Discraft will be releasing the 2nd First Run Buzzz for the benefit of The Players Cup '06 (http://theplayerscup.org)! This limited production second coming uses the original modified Wasp mold and is produced with the same marbled, pearlescent plastic that the original First Runs were famous for. In addition, each disc will be accompanied with a laminated certificate of authenticity and a full production schedule (colors, weights, etc.) will be released shortly.

I will have a limited amount available at Pro Worlds in Augusta and will start taking pre-orders through the Sun King Disc Sports (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=S&Category_Code=1000) website within the next 48 hours. The price through Discraft and SportDiscs.com (http://www.sportdiscs.com) will be $25 for the Blue and Green. Sun King Disc Sports will offer a special package deal that includes a limited edition SuperCOLOR Mini with each Buzzz ordered and will also be the only place to get the White/Clear 2FR Buzzz.

I know I'll be grabbing a few of these to keep my stash of First Runs as new and unthrown!

Thanks!

Mike Barnett

That is hilarious.

edit: But it's true, one cannot tell the difference between a real first run and these. I wonder if the stamp will change??

*Drooling*

That is hilarious.

edit: But it's true, one cannot tell the difference between a real first run and these. I wonder if the stamp will change??



There *should* be a way of telling the TRUE 1st runs apart from 2nd 1st runs......... In the meantime, i'll add this to my list of growing oxymorons..... jumbo shrimp, plastic glass, idiot savant, down escalator, and now 2nd 1st runs. :D


Keith? Mike? Bueller?

The hotstamp is similar to the original but clearly denotes these as fundraisers for The Players Cup '06.

The idea behind the name was more of a reference point to what the first runs were; made using the modified Wasp mold with a pearl/marbled Z material, most of which were flat on top. In other words, saying "first run" now automatically references the three aforementioned qualities.

As we know, the Buzzz now has its own mold and the material can change slightly from run to run and in some cases the dome has been more noticeable. So this title more references the characteristics than anything else.

What's in a name anyway? ;)

Mike

dont the real 1st run buzzes say
"wasp" on the inner rim?

Yes and so do these

yikes I now see where the confusion will be. thanks

I got a chance to throw a few of these yesterday and they do fly EXACTLY like the 1st Runs..........They are flat on top and extremely stable and by stable I mean straight at just about all speeds!!! I dont know if they quite nailed the plastic but its pretty darn close and I myself will be looking to pick some up as well!!! Cant wait to put some of these in the bag!!! Thank you Discraft for again giving the players what they want and have been asking for!!!

This is just kind of an opinion:

I feel that this is exactly what Discraft and the Player's Cup need to become competitive with the USDGC. One key to the USDGC, among many others, is the Champion Roc. They raise like $25,000 every year! Dcraft had the Midnight Buzzz as a fundraiser, but there are problems:
1. THey are black, and hard to find. 2. They also stamped them as fundraisers for DGLO.
If Dcraft is going to put on an event on par with USDGC, they need an exclusive fundraiser. A disc everyone wants that you cannot buy without contributing to 1 tournament, exclusively: The Player's Cup. What is the most sought-after Dcraft disc? First Run Buzzz. Awesome. Congratulations Discraft, soon the Player's Cup will be at the level of USDGC. Too bad it's not in a more central location tho, I would love to try and qualify at the Red Hawk Am Champs.

Well Rock Hill SC isn't exactly the center of the US either

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.

The name needs to go, how about "Retro 1st Run Buzz", 2nd 1st just sounds stuipd IMO.

How about Unretooled Buzzz...?

"The Original Buzz"

1st Run Redeux/Remix

1st Run Redeux/Remix



I like that. 1st Run Remixxx

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike

dont the real 1st run buzzes say
"wasp" on the inner rim?

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike



I definately should have not used the word "competitive". I was trying to express that this will put TPC on the same level as USDGC. Complimenting {thanks Mike}, not competing.

1st Run Redeux/Remix



I like that. 1st Run Remixxx



sounds a hell of a lot better than "2nd 1st Run", at least it make sense

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike



Great post Mike. That is the attitude all tournaments and clubs should have. Support each other so the sport grows!

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike



Great post Mike. That is the attitude all tournaments and clubs should have. Support each other so the sport grows!


I agree this sport's not going to go anywhere till we can all just get along!

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike



Great post Mike. That is the attitude all tournaments and clubs should have. Support each other so the sport grows!


I agree this sport's not going to go anywhere till we can all just get along!


...And find a way to get rid of Nick Kight!

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike



Great post Mike. That is the attitude all tournaments and clubs should have. Support each other so the sport grows!


I agree this sport's not going to go anywhere till we can all just get along!


...And find a way to get rid of Nick Kight!



Is he really that bad ? :confused:

thats kinda like what i call my come-back misses.... 1st run re-misss :eek:

Unretooled Buzzz...?


...or Reunretooled...or just.........Untooled Buzzz. Yes, that's it.

