Aug 22 2006, 07:37 PM
JDGF Duncan Open to be held Oct 7-8 should not be missed by any disc golfers. Especially all you C-Tier haters! This event is going to be EPIC .

Why you ask ???????

Here is the skinny... Almost 10k feet on a well manicured ball golf course. Par 68........ Yes 68!!!!! There will be camping available on site ( yes, the golf course ) Players party Saturday night, 2 live bands, all the food you can eat. A couple of frosty cold kegs-o-beer, and all the excitement you can handle.

This facility is contemplating making this course permanent, it will all depend on attendance. This could very well be the most exciting disc golf you have ever played. Plenty of O.B. and a course design that will reward the SMART disc golfer. This posting is a little pre-mature , but you will not want to miss this. Please reference JDGF.org for pre-registration. Also, feel free to pm me for further info.....

SERIOUSLY, you will kick yourself if you do not make this one!

Not only are the JDGF events well run, but the CTP'S and Ring-o-Fire prizes are well worth it! Every event a basket is given away, just ask Shelly Workman of Norman,Ok. Nice putt Shelly! And I am sure there will be some " Daryl Towels" given away also ( You Okies know what I am talking about ! ).

You wont regret this one!

Melissa
Aug 22 2006, 10:37 PM
Sorry dude...Tommy T is gettin' married that day...

shakenbake54
Aug 23 2006, 12:08 AM
Looking foward to it Lee. See ya in Duncan

krazyeye
Aug 23 2006, 12:12 AM
Hey, which golf course? Not the country club.. Twin Oaks?

Aug 23 2006, 10:30 AM
twin oaks baby!
yeah!

Aug 23 2006, 10:41 AM
Looking foward to it Lee. See ya in Duncan



HELL YEAH!

Alacrity
Aug 23 2006, 10:48 AM
Lee,

I am going to try to make it. This sounds like a lot of fun.

Jerry

Aug 23 2006, 10:57 AM
I would really like to see the 2006 Am World Masters Champion @ this one! Come on down Jerry! Or is it up??

oklaoutlaw
Aug 24 2006, 11:43 PM
Lee, Thanks for starting thread with this great post. I want to make sure we get all the right info for this great time!!!
JDGF Duncan Open to be held Oct 7-8 should not be missed by any disc golfers. Especially all you C-Tier haters! This event is going to be EPIC .

<font color="blue"> This has been renamed to the TWIN OAKS OPEN to show our appreciation to the owners of the ball golf course </font>

Why you ask ???????

Here is the skinny... Almost 10k feet <font color="red"> Approx. 6800 feet </font> on a well manicured ball golf course. Par 68........ Yes 68!!!!! There will be camping available on site ( yes, the golf course ) Players party Saturday night, 2 live bands, all the food you can eat. A couple of frosty cold kegs-o-beer, and all the excitement you can handle.

<font color="blue"> Players, families and guests, party Saturday night. Family members and guests pay $5 for food and drink, players food and drink are included in their entry fee. We will have at least 2 live bands probably 3 or 4, which will make it even better and yes a couple of frosty keggers for those of legal age to partake and since I don't, someone can have mine. </font>

This facility is contemplating making this course permanent, it will all depend on attendance. This could very well be the most exciting disc golf you have ever played. Plenty of O.B. and a course design that will reward the SMART disc golfer.

<font color="red"> There are very many risk reward decisions to be made in the round </font>

This posting is a little pre-mature , but you will not want to miss this. Please reference JDGF.org for pre-registration. Also, feel free to pm me for further info.....

<font color="blue"> Register On-Line Here (http://www.jdgf.org/registration.aspx?id=13) - OR - You can Print Registration Here (http://www.jdgf.org/PrintableRegistration.aspx?id=13) </font>

SERIOUSLY, you will kick yourself if you do not make this one!

Not only are the JDGF events well run, but the CTP'S and Ring-o-Fire prizes are well worth it! Every event a basket is given away, just ask Shelly Workman of Norman,Ok. Nice putt Shelly! And I am sure there will be some " Daryl Towels" given away also ( You Okies know what I am talking about ! ).

<font color="blue"> This is the beginning of a great event, there will be many give-aways, a basket or two, lots of plastic and not to mention at least $1,000 added to the pro purses, $500 to the Open and $500 to the Masters </font> <font color="red"> OH WAIT!!!! :eek:THIS IS A "C TIER" WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY ADDED TO THE PURSE!!!!! :eek: Oh Well, I guess we will do it anyway :D</font>

You wont regret this one!



Thanks for the post Lee, we are looking forward to a GREAT time.

krazyeye
Aug 25 2006, 12:07 AM
I will be doing my best to make this event and spread the word in Texas.

m_conners
Aug 25 2006, 12:53 PM
Wow, this tournament sounds awesome!

Aug 25 2006, 02:50 PM
MC make sure you get your arse down for this one!
And bring all of your Okie hoodlum friends too!
That players party is going to be sick! If I dont see you, Olheiser, pennington, Jake Christianson, John Ashley and all your kick #$*&$! locals out there there will be hell to pay! :D
Hope to see you guys there!
This one is going to be FRIGGIN AWESOME!

m_conners
Aug 25 2006, 03:03 PM
I will start spreading the word here in T-Town.

If you have a flyer I will post it out at Mohawk.

Billy_Ho
Aug 25 2006, 04:48 PM
YEah this tourney sounds pretty sweet....Hey Conners can I ride??

m_conners
Aug 25 2006, 05:45 PM
Lets do this!

Looks like the JDGF is bringing it STRONG this season!!!

