OK,Here's the deal.There will be a tourney ,Hosted soon.ANYBODY interseted in going needs to give me some input so that I can put the thing together.I'm not sure where i'll host it.I'm not sure of the format.It should be at least 2 rounds .A series would be cool if more were interested and more time was spent putting it together.Next year we should have enough events in the state to make it a combined points series.Central AR will be involved.(I know with AM worlds coming up a series would have been hard to pull off anyway)So if you could help me out with this.I've been in touch with the folks of USDGC and they're waiting on my call.

Alright, I guess everyone's either tied up with World's (I dont blame you), life in general or don't want to go? We ourselves are kinda late in thinking about this, USDGC is in Rock Hill, SC, Oct 11-14, as I understand it our PDGA State Rep. (Pitch, Jr.) can pick 1 person from the state to go, I am assuming that Pitch, Jr. wants to determine this thru a "State Qualifying Tourney" Personally I want to see Arkansas represented, I don't have the skills (yet) to seriously compete but I would support and maybe even donate an entry fee to play in the qualifier if it were helping an Arkie go to USDGC. It might be cool if we had a tourney, unsanctioned?, some prizes to make it cool but the majority of money made used to actually send or help send our best golfer to South Carolina, Just my 2 cents, Deadline is Aug. 1, Pitch could get an extension if the qualifier were held after but the entry fee must be paid by Aug. 1 to guarantee an opening.

Didn't NWADGC do something similiar in the past when Keldog was State Coordiantor? Didn't Flyin G go? Fishing for input and ideas, I bet there's gonna be a bunch of open players after Tulsa's Worlds.

I don't even know the estimated cost of someone doing USDGC, something to figure out... And there is the USDGAC to consider also, still alot of good up and coming ams out there.

Just my 2 cents - I guess Tom could just pick the highest rated, or best chance of a good showing player but that someone would have to be able to afford and of course want to go.

I am also interested in how the Arkansas State Representative to the 2006 USDGC will be determined.

Arkansas has 37 "current" PDGA members. 35 Men / 2 Women

18 of the 37 live in the Washington/Benton County area.

8 of the 37 live in Fort Smith.

4 of the 37 live in Alma.

There is one PDGA member living in each of the following 7 cities- Alexander, Hartman, Little Rock, Malvern, Mena, Oark, and Van Buren.

10 of the PDGA's top 15 rated Arkansas players live in Washington/Benton County.
3 of the 15 live in Fort Smith.
1 of the 15 lives in Little Rock.
1 of the 15 lives in Hartman.

The only 6 players in Arkansas that have earned over 100 PDGA points this year all live in Washington/Benton County.

If a tournament is going to determine who gets the "bid", then the tournament should be held at Northshore, and should only include players who will be able to honor their committment to attend the USDGC.

If our State Coordinator decides not to have a tournament, and instead opts to appoint someone to represent Arkansas at the USDGC, I nominate Kelly "Keldog" Watson to be our 2006 representative.

I'm waiting for more input on this idea.After Alma Greens i'll get more involved with it.Of course if there is only a handfull of people wanting to go it'll be held where the want is the most.There are I suspect several members who havn't renewed dues and could make a good showing at USDGC.I do believe Watson is the strongest as of now.I'd like to hear from him as far as his intrest and desire.If I can spark up a tourney I will.If not i'll play it by ear.(Just want to give everyone a chance,You know,PROMOTE)

Next year, try broadcasting the Ark State's or Alma as the qualifier. It will boost attendance at both! :D

Oklahoma used the State Champs the last few years to determine their rep.

I would love to go :cool:

Next year State Champs and a couple others could be qualifyers.I still can't get the central ar boys (Or SN Boys) to respond to it.That's the problem with SN,Lack of communication or intrest.It's dead there.I mean having only 72 people at State Champs shows it.One very important member of that area will be at Alma this weekend.This guy could rally up the whole area and get em on board.So next year(No matter where we have it,Fayetteville,Ft Smith,etc.)It will be a qualifyer.Maybe the only one.

USDGC has been appointed.There were too many calls for Keldog to avoid the fact he deserves to go.I just spoke to him over the phone and he'd be more than happy to accept.The call to Poole is my next move.Good luck to our man.I'm sure he'll do us proud.You can find more on this on the NW AR board.I say anything we can do to help we step up.Next year we'll have the tourney and i'm sure we'll have many more to send in the future.

