i understand for certian tournaments that collared shirts are required but can they be sleveless? is there any defined length the sleve has to be?

I am not sure if you can find it but there is a thread on this topic from '04 that discusses every angle of the argument.

Here is the dress code for the PDGA National Tour Guidelines:

8.3 Dress Code

1. 8.3.1 All players in PDGA sanctioned competitions are expected to dress appropriately and maintain a clean and well-groomed appearance at all Event sites and all associated functions.
2. 8.3.2 The following dress code for all competitors will be enforced at all PDGA National Tour and Major Events. The PDGA also recommends that this dress code be enforced at SuperTour and lower tier events, but this decision lies solely with the Tournament Director:
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All players must wear a shirt covering their upper chest area. A well-tailored shirt with a fold-down, mock turtle, v-neck, crew neck, Henley, or zippered collar, and with sleeves covering the part of the arm from the shoulder to the elbow (commonly known as the upper arm), shall be considered acceptable. Women are also allowed to wear sleeveless shirts as designated above.
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No tee shirts will be allowed, except for competitors in the Junior and Amateur divisions during preliminary rounds only. Juniors and Amateurs shall not wear tee shirts during semifinal or final rounds. Crew neck or V-neck shirts made of high-performance or high-tech materials, such as Dry-Fit, Cool-Max, and others will be allowed.
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Shirts that hang down lower than the bottom hemline on the player's shorts shall be tucked in.
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No ripped shirts, shorts, pants will be allowed on the course. This includes unhemmed, torn or cut "vents" at the shirt collar.
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No offensive, profane, or obscene slogans or logos shall be allowed on any clothing. Junior players may not wear slogans or logos referring to alcohol or tobacco.
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Shoes or other foot coverings must be worn. Players will not be allowed to play in bare feet. Sandals or slides are allowed.
3. 8.3.3 This dress code will be in effect from start to finish at each event, including all tournament rounds. Players who do not make the final cut, but wish to remain on site through the duration of the tournament, will be considered spectators and will not be required to conform to the Tour's dress code.
4. 8.3.4 Any player in breach of the dress code will be warned for the first offense by a Tournament Official or PDGA Marshal, may be required to change attire immediately at the official's discretion, and will under all circumstances be required to change attire prior to the restart of their next round. For any additional offenses, players will be subject to disqualification by the Tournament Director, and may also be subject to suspension from PDGA events at the discretion of the PDGA Commissioner.

Bucky Lasek is wearing a collared shirt tonight. ;)

I noticed that too :cool:

On the subject of clothing, I think if you play in a PDGA Major, collered shirts should be worn all rounds. Several people I talked to at Worlds were confused about the whole thing. And, there was a clothing incident within Pool D the first day that the PDGA Marshall had to address. If these are our premiere events, then the players need to look like premiere players IMO.

To my knowledge, the clothing issue isn't being enforced anymore. A golfer wore a baseball jersey with no collar during the Final 9 of Pro Worlds last year and nobody said a thing.

I did. I said "**** yankees. They've done corrupted southern folk"

I did. I said "**** yankees. They've done corrupted southern folk"



LOL :DHey, it works the other way too. If you could only see how many fargin' Dallas Cowboys fans we have up here! :D

To my knowledge, the clothing issue isn't being enforced anymore. A golfer wore a baseball jersey with no collar during the Final 9 of Pro Worlds last year and nobody said a thing.



If the shirt is made of dry-fit type material, it doesn't need a collar.

If the shirt is made of dry-fit type material, it doesn't need a collar.



I'm not sure whether a baseball shirt is composed of high-performance or high-tech materials, such as Dry-Fit or Cool-Max, but I guess it qualifies as "a well-tailored shirt with a v-neck."

Why we are bothering to make the distinction and allow:

<font color="blue">a shirt with a fold-down, mock turtle, v-neck, crew neck, Henley, or zippered collar...crew neck or V-neck shirts made of high-performance or high-tech materials</font>

while not allowing <font color="red">tee shirts </font> is completely silly.

while not allowing tee shirts is completely silly.



Not sure but maybe because you usually don't see tiedye in those other shirts?

Not sure but maybe because you usually don't see tiedye in those other shirts?



