Still Water Farm, Govan, SC is happy to announce the SC Qualifier touney Sept 23 & 24, 2006. Still Water Farm is a championship course, similar to Winthrop University.
Still Water Farm is a beautiful, somewhat secluded course with rolling hills over looking a big pond, along with some woods. We have a cabin, lodge and camping with hook ups for rv's and restrooms with showers. The Govan gang strive to provide any and all accommodations possible. Still Water Farm is approx. 15 mins from town, so the Govan ladies provide breakfast and lunches. The cabin is already reserved. There is still plenty of room in the lodge.
More info and registation form will be posted in the next few weeks.

Saturday, June 17, 2006 will be a work day at Govan. For locals and Club members we would like to start no later than 7:30 am. We want to get an early start so we can play DG later in the day. If any one from out of town would like come and help, I'm sure we can accommodate you with a place to stay the night on the farm. Further questions call Mike Norris at 803-383-1075. Thanks in advance, Missy. We will also provide a meal for the help.

Everyone who can possibly fit this event in should put it in their calendar - Govan is a very special place!

Great to hear there'll be another tournament at Still Waters this year. I couldn't make February, and it was starting to look like I'd missed my only chance at this great course.

Is it true that Govan will be shutting down soon? That rumor seems to be floating around.....

Hello Mike and Missy that sounds great.Govan is very special place and needed a event like this one.Mrs. Chambers is correct if you have not been there you should run not walk to get there.Mike Ill call you WEd. AM about coming down to help this weekend later John

yo John, I am holding Alice ransom.

What is going to cost me to get him back lol

NO, it's not true for now. Govan, Still Water Farm is a privately owned course by the mayor of Govan, Johnny Ganus.
Mr. Ganus saw the sport being played and fell in love. Mr Ganus is not a player of the sport due to his age and schedule. Govans existance is based on yearly events. Mr. Ganus provided a course out of the goodness of his heart, with the help from Tim "Shade" Hogg as course designer.
So, for Govan to succeed we need the support from our fellow disc golfers.

Hi John, good to hear from you. Hope you and Lisa are doing well. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Give us a call. Mike tried to call you this am but you are sleeping.

S.W.F./SC Qualifiers will be a B-tier event. TD will be Joey Johnson and assist TD is Mike Norris. All payers wanting to qualify for the USDGC will play from the same tee pads. All other players will play in their own division.
S.W.F. will pay the regitration to the USDGC for the winner.
We also hope to add $ to the pro purse.
Look for flyer coming soon.

I'm in it to win it. See you there. Excellent notion to pay for the entry.

I'm coming to increase my points lead on that punk Duke! :D

I heard that punk Duke has a long arm. But, we believe in you bigwheels.

Random Draw Doubles will be held Tuesdays at 5:45 and we will get started at 6p.m. Be there!!!!

Also on most Saturdays at Orangeburg at about 10:30 alot of guys come out for play.

The course should be finished and holes should be laid out for the tourney by later this week to the beginning of next week for those who would like to start practicing. Some holes have changed.
John & Chris Wright will be catering meals. We will serve meat/sandwiches along with 4 to 5 sides, desert and drink for $6.00.
Saturday night we will have a spaghetti dinner compliments of
John and Chris and the Govan gals at no charge. This dinner is for everyone playing in the tourney and your quest

This weekend July 15 & 16 is a work weekend at Still Waters Farm.
Thanks Coleman & Vanessa for sending the young men to help. They have the cabin for the weekend for helping.
We promise to take good care of Connor & Greg.
Anyone wanting to help, we may be able to put you up for the weekend as well. Friday we will play DG and have a cookout for those who are helping or want to help. We will start somewhere around 7-7:30am Sat. and finish around noon, have lunch & play more DG. Contact Mike or Missy 803-245-4111.

Check out the flyer on www.scdgo.net (http://www.scdgo.net)

The boys are looking forward to coming out and earning their keep. Sounds to me like you guys will be playing more disc golf than working, at the rate you are going!!