That's Awesome!! Good choice Pitch, Kelly will do us proud, all he has to do is distract his competition with a $1300 disc and then stick it to them :D

Good Luck Keldog!!

Yeah really,From what I heard he got the major screws on that purchase.Seemed to me the biggest sponser of the tourney should have gotten an invite anyway.This is our way of sticking it to them.THEN! He can sign the disc and sell it for $1,500 /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Seemed to me the biggest sponser of the tourney should have gotten an invite anyway.



All proceeds from the sale of the disc went to EDGE not to the USDGC tournament. I think it is awesome you gave him the invite.

Seemed to me the biggest sponser of the tourney should have gotten an invite anyway.



All proceeds from the sale of the disc went to EDGE not to the USDGC tournament. I think it is awesome you gave him the invite.



Discette,
Thank you for delicately handling this most troubling post from the Arkansas PDGA State Coordinator.
I want you, and others, to know that he certainly doesn't speak for me.
I assure you that "our"- that is those of us who nominated and spoke up for Keldog's right to get the bid this year- intent was not to "stick it to them".
"Them" in this case is the USDGC, Innova, and EDGE. To state that it was "our" intent to "stick it to them" by awarding the State bid to Keldog is disturbing.
I want you, and anyone else who reads this post, to understand that, for whatever reason, our State Coordinator made a thoughtless statement that reflects poorly on all PDGA members in "our" state.
Usually, he pops off like that and then goes back and edits the post.
Too late to edit this one, but I'd say an apology would be in order. :(

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Darn - that's what I call a flaming post!!!

Pitch - Will you call me tonight if you got my info for Alma.

Pitch Jr, I simply wanted to point out that Keldog did not sponsor the USDGC, his purchase provided a very generous donation to EDGE. I also said I thought it was great that he was going to USDGC.

I know darn well what your dad did for disc golf in So Cal. And I never called your character into question. That above post was totally uncalled for. Next time you go off on someone, don't let the shrapnel hit others who are nearby!!!

Enjoy your break from the Discussion board.

Point understood.I just get a little teed when (And i'm not commenting on the USDGC thing)But when our so called fellow golfers do nothing but cause problems for everybody else.Control seems to be the issue.Or lack of it as it seems now.You i'm sure know this being a part of the So Cal thing.From what I understand the Series has weakend from the same kind of problems,(Or People)The ONLY thing I care about is the development or our area.The promotion of the sport I have grown to love in almost thirty years of time.I'm sure So Cal misses my dad.I hope he and I can do for AR what he has done for the home state.Kelldog would have been the choice had we had the qualifyer or not.Like I said,He'd been he!! to beat anyway.Class Act all the way.Thanks for your input,Keep the game alive.Gotta go now,Big shrimp boil tonight,Gotta set up the pool :cool:

Well, that wasn�t exactly the response I was hoping for.
On the other hand, it was the one I expected.
Where do I start�?

Pitch wrote-

Here's a post for ya Ash,Your a freakin whining , trouble making,(Like calling the city on the new hole 18 at Northshore)unhelpful, #$*&$!



My response-
About three weeks ago, I went to Northshore and was surprised to see that the basket for hole 18 had been moved. I was confident that the club had sought, and received, approval from the city to make this change. I was very surprised that the city had approved "the move".
My issue is not with the club- they have the right to make any request of the city that they desire.
However, if the city makes a change at any city park, for any reason, I have the right to express my opinion- no matter how the change came about.

I sent David Wright an e-mail on June 5. Here it is-

"David,
I want to share with you a few of my concerns regarding the placement of Basket 18 at Northshore.
1. The Basket is too close to the parking lot, the parking lot's entrance to the park, the walking trails, and the kiosk. I would label it as an attractive nusiance. When designing a Disc Golf hole you should imagine the worst possible shot; and then plan on one being twice that bad.
2. The grassy area around the basket is going to endure significant wear and tear and will become an eyesore- right near the park entrance. People will be using that as a warm up putting basket. It will quickly become a brown circle. Mulch will help, but does nothing to change the location.
3. The ravine/drainage area immediately to the east of the basket is going to become void of vegetation, and will suffer from erosion- similar to what occurred near the creek at Gulley Park. That's how people are going to get to the basket- all around and through that small ravine. That little ravine will not be able to endure the foot traffic that is coming it's way.
The comments I have heard about the basket are as follows;
"It improves the flow of the course" "It's a cool hole" "Let's not worry about it until someone gets hit." and "Hey, if the City approved it- don't complain."
Well, I'm complaining. I don't feel improving the flow of the course outweighs the safety, or environmental, problems this move will cause. I do not want the future of Disc Golf in this area to be jeopardized because we need to improve the flow of the course, or because we want another "Cool Hole".
My only solution, for right now, would be to return the basket to it's previous placement, and to work on re-tooling more than just Hole 18. I do appreciate how willing you have been to help improve Northshore. I just think that this move needs to be reconsidered, and I wanted to express that to you.
Jeff Ash"