I've got several tie-dyed collared shirts. :D

Me too... my favorite has the Woodshed Barn stamped on the back- I wore it during the '04 final nine... :o :D

while not allowing tee shirts is completely silly.



Not sure but maybe because you usually don't see tiedye in those other shirts?



I have a Tiedyed collard shirt from Equinox Disc Golf !!

I have been saying for a while now. A-Tiers and higher should have collared shirts as part of the players package. Then nobody has an excuse and would probably wear them during tournaments much more often.
I know I would! Most t-shirts I see during tournaments are from other tournaments, and don't you know we all have plenty of them!
What bothers me the most is why women can wear sleeveless? What does sex have to do with dress code? Makes me want to wear a skirt, a really short one! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I like these...............
www.huklab.com (http://www.huklab.com)
HukLab Pro Dry Mesh Collard Shirt
Price $39
Size? MLXL2XL3XL4XL
Colour? blackwhitesteelredroyal blue

You maybe able to find them cheaper , but they work. You can sweat hard in it and it cools you off on super humid days. When its slightly cool out , it also keeps you warm. You can wash it a dozen times like I have and it still looks brand new and holds its shape !!!!!

If the shirt is made of dry-fit type material, it doesn't need a collar.



I'm not sure whether a baseball shirt is composed of high-performance or high-tech materials, such as Dry-Fit or Cool-Max, but I guess it qualifies as "a well-tailored shirt with a v-neck."

Why we are bothering to make the distinction and allow:

<font color="blue">a shirt with a fold-down, mock turtle, v-neck, crew neck, Henley, or zippered collar...crew neck or V-neck shirts made of high-performance or high-tech materials</font>

while not allowing <font color="red">tee shirts </font> is completely silly.



it is a rather confusing -- and silly -- distinction. if a t-shirt made of hi-tech, dry mesh material is legal why the mumbo jumbo? are we trying to cater to members who have their own personal tailor and disincline those who prefer to wear cotton t-shirts from competing? or since now there are hi-tech cotton shirts that are marketed to have moisture-wicking technology do they qualify as well? maybe by t-shirt the PDGA means old-fashioned undershirts? i really don't get it. i also don't get wordings like:


"Shirts that hang down lower than the bottom hemline on the player's shorts shall be tucked in."



what the heck is a hemline? and why are we focusing on the ones that cover our bottoms? :eek: :D that sounds like something i might read in a "how to guide to joining a polo club"

wouldn't a rule requiring clothing that is not ragged, cut-off, or ripped and is free of profane or hateful messages be sufficient? :confused:

all that said, i am glad Supertours and Majors no longer require shirts with collars. the "hi-tech" & dry-mesh t-shirts are great and affordable if you look for good deals (http://www.kohls.com/products/product_page_vanilla3.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=278580517&FOLDER<>folder_id=3317741&bmUID=1154900759050) . that would be the kind of a shirt i would prefer in a player's pack -- not a shirt with a collar...

I think, if you give players a t-shirt in the players pack, you ought to allow players to wear said t shirt during the tournament.

If you are an A Tier or Major, pony up the extra dollar to get a non-t-shirt. Pony an extra dollar to get in a color other than white.

I'm cool with this .............. the "hi-tech" & dry-mesh t-shirts are great and affordable if you look for good deals (http://www.kohls.com/products/product_page_vanilla3.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=278580517&FOLDER<>folder_id=3317741&bmUID=1154900759050) . that would be the kind of a shirt i would prefer in a player's pack -- not a shirt with a collar..

How do we get the TD's on the same page with this ?

i'm not sure there's a way to get TD's on the same page with anything :eek: :D

What bothers me the most is why women can wear sleeveless?



Go ahead, throw on a sleeveless collard shirt....you'll know why when you look in the mirror. As far a sleeveless tees, its cool if you like the homeless look.

Some renegade event (do I hear MSDGC . . .) should institute an old skool Wimbledon-like dress policy where the gentlemen have to wear white linen slacks & oxfords, and the ladies white dresses.

We could have croquet between rounds. :p

How 'bout "have to wear a shirt?"

And pants. Best to put that in there too if you're going to mention shirts.