Aug 28 2006, 02:04 PM
It will be an awesome end to the JDGF 06 series!
For those whom are not familiar with the bonus program Tom runs, I suggest you investigate. I will be there with a big smile on my face ! Looking forward to this one.....

oklaoutlaw
Aug 28 2006, 07:56 PM
Hey Lee,

Just thought you'd want to know where you stand. Only 3 qualified in Adv. and Josh and Britt are breathing down your neck :o It will be close when it is all said and done.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Lee</td><td>Letts</td><td>25</td><td>45</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>135
</td></tr><tr><td>Josh</td><td>McIllwain</td><td>56</td><td>15</td><td>25</td><td></td><td>96
</td></tr><tr><td>Britt</td><td>Browning</td><td>20</td><td>25</td><td>35</td><td></td><td>80
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

If there's a good Adv field, it could be any one of the three of you guys.

Aug 30 2006, 02:42 PM
I know who I am betting on!

CB2
Aug 30 2006, 03:13 PM
How do you qualify?

Aug 30 2006, 03:33 PM
SORRY JOSEPH, you get to wait untill next year!
To qualify , it is mandatory to attend all of the events.
If I am not mistaken, 10 dollars from every entry in your division is put in a bonus pot. At the end of the series the points leader per division wins the bonus money ( or plastic ) . Scores are determined by how many people you beat! Hey Tom, is it winner takes all , or will it pay out all whom qualify?

oklaoutlaw
Aug 30 2006, 04:36 PM
Lee, all who qualify get paid part of the pool, be it cash or plastic. In Pro divisions get cash, Am divisions get merchandise. The Adv. division will pay out in the following manner:

1st = 50%
2nd = 30%
3rd = 20%

of the pool. And Lee, in the am divisions, only $5 per player goes in, in the Pro division $10 per player goes in.

There you have it!!!

Aug 31 2006, 10:21 AM
Thanks for the clarification. That is inspiration enough to move up..... Someday!

oklaoutlaw
Sep 01 2006, 06:17 PM
The Registration forms will be available at Okie Dubs this weekend.
http://www.jdgf.org/2006_Twin_Oaks.pdf

Sep 06 2006, 10:44 AM
Hey Tom, will there be campfires allowed @ the camp site for the Twin Oaks Open?????????

oklaoutlaw
Sep 06 2006, 11:11 AM
Hey Tom, will there be campfires allowed @ the camp site for the Twin Oaks Open?????????



If we have no burn bans in effect, the owner of the property will start and maintain a bonfire. He has asked that no other fires be started since the camping area is directly adjacent to his house and the 14th fairway. As of right now, we have had enough rain that we should have a big bonfire. :D

Sep 06 2006, 12:46 PM
Perfect!!!!
Stupid question, will camping be available friday night?
I think my lovely wife and myself are going to get up friday afternoon. There will be doubles right????

oklaoutlaw
Sep 09 2006, 04:19 PM
Perfect!!!!
Stupid question, will camping be available friday night?
I think my lovely wife and myself are going to get up friday afternoon. There will be doubles right????



Camping will be available both Friday and Saturday and the course will be open for play on Friday after about 1:00 pm, and Friday afternoon you will be able to rent carts to ride, but Saturday and Sunday no carts will be available for rent.

oklaoutlaw
Sep 09 2006, 11:28 PM
We finally got the course measured and mapped. Just so you know, I kind of missed on the estimated distances, I told everyone I thought the course would be about 8,600 feet, but I was wrong....It is officially measured at 9,963 feet, and it is a true Par 70. This is going to be a great Championship caliber course that is fun to play and very challenging.

The owners of the course are very excited about this tournament and have been really promoting it to all their friends, telling them to come out and watch.

And if you didn't know, $500 is being added to the OPEN purse and $500 is being added to the PRO MASTER purse.

Each of the Am divisions, ADV., INT., & REC. will each have $250 in merchandise added and ADV. MASTER will have $100 added.

So that is a total of $1,850.00 added to the purse and EVERY registered player will also get a tournament shirt.

Hope to see everyone there.

Please remember to Pre-Register so we know how much food to order for the Players Party. Also, if you have any spouses, family or other guests that would like to come with you to the party that are not players, let us know and they can get in to eat and enjoy the music and evening for $5.00 each, except kids under 16 are free.

Oh and ID's will be checked for keg participation.

Sep 12 2006, 05:41 PM
This one is going to be sweet. PM me if you would like to see a course map. SICK! If you do not want to hear how awesome this one was, after the fact, I suggest you show up for this one!

Sep 25 2006, 12:53 PM
This one is getting close, hope to see a bunch of people there!

15353
Sep 25 2006, 01:57 PM
You said their will be no golf carts to rent on sat or sunday , my question is can you bring your own golf cart?

Sep 25 2006, 03:33 PM
I knew this one was coming. You are more than welcome to bring your own golf cart. Dont expect to use it during the
sanctioned rounds. Having a golf cart takes the physicality out of the " sport " . To use a golf cart, simply downgrades the effort required to play, thus surrounding the "sport" with a "game" mentality. I do know that all gallaries are welcome to follow on cart. But players, lace up your boot straps and get ready for a brisk walk.

Sep 27 2006, 11:21 AM
Just remember you said this when you get so chaffed that you are bleeding from your arse "sporty".

Sep 27 2006, 12:30 PM
Mabey the good floks @ Gold Bond Medicated Powder could sponsor this event, to help with the Baboon Arse!

15353
Sep 27 2006, 02:33 PM
chaffing can definatly be a problem........I heard you can use baby powder and lotion to help this problem........just what Ive been told......

Sep 27 2006, 02:40 PM
I was a believer in the baby powder, untill some Gold Bond Medicated Powder graced the presence of my back side. Its like an artic breeze on a chafed arse. Really recommend this stuff to all the Baboon Bottom Disc Golfers.

oklaoutlaw
Sep 29 2006, 09:43 AM
We now have 2 hotels that are offering a special rate for the tournament. The first is:

Day Inn - $56.00 + tax per night
2535 N. Hwy 81
Duncan, OK
(580) 252-0810
Mention the Disc Golf Tournament to get the rate.
They offer Pool and Breakfast and are 2 1/2 miles south of the course.

