay neutral in this whole pitch vs. ash affair, but after this comment i have definitly been swayed.
don't use the blowout as a cheap way to get at pitch. thats down and dirty.
jeffash
Sep 12 2006, 11:01 PM
Dave, I asked if he was aware of what you had done. It was a correctable mistake that impacted the payout that he stated he helped you with.
I have never brought this up on the board because you and I had already discussed it in private.
Pitch is the one who is down and dirty. Y'all can't get him to shut up, and he just keeps popping off.
He started up with me again on this board, and then he brags about helping you with the Blowout payout. You are, indeed, an innocent bystander. Just don't blame me for bringing up what he has done.
I am so ready for all of this crap to stop.
3902
Sep 12 2006, 11:20 PM
What's funny here is you think there was a $500.00 ace pot.70 something people?$500.00 ace pot?Nice.Have a nice trip.
jeffash
Sep 12 2006, 11:32 PM
What's funny here is you think there was a $500.00 ace pot.70 something people?$500.00 ace pot?Nice.Have a nice trip.
Wow, a response!
So, enlighten us.
Since you helped:
How much was the ace pot?
How much went to the Pro payout?
superd
Sep 13 2006, 01:39 AM
if your ready for this crap to stop, then stop, plain and simple. i don't care who is right and who is wrong. just stop.
jeffash
Sep 13 2006, 06:32 AM
I had stopped. Pitch seems to be the one who just won't let it go. As long as he keeps popping off on this board about me, you can expect me to respond in similar fashion.
Have you gone back and read his posts over the past few months since the Blowout? Have you read mine? He has incited this whole mess. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit by and let him do it.
You want it to stop?
You better hope that Pitch listens to you, or it never will.
3902
Sep 13 2006, 09:02 AM
Let it be known that i've sent mr ash a pm about this.This hopefully will resolve the situation.We'll see.Hudson,You did a fantastic job at the Blowout.I'm sure the next one will be even better.I for one appreciate your contribution to our state.I'm sure the feeling is mutual among all the others who played.Good Job.We are all likely to make mistakes now and then.It's to be expected.We have and will become better in the end for all of this.Thumbs up ya'll!!! :cool:
jeffash
Sep 13 2006, 09:36 AM
It was nice for Pitch to take the time to send me a PM. I would much rather communicate that way than through the public board, but...
I was so inspired by his PM that I may change my travel plans for this weekend and head on down to HOTB, instead. :)
twoputtok
Sep 13 2006, 09:43 AM
All better now?
http://www.goodmigrationsphoto.com/prairiedogs.jpg
3902
Sep 13 2006, 12:10 PM
Never been better as a matter of fact.Whatever it takes to get the compettion in town.These matters should be handled elsewhere.And I couldn't think of a better place than HOTB.We'll see who really wants that USDGC spot.I don't care if I go or not.But you will have to beat me for it :DRemember,There's already $200.00 in the overall pot.I don't wanna predict what I think the total pot will be after all the events are played.Or say how much i'd like to see in there.Some people might lash out at me over that one.Well what the heck,I"D LIKE TO SEE THE OVERALL WINNER OF THE USDGC SPOT FOR AR COLLECT $1,000 FOR HIS OR HER TRIP .Now let's see if WE can make that happen.Anything wrong with me wantin the winner to be totally set up?ALL EXPENSES PAID? Hmmmmm ;)
keldog
Sep 13 2006, 01:38 PM
It was nice for Pitch to take the time to send me a PM. I would much rather communicate that way than through the public board, but...
I was so inspired by his PM that I may change my travel plans for this weekend and head on down to HOTB, instead. :)
All better now?
http://www.goodmigrationsphoto.com/prairiedogs.jpg
I hope you do come to Ft Smith,I took out two EX/World Double Champions last weekend :eek:,I need more ;).Plus you can see the foot I'm going to Put On TwoPutt after he leaves Ft Smith they'll call him ThreePutt :mad:
See you this weekend :p
twoputtok
Sep 13 2006, 03:32 PM
You took out two ex-worlds champs?
Well, I took out all three according to you. :o
And you need to get ready for more of the same this weekend.