The rest should be self-evident: no telling scar stories during rounds, no "hey look I sat on bubble gum" stories, no hanging brain or flashing of any kind whatsoever. Save your best for the party.

As far a sleeveless tees, its cool if you like the homeless look.



so it's a class thing as far as your concerned :confused:

i think sleeveless shirts make disc golfers look more like athletes and they are also more comfortable in the summer to wear. as long as you are in reasonable shape and the sleeves haven't been cut off, not sure what the big deal is here. is this a fashion show or disc golf?

How 'bout "have to wear a shirt?"



Optional for FPO & buxom grandmasters (and Lick).

...no "hey look I sat on bubble gum" stories...



I would have paid top dollar for a bubble gum story at this year's Masters at Idlewild tournament.
Of course, now that I look back on it, I suppose the dog could have consumed gum the day before... :D

not sure that it's true but i've heard sitting in dog do is good luck. hey didn't you do well in that tournament? :D

What bothers me the most is why women can wear sleeveless? What does sex have to do with dress code? Makes me want to wear a skirt, a really short one! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



PGA TOUR: men must wear pants, no shorts.
LPGA TOUR: women can wear shorts, skirts, pants

from PGA site:
I have recently noticed a few players on the tour wearing very nice shirts that don�t have collars. I�m sure you are aware that some country clubs require all players to wear shirts with collars. I have also heard Greg Norman, 10 or 15 years ago, putting a dig into the PGA for not allowing the players to wear shorts especially during very hot weather. What are your thoughts on the dress code, and its evolvement on the PGA Tour. �Bill Greene, Mechanicsburg, PA

Bill,
David Duval was the first player to wear un-collard shirts a few years back. Since then, turtle necks have crept into the permissible sartorial envelope and the necklines have niggled down ever so slightly. Personally, I like it. Most of the guys are in good enough shape to look fine with or without a collar as long as it remains tasteful. If it ever gets down to low plunging mesh or sheer nylon jump suits unzipped to the scrotum, we may have to go to uniforms.

PGA TOUR: men must wear pants, no shorts.
LPGA TOUR: women can wear shorts, skirts, pants

from PGA site:




what in the world does the PGA have anything to do with this or any other discussion here. What next? Quotes from the bible to explain disc golf rules and regulations? :confused:

Mike, you asked about the sexism issue in PDGA and I was relating that to the other "golf" sport that has explicit rules.

if you can't see the relation between PDGA and PGA then I feel sorry for your 2nd grade students education!

cheers

Of course I can see the relation but don't agree with it. You just hit a pet peeve of mine is all. My opinion is to distance and not compare us with them, even though many may not agree.
And to stick to this thread, dress code is one place we can begin to distance and not compare. We have very young and unique roots, let's embrace them.

cheers (clink, glug, glug)

ok, that was an unnecessary dig mike. my bad.

but have you ever heard of a Venn diagram?
try one with pdga and pga, you'll be enlightened

cheers
brock

" If it ever gets down to low plunging mesh or sheer nylon jump suits unzipped to the scrotum, we may have to go to uniforms."

Disc Golf Uniforms !!!! :eek:
I could deal with Team Jerseys !!!

I vote for disc golf nude, it adds color to your cheeks.

I think any clean non torn shirt (sleeveless or otherwise), and clean, non torn shorts is good. Anyone who has golfed in Houston in the summer knows that a cotton polo is just wrong.

I vote for disc golf nude, it adds color to your cheeks.




Brings up a few new places to develop poison ivy. :eek:

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but have you ever heard of a Venn diagram?
try one with pdga and pga, you'll be enlightened
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Okay, left circle, pdga, right cirlce pga.
how the game is scored, vocabulary, basic rules of play, in the middle
manicured open fairways, beer cart, tee times and fees, in the right half,
free or very cheap fees, casual dress and attitude, on the left side

I feel dress code should be in the left circle, not in the middle. In doing a Venn diagram for (comparing) these two separate organizations I think there should be a balance. Not everything on the right or middle.
The important thing is that at least both organizations are lightening up on their dress codes, which should be decided by the players anyways. And we can still wear whatever we want during casual play!

I vote for disc golf , it adds color to your cheeks.




Brings up a few new places to develop poison ivy. :eek:



And barefoot !!! :eek: