This disc is going to be where it's at! A retooled more stable Surge in the ESP Plastic!!! They are going to be released at AM Worlds at the Discraft flymart tent...so come on by and Check it out!!!

Just to clarify, by "more stable" do you mean "more straight" or do you mean "more overstable" meaning "more resistant to high speed turn" . . . .??

When the grown-ups throw the ESP Surge in this neighborhood the instant review is "too flippy". I like them -- but then I don't throw with the rpms or velocity the young ones do . . ..

By "more stable" I mean more OVERstable. It is going to my new disc of choice!

Maybe it will be like a spirit :D

Smitty, Doss, Keith, and myself had a chance to throw this disc yesterday, and it is all I was hoping for!! It is a little more stable than the ESP Surge. We were throwing 170g into a pretty good head wind, and this disc would always finish stable.
..so go buy a Pulse!!!

Here is a Pulse!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/First-run-ESP-Pulse-Disc-Golf-Discraft_W0QQitemZ190013321136QQihZ009QQcategoryZ7 9804QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I hate to be the person to say this.......

You say it's more stable, the description in the auction says it's flat. This sounds like a freaking Illusion.

This disc feels nothing like an Illusion.

If you notice the prototype surges where kind of described as pop top flashes. The dominess seemed to give a little more glide to the disc and it was a little understable. On some of the early runs of the surges, they were getting flatter and also more stable. The Pulse is an attempt at restoring quality control back to the surge and get the glide back into the surge, but release a flatter version for the guys who are wanting the stableness.

Is this the Geoff Bennett Surge? Wheres the Bennett Rhyno?

Interesting - the Surge felt like a less stable Tee-Rex to me, does this mean that the Pulse will fly like a Tee-Rex? Also, my Z-Surge is far more understalbe than my ESP Surge, is that generally true amongst Discraft Discs? Does THAT mean that my soon to have Z-Pulse is a duplicate of my ESP Surge???

Interesting - the Surge felt like a less stable Tee-Rex to me, does this mean that the Pulse will fly like a Tee-Rex? Also, my Z-Surge is far more understalbe than my ESP Surge, is that generally true amongst Discraft Discs? Does THAT mean that my soon to have Z-Pulse is a duplicate of my ESP Surge???


while I, and others, have found this with the Surge, it is not generally true with other molds, at elast in my experience. Compare an X Predator and Z. The Z is definately more beefy.
Someone did have an explanation, I think, about the Surge but I don't remember what it was.

If you notice the prototype surges where kind of described as pop top flashes. The dominess seemed to give a little more glide to the disc and it was a little understable. On some of the early runs of the surges, they were getting flatter and also more stable. The Pulse is an attempt at restoring quality control back to the surge and get the glide back into the surge, but release a flatter version for the guys who are wanting the stableness.



Rumor has it, that DGA is working a a new disc with this pop-top mold, called the Hurricane. I have seen this disc bombed, further then anything else out there.

Click HERE for a ESP Pulse!! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190016150885&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=009)

More ESP Pulse on eBay:

Set of (2) @ 168g (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014830844&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1)
Set of (2) @ 169g (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014830684&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1)
Set of (2) @ 170g (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190015784981&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1)

I watched Justin Kerr, a sponsored discraft player, crank this thing into a 15mph head wind and it held it for about 375' and then started to lift way left. He also used the z surge and into a head wind that thing will flip if not thrown with hyzer on it, so I would say it is almost as overstable as the T-Rex.

15' We play in 30' up here in Oklahoma if does good in that then it might compare to a TEEREX!!!!

Here is a 173g ESP Pulse! (http://cgi.ebay.com/First-run-ESP-Pulse-Disc-Golf-Discraft-173g_W0QQitemZ190016150885QQihZ009QQcategoryZ79804 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohos ting)

Any reviews on this thing. Not from people trying to sell it :)

From what I've heard it is sounding like it might be just a tad less overstable then a Tsunami. More overstable surge sounds great. Anyone who has thrown the disc extensively (not twice in a field) wanna chime in?

from this picture it looks almost like there is a thumb trac is this true or am i just seeing things that arent there?
http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=3127-ESPPS

from this picture it looks almost like there is a thumb trac is this true or am i just seeing things that arent there?
http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=3127-ESPPS



It's not exactly a thumbtrac, but not exactly not a thumbtrac... It's a groove on the surface of the disc. It's more on the rim than discraft's prior GT discs. When I gripped it, my thumb didn't hit that.

This disc is FAKE! Look at the description. It says the speed is 11 but the max is a 10. :eek:

This disc is FAKE! Look at the description. It says the speed is 11 but the max is a 10. :eek:


That's just how fast it is Scooter! It's off the scale!! :D

is the rim wider than the surge? [like the flick/spectra/venom] the surge has a rim width of the starfire/beast/orc. that is the main factor affecting speed.