rtinsa
Apr 19 2006, 03:12 PM
I saw these disc's for sale on Molnar's website. Anyone Test these puppies yet? I bet it's super meaty overstable like a firebird but more glide! 2 on the way toward's san anton.
http://discgolfvalues.com/store/images/STXmrbl.jpg
Any info would be appreciated.... :cool:
esalazar
Apr 19 2006, 03:17 PM
I doubt they have been tested much , it states they were molded 2 days ago!! Got some!!! :D
Boneman
Apr 19 2006, 03:36 PM
Got a link?
the_beastmaster
Apr 19 2006, 03:43 PM
http://discgolfvalues.com/TeeRex.htm
Boneman
Apr 19 2006, 03:56 PM
Gracias ;)
20460chase
Apr 19 2006, 04:16 PM
Tee Rex X. What a joke.
esalazar
Apr 19 2006, 04:19 PM
elaborate!!
junnila
Apr 19 2006, 04:47 PM
Yeah, I had no idea the Tee-Rex had a leopard bottom. :D:p
20460chase
Apr 19 2006, 04:48 PM
Yeah, I had no idea the Tee-Rex had a leopard bottom. :D:p
It was a short run. :D
20460chase
Apr 19 2006, 04:56 PM
elaborate!!
I just find it funny that there is a need for a more overstable version of the TeeRex, as 85% of the people out there claiming they are "flippy" just have terrible mechanics.
In the event that the plastic is somehow dictating how the disc will perform, then I guess the "X" version will be the same as what Im throwing. I cannot flip my Teerex for more than a few seconds before it hysers back. I throw well over 400' on S shots, and have a 380-400' hyser. I have the power to flip any disc I want, including this one. It just isnt needed, as I can throw a Teebird into the same headwinds and get the same shot.
The rest of my "what a joke" comment, I choose not to get any deeper into.
esalazar
Apr 19 2006, 05:03 PM
right on!! i have heard and seen good things about the t-rex. I also just bought 4 of the x's and was just curious as to the reasoning behind your sentiment!!thanks for the response and I agree!!
Moderator005
Apr 19 2006, 05:11 PM
From what I am hearing, the T-Rex is supposedly overstable for most throwers. A "T-Rex X" that is even more overstable seems to make little sense.
quickdisc
Apr 19 2006, 07:12 PM
It was made for a few flex heads. You know , guys who have to throw Super Flex all the time.
The Tee-Rex I'm throwning is just fine as it is.
Correct arm speed , technique and release is needed for optimum results. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Still though .....................first runs could get between $ 60.00 - $ 100.00 :eek:
ANHYZER
Apr 19 2006, 07:31 PM
Forget about the Tee Rex X, I have horrible form and would need a Tee Rex XXX to correct my wrist roll and off axis torque...LOL go throw sidewinders you babies /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
the_kid
Apr 19 2006, 07:45 PM
I threw a Teerex along with a Teebird and a Proto scream and the Rex was the most high speed understable of the bunch with the Teebird and Scream being similar. The rex came back but had too much movement for the D it created. The bird went about 20ft less and the scream flew the same distance. The scream had a little more low speed fade then the bird but I was still fairly impressed. Hopefully the Rex-X can be a little more high speed stable while not being too low speed overstable.
rtinsa
Apr 19 2006, 08:03 PM
It was made for a few flex heads. You know , guys who have to throw Super Flex all the time.
The Tee-Rex I'm throwning is just fine as it is.
Correct arm speed , technique and release is needed for optimum results. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Still though .....................first runs could get between $ 60.00 - $ 100.00 :eek:
Quick Disc I agree with you sir! Well put! Now I don't have to respond to some other post's! Thank You sir! :cool:
dannyreeves
Apr 19 2006, 09:03 PM
Forget about the Tee Rex X, I have horrible form and would need a Tee Rex XXX to correct my wrist roll and off axis torque...LOL go throw sidewinders you babies /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Yeah, proper technique is so overrated. Isn't it?