Club member, or not, if I had been aware that the club was considering asking the city to do this I would expressed my concerns to the club.
Club member, or not, if the city approved a club request that I was opposed to I'd express my concerns to the city.

As a courtesy, I sent a club representative a copy of the e-mail the day I sent it.

That's all for this item.

I think it would be best if Ash just stayed on his side of the fence.Posting on our side will be more on the contributing to the better of DG and should involve more positive discussion.It's funny how being around several NW folk this weekend just added to the fact that Ash does nothing more than stir up trouble and helps in no way with our goal.I'm sorry if this offends anyone in any way but you know me,I (like i've said before) got a bad habit of saying exactley what's on my mind and I seem to be speaking for the majority.Jeff in the future please just keep your thoughts and comments to the NW side of things.I've got alot to do and don't need anyone tryin to stir it up over here.(Of Course this will probably be disreguarded by THE but as everyone can see i'm trying to end this BS between you and I)Just deal with your troubles and try to do something good for your local people.OR better yet,Let them get it done and quit trying to dictate it all.Obviously it's not working for you.Just let it go Jeff,Let it go.(Ever heard that one?)The Ash thing is squashed as of today.Thank's for playing along,And if makes you feel better you win.OK? I'm wrong and you win.See Ya.

Pitch said-

Tell you what "THE" bring your game to Alma this weekend.That was the only time you beat me right?(After a 15 year layoff,I'm running the tourney,And he barely wins)



Reply-
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you design/install the Alma Course. And, before last years Alma Greens, hadn't you played that course many more times than I had. I remember you bragging on the "board" before the tournament how you were going to win.
I also remember that at the start of day 2 I had a big lead- so big that I had already decided what I was going to do with my first place winnings. I think I even told you during the final round what I was going to do with the first place cash.

Do you remember what I did with that first place cash?
Do you know how many of the Alma kids that day were using plastic that I donated to them?

It was a small, non-PDGA event, and you had help.
You designed the course, you had been playing it way more than I had, and you never got close enough to me to cause any concern.

-Remember, you brought this up. I was not going to bring any of this up on the board-

You did beat me at 2005 HOTB, a PDGA event- you got 2nd place out of three players. Shawn was only required to pay the winner in a three person division, but you ended up "cashing" for getting second place.

You got me again at the Mayor's Cup, a non-PDGA event with "added cash". You were the TD. You won a three player field. I was second.
Prize money consisting of entry fees, and $100.00 added cash, totaled $175.00. You took all $175.00 citing the PDGA's payout table for a three person field, despite the fact that it was a non-PDGA event- with added cash.

Next came the Ben Geren Blowout this year. You goaded, and bragged, and predicted a victory- but you didn't even play. You were there- either to watch, or to help Dave run his first PDGA event.
Where were you when Dave allowed an Open player to switch/drop divisions with only 7 holes left in the FINAL round?
By adding a 4th player to Open Master my payout, as the winner, was less than it would have been in a three person field.

We next met when you came to practice for the Northshore Invitational- another tournament that you claimed you were going to win. Playing in a mini, and on different cards, we were tied after 18 holes. With a gallery watching, I beat you in 4 extra holes.

Then came the Northshore Invitational, and your prediction of a victory in the Masters division.
Here's a narrative of what happened that day. Feel free to correct me...

"Event: PDGA Sanctioned �C� Tier Tournament.

Format: One day- two rounds sandwiched around a two-hour lunch.

Background: 1) This was the TD�s first PDGA event. 2) There were at least four other certified PDGA officials/TD�s present at the tournament; including the current, and former, PDGA State Coordinators. 3) The TD, and support staff, were aware of a grouping error made a few weeks prior to this event, at another PDGA �C� tier event, that negatively impacted the payouts for the Open, and Masters, division winners.