Duncan Inn - $40.00 + tax per night
3402 N. Hwy 81
Duncan, OK
(580) 252-5210
Located 2 miles south of the course.
Mention Disc Golf Tournament for the rate.

Just so everyone knows, here's what is being ADDED to each division:

Open - $750.00
Pro Master - $500.00
Adv. - $500.00
Int. - $500.00
Rec. $500.00

That is Cash in the Pro divisions and Merchandise in the Am divisions. For a total of $1,250.00 in Cash and $1,500.00 in Merchandise for a total value of $2,750.00 being added to the purse. This DOES NOT INCLUDE any CTP's, Ace Pots, or Ring of Fire cash or prizes.

We hope to see you there!!

baldguy
Sep 29 2006, 10:06 AM
I knew this one was coming. You are more than welcome to bring your own golf cart. Dont expect to use it during the
sanctioned rounds. Having a golf cart takes the physicality out of the " sport " . To use a golf cart, simply downgrades the effort required to play, thus surrounding the "sport" with a "game" mentality. I do know that all gallaries are welcome to follow on cart. But players, lace up your boot straps and get ready for a brisk walk.


This is a bit silly... how well you can walk is in no way recorded on the scorecard in Disc Golf. We write down the number of *throws* it takes to complete the hole, not how long it took us to walk it or how out of breath we were. Should we disallow the use of pull-carts since carrying a bag adds to the physical requirement for traversing the course? Should we also have a minimum weight requirement for that bag? By your logic, the player who carries only 5 discs for a round is not competing on the same level as one who carries 20, because the latter is being more "physical". That's ridiculous. The "physicality" of this sport is not diminished by the use of golf carts, if anything it helps players focus on the actual sport: throwing discs accurately.

I have played in a sanctioned tournament where I rented a cart. The course was almost as long as this one. To my knowledge, there is no PDGA rule (past or present) that rules out the use of a motorized vehicle. The only valid reason to deny cart usage is if the course does not permit motorized vehicles on its grounds. That is clearly not the case for this event.

I'd like to see a valid explanation for why carts are being disallowed... if you even have the authority to do so.

CAMBAGGER
Sep 29 2006, 10:09 AM
Valid points.

Alacrity
Sep 29 2006, 10:31 AM
Tom,

Sadly I will not be able to make this event. I really was looking forward to coming, but I have too many responsibilities at the homestead. I will be trying to make several of your events next year. E-mail me so that I can return the latest updates to the Scoring routine.

jerrypower@sbcglobal.net

oklaoutlaw
Sep 29 2006, 10:45 AM
You said their will be no golf carts to rent on sat or sunday , my question is can you bring your own golf cart?



Here's the real deal on carts:

The course only owns 25 carts. Break the down, 2 players per cart = 50 total players, so everyone else walks. I personally wouldn't want to be the 51st player to walk in and try to get a cart, I'd be upset that all these other people have them and I didn't get one. Not a level playing field. I discussed this matter with David Gentry, PDGA Tour Manager, and the position of the PDGA is (and I feel the same) <font color="green"> "If there are not enough carts for everyone playing to have one, then it is not a level playing field and no carts should be allowed." </font>

So, there are just not enough to go around. Maybe, if this becomes an annual event, we can round up enough carts for the future events and everyone can then ride and play with a cart.

So, come on down to Duncan, play some golf and enjoy the food music and games we have planned. If you want to bring your cart, fine you can use it to get around all weekend except during the round.

See everyone there!!!!! :D

oklaoutlaw
Sep 29 2006, 10:50 AM
Tom,

Sadly I will not be able to make this event. I really was looking forward to coming, but I have too many responsibilities at the homestead. I will be trying to make several of your events next year. E-mail me so that I can return the latest updates to the Scoring routine.

jerrypower@sbcglobal.net



You've got an e-mail

Sep 29 2006, 10:55 AM
I knew this one was coming. You are more than welcome to bring your own golf cart. Dont expect to use it during the
sanctioned rounds. Having a golf cart takes the physicality out of the " sport " . To use a golf cart, simply downgrades the effort required to play, thus surrounding the "sport" with a "game" mentality. I do know that all gallaries are welcome to follow on cart. But players, lace up your boot straps and get ready for a brisk walk.


This is a bit silly... how well you can walk is in no way recorded on the scorecard in Disc Golf. We write down the number of *throws* it takes to complete the hole, not how long it took us to walk it or how out of breath we were. Should we disallow the use of pull-carts since carrying a bag adds to the physical requirement for traversing the course? Should we also have a minimum weight requirement for that bag? By your logic, the player who carries only 5 discs for a round is not competing on the same level as one who carries 20, because the latter is being more "physical". That's ridiculous. The "physicality" of this sport is not diminished by the use of golf carts, if anything it helps players focus on the actual sport: throwing discs accurately.

I have played in a sanctioned tournament where I rented a cart. The course was almost as long as this one. To my knowledge, there is no PDGA rule (past or present) that rules out the use of a motorized vehicle. The only valid reason to deny cart usage is if the course does not permit motorized vehicles on its grounds. That is clearly not the case for this event.

I'd like to see a valid explanation for why carts are being disallowed... if you even have the authority to do so.



I have not authority, just opinions. Simple fact, Golf Carts take the sport out of Disc Golf. IMO, if you add a cart you merely become a member of a GAME. When endurance/longevity are factor's, then it become a sport. In a sport that is surrounded with the stigma of " lacking legitimacy " adding a golf cart during a sanctioned event basically contributes to that stigma. And if you think that " throwing disc's " is the bulk of our sport, you are mistaken kind sir. Some of the better golfers I know are able to seperate themselves from the pack because they are athletes first. They can endure heat, humidity, elevation, inclement weather, long courses, and so on...... Those are all elements of our beloved SPORT. Others that have the endurance to still shoot well, while YOU are catching your breath, is a critical aspect of the game. The one aspect that will seperate your 905 rated golfer from you 1005 rated golfer. By your logic, we should be inside an arena, in the air conditioning, getting fatter whilst we " focus on throwing disc's accurately ".This is a sport where the BEST man should win, based on his performance. I was merely suggesting that using a golf cart will dramatically alter the performance of the entire range of golfers. Most enjoy disc golf because it is a challenge, add a cart and the challange dramatically decreases. When all disc golfers promote this SPORT for what it truly is , a sport..... We may see some advancements in what we do...