ANHYZER
Apr 19 2006, 09:40 PM
Forget about the Tee Rex X, I have horrible form and would need a Tee Rex XXX to correct my wrist roll and off axis torque...LOL go throw sidewinders you babies /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Yeah, proper technique is so overrated. Isn't it?
I don't know...I've never even thrown a Tee Rex or a Sidewinder, let alone thrown them properly. I just throw my Monster for hyzerflips and my Predator for turnover shots. If I need a shot to go left, I stand 90� to the left.
quickdisc
Apr 19 2006, 11:26 PM
Forget about the Tee Rex X, I have horrible form and would need a Tee Rex to correct my wrist roll and off axis torque...LOL go throw sidewinders you babies /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Yeah, proper technique is so ove . Isn't it?
Seen this comment : "if you flip the majority of your drivers when you try and throw them flat, it sounds like you may need more weight forward on your throws to get more nose down with drivers (putters require less nose down to fly well)."
Might be a wrist roll problem if everything flips.
accidentalROLLER
Apr 20 2006, 10:16 AM
If I need a shot to go left, I stand 90� to the left.
LMAO! I don't even know what this means, but it made me laugh.
How do you stand 90� to the left? And if you are hyzer-flipping monsters, you could probably be the world record holder on that powerball gyroscope thing.
ANHYZER
Apr 20 2006, 10:58 AM
If the basket is to the left, I quarter-turn to the left, rather than throw a hyzer. You should see me juggle my balls, I use 1 for each hand.
mikeP
Apr 20 2006, 11:07 AM
So I guess the Firebird is a stupid disc, because anyone with any skill can throw a Tee-bird with some hyzer and make it turn left just as hard. So all of us with the Firebird in our bag just have bad technique. Give me a break! If you do not like overstable discs, then don't use them. Why get on a thread simply bashing them and anyone who uses them? If you use X disc, then you must have bad technique....Thanks Mr. PhD of disc, we should all throw our bags out and listen to you.
I would like to say that I would love a more overstable disc with the speed and glide of a T-Rex. I have an E Spirit that kind of fits the bill, but I don't really like the plastic and the disc does not glide. For me the T-Rex is not overstable, but rather stable with a predictable finish. It is not very predictable in moderate to strong headwinds/crosswinds as it is a distance disc and flies understable when it reaches certain velocities. This is not because my technique sucks, as my longest max D disc is a Champion Beast that is flippy but can be controlled with a hyzer release. I play in Michigan and out of the last 20 rounds I've played, 18 of them have been in constant, swirling 10-15 mph winds with stronger and unpredictable gusts. I have thrown the T-Rex with snap rather than arm, with 45 degrees of hyzer and watched as it hit the ground rolling at 250'. My Tee-bird stayed in the air longer, with my Firebird doing the best. Even so, my extremely overstable Champion Firebird is only going to go 360-380' into the toughest winds. I think a more overstable T-Rex could give me over 400' predictably in the same conditions. Also, the T-Rex when put on a hard, flat line will spend 85% of its flight on a straight line, while fading for the remaining 15%. This is a very stable flight for the distance it gets. It would be nice to have a disc that flew stable for maybe 70% and fading for 30%. Innova has not come out with a butt-kicking overstable disc since the Monster, released at about the same time as discs such as the original Beast and Discraft's Wildcat. The Monster seems slow compared to today's other overstable discs such as the Flick, Speed Demon, and Spirit, and really does not fly much further in the wind than a Firebird (not to mention that I have never seen an Innova pro use a Monster rather than a Firebird).
I reiterate that I, and countless other players without hangups towards specific categories of discs would love a T-Rex X (as long as it were named something else). :D
ANHYZER
Apr 20 2006, 11:14 AM
WORD.
DSproAVIAR
Apr 20 2006, 11:54 AM
LOTS of words.
accidentalROLLER
Apr 20 2006, 12:54 PM
I hope you weren't talking about me???? I wasn't bashing anyone. I was being totally honest. I can't make a Monster do anything but dive hard left or skip like a muther.
