There are several I could have PM'd, but I thought the questions would get answered better in public.

Who designed McClure and Dovillio?

Dovillio was designed by Kevin McCoy.

McClure has been around for a long time, not sure who designed it. I do know when it was first designed people on dirt bikes used to go out there all the time and goof off all over the park.

I believe the original McClure layout was designed by Ed Headrick. But it has changed multiple times. I think Dave King and Dave Zooconi had alot to do with the current design. Why do you ask?

I think Jroc is so impressed with the layouts at Mcclure and Dovillio that he wants to fly out the course designers to his course in Abiline so they can layout Abilines new disc golf park :D

Interesting fact. Back in the day the hill that hole 3 basket sits on was a dirt bike jump.

Dovillio was designed by Kevin McCoy.

McClure has been around for a long time, not sure who designed it. I do know when it was first designed people on dirt bikes used to go out there all the time and goof off all over the park.

... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Actually, I designed the original course at Dovillio when I put it in to compensate for the McClure OPen growing to big to hold all players.. It has been changed a little hear and there. I and Dave King are responsible for McClure, and it has been changed a little as well.(Your toughest courses are technically desinged by the faction "ZOOMAC" productions.) This is evident in Blackhawk and Sapulpa :D This story is too long, but what is important is who IS taking care of these courses now.... Thong and Big Nic---- you guys are great , cuz you have maintained these courses and continue great things with the club.

Was that the 1997 or 1998 McClure Open when the temp course was put it at Dovillio?

That course was sick with the waterway having water about 15 feet from the top of the channel!

If we only had more trees around here......sigh.. :(

The reason I ask is that I need the info to finish the course evals I did on them before Worlds. So, whoever you guys think should be listed as the course designers....thats who goes there. Looks like McCoy and Zooc for Dovillio.....Steady Ed, et. all for McClure. Whoever Tulsa thinks should be listed....thats who gets listed.

Sounds like besides Chandler, McClure is the oldest course in Tulsa?

Riverside would be the oldest, I think, then Chandler and McCLure.

... Riverside = 1979
... McClure = 1980
... Haikey Creek = 1980
... Chandler = 1981
... Mack Taylor = 1981

I believe the original McClure layout was designed by Ed Headrick. But it has changed multiple times. I think Dave King and Dave Zooconi had alot to do with the current design. Why do you ask?

Ed Headrick was the main brain for McClure. Stan Korth was also here and a handful of locals rounded out crew. It was interesting to watch Ed and Stan do the bulk of the design. However, they were open to some of the suggestions of the locals and even used some of their ideas. McClure park is the birthplace of disc golf in Tulsa. But we cant overlook Riverside as the original disc golf basket course provided by Virgil Reese Sr. & Jr. IMO, both courses are hallowed disc golf courses. By the way, Ed and Stan were the main brain trust for Riverside also. :) :) :)

I dont want to leave any out that deserve credit, so as I see it now....

Dovillio - Dave Zooconi and Kevin McCoy

McClure - Ed Headrick, Stan Korth, Dave Zooconi, Dave King

Sound about right?

I guess......I thought I invented disc golf.... :(

Now, you know I told you, you didn't invent disc golf, you only invented the shank. :D

I dont want to leave any out that deserve credit, so as I see it now....

Dovillio - Dave Zooconi and Kevin McCoy

McClure - Ed Headrick, Stan Korth, Dave Zooconi, Dave King

Sound about right?

That is as correct as it could be except for --------- it's ZUCCONI. :D

And here all these years I thought you spelled it Zookeenee. :confused: ;)

I guess......I thought I invented disc golf.... :(

:cool: Thats OK Red, I thought I invented the Pinata, at the McClure Open , but it was the pinata with the shape of a disc filled with candy and $$.. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I dont want to leave any out that deserve credit, so as I see it now....

Dovillio - Dave Zooconi and Kevin McCoy

McClure - Ed Headrick, Stan Korth, Dave Zooconi, Dave King

Sound about right?

That is as correct as it could be except for --------- it's ZUCCONI. :D



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... hey Doc ... that little "blinking envelope" up there by your name means you've got Mail ... click on it for a list of your PM's (private messages) ...