IMO selling a "2nd 1st Run" Buzz is in no way gonna make the Players Cup compete with the USDGC, it's going to take a little more than that.



Just an FYI, The Players Cup wasn't created or designed to compete against the USDGC. Disc golf will not survive, at least not in a healthy state, if it is constantly divided and forced to compete against itself. It's primary function was to offer a world class event with world class players at a world class facility. We feel that we have the best facility that currently exists in our sport and I believe the players opinions support that statement.

If anything, The Players Cup compliments the USDGC and offers the players another Major event which helps expand awareness of disc golf. We are excited that we will more than likely maintain our goal of having the 3rd largest payout of the year and it will be our first year as a PDGA Major.

So support disc golf and buy a 2nd First Run Buzzz.

I will post pics and purchase links later this evening.

Thanks!
Mike



Great post Mike. That is the attitude all tournaments and clubs should have. Support each other so the sport grows!


I agree this sport's not going to go anywhere till we can all just get along!



These might be the best posts that I have ever read on this board!!!

Can you dig it?

Pre-Order the 2nd First Run Z Buzzz HERE! (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=1000-2FRBZ)

We will be the only site carrying the White/Clear and in addition, the only site to include the limited edition Players Cup SuperCOLOR mini with each 2FR Buzzz ordered.

Order placed! Hopefully, I can have my hands on these in only 10 days...

I thought they were going to be $25 bucks? What up wit dat?
One day and they have gone up to $29 (plus shipping for a single = $35.50) ... ouch. :p

I wondered that, too. Does the limited edition SuperColor mini make up that extra $4.99?

Also, any chance of some bigger pictures? I'm wondering what exactly the stamp actually looks like. Thanks.

Why <font color="blue">blue </font>and <font color="green">green</font>? Worst colors ever for discs in my opinion. Even pink would be better. I will never carry either color in my bag. Even the clear plastic is just OK. If I get one to throw, it will be dyed solid <font color="red">red</font> or<font color="orange"> orange </font>.

Why blue &amp; green? Unless you make every color imagineable, you won't be able to please everybody's preferences. The blue and green were some of the colors from the first run and the white/clear was thrown in for a bonus.

As for pics, I only have the ones on the site. When I get them in I'll put up a closeup on here.

Yes, if you want the limited edition mini included with disc it's an additional $5.

Discraft is selling only the blue and green, no minis.

Sun King Disc Sports is selling blue, green, white/clear all with the minis.

It's just another way to give the customer a choice.

Can you dig it?

Mike

I thought they were going to be $25 bucks? What up wit dat?

I believe it is a FUNDRAI$ER.


Why blue and green? Worst colors ever for discs in my opinion.

It's better than black.

Can't make everyone happy, eh?

Why blue and green? Worst colors ever for discs in my opinion.



If you have ever thrown a blue first run buzz you would not have to ask this question... :D

good one superQ, you speak the truth! and green is an awesome color... there werent any green 1FRs if i remember correctly. at least i dont have any :(

i just placed my order... making a serious contribution to mike AND the players cup! :D

btw, has anyone seen any YELLOW 1FRs? i have only one, and was wondering is its super rare, or i just havent come across them.

Why blue and green? Worst colors ever for discs in my opinion.



If you have ever thrown a blue first run buzz you would not have to ask this question... :D



I second that statement and im sure they will run more in more colors so dont worry about that.........Im sure this is just the first back of 2nd 1st Run BUZZZs

i had a first run green. just traded it actually

: ) :

I thought they were going to be $25 bucks? What up wit dat?
One day and they have gone up to $29 (plus shipping for a single = $35.50) ... ouch. :p



I just ordered 2 of the 2nd first run Buzzz's and I have never even thrown a Buzzz. I do have an inkling that people will be scrambling for these though. Im glad to pay the extra $5 as this IS a FUNDRAISER disc. Promote the Players Cup and help our sport grow. While youre at it, come play the RED HAWK course as well. :D

Ron

Hey all,
There was a slight adjustment to the final color/weight breakdown. Click HERE (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=1000-2FRBZ) to view.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike, when will Sun King be shipping these out? Thanks.

Sweet, Thanks for the break-down. Michael, I ordered late monday night. Got an email today saying payment recieved but order didn't go through. I replied to the email at 3:30 today but haven't heard back. Just checking, I'm eager to throw a 1st run for the 2nd time...

Mickey Banks
177-178 Blue w/ ghost

good one superQ, you speak the truth! and green is an awesome color... there werent any green 1FRs if i remember correctly. at least i dont have any :(

i just placed my order... making a serious contribution to mike AND the players cup! :D

btw, has anyone seen any YELLOW 1FRs? i have only one, and was wondering is its super rare, or i just havent come across them.



I can get my hands on a heavily abused green 1st run if you'd want one for pure sentimental value. I'm not sure you quite grasp what I mean by heavily abused, but this one may or may not fall in the tourney legal category. I'd trade for a 1st run that's good wall material.