By the way, your fictional disc golfer with 5 pieces of plastic, does have the endurance factor in their favor, they will also be short a disc or two when unforseen factors come into play. Thus giving you the advantage to you . " Fortune favors the prepared "

flyboy
Sep 29 2006, 11:27 AM
The course is a par 66.The chance of the course doing this design full time is slim to none.You cant start on hole 10, and make 18 holes out of it ,slow play will happen, and golfers will be upset fact.I offered my help last week and you said you had it all figured out..I do not think there is enough disc golfers to support this course.Way to much golf for 1 day, and now no carts ,way to much golf the 2nd day also.The course must be shut down the hole back 9 both days. Do you think the course is going to make up the difference by loosing golf?Tommorow fly 18 will have a 2 day event that does not shut down golf ,and has carts for all 74 players, both days ,just like golf and will be there for years to come with a 5 year contract.fully stocked bar and restaraunt..284 strokes for par for 2 days with no carts ...Can you say blister :oI am sure the women will just love this grilla style golf, last man, or women standing, wins the marathon.Follow success and success will follow ;)

oklaoutlaw
Sep 29 2006, 11:52 AM
The course is a par 66.The chance of the course doing this design full time is slim to none.You cant start on hole 10, and make 18 holes out of it ,slow play will happen, and golfers will be upset fact.I offered my help last week and you said you had it all figured out..I do not think there is enough disc golfers to support this course.Way to much golf for 1 day, and now no carts ,way to much golf the 2nd day also.The course must be shut down the hole back 9 both days. Do you think the course is going to make up the difference by loosing golf?Tommorow fly 18 will have a 2 day event that does not shut down golf ,and has carts for all 74 players, both days ,just like golf and will be there for years to come with a 5 year contract.fully stocked bar and restaraunt..284 strokes for par for 2 days with no carts ...Can you say blister :oI am sure the women will just love this grilla style golf, last man, or women standing, wins the marathon.Follow success and success will follow ;)



I have but one thing to say....You have no idea what the circumstances are here and you have no idea what is being accomplished. This was NEVER intended to be anything like your Fly18 and we have no intentions of doing what you propose to do. Also, from the beginning we did say carts were not going to be used or available.

Now, please go run your event in California and leave us alone.

baldguy
Sep 29 2006, 12:19 PM
By the way, your fictional disc golfer with 5 pieces of plastic, does have the endurance factor in their favor, they will also be short a disc or two when unforseen factors come into play. Thus giving you the advantage to you . " Fortune favors the prepared "


I can't agree more... I own a golf cart. I'm more prepared. The player who pulls a cart full of discs and a cooler, etc is also more prepared. The player who has dual straps instead of a single... more prepared. My point is this: where does it end? If we can say that we're going for an "even playing field" by disallowing the use of a motorized vehicle, then why can't we also say that every player must carry exactly 10 discs of exactly 175 grams each and exactly 2 liters of water in a bag that weighs a total of exactly 10 pounds with only one shoulder strap?

Also, I understand your point about changing the sport into a game, but I don't think a cart completely accomplishes that. The line is drawn between the two at the point where the competitor does not need to be physically involved. Games are competitions of the mind. Sports are competitions of the body (and usually the mind as well). As long as we're still throwing our plastic, it's still a sport. I get that you believe a more in-shape individual *should* have an advantage... and they always will. It goes back to your point about preparedness. If you own a brand-new revolution bag filled with champion plastic, carried with Dual Shock straps with room for 2 liters of water, but I only have a plastic wal-mart sack, no water, and a beat-up Scorpion... guess who has the advantage?

just because the course won't have enough carts to go around shouldn't stop players from bringing their own. Do I get to complain that you have a nicer bag? Is the course required to rent Revolution bags, Dual shock straps, and champion plastic to all players who didn't bring their own?

Sep 29 2006, 12:35 PM
Equipment is irrelevant. Hauling your equipment around in an electric cart, is where the topic become's relevant. Does anybody remember the Casey Miller issue with the PGA?

Someday, IF disc golf makes it big, the forementioned issues could arise. Does not the PGA dictate how many clubs are in the competitors bags????? There could never be a restriction of what plastic you throw, that makes sponsorship impossible. The only issue with an electric golf cart, is that it removes a major physical aspect from the sport. The closest thing we have to competing on a level playing field, is a defined set of rules. The TD has outlined that you will walk the course, thus establishing the rules. Bring your electric cart, I am sure it will be easier to swerve back to your campsite, as opposed to staggering after the players party!

Please honk if I get in your way, I will be the one staggering back to the campsite with the Manly Physical Prowess, and a big-ol' goatee ! :D

Sep 29 2006, 12:38 PM
Bald guy, after further review, are you refering to a pull cart or a Electric golf cart? I am talking about the electric golf carts........
Pull carts are great, for all you grand masters out there! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Sep 29 2006, 12:42 PM
Baldguy, also the duct tape holding my dual bag straps together is a lot nicer than yours!

baldguy
Sep 29 2006, 12:45 PM
I would argue that an electric cart is "equipment" just as a bag or a shoulder strap or a pull-cart is "equipment". It's simply a device designed to make it easier to get your discs around the course. I understand that he TD has made a ruling, and I respect Tom's decision even if I don't agree with it. I think there's a larger issue here, though. Either way, I have not decided on whetther or not I will attend this tournament. I can say that if I was allowed to use all of my equipment... it would be an easier decision.

baldguy
Sep 29 2006, 12:47 PM
Baldguy, also the duct tape holding my dual bag straps together is a lot nicer than yours!


just for that, If I do attend... I'm going to buy a new bag and a new set of straps before this event... and I had better not hear any complaining ;)

Sep 29 2006, 01:13 PM
Baldguy, also the duct tape holding my dual bag straps together is a lot nicer than yours!


just for that, If I do attend... I'm going to buy a new bag and a new set of straps before this event... and I had better not hear any complaining ;)



it's the indian not the arrow!
Me and my p.o.s. bag and straps are still going to play some stellar golf!

oklaoutlaw
Sep 30 2006, 11:01 AM
We picked up 2 more sponsors yesterday,

Gateway Discs is going to be a Tournament sponsor

and

Daryl Johnson is now our Ring of Fire Sponsor. DJ will also be running our ROF and if any f you remember the ROF from Okie Doubles, you have an idea what to expect!!!!