The Scenario:
Player 1- Signed up as Open Master- after making sure there were going to be enough players (3) for that division. Was informed by the TD that it was possible to change divisions prior to 9:00am.

Player 2- TD states that this player signed up as Open GrandMaster, but asked to be moved to Master- if there weren�t enough players (3) for his division. Player 2 also stated that he told the registration staff that he wanted to play Open if there weren�t enough players (3) for either of the Masters divisions.

Player 3- TD states- �I was told that he (Player 3) was the last to sign up and didn't go pro until after he knew who was in what division....he didn't make any suggestions to me about moving people.� Player 3 is the current PDGA State Coordinator. It is unclear what time Player 3 declared his division. If it occurred after 9:00 am, it should not have been permitted.

Round One
-The Card
Player 1- Noted as Open Master
Player 2- Noted as Open GrandMaster
Player 3- No Division Noted
Player 4- Noted as Open
Player 5- Noted as Open

-The Questions
Prior to the two-minute warning, and tee-off, Player 1 noticed that Player 3�s division wasn�t noted on the card. Player 1 asked Player 3 what division he was in. Player 3 said �Open�. Player 3 went on to say that when he signed up �there were 4 Open players, and 4 Open Masters players� so he decided to play Open.
According to Player 3�s statement, he became the 5th Open player when he signed up. If true, after Player 3 signed up, two of the four Open Masters then switched to Open but there is no evidence to support that.
When the tournament started there were actually a total of 7 players in the Open division. The remaining two Open players- Player 1, and Player 2- by default, and without being informed by the TD, or being offered the chance to become the 8th and 9th Open players, were left to play in a division of two players.
Prior to tee-off, Player 1 asked Player 3, and the TD, who the other Open Masters players were. Neither person could state who they were.
Player 1, and Player 2, played the first round unsure who else was in the Open Masters division with them. After 18 holes, of a one-day 27 hole tournament, players 1, and 2, found out they were, unknowingly, in a division of two players."

So, after saying that you were going to win Masters, you suspiciously enter another division, and then either lie to, mis-lead, or mis-inform, the other 4 players on your card about how many players were in their respective divisions, and leave the Masters division with only two players.
BTW Pitch- I beat your score that weekend. If Tommy and I had played Open- you would have been 4th out of 9- NO CASH!
You profited through deception, and by displaying questionable ethics.

To the best of his ability, the TD tried to resolve this matter. He has apolgized to me for what happened, and what didn't happen.

I had no intention of ever making any of these issues public knowledge. As much as I wanted people to know about this stuff, and with all of the negative comments that Pitch has made about me- directly, or indirectly- edited, or un-edited, I saw no benefit to posting it.
Clearly, I have had a change of heart.

If anyone feels that what I have just posted is inaccurate, or needs clarification, feel free to let me know.

Next issue... Why I joined WAFDA, and why I resigned.

I think it would be best if Ash just stayed on his side of the fence.Posting on our side will be more on the contributing to the better of DG and should involve more positive discussion.It's funny how being around several NW folk this weekend just added to the fact that Ash does nothing more than stir up trouble and helps in no way with our goal.I'm sorry if this offends anyone in any way but you know me,I (like i've said before) got a bad habit of saying exactley what's on my mind and I seem to be speaking for the majority.Jeff in the future please just keep your thoughts and comments to the NW side of things.I've got alot to do and don't need anyone tryin to stir it up over here.(Of Course this will probably be disreguarded by THE but as everyone can see i'm trying to end this BS between you and I)Just deal with your troubles and try to do something good for your local people.OR better yet,Let them get it done and quit trying to dictate it all.Obviously it's not working for you.Just let it go Jeff,Let it go.(Ever heard that one?)The Ash thing is squashed as of today.Thank's for playing along,And if makes you feel better you win.OK? I'm wrong and you win.See Ya.



I am not even close to being finished.
You opened the gate in the fence- both doors!- all I had to do was walk on in. Now that you asked me in, you want me to leave? I'm just getting comfortable.
Do you really think you get to post the things you have posted- in a public forum, and acting as a State Coordinator- and not get a reaction, or a response?
Do you think that you have the right to tell people not to respond to your rantings, or to tell people to ignore those who respond to your rantings?
Your comment on Keldog's appointment was inappropriate. You had a dignified way to get out of this mess, and to do the right thing.
Instead... :confused:
Put down the shovel, and let me fill in the hole you left.
It's a pretty deep hole. :mad:
When I get done, I'll close the gate on my way out.