Sweet, Thanks for the break-down. Michael, I ordered late monday night. Got an email today saying payment recieved but order didn't go through. I replied to the email at 3:30 today but haven't heard back. Just checking, I'm eager to throw a 1st run for the 2nd time...

Mickey Banks
177-178 Blue w/ ghost



I'm in the same boat. My payment has gone through but I have not heard a word about my order or shipment. Looking forward to throwing these babies soon.

Hello all!

The 2FR Buzzz's will be landing on Friday and shipping on Friday and Monday. I guess the machine that produces the minis was down creating a 2-day delay, but from what I understand, the minis turned out pretty awesome.

As for payment issues, we've only had one order that "misfired" that we know of and we received the order info already. The "misfire" problem only occurs with orders using PayPal. We receive the money, but not the order itself.

If you have any concerns or questions please send a pm or an e-mail to info@sunkingdiscs.com.

Thanks!
Mike

Hello all!

The 2FR Buzzz's will be landing on Friday and shipping on Friday and Monday. I guess the machine that produces the minis was down creating a 2-day delay, but from what I understand, the minis turned out pretty awesome.

As for payment issues, we've only had one order that "misfired" that we know of and we received the order info already. The "misfire" problem only occurs with orders using PayPal. We receive the money, but not the order itself.

If you have any concerns or questions please send a pm or an e-mail to info@sunkingdiscs.com.

Thanks!
Mike



Just got my shipping notification. As always, you guys do great!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190019693759#ebayphotohosting
:)

Just got my Buzzzes from Sun King. Same flat top, same pearly semi-opaque plastic. I can't wait to throw them.

The SuperColor minis are sweet, too. I love the Buzzz design. But do you guys realize that they say SUERCOLOR, with no P?

ahhh. sounds like the 2000 worlds Competion Model MRV.

But do you guys realize that they say SUERCOLOR, with no P?


...am guessing the 'P' is sient. :p

reminds me of the pdga appoved qms.

POGA-appoved?

object golf.

Just makes 'em more valuable because everyone knows what you are talking about. :D

I still have not heard a word from Sun King about my order and have emailed them 3 times. What's up?

I had a similar experience, and no response to emails, but they arrived this morning sure enough. FL to TX is faster than FL to ONT.

He prolly had a TON of orders to ship out. Lets see....

Just in in these last couple weeks:
1st run esp pulse
1st run esp wasp
2nd 1st run z-buzzz

Couple that with being a reputable, popular, online retailer, and you have a recipe for some over time.

Mine landed today in Merry Ole England :D, can't wait to get home and test these little puppies, Sun King have done a grand job with these fundraisers, good luck with the Tourney.

Tim

BTW guys, if you would rather pay $25 instead of $30 for the 2nd 1st run Buzzz, go to gottagogottathrow.com.

I still have not heard a word from Sun King about my order and have emailed them 3 times. What's up?



I was with Mike from Sun King yesterday doing work on the Red Hawk course for the tourney this weekend. I can't speak for Mike, but I know there have been some technical problems, as well a time issues since he just got back from Worlds and is running an A tier this weekend. His wife was working hard to get orders caught up and problems fixed. I'm sure you will hear from him soon as Sun King does not let people down!

I got my order info in the mail today. Too bad the discs didn't come in the same package. :eek:

At least I know that the info has been recieved. Just hoping the discs are here before the big tourney next weekend.

Thanks again.

Impatient! ;)

in defense of Sun King, which has proven one of the best online resellers, i received a call last friday at 6PM CENTRAL (7 PM FRIDAY nite eastern, where Sun King is), because my credit card was screwed up (got lost, bank issued new ones, but linked to wrong accounts).

they were busting their butts to getthis stuff out in a timely manner. i have never had a call not answered or not returned within a reasonable time. Sun King rules!

They're here, they're here! :cool: ..... and they look great. Can't wait to get out and throw the one. The other is a saver!

Thanks Sun King and sorry if I was being impatient. I was just worried that I might miss out on getting my favourite discs. I will certainly be dealing with you again.

I'm glad everyone is receiving their 2FR Buzzz's and I also appreciate the kind words in defense of our extremely tight schedule. I was away in Augusta running the Hippodrome course when they arrived but my wonderfully dedicated wife shipped all pre-orders out in one day! We did run out of a few of the different hotstamps including the white "ghost"-stamped (which are all gone) but got more in and resumed shipping a few days later.

Although I appreciate DonkeyBird trying to save folks $5, the ONLY reason ours are $5 more is that Sun King Discs Sports is the only source for the SuerCOLOR 2FR Buzzz mini :oThe text is pretty small but they are mispelled and wasn't caught until the second batch of minis were already printed. Regardless, the 2FR Buzzz's that come with the mini will surely be worth a bit more than the others down the road.

Thanks to all that are purchasing them and thanks for supporting the newest PDGA Major, The Players Cup (http://www.theplayerscup.org).

Mike Barnett