Sep 30 2006, 11:11 AM
Good news!
I would assume that the infamous " Daryl Towel " is going to be up for grabs in the ROF......

Sep 30 2006, 11:55 AM
Baldguy, also the duct tape holding my dual bag straps together is a lot nicer than yours!


just for that, If I do attend... I'm going to buy a new bag and a new set of straps before this event... and I had better not hear any complaining ;)



That should shave @ least 5 strokes a round.

oklaoutlaw
Sep 30 2006, 12:19 PM
Good news!
I would assume that the infamous " Daryl Towel " is going to be up for grabs in the ROF......



I think all the Daryl towels are finally gone, but I could be wrong.. :o.. You just never know what DJ will pull out... :confused: ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ... but I do know it is GOOD!!!! :D

Sep 30 2006, 12:21 PM
Good news!
I would assume that the infamous " Daryl Towel " is going to be up for grabs in the ROF......



I think all the Daryl towels are finally gone, but I could be wrong.. :o.. You just never know what DJ will pull out... :confused: ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ... but I do know it is GOOD!!!! :D



PULLING OUT IS ALWAYS GOOD ( insert rimshot here )

Looking forward to it!

okcacehole
Sep 30 2006, 06:49 PM
Yellow team rules and I need 1 more DJ towel :D

Oct 02 2006, 10:16 AM
?????
Can someone please translate? I seriously don't understand a single word of this. What are we talking about here anyway? Seriously, I just read this twice and I don't get it.

oklaoutlaw
Oct 02 2006, 11:08 AM
?????
Can someone please translate? I seriously don't understand a single word of this. What are we talking about here anyway? Seriously, I just read this twice and I don't get it.



I think it is a foreign language you are not supposed to understand it :D:D.....seriously, Jeremy, what are you referring to?

oklaoutlaw
Oct 02 2006, 12:02 PM
We now have another great sponsor!!!

The Norman Disc Golfers Association

Things just keep getting better!! :D

Oct 02 2006, 12:37 PM
?????
Can someone please translate? I seriously don't understand a single word of this. What are we talking about here anyway? Seriously, I just read this twice and I don't get it.


Are you refering to the Daryl Towel??

kyle
Oct 02 2006, 12:39 PM
The course is a par 66.The chance of the course doing this design full time is slim to none.You cant start on hole 10, and make 18 holes out of it ,slow play will happen, and golfers will be upset fact.I offered my help last week and you said you had it all figured out..I do not think there is enough disc golfers to support this course.Way to much golf for 1 day, and now no carts ,way to much golf the 2nd day also.The course must be shut down the hole back 9 both days. Do you think the course is going to make up the difference by loosing golf?Tommorow fly 18 will have a 2 day event that does not shut down golf ,and has carts for all 74 players, both days ,just like golf and will be there for years to come with a 5 year contract.fully stocked bar and restaraunt..284 strokes for par for 2 days with no carts ...Can you say blister :oI am sure the women will just love this grilla style golf, last man, or women standing, wins the marathon.Follow success and success will follow ;)



I believe he is refering to this.

Oct 02 2006, 12:48 PM
The course is a par 66.The chance of the course doing this design full time is slim to none.You cant start on hole 10, and make 18 holes out of it ,slow play will happen, and golfers will be upset fact.I offered my help last week and you said you had it all figured out..I do not think there is enough disc golfers to support this course.Way to much golf for 1 day, and now no carts ,way to much golf the 2nd day also.The course must be shut down the hole back 9 both days. Do you think the course is going to make up the difference by loosing golf?Tommorow fly 18 will have a 2 day event that does not shut down golf ,and has carts for all 74 players, both days ,just like golf and will be there for years to come with a 5 year contract.fully stocked bar and restaraunt..284 strokes for par for 2 days with no carts ...Can you say blister :oI am sure the women will just love this grilla style golf, last man, or women standing, wins the marathon.Follow success and success will follow ;)



I believe he is refering to this.



That is the ramblings of an individual that could not be further removed from this tournament .Pay no attention to what that paragraph has to say, it holds no relevence on this weekends tournament .

oklaoutlaw
Oct 02 2006, 12:57 PM
Kyle, as Lee said it was ramblings of an individual sitting in California that has no idea of what is going on in a small SW town in Oklahoma. Any way I choose to ignore it since we can not make heads or tails of such ramblings. :)

And now to proceed with the currently ongoing tournament news and happenings!

Be there and have a great time....things are getting better every day. :D:D

m_conners
Oct 02 2006, 12:58 PM
Good grief, sounds like flyboy is more interested in advertising how much better fly 18 over everybody else.

Don't you live on the west coast? Why are you tellinig Tom Lowry how to run a disc golf event?

Oct 02 2006, 01:32 PM
Knowing Reese, I would assume that this event poses a threat to what he is trying to accomplish with Fly18. His mindset is a little bit askew, in regards to disc golf overlay on a ball golf facility. Not that his opinions are wrong ( or right ) in this manor, just different. I think his attempt to assist, could have been a little over the top. CALL ME CRAZY, BUT............