As for the Coordinator position,Your just mad because you didn't get to play the part you were expecting to.



I have never had the desire, or the expectation, to be the State Coordinator- if that is "the part" you refer to.

As far as being "mad" about whatever you think it is that I'm mad about, "irritated", or "disappointed", would better describe my feelings about your "screws" post.

If I remember correctly, you got one vote for State Coordinator. You were part of a 4 way tie- one vote each.
I was one of only four people in the State that voted. I did not vote for you initially, but through attrition you got my "re-vote".

As a PDGA member, who also cast a vote for State Coordinator, I am entitled to use this forum to express my concerns on many issues. I didn't like what you said about how, and why, Keldog got the USDGC bid, and what the implications were. I responded to you in an appropriate manner, and then you made your choice on how to respond to me.

"Let's not worry about it until someone gets hit." and "Hey, if the City approved it- don't complain."

Jeff, I would like to know who said this. You can just pm me. No need to call anyone out.

BTW, It dose flow better and I hav'nt herd of anyone close calls by the path.

Thought so,It seemed like a pretty good move.Looking forward to seeing the rest of the design.

"Let's not worry about it until someone gets hit." and "Hey, if the City approved it- don't complain."

Jeff, I would like to know who said this. You can just pm me. No need to call anyone out.

BTW, It dose flow better and I hav'nt herd of anyone close calls by the path.



I sent you a PM.
For the record-
I agree that the hole improves the course flow.
I also really like the hole.
I think the potential safety risks, the location, and the erosion/ravine issues outweigh all of the positives.

The Series will be posted on WAFDA as soon as I can get our BUDDY Evan to make up one of his cool flyers :DHere's the scheduled series of events.Sept 16th & 17th 2006 Hell On The Border(TD Shawn LaMastus)Oct 14th 2006 Clarksville AR(TD Tommy Eddy)March 31st 2007 Northshores 2nd Annual Invitational(TD Kelly Ganzel)April 21st & 22nd 2007 Hotsprings(TD Jeff Reynolds)May 19th & 20th 2007 Arkansas State Championships(TD John Kittrel)June 16th 2007 3rd Annual Alma Greens(TD Tom Pitchford Jr)I've decided to make Alma Greens a one day event to make it equal, 3 one day events and 3 two day events.ALL PDGA SANCTIONED(4 two day events seemed a little too much)Final 18 to be held in Clarksville AR on July 9th 2007 10:am NO ENTRY FEE TO TOP 8(Top 8 overall players from the 6 events)Top overall will be decided by scores from all events.Miss an event and Par Plus 10 strokes will be added to your overall score.If one of the top 8 decides not to participate in the final 18 playoff.Then the next best score will be invited to play.THE FINAL 18 PLAYOFF WILL HAVE ALL 8 PLAYERS STARTING FROM SCRATCH :eek:That's right.If the #1 spot is 20 strokes better than the #8 spot.They're even at the final playoff.It's anybodies game from there. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gifAll Advanced and Pro divisions will play the same tee positions.Here's the Winning Purse :cool:5% of every tournament in the series will be added to the overall winners purse.This money will be used in the assistance of sending the winner to the USDGC Tournament in 2007.They win the spot ,The Cash to help in going,And the Trophy for the series as well.Oh Yeah!!! WAFDA has already thrown $200.00 into the overall winners purse.This is still based on the %5 coming from HOTB's tournament.SO were saying if HOTB is worth more than $4,000.We'll add more to the purse.If it's less? It stands at $200.00.This is just to get the ball rolling.The purse and the top 8 will be updated as each event passes.WAFDA.ORG will be site to keep up with the event standings.I hope this will lay the groundwork for the USDGC spots to come in the future.We're hoping this stimulates our state and brings more intrest to our sport in the years to come.I'm sure modifications and such will come of this trial run.It's a start.The overall picture is to make our state stronger and bring more of we all want.More Golfers,More Courses and More Good Times.Thanks,Pitch Jr.

thats right $200.00 bucks has been tossed in from WAFDA's account. it was voted on and passed. Hopefully this will let everyone know this is a serious thing that we have rolling here.

March 31st 2007 may conflict with Bowling Green.

I spoke to Ganzel about this.If you need to changing the date can be done.Just wait till the time comes and see.I was kinda in a pinch and needed to get the schedule posted.After all.HOTB is less then two weeks away.It'll all work out.No matter what we do to screw it up it'll work out.Always does.