You, Pitch and Ash can all play together on the last card. That seems to be where to former champs like to hang out all weekend. :o:D:D:D
jeffash
Sep 13 2006, 04:05 PM
I'm amazed how quickly Twoputt forgot about Emporia... ;)
twoputtok
Sep 13 2006, 04:53 PM
There was no one there to see it but you and know one listens to you anyhow. :D:o:D
keldog
Sep 13 2006, 05:13 PM
and I'll be adding it up on the back of the scorecard
all them strokes you get :p
3902
Sep 13 2006, 05:18 PM
Handicapps' I want a handicapp.Think i'll see if the Masters can get golf carts. :p
twoputtok
Sep 13 2006, 05:21 PM
Well, I'll make it easy on you then and make sure you don't have to take your socks off to do the math. :o
3902
Sep 13 2006, 05:23 PM
:D
jeffash
Sep 13 2006, 05:40 PM
There was no one there to see it but you and know one listens to you anyhow. :D:o:D
They listen, and they talk...
http://www.wegotcards.com/cards/rude/mood/paranoid.GIF
3902
Sep 14 2006, 09:02 AM
Now that pretty much covers it.
keldog
Sep 14 2006, 09:13 AM
:D
jeffash
Sep 14 2006, 09:21 AM
I know it looks like I'm hiding under a Roc, but that's really a Comet. :cool:
m_conners
Sep 14 2006, 12:19 PM
Ash, so are you playing HOTB this weekend?
jeffash
Sep 14 2006, 12:28 PM
Conners, you have a short memory. :p
I thought we discussed that last night... ;)
m_conners
Sep 14 2006, 12:53 PM
It was nice for Pitch to take the time to send me a PM. I would much rather communicate that way than through the public board, but...
I was so inspired by his PM that I may change my travel plans for this weekend and head on down to HOTB, instead. :)
Yeah but I was refereeing to the above post. :D
sschumacher
Sep 14 2006, 04:41 PM
Have you ever wondered how far 2 people that don't like each other will go?
Which of the following do you feel applies?
1) Would they flip each other the bird and cut each other off on the highway?
2) Call the Mormon hot line late at night and disguise themselves as each other and ask that spiritual advisors come to the others house?
3) Freeze their paint balls before a paint ball fight?
4) Drive on by if they see the other stranded on the side of the road?
5) Buy ads on TV to trash each other like politicians.
6) Stamp how they really feel on a disc and throw it at each other?
7) Flush the toilet while the other is in the shower?
8) Take a big dump in each others cat box?
9) In a fight to the death would they pick guns?....Knives?...or Pillows?
10) Steal each others supply of Tampons?
11) Ring the other�s door bell and run away?
12) Drive by and hit the other with a fire extinguisher on a winter�s day?
13) Sit in the end zone at a NFL game with a big sign that says �I don�t like you!!!�?
14) Send each other a fruitcake for Xmas?
15) Throw on some baby oil and settle it in the ring?
16) Watch Road Runner cartoons to get ideas?
17) Read �Spy vs. Spy� comics in Mad magazine?
18) Paper and egg each others house?
19) Start a thread about it on the PDGA?
20) All of the above?
keldog
Sep 14 2006, 05:16 PM
Jeff why don't you come to Ft Smith and I'll show you why you should get a ROC :eek:
Pitch you better have that 360 degree roller working :eek:
Twoputt your #$*&$! is mine :eek:
LOL
3902
Sep 14 2006, 05:29 PM
So here I am thursday after work eatin my oreo cookies(Gotta have that fix ya know)and I choke on them reading Watsons post.Sorry guys the 360 is out.And FurDog I liked Spy vs Spy.I'm sure glad someone else is talkin smack this week.Couldn't handle it if it were only Wise.I'm just gonna lay low and enjoy the events that are about to unfold.See if I get to talkin too much i'm likely to lock my keys in the car or beter yet not live up to the expectations i've laid out for everyone or even worse myself.Yup! My BS'n lips are sealed. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
keldog
Sep 14 2006, 05:36 PM
Yup! My BS'n lips are sealed. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
That would be a first :eek:
Man it going to be HELL ON THE BORDER this week :cool:
omegaputt
Sep 14 2006, 05:39 PM
Keldog you and wise up for a $ doubles round tommorow around 5:30
3902
Sep 14 2006, 05:41 PM
OK I choked on another cookie.Either I need to quit eatin while reading or stay off the board.It really gonna be Hell On D Border.Especially when ya'll get snot slingin and have to play golf.Flyers should be ready for the Eddy Bowl Part 1 by the weekend.Oct 14th,Don't forget!1 day C Tier. :eek:
keldog
Sep 14 2006, 05:43 PM
I would be,not sure about Twoputt.
Twoputt?
sschumacher
Sep 14 2006, 05:44 PM
My prediction........
Twoputt smokes poles and finishes tied to a tree. :o
sschumacher
Sep 14 2006, 05:46 PM
Pitchford.....Eat your mexican food before the round. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Keldog.....Wear earplugs. ;)
keldog
Sep 14 2006, 05:49 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/the_paddler/gallows.jpg
racerb491
Sep 14 2006, 07:44 PM
Good job on the top 20 Furdog :D. Need to send a copy to lateshow.
Let see who's laughing it up come sat.