I place all the faith in the world in the hands of Tom Lowry. He has gratiously organized and FUNDED a Not for profit organization that has pointed the future of disc golf in the RIGHT direction, the kids. On top of his efforts, he runs a quality event every time his trailer pulls into a parking lot. I have never heard one complaint about any of his events. To boot ,Tom is a stand up guy not to mention a PDGA LEGACY MEMBER. I think he might have a fraction of a clue as to what is going on :D:D:D. Those whom dont share that persepctive either dont know Tom, or are a little too busy California dreamin' . :D:D
As I origionally posted, YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS EVENT. We ( those whom live in the middle of the country) do not have an opportunity to play an event like this, ever. The atmosphere alone will be worth the time and money! Does this course have what it takes to be permanent?
We will see after this weekend. Could there be some logistical issues? We will see after this weekend. Is Tom doing what the can to promote and EXPAND disc golf in this community of no more than 20,000. HELL YES! THANKS TOM. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ONE ALL YEAR! I WILL BE THERE WITH FRIGGIN BELLS ON!

MC, get your arse down to Duncan!

cgflesner
Oct 02 2006, 03:08 PM
Can you please stop taking up the entire page. :p

Oct 02 2006, 03:51 PM
Funny, I was under the impression that this MB was here to post whatever we so desire. Did I inconvenience you? Did I make you read my post?

Oh yeah, that was your decision......... Silly me!
Geeze Chris, I am soooooo sorry I twisted your arm like that ! Forgive me for actually having something relevant to say, in regards to the topic @ hand!

Have a wonderfull day! :D

cgflesner
Oct 02 2006, 04:04 PM
Take it easy man :confused:

Oct 02 2006, 04:37 PM
My panties are a little twisted today!
Not a good TWISTED either!

Oct 02 2006, 04:39 PM
Pink Panties!

m_conners
Oct 02 2006, 04:52 PM
Do they look like this?

http://www.lipsvelvet.com/LipsVelvet%20Pink%20Panties%20with%20Rainbow%20Ela stic%20Pink%20Background%20-%20Small.jpg

Oct 02 2006, 05:52 PM
Close, mine are thongs! Man I need a bikini wax!

cgflesner
Oct 03 2006, 11:25 AM
Does anybody from the dfw area have any extra room for a college bum?

Oct 03 2006, 11:28 AM
A lot of us are camping! U got a tent?

cgflesner
Oct 03 2006, 11:35 AM
Ya, where are yall camping?

Oct 03 2006, 11:38 AM
[Re: flyboy]

Oct 03 2006, 11:45 AM
I've heard marathon runners and rugby players just use a handful of vasaline. Is this best or powder?

15353
Oct 03 2006, 11:57 AM
I heard you use both of them together and it works great.......

oklaoutlaw
Oct 03 2006, 12:10 PM
Ya, where are yall camping?



Chris,

Camping is available on the back side of the course. Are you coming up Friday or Saturday? Maps will be available at the Clubhouse.

cgflesner
Oct 03 2006, 12:25 PM
Prob Fri morning.

Oct 03 2006, 12:25 PM
Is the course already setup? I will be working in Maysville tomorrow and would love to come play a practice round tomorrow afternoon. Is this possible?

CAMBAGGER
Oct 03 2006, 12:31 PM
Nice shooting this past weekend Jeremy, way to step it up.

oklaoutlaw
Oct 03 2006, 12:38 PM
Chris, If your getting here Fri morn. then check in at the Clubhouse and I'll be out there around noon with maps to everywhere, including the course.

oklaoutlaw
Oct 03 2006, 12:40 PM
Is the course already setup? I will be working in Maysville tomorrow and would love to come play a practice round tomorrow afternoon. Is this possible?



Jeremy,

The course will not be set up until noon on Fri. but if you give me a call, I'll meet you out there and show you around and you can throw a few.

Oct 03 2006, 12:58 PM
What time are Dubs going down on Friday?

oklaoutlaw
Oct 03 2006, 04:20 PM
Lee,

Dubs will be pick your own partner flex time from 1:30 until 4:00pm. $5 per person for walkers. Payouts will be handled on Sat afternoon.

Oct 03 2006, 04:49 PM
Sweet!

15353
Oct 03 2006, 05:38 PM
There is added money to all pro purse, including women ?

oklaoutlaw
Oct 03 2006, 09:55 PM
There is added money to all pro purse, including women ?



Added money

Open - $750
Pro Master - $500
Open Women - $0

I have in 3 years had 1 Open Women play, so I don't have any sponsors for them. If I were to have them come and play in our events, and know about it ahead of time, I would find a sponsor.

Here's the history for Open women Players at our events:

2004 - 6 events - 0 Open Women
2005 - 8 events - 1 Open Women (Norman, OK - Linda Chandler)
2006 - 3 events to date - 0 Open Women

So should I find a sponsor for a division that in 3 years and 17 events that I have only had 1 person register to play?

Sorry, it doesn't seem logical to me to do so. I am not discouraging Women to play in our events, and we have had a few Am Women play and they have always gotten back more than a 100% payout, but they are so few, I don't even consider having them for our events.

Oct 04 2006, 10:20 AM
Only a couple more days! Man I cant wait!!!!!
Getting pumped! Free beer, free food, live bands and DISC GOLF ON A BALL GOLF COURSE. AWESOME!!!!!!! It seems like yesterday when Tom brought this up, and now it's here!
50 hours and counting untill I point myself northbound and have the time of my life!
YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS ONE!

cgflesner
Oct 04 2006, 04:10 PM
Is 81 the way to go from Ft Worth?

Oct 04 2006, 04:13 PM
Yes, I am told it knocks about 45 min. off of the trip.
Plus, it is Texas - OU weekend. Could be a beeyotch getting out of town with all those **** Okies heading down this way to get their arses kicked! Hook Em' Horns

oklaoutlaw
Oct 04 2006, 08:04 PM
Is 81 the way to go from Ft Worth?



Take 281 to Bowie then 81 North to Duncan, go North on the Duncan Bypass from the South end of town to Gatlin Road, then East (right) on Gatlin to Hwy 81, then South (right) on Hwy 81 about 1/2 mile to the parking lot on the right. Look for the "Twin Oaks Golf Course" sign.

Oct 05 2006, 11:43 AM
Departure time, t-minus 26 hours and counting! Cant wait to see that course tomorrow! :) :) :)

oklaoutlaw
Oct 05 2006, 03:26 PM
And here is your weekend weather forcast for Duncan, OK

Friday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 83. East southeast wind between 8 and 13 mph.

Friday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 57. East southeast wind between 7 and 9 mph.

Saturday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 81. South southeast wind between 7 and 11 mph.

Saturday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 57.

Sunday: Partly cloudy, with a high near 83.

Looks like a great weekend for golf!!!! In less that 24 hours Disc Golf will be played at Twin Oaks!!!!!!! :D

Oct 05 2006, 03:48 PM
SSSSSSSSSSSSwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eettttttttttt!!!! So pumped!
Less than 24 hours to go!!!!!!!

m_conners
Oct 05 2006, 04:47 PM
Wow those are beautiful conditions!

Oct 05 2006, 05:34 PM
mY 3 DAY WEEKEND HAS OFOCIALLY STARTED !
OKLAHOMA HERE I COME!

Birdie
Oct 05 2006, 08:23 PM
My pops and I are coming down.

Looking for a real good time.

Connors and Lund better be playing Pro! :mad:;) :D

kyle
Oct 06 2006, 09:47 AM
I'm sure it's on here somewhere, Tom is there a tenitive schedule?

cgflesner
Oct 06 2006, 10:29 AM
I thought this was a pro only event, or was that in my dreams. :)

oklaoutlaw
Oct 06 2006, 10:41 AM
I'm sure it's on here somewhere, Tom is there a tenitive schedule?



Here is the Schedule:

2006 TWIN OAKS OPEN
Schedule of Events

Friday, October 6, 2006

1:00 PM Course Open for General Play
2:00 PM Early Registration Begins
2:00 PM Flex Start Doubles begins
4:00 PM Last Group for Doubles
6:30 PM Early Registration Ends
7:15 PM Course Closes for Day
Saturday, October 7, 2006
7:30 AM Late Registration
7:30 AM Course Open For Warm-up Play
8:30 AM Late Registration Ends
9:15 AM Mandatory Players Meeting
9:30 AM START ROUND 1 - ALL DIVISIONS PLAY
2:30 PM START ROUND 2 - PRO / ADV / INT ONLY
7:15 PM Course Closes for Day
8:00 PM Players Party and Dinner Begins
Sunday, October 8, 2006
7:30 AM Devotional Service @ Pavilion
7:30 AM Course Open For Warm-up Play
8:30 AM START ROUND 3 - ALL DIVISIONS PLAY
2:00 PM START ROUND 4 - FINAL 9 - PRO / ADV / INT ONLY
4:15 PM Ring of Fire Games
5:00 PM Awards


SPECIAL THANKS:
The Ellsworth Family for their gracious hospitality
The Members of Twin Oaks Golf Club
Clear Creek Minerals, Daryl Johnson, The Norman Disc Golfers Association, Dee Lowry, The Days Inn and Duncan Inn, Mark Savory, See Jack Run, Oblivious and Innova Discs



This is the OFFICIAL and FINAL SCHEDULE OF EVENTS FOR THE TOURNAMENT

oklaoutlaw
Oct 06 2006, 10:42 AM
I thought this was a pro only event, or was that in my dreams. :)



CHRIS, WAKE UP :D:D:D

m_conners
Oct 06 2006, 01:33 PM
My pops and I are coming down.

Looking for a real good time.

Connors and Lund better be playing Pro! :mad:;) :D



Billy might be going...I can't due to purchasing a new fuel pump for my wife's pontiac...DADGUMMIT!!!!

And seriously, why would I be playing pro? I stink at DG. :(

Oct 09 2006, 10:45 AM
There are not enough good things to say about this tournament. The Ellisworth Family , WOW, you guys are awesome! The course was a blast, the people were great.
THANKS TOM LOWRY!

oklaoutlaw
Oct 09 2006, 01:12 PM
The results are in and can be viewed HERE!!! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5592)

I have a tidbit for all those that look at the Tier of the tournament when deciding whether to go or not, and that is, the value of what we gave away at this little "C" Tier event in cash and prizes came in at just under $9,800.00.

So, Thanks for all that came and played, we had a great time!!! All you folks that were there have an idea as to what's coming. Everyone else will just have to guess.

ps...Don E. told me last night after everyone left, they are going to have something permanent in the very very near future and are looking forward to a bigger next year!!!!

Oct 09 2006, 01:23 PM
I can not say this enough, the Ellisworth family is exactly what we need to take disc golf to the next level. The excitement ,hospitality, and enthuisiasm was second to none. These people see the big picture. What a GREAT time. For all of you out there that missed this one, SUCKS TO BE YOU! And for all of those that chose not to camp out, you sure did miss a lot of fun! When this one comes around again, I will be the first pre-register.
The windmill hole was sooo sweet, and hole 18...........
Words can not express how awesome that was!

oklaoutlaw
Oct 09 2006, 01:39 PM
The windmill hole was sooo sweet,



and a few of us know what it was like to have to play THROUGH the windmill... :D:D...ask Mitch...lol :D

tokyo
Oct 09 2006, 02:04 PM
Did Harwell do it again, taking the lead and then losing it.

15353
Oct 09 2006, 02:42 PM
Very cool, tough and challenging course , I believe I only had 2 birdies through 3 rounds and a final nine but a lot of pars and bogeys , and the wind mill hole i thought was the toughest hole on the course 4 it every time although i had my only spit for a three on that hole oh well , all i know is that we had a great time and will definately be back anytime twin oaks has something again, Their hospitality was incredible and Wow what a payout , Thanks again The Allens..............

