Angst
Aug 28 2006, 06:01 PM
Or would the rounds not be rated at all.

Tournement had five 9 hole courses.
We played 1 round on each course, plus one additional round.

ck34
Aug 28 2006, 06:12 PM
To get ratings, the TD should submit the results as 18-hole layouts by combining scores for two 9s, otherwise no round will be rated. This is how some TDs have gotten ratings when they used 12-hole courses twice. They reported the rounds as 24-hole scores.

magilla
Aug 30 2006, 01:22 PM
To get ratings, the TD should submit the results as 18-hole layouts by combining scores for two 9s, otherwise no round will be rated. This is how some TDs have gotten ratings when they used 12-hole courses twice. They reported the rounds as 24-hole scores.



Why is that? :confused:

Shouldnt the formula work regardless of the number of holes played? :p

How are 27 holes dealt with? :confused:

The ratings do show in the "Online Scoring"....If it can be done there, then "Official Ratings" should be possible as well. ;)

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 01:35 PM
It's the same reason half time stats or 5 inning stats aren't blended with full game stats in other sports but overtime and extra innings games are. The online software is not supposed to calculate round ratings for fewer than 13 holes so I'll have to have Dave check into it. It's not that the math won't work for fewer than 13, but it's a decision not to include stats for less than a certain percentage of a complete game. Two half games (9 holes) combined to make a full game to calculate stats is no problem.

magilla
Aug 30 2006, 02:01 PM
So then for "Official" ratings the TD needs to Submit as 27 holes on Sat(3 - 9's) and 18 Holes on Sunday (2 - 9's)

Seems fair...the averages remain the same...

BUT - There ARE ratings online AND they "jive" as for 9 holes....If the default was "13 or more" the ratings would be WAY OFF... /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 02:04 PM
I just edited my above post after checking into it. Dave, Theo and I didn't write the online software so they'll have to dig in and correct it. It would be perfectly fine to submit the results as an 18-hole and a 27-hole round.

par54whereareyo
Sep 02 2006, 01:20 PM
So, a round of 27 holes could be reported as 2 rounds? A round of 14 holes and a round of 13 holes? Has this ever been done?

ck34
Sep 02 2006, 01:27 PM
A 27-hole round could probably be submitted that way. But usually situations where say a 14-hole layout is played twice before a break, the round is entered as 28 holes rather than individual 14s.

paerley
Sep 04 2006, 01:48 AM
Also, splitting a round would only add a benefit if you could guarentee that all the scores where in the right columns. Also, lets say mid round it starts raining, you could see some wild rating fluctuations, where a group played some hole(I'll use 12 for this example) and another group started on 13. If hole 12 is simple when there's no rain (like the fairway becomes a river you have to throw around), then the first group had a completely different hole to play. While this is true no matter how many holes that were shot, the split would end up causing a wide fluctuation between the two halves. In theory (and probably in practice) the average of the 2 rounds would average out to what it would have been if it had been submitted as 1, but you're also getting both double rated, which could bump a round out of your double rating. Also, it could increase your standard deviation unjustly.