There's a REALLY good lookin' pic of Mr Wayne Forest himself on the Okie Doubles thread under tournament info :D

Wayne Forest: Co-TD of the Okie Doubles

Displaying his "E-nee-Meany-Miney-Moe" technique for assigning holes at tournaments. :cool:


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/okcacehole/okopenselect-45.jpg

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)

SCREW MIKE CONNERS~! :o:eek: :D

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive



SCREW YOU PABLO!! :D:D:D:D

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive



SCREW YOU PABLO!! :D:D:D:D



You'd need a stepladder to get that high, shortstack :D

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive



SCREW YOU PABLO!! :D:D:D:D



What ^^^^ he said and the horse you rode up on!!!!! :D:D:D:D

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive



SCREW YOU PABLO!! :D:D:D:D



What ^^^^ he said and the horse you rode up on!!!!! :D:D:D:D



Man, I haven't gotten laid this much since high school! :D

don't forget your heart pills, old timer :o

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive



SCREW YOU PABLO!! :D:D:D:D



What ^^^^ he said and the horse you rode up on!!!!! :D:D:D:D



Man, I haven't gotten laid this much since high school! :D

don't forget your heart pills, old timer :o



So what your saying is that Wayne stole O'Conners Golden Shovel? :D

Nope. I'm saying there's a lotta people out there who wanna screw me.

I'm saying Wayne has his own shovel, and I appreciate all the hard work he did for Worlds. (Wayne DOES have his own shovel, right?) Thanks, Wayne, for all the hard work you put in. I look forward to seeing you this weekend. Rust never sleeps, right?

There's no question Mike deserved his own shovel, but that's an old topic, and not one I'm willing to involve myself in. That's between Mike and whomever forgot to give him one and has nothing to do with me.

Love ya MC. I look forward to seeing YOU this weekend, too.

Furdog and Thong...well, maybe Thong can sit on Furdog's back and see over the steering wheel. ;)

Jerry Garcia's dead, Furdog (sorry, Redheaded Aggie, I know it breaks your heart too.) He's dead and gone. His memory lives on, but he's currently wormfood. Just imagine how ripped those worms must be getting. :D

Who's next? :cool:

Quit kissing Wayne's butt. It's not going to get you a better hole assignment or improve your score this weekend. You should be kissing your partner's butt since he will be the one carrying you around on his back all weekend. :D

And by the way......

Jerry Garcia Lives!!!!

I just saw him and Elvis down at Krispy Kreme. :cool:

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive




You guys need to stop using my name and the word "golden shovel" in the same sentence, I don't give a rat's assss anymore if my name was not in the mix.

FYI: this post is not directed toward OrangeDeJulius.

I agree mc, it should be "Golden Child" :D:D

I agree mc, it should be "Golden Child" :D:D



That's me baby! HAH! :D

Anyone remember this classic:

http://www.moviequotequiz.com/reviews/GoldenChildBig.gif

Quit kissing Wayne's butt. It's not going to get you a better hole assignment or improve your score this weekend. You should be kissing your partner's butt since he will be the one carrying you around on his back all weekend. :D

And by the way......

Jerry Garcia Lives!!!!

I just saw him and Elvis down at Krispy Kreme. :cool:



Cherry Garcia lives...in the freezer at the local Quickee Mart :D

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive




You guys need to stop using my name and the word "golden shovel" in the same sentence, I don't give a rat's assss anymore if my name was not in the mix.

FYI: this post is not directed toward OrangeDeJulius.



Miss ya buddy...see how your local "friends" turn on ya? I presume I'll see you this weekend? I have a very cool partner for this one (not to suggest my 'regular' partner isn't cool, mind you) :D

I agree mc, it should be "Golden Child" :D:D



That's me baby! HAH! :D

Anyone remember this classic:

http://www.moviequotequiz.com/reviews/GoldenChildBig.gif



I LOVE that movie...best part of it, though, even though Eddie was good, is Thong's sister as his sidekick. She's SMOKIN!

Who woulda known people in Thong's family get that tall? :o

Thong wasn't born short. His body is just being compacted by gravity. :cool:

You can't see his other hand in that pic, but it's holding a GOLDEN SHOVEL :D



I bet is has " MIKE CONNERS " engraved in the handle



Actually, I was crediting Wayne on HIS hard work for Worlds...no negativity in my post




Damit, Pablo, let it go.......................COnners doesn't know that every one but him got a shovel. :o;)



Like I said, I was crediting Wayne for HIS hard work, not commenting on the recent disagreement you guys were having...you T-Town guys are SO sensitive




You guys need to stop using my name and the word "golden shovel" in the same sentence, I don't give a rat's assss anymore if my name was not in the mix.

Man, the hostility. I've got a shovel here at the house with a yellow handle if you want it. :D

FYI: this post is not directed toward OrangeDeJulius.

I own 2 shovels and one already has a yellow handle on it. :D

The shovel I got from Twoputt had a brown handle on it when everyone else's was yellow. Hmmm?....Go figure. :confused: :( :p