Oct 09 2006, 03:17 PM
Did Harwell do it again, taking the lead and then losing it.


He and I both did. I will say this Randy ( the 15 year old with a rating below 900 ) Shot a smoking round of golf in the Final 9. Kevin, ChrisP, and myself just forgot to bring our game on those last holes. D A M N I T !!!!!!!!!!!
Alas, we live to throw another day........

danniestacey
Oct 09 2006, 03:39 PM
I agree. The course setup was awesome. Hole 8 (also know as the Windmill Hole) was a great hole. Thanks for running a great tournament Tom.

Oct 10 2006, 10:47 AM
I just added up the payouts from the results page and only came up with $4,247. Did the t-shirts and bbq make up the other $5,553?

Oct 10 2006, 11:37 AM
Just out of curiosity, what happened to you on sunday?
Are u ok, Jeremy?

cgflesner
Oct 10 2006, 11:59 AM
Quiters are not allowed to complain. :mad:

I think that $1020.00 payout for 9 open players rocks.

Oct 10 2006, 11:59 AM
Second!

seewhere
Oct 10 2006, 12:20 PM
dang 9 open players and you guys payed 4 that is AWESOME. there was 15 at octoberfest and they payed 5. I think the twin payout is also higher with less players. :confused:

Oct 10 2006, 12:53 PM
It's not a complaint.The payout was great, but it wasn't $9,800. I just didn't feel like driving for 3 hours to play 1 round of golf. When I signed up, I paid for 4 rounds.

Oct 10 2006, 01:05 PM
I am sure there was a substantial amount of monies paid to the Twin Oaks Golf Club for shutting down their back nine for an entire weekend. Also, 4 keg's o' beer, several live bands, players packs, carts for the masters, and ladies. There were many incedential charges , like the 245 dollars he gave away in cash for the ring-o-fire.
This info is not factual, this is what I am assuming.

seewhere
Oct 10 2006, 01:21 PM
1 round of golf

appears you played at least 2 and had 1 more on Sunday :confused:

Oct 10 2006, 01:32 PM
Had we played all 4 rounds, nobody would have left before @ least 7 p.m.
He did us a favor cutting it short. Besides, you could have played another half round had you been able to get into the top 4. You never know untill u try!

oklaoutlaw
Oct 10 2006, 09:23 PM
Jeremy,

Once you add the values of all the CTPs, Long Drive, Closest approach, Longest Putt, Ring of fire, Players T-shirts, Volunteer T-shirt and plastic, Ace Pot money, along with all the other prizes and cash that was given away, the total came to $9,778.00 and my tournament records are always open at any request.

Now that DOES NOT include the money paid for the food, 4 kegs of beer, 2 bands and course rental that all was paid for out of my pocket.

NOW the above dollar amount doesn't include compensation to the TD for all the bull *&%$#@*& that every TD has to listen to about payouts, number of rounds played or any other hundred and fifty thousand gripes and complaints that some players seem to have before, during and after a tournament.

The real problem is most players have no idea how much time and effort goes in to running a tournament that people will be happy with. And it really doesn't matter what a TD does, there is always 1 or 2 players that find something to knitpick or gripe or question. Generally, when the tournament is over, all the players go home and the TD still has much work to do and most players seem to want to not concern themselves with that aspect of a tournament either.

I want to express my greatest thanks to several of those players that actually took the time to stay and help clean up, pick up baskets, and so many other things, I can't even remember all they did, but I do remember them,

Lee Letts, Britt Browning, Josh McIllwain, Doug Fritz, Tracy Fritz, Kim Ballinger, Brandy Geeslin, Terry Simmons.

So, all I hope is that everyone had a great time, because the Ellsworth Family would like to have us back!

Pizza God
Oct 10 2006, 10:33 PM
I do Tom :D

Looks like I need to put this on my "must play" list for next year. Specially if you can pull that many old guys out again.

oklaoutlaw
Oct 10 2006, 11:00 PM
Thanks Bryan,

I know you have to deal with the same from time to time. I think you'll like the course. You never know, next year Timmy and R.L. might make it down. The only reason they didn't come this year is that R.L. hurt his arm at Okie Doubles.

Look for much more next year!!! :D

shakenbake54
Oct 10 2006, 11:43 PM
Judging by the results page it looks like the BIG ARMS did well on this course. I better start practicing my roller if I plan on making it out next year. Sounds like everyone had a blast. Wish I could have been there.

cgflesner
Oct 11 2006, 10:18 AM
I'm not a big arm.

seewhere
Oct 11 2006, 10:30 AM
that's for sure :o

cgflesner
Oct 11 2006, 10:39 AM
Drive for show putt for, well you know the rest. :p

seewhere
Oct 11 2006, 10:41 AM
:D:p PHUCKER

Oct 11 2006, 12:55 PM
Big arms are nice to have , but this course was all about placement. Big rollers helped, when wind permitted!
Putting was an issue on those single chain discatchers, but everybody had to put on those. so the challange was equal for everybody...... GREAT event. The first post I put up was, YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS ONE.
I WAS RIGHT! Everything was awesome! THanks again Tom!
I will miss this series next year. But I will be back for the next Twin Oaks Open!

oklaoutlaw
Oct 11 2006, 02:23 PM
Lee,

The series may be gone, but Twin Oaks and a couple of others that I have in the works will still be events that will provide more bang for your buck, provided our State Coordinator will not give me dates that are conflicting with other events, as he has done so often. :confused:

m_conners
Oct 11 2006, 02:26 PM
provided our State Coordinator will not give me dates that are conflicting with other events, as he has done so often. :confused:



You got double-dated?

That sucks.

oklaoutlaw
Oct 11 2006, 02:34 PM
You got double-dated?

That sucks.



Yes it does, considering I do nothing but try to make quality events for all.

But, I will continue on and continue to bring the best quality events I can to the Texhoma area.

Oct 11 2006, 03:08 PM
I am there!