scooop08
Aug 26 2006, 10:09 AM
Did anyone see the thing yesterday with Tiger Woods where he hit his shot onto the club house but was not out of bounds because it is a removable object so what is the rule in discgolf if you land on something like he did?
ck34
Aug 26 2006, 11:11 AM
If the place where Tiger landed was a golf cart in disc golf and the golf cart was IB, our disc golfer would just play from the spot where the disc landed in the cart. But the cart could be moved, assuming it wasn't there before the round started. If the person in the golf cart actually picked up or deflected the disc, it would be marked where it was touched. Or the player could take a rethrow without penalty if it looked like the cart person intentionally deflected it.
There's no rule in disc golf where a player gets a drop on an arc the same distance away from the pin like Tiger got. However, I was once given a lie the same distance from the pin (~100 feet) on an arc from the basket. I had taken a stance on a rotted log, and stirred up a nest of ground bees. There's no way I could play from that location. So the group gave me a lie about 150 feet away from the nest but still the same distance from the basket as casual relief with no penalty.
scooop08
Aug 26 2006, 11:20 AM
See thats what I was wondering because with that building being temporary I don't remember having any at tournaments that I have played in where you could land but thought I would ask.
ck34
Aug 26 2006, 11:47 AM
The clubhouse he landed behind was permanent. He got the drop because the temporary grandstand was still in line between his lie and the pin if the building was not there. If Tiger's shot landed there without the grandstand being there in daily play, he would have had to play it from there. In disc golf, players would not get relief from a temporary tournament structure unless a drop zone was specified in advance by the TD.
james_mccaine
Aug 28 2006, 07:19 PM
I've been searching cause I'm pretty sure it exists, but I cannot locate it. Where is the rule that addresses dangerous things like bees, snakes, cougars in your lie?
gnduke
Aug 28 2006, 09:17 PM
803.05.C
Harmful insects or animals are in the list of casual obstacles from which you may obtain relief.
Parkntwoputt
Aug 28 2006, 09:54 PM
So, I get reliefe from bees. Which is good because I am deathly afraid of them. I will back up 300ft just to get away from bees.
I am screaming little girl scared of those worthless creatures, shudder.
krazyeye
Aug 28 2006, 11:39 PM
Fire ants could be used to get one into a favorable lie then correct?
AviarX
Aug 28 2006, 11:42 PM
not sure it will make a difference, but i used to be scared of them like crazy and a Southeastern Native American Indian story helped me.
(paraphrasing as best i can from memory:)
once bees had no stingers. they were getting trampled a lot and their honey was alwaya getting stolen. they appealed to the Great Spirit to help them lest they become extinct. The Great Spirit answered their prayers and gave them a stinger but there were stipulations involved. The stingers should never be used except to defend themselves and the tribe, and further -- they should always buzz to warn people to move away and then only sting as a last result. further, they would die when they used their sting.
not sure it helps and i think wasps can sting without dying -- but it is an interesting story and it does sort of de-demonize them and show they sting only when threatened.
for what it's worth.
ck34
Aug 29 2006, 01:46 AM
Since we're diverging on the thread topic, here's an interesting situation that ocurred Sunday playing an unsanctioned retro event where some targets were taped trees and benches. I holed out by striking the trunk with my putt. Another player went to play and accidentally putted from my disc on the ground from my completed putt. At first we thought a 2-shot penalty for playing from another player's lie. However, since my disc wasn't in play any more, it was only a practice throw.
(I finished ahead of him by one)