MTL21676
May 21 2006, 05:44 PM
Let's look at last weekend's Crosstown. Barry comes.

The first round, he shoots 54. The best round was 49 and 8 people beat his 49.

The second round, he ties the hot round with JJ at 49.

My question. Is it better for the ratings overall if a better player shots the best round, or kinda in the middle like Barry did?

I know that this is no where close to all the factors in determing a rating, but just think this was an interesting topic.

Moderator005
May 21 2006, 06:07 PM
The first round, he shoots 54. The best round was 49 and 8 people beat his 49.



If 49 was the best round, how did eight people beat it?

Did you mean that the best round was 49, and 8 people beat Barry's score of 54?

ck34
May 21 2006, 07:30 PM
All scores from propagators are treated equally. So what any individual propagator shoots affects the average the same as all others. However, if a propagator shoots more than 60 points below their rating, they are excluded in the calculation of SSA for that round (they still get a rating though). So, unless Barry shoots a round rated less than 975 or so (and gets dropped from SSA calc), what he specifically shoots makes no difference.

MTL21676
May 21 2006, 11:04 PM
The first round, he shoots 54. The best round was 49 and 8 people beat his 49.



If 49 was the best round, how did eight people beat it?

Did you mean that the best round was 49, and 8 people beat Barry's score of 54?



yes - that wasnt clear - sorry

MTL21676
May 21 2006, 11:14 PM
I guess the reason I ask is I was one of the 8 people to beat Barry the first round (which he then made up those two stokes and beat me in a Barry like fashion of 22 strokes) and was thinking that since I beat him by 2, my rating for the round would have been higher. But oh well

ck34
May 21 2006, 11:25 PM
I know you're not a fan of dynamic SSAs. But if you look at the results, the SSA for the first two rounds was only 0.3 different. Whether we have fixed or dynamic SSAs, your rating would have been within 3 points that round no matter which method was used, independent of Barry's score.

MTL21676
May 21 2006, 11:29 PM
yes the SSA's we're closer, although there were more blow up rounds and less hot (meaning 1000+) the second round.