We have most of the course ready, just a few holes left.
Course is ready for play. We have about 3-5 players (pros and adv.) coming this weekend to get in some practice. Plus 8-10 Govanians & a few out of towners. Should be a fun weekend.

Cabin is reserved for tourney on Sept. 23-24
5-rooms at the lodge are reserved.
We still have camping & cots for downstairs at lodge and 1 room at lodge available.

Last room at lodge was just reserved. Thanks Adam.

UPDATE: Just received a couple pre reg forms from Brian Ling-adv men, Doug Barrett-adv mstr, Kraig Minkler-adv mstr.

Not pd Joey Johnson, Skipper Craddock, Mike Norris, Nancy Norton, Missy Hutto, Cuban, Coleman Thompson, Greg Thompson, Connor Thompson, Vanessa Chambers, Mark Muren, Chris "DNA" Kilgus, Dr. Mike Farnham, Jonas Card, Dave Wheeler, Andrew Duke.

Remember this tourney is for the USDGC in Rock Hill. If you have not qualified and what an opportunity to play you need to come to Govan, this is the state qualilifiers tourney. Govan is paying for the winners reg. to the USDGC.

Flyer has been posted for serveral months, go to PDGA Tour or scdgo.net

All of us from Govan/Orangeburg wish Sam Patton a speedy recovery.

If you have any questions please contact Mike Norris 803-383-1075 cell/803-245-4111 home.

Is Open the only pro division being offered since it's a USDGC qualifier? Since I'll be at the Summit in Georgia along with several other geezers, just wondering if Master or GM will be offered?

All divisions are invited to play and are more than welcome. This will be for pdga ratings and scdgo points series.
There is cots avail at the lodge for &10.60 a night. Cabin is reserved and Lodge rooms are reserved. There is also camping avail. We have a hotel in Denmark "Carolin Inn" 803-793-6900.
We provide breakfast and lunch for &5.00 to &6.00 each.
On Saturday night we will provide dinner thanks to John & Chris Wright at no charge to all disc golfers.

Chuck,
I believe all divisions are offered, but to be eligible for the USDGC spot you have to play open.That means Gold tees. :eek:

Hole #18 is a true 1/4 mile. This is called "THE TRUTH HOLE"
cause it can tell on your game. Come enjoy the challange

Govan is a great place to play golf and the truth hole is an incredible finishing hole.

Speaking of which, what will the layout be. If it is the monster 18 hole course, I will try and make it.

Chuck (and any other interested Summiteers) -

All divisions are offered.

The Govan course has multiple tees for a wide range of players, with the Gold layout at about 10,000 feet and the other layouts shorter. The alternate tees are not necessarily just shorter but often oriented differently around the various obstacles and elevation changes - in my experience the par stays pretty solid across the range of tees, quite an accomplishment, I think. And "The Truth" (hole 18) is still very truthful, even if you play from the shorter tees!

Based on my schedule, I may just try to come over and visit on a day trip Saturday to watch the action and walk the course, maybe dragging along another Summiteer or two. If The Truth is a quarter mile at 1320, it's just under our par 6 on the Gold course at Highbridge which is at least that but steadily downhill. Open, Masters and FPO get to play it at PW2007.

Do you have to be from SC to win the spot in the USDGC?

probably

The truth hole...Gold tee
Wide open hole.not a tree anywhere on the hole.you can take your pick of shots.Slight downhill off of the tee.Fairway doglegs right .After dogleg, the fairway rises slightly about a third of the way to the hole before it rolls downhill again to the basket.Sounds easy.The problem comes from the OB ropes that run down both sides of the fairway.The ropes start @ the corners of the tee box and widden out as they run away from you.I dont Know exacyly how wide the ropes get @ the dogleg but, when Shade Hogg (designer ) got back from a week @ the USDGC last year they got narrower.From the dogleg to the basket , the fairway stays the same width until it stops about fifty ft (?) from the island green ,that sometimes has been round and other times has been diamond shaped, about 60 to 80ft across.The kicker to all the OB is a wind that has been known to blow up to 30 MPH.This is just one of the great holes on this course.The fairways all have distance markers, set 50 ft apart, running down the middle of the fairway leading into the baskets.This course will let you know if you have what it takes for the USDGC. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You do have to be a SC resident

I'm not a current resident, but I was born there.

Am I eligible ?

Current Resident

PDGA registered in Rock Hill, SC?

Has it been determined which divisions are playing from which tees?

How are SCDGO points being calculated and awarded for players (hopeful USDGC qualifiers) who are not playing from the same tee pads as the rest of the division that they have been accumulating points in all year? Seems like some folks might have to make a decision on whether to play for SCDGO points in their division (or) for the USDGC spot.

Count Epicenter in for a Worlds CTP package. Good luck to all competitors!

That is how I read it. If an Amatuer wants the USDGC spot, he would sacrifice his SCDGO points and pay $65 and play Open. It wouldn't be fair to play different tees in the same division anyway, longer or shorter.

The spot is available for current SC residents. How has the USDGC or state of SC, determined this in the past? I think that it should be limited to my county.

hey can i play since i was the SC rep in 2002

I think that the Adv. Men players should play from the same tees that the pros do and if they want to pay that extra 30 bucks to compete for the USDGC spot then they should, so that way the better Am players that are wanting to try to get in can try and qualify and not lose the points for the SCDGO.

In the past when they had the SC qualifier at Chapin the Adv. and Open Men played from the same tee, so theoretically a am player shooting a better score than the Open men could have gotten in.

Im going to contact Dave Cannon about the issue since he is over the SCDGO and see what he thinks

You have to be a present SC resident or a past resident, this is my understanding from Mike per H. Duvall. Each state has their own qualifing tourneys. If you want to play to qualify for the USDGC it's $65.00. If you want to just play in the tourney you pay the regular division entry fee of the division you wish to play.

I believe the points either way will be handled as usual.

At Chapin everyone played the same tees on the same day. At Govan, Am players have not play the same tees as Open players. Dave is going to win the am division anyway so man up. I can't see players in the same division on different tees, that doesn't seem fair. Now if the same tees are used than I don't see any problem.

Hole # 18 has a little differnet layout. Tee pads are behind #17's basket. The pro tee pad plays 150 to 200 ft w/ ob stakes
then turns right along the road for 1000 or more ft to the basket. Like I said it is a true 1/4 mile hole.

DNA you need to talk to Mike or Joey they know the points & everything else from Dave And Harold. No one will lose their points from my understanding.

On Sat. Sept 23rd 2-18 hole rounds, on Sun. sept 24th 1-18 hole round, with ceremony to follow.

As I was saying, I know that Chapin has had Ams and Pros play the same tees and I know that Govan has different tees for Ams and Pros, I wasnt talking about having some Am players play from the Am tees and having others play from the Pro tees and still getting points.

What i am proposing is have the Adv. Men and Pro Men play the same tees. Its simple, its easy, and enough said.

Oh yeah, My game talks for me and right now its saying that I'm a winner. Peace, Bring It

Still curious about which tees which divisions are playing from---if decided yet. I can play in any of several divisions----can't compete in any, just play---and may make my decision based on which tees will be played.

Still curious about which tees which divisions are playing from---if decided yet. I can play in any of several divisions----can't compete in any, just play---and may make my decision based on which tees will be played.



They will decide when ready. Shade built the course, they will come.

Are you sure you want to play those big boy tees way in the back? I'm just saying, they are a long way from the basket and that gateway plastic likes to fade out.

I think that is a splendid idea to have the Ams play the same tees.

I say everyone play from the red tees and have a shootout. 1st one to 40 under par wins the USDGC spot.

Are you sure you want to play those big boy tees way in the back? I'm just saying, they are a long way from the basket and that gateway plastic likes to fade out.

I think that is a splendid idea to have the Ams play the same tees.



HAHAHAHAH! Hey now I like that gateway plastic. Well the only two discs that I like are the Wizard and Element!, But that is true, Can an Illusion go that whole 1/4 mile with out wearing itself out????

I say everyone play from the red tees and have a shootout. 1st one to 40 under par wins the USDGC spot.



playing par 70 or 54? I couldn't get there either way!!!

That is something you can discuss with Mike & Joey since they are running this tournament. I know they will listen to suggestion, not sure what they will do with the suggestions, but they are open for ideas. They have been instructed by SHADE, along with direction from others and are doing their best to set up this tourney to be as fair as possible for everyone to enjoy.

It was discussed that the pros and qualifiers play from the gold tee pads, adv men from the blues, grand masters, adv wm & interm from the whites. I do not think this is set in stone

will anybody be at Farnham's tourney on the 2nd to take registration? I had it with me at UFO but missed you guys out there... cya

yes, I will be helping with registration that morning.
See you soon.

I can definitely handle the big boy tees, if any one remembers the course was originally designed by Joey, Shade, and Myself way before any of yall knew what Govan was. And still to this day many of the holes are very similar if not the same to what we originally created.

And oh yes the gateway plastic holds up very well. S plastic, way better than DX. E plastic as durable as anything out there. And like ive said before, GATEWAY PLASTIC propelled me to my first B-tier win. I throw what works for me so dont talk about something you dont know about.

And Mike the wizards are definitely the stuff and you should try an Element X.

Coming soon the new Odyssey Power Line Driver. Try It Now

Orangeburg folks and anybody else who is interested... The Charleston DGC is having our August monthly this Saturday the 26th... "The Red Tee Massacre". Pro and Am divisions, 11 am tee off, 2 rounds, 15 bucks with top half cashing, CTPs, etc.. We would love to have you guys!! If we dont see anybody this weekend we will catch you in O'Town next Saturday!

I THROW THE ELEMENTS WITH REVOLUTION PLASTIC, THEY'RE SWEET!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Dave, I dont think Mike and I will be able to make it to Charleston because Im in Cola still recovering from the first week of classes and I believe Mike has to work and do some stuff at the Orangeburg course for the tourney next week. See everyone there.

whats the layout gonna be?

whats the layout gonna be?



TOO TOUGH for a player like yourself! hahaa

and how many times have you beaten me?

Pro, pro-master & qualifiers will play gold tees, adv men & adv masters play blue tees, adv grmasters, adv wm & intermediate will play white tees. We will play 2rounds 18 holes on sat & 1round 18 holes on sunday.

Was asked to re-announce: players playing to qualify must be a past SC resident or a present resident only.

Govan is looking beautiful. Just a few holes to finish.

me and da Captain heading down Friday night. Haven't been to Govan in forever, can't wait!

check will be in the mail tomorrow.

Looking forward to checking out the course and watching some of the action on Saturday after the Summit meeting in GA Thur-Fri.

awesome chuck - I need a caddy! see ya then!

Anyone know how pre-registration is going?

Looks like a great weekend coming up....a terrific course, John & Christine's catering service, and about 150 degrees cooler than last summer's event.

There is still room for some players. I talked to Mike Norris and he said that he has gotten calls from some NC golfers, the Greenville crew, and more. Team Chuck is enroute tomorrow morning, at least part. I heard that some folks are already there getting warmed up. It is going to be a blast like all the other Govan events. Great food, hospitality, and serious disc golf.

Pre-reg, Travis Sauls, Coral Sauls, David Sauls, Mike Martinez, Alan Beaver, Mark Muren, Carlton Howard, Mel Shuman, Brian Ling, Danny Marks, Kraig Minkler, Doug Barrett, Bill Ball, George Shaw, Dwayne Davis, Randall Sessoms, Rick Stepp.
Not pre-reg but coming, Zack Rogers, Arron Thomas, Andrew Duke, Trey Johnson, Doug Adams, Steve Johnson, Todd Griesen, and more, do not have list with me to look at. In all i believe there is approx 40-50 people pre-reg and that have called. We have someone coming from the state of Washington and I believe he is playing pro (not to qualify).
All I can help with at this time.
Hope to see you at Govan.

whos it gonna be...A sauls, mr. Rogers...wish i was going...

I Sent a check this week for me and Kirk Yoo.


Did ya'll not get it??

I haven't received it yet, maybe today. See you this wkend

as long as I still got my space in the lodge I'm cool.

speaking of which, we won't be in till close till 10. What do we need to do when we get there so I can get in the lodge?

Thanks.....PDGA tournament lists 24 pre-reged, figured it was out of date.

the REAL question is who's gonna qualify. my $$$ is on sauls... but which one?

My money is on Billy.

Zach "Cuban" Rogers gets the spot finishing in 3rd.

Carlton Howard wins in Open, Mel Shuman second.

Thanks to all the folks from Govan for another great tournament.

I hope the rumors of the course closing are not true b/c this is an amazing place to play golf. A true par 71 with every shot you can think of ( I was even throwing hyzers over trees!!) doesn't happen very often.

Me and Kirk were talking and thinking how much work had to be done to get this course to where it was and 18 must have taken 6 - 10 hours by itself! You guys rock!

Hopefully the course will stay open (or maybe just used a temporary setup for tournaments) so I can come back down!

Scores are up, however ratings are incorrect.

Missy, you have a PM about how to fix this.

Thanks to everyone involved at Govan for maintaining this terrific course, and for all the work in running the tourney, including housing and feeding half the field. I loved it so much I believe I threw more than anyone else out there.

Tip for future tournaments: Hold down the wind a little, will ya'?

no joke!!

That second shot on 17 in that 30 - 40 MPH was super hard!

Thanks to Missy, Mike, Joey, Christine and John Wright and the whole crew that worked out at Govan. That was an extreme test of golf. Congratulations to Cuban for taking the qualifier spot, you are a great rep for SC. I know I had a great time overall and learned a thing or 2 along the way.

Thanks everyone. Yes there is alot of work that goes into Govan, it takes year round maintenance plus a month of hard labor everyday just before a tourney. The gradification in doing all this work is seeing the smiles on your faces and the enjoyment of playing such a fine sport.

Congrats to Zack "Cuban" Rogers, SC US Qualifier.

No, I don't believe Govan is going to shut down. Mr Johnny was estatic with the turn out especially the PROS. He hopes to have the qualifiers at Govan again next year, so make plans now.

I agree, the wind was hazardous. Tough on the game.

Thanks to all the Govan crew. Special thanks to John and Christine Wright, the food was great. The Rock Hill boys had a great time. Much better than the crazy heat last August. Sept-Oct is a better month for a course of such magnitude. Mad props to "Cuban". We look forward to seeing you in Rock Vegas next month. Rock Hill Disc Golf Club calls "DIBS" on the cabin for next years qualifier. Crump, I hope your feelin better! See everybody next month for USDGC.

Please pass along our thanks to the property owners as well. How lucky we are that non-disc-golfers have made their beautiful property available for the aforementioned hard workers to build such a course, and for the rest of us to come out and enjoy a weekend. I was able to commute but I bet it was a wonderful play to stay and camp, for those who did so.

And wind notwithstanding, this was a goldilocks weekend---after last year's Ganus Cup (too hot) and this spring's TPC (too cold), the weather was "just right".

Can someone please fix some of the names on the results page for this tourney. Several names are wrong including mine. Chris Kilgus, Todd Griesen are several that should be corrected. Thanks. The above are the correct spellings.