OK I knew modifications would be nessessary as we got the ball rolling for this series.The one thing I didn't take into consideration was the fact that my PAR PLUS 10 STROKES for each event missed was based on two rounds of 18.I've realized that 3 of the series events are two days and could run 3 or 4 rounds of golf and the 1 day C Tiers will probably be only 2 of 18.(See where i'm going?)Par Plus 10 on a two round basis is 5 per 18.I'm going to have to modify this formula(And also 9 hole playoffs don't count)The formula will consist of PAR PLUS 5 STROKES PER ROUND MISSED.(That doesn't include DNF's)Unless of course it was a life threatning situation.I hope those of you involved can see the reasoning for this modification.Shawn is putting together the top 8 from HOTB.They should be posted here as well as wafdas' web site by the end of the weekend.

OK I knew modifications would be nessessary as we got the ball rolling for this series.The one thing I didn't take into consideration was the fact that my PAR PLUS 10 STROKES for each event missed was based on two rounds of 18...

I'm going to have to modify this formula(And also 9 hole playoffs don't count)The formula will consist of PAR PLUS 5 STROKES PER ROUND MISSED.



Will this modification be just for the five remaining series qualifiers, or are you making it retroactive? :confused:

I told you to Play HOB instead of Texas. :o:D

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OK I knew modifications would be nessessary as we got the ball rolling for this series.The one thing I didn't take into consideration was the fact that my PAR PLUS 10 STROKES for each event missed was based on two rounds of 18...

I'm going to have to modify this formula(And also 9 hole playoffs don't count)The formula will consist of PAR PLUS 5 STROKES PER ROUND MISSED.


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Does this mean that if I hadn't shown up I'd be looking at 3 scores of 59 (177 total) instead of the 189 that I really shot?

It has to begin with HOTB.(Evan I need you to modify the flyer)And I know you don't think your par plus 5 would really make a diffrence :eek: :D:p.Now the chances of someone making the top 8 should still be good even if they were to miss two of the events.#8 could be 30 strokes behind #1 and it's still an 18 hole playoff for the spot.Oh BTW,I played Clarksville the other day.It's not as simple as some may say (Ganzel)Tommy really only needs to modify one hole.(#4 plays too close to a picnic area)Yeah there's a half dozen easy birds' but there's also quite a few that aren't so easy.8 down there would be fantastic in a tourney situation.Tommy has done a fine job on the course.OK so here we go! Clarksville is next.I'm sorry for not having the top 8 posted yet.LaMastus was supposed to have those scores to me a week ago.I'll get em tonight I HOPE!(I know who's NOT up there)Better make these tourneys.The overall win will be worth it. ;)

It has to begin with HOTB.



I disagree.
You "modified the formula" after HOTB was over.
The "10 plus par/per event" was in effect at the time.
If someone missed HOTB their series score for the first event should be 172- not 177.
With over $1,000.00 at stake it does make a difference. :mad:

Well lets just get a vote on this.We can poll it until friday.Would you like to begin by adding a poll to your next post?I'll gladly allow the areas contestants to decide.I'll just wait until then to post the top 8.It won't affect the top 8 as it stands now but may be a factor after the next event.You are asking these questions because you are planning on going right?Thanks for the input by the way.

I forgot to mention.It's not a good idea to be suggesting that over a $1,000 is at stake.It would be nice if it were to reach that amount but we can't post or suggest that it will be.It's 5% of 6 events.(It would be safe to say $600.00 to $800.00 if we all do our part in throwing these tourneys)A Grand would be awesome.I'd like to make it our goal.That would be too sweet.Much sweeter than it already is.What we need?Added cash everywhere!!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

What you need to do is let me in your series. :mad:


Hell, I've played as many in the series as any other person in your state. And what if, the best golfer in the series isn't from Arkansas? That would be a travesty to send a representative, who is not the best golfer, he is being sent because he is all Arkansas has to offer that is a resident. :(

An Oklahoman would make a GREAT Arkansas representative and it might give Arkansas a better cahnce at the event. :o

Pitch you are the one who first mentioned the possibility of a $1,000.00 pot. You did it on another thread.
It doesn't matter if I'm playing or not.
Poll, or no poll- You set up guidelines, and now you want to change them.
What's done is done.
If you want to change it for the remaining events- that's fine.
But, to change it retroactively?