I was just saying if he's got good technique, which i imagine he does, and he is hyzer-flipping monsters then he probably has a tremendous amount of tendon recoil and there for alot of snap(translated = torque). So he would be able to torque the hell out of one of those gyroscope balls.
ANHYZER
Apr 20 2006, 01:05 PM
1 per hand.
accidentalROLLER
Apr 20 2006, 01:23 PM
That explains why you guys are so......."testy"
ANHYZER
Apr 20 2006, 01:24 PM
We're cocky too.
mikeP
Apr 20 2006, 02:18 PM
I hope you weren't talking about me???? I wasn't bashing anyone. I was being totally honest. I can't make a Monster do anything but dive hard left or skip like a muther.
I was just saying if he's got good technique, which i imagine he does, and he is hyzer-flipping monsters then he probably has a tremendous amount of tendon recoil and there for alot of snap(translated = torque). So he would be able to torque the hell out of one of those gyroscope balls.
I just hit the reply button and you were the last message on the thread, I was not referring to any of your comments. Sorry /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
dannyreeves
Apr 20 2006, 04:02 PM
There is nothing wrong with throwing a Firebird. Yes, I could probably adjust and throw a Teebird on a knife hyzer shot but that wouldn't be very predictable. It has a lot more glide and would be harder to control. Firebirds are great. But using them for distance (and bragging about having tons of power to do it) is kinda silly.
20460chase
Apr 20 2006, 05:52 PM
There is nothing wrong with throwing a Firebird. Yes, I could probably adjust and throw a Teebird on a knife hyzer shot but that wouldn't be very predictable. It has a lot more glide and would be harder to control. Firebirds are great. But using them for distance (and bragging about having tons of power to do it) is kinda silly.
Agreed. Im not trying to offend anyone either, just saying most of you have bad technique. If it works for you, congrats, stick with it and crush me on the course with it. Its all good.
The Teerex I throw is more comparable to a Spirit or a Speed Demon than a Monster. I sold Mike Robinson a yellow one he can flip over and roll. Mike has solid technique, so its not like it cant be done by someone else. Some of you, Im sure, have the power to flip it over. I find it hard to believe some of you are doing it on a hyser release, but there are alot stronger people than I.
When I talk about throwing these, Im not talking about a flat release or S curve flight. I can S them and they will bleed right for awhile, but Im not totally flipping them. I throw with slight hyser on mainly hyser lines...it goes very far then falls out of the sky like a lawn dart. Similar to a Spirit or Speed Demon.
dannyreeves
Apr 20 2006, 06:02 PM
You are right. Most disc golfers have bad form.
thetruthxl
Apr 20 2006, 06:08 PM
I don't know if you are talking about the same TB's that discspeed is talking about. As far as spike hyzering, I like the firebird (well, the ram actually...but you's guys can't fathom a ram) so I can throw it flat and extremely high, letting the disc do the work. But to say the TB wouldn't be a good spike disc is ridiculous. It holds the same angle of release from start to finish, so it makes a more perfect suggestion b/c it won't be as squirrelly. It takes one variable out of the equation.
Like Mr. Miagi said, "First learn balance..." balance your technique giving the appropriate snap as related to the amount of arm power needed. When one side of the scale tips, the disc acts irratically.
The TeeRex X should be almost too much disc for most people, like giving an AM3 a Firebird and telling them to put it out there 350'.
ANHYZER
Apr 20 2006, 06:33 PM
There is nothing wrong with throwing a Firebird. Yes, I could probably adjust and throw a Teebird on a knife hyzer shot but that wouldn't be very predictable. It has a lot more glide and would be harder to control. Firebirds are great. But using them for distance (and bragging about having tons of power to do it) is kinda silly.
Agreed. Im not trying to offend anyone either, just saying most of you have bad technique. If it works for you, congrats, stick with it and crush me on the course with it. Its all good.
The Teerex I throw is more comparable to a Spirit or a Speed Demon than a Monster. I sold Mike Robinson a yellow one he can flip over and roll. Mike has solid technique, so its not like it cant be done by someone else. Some of you, Im sure, have the power to flip it over.
I sold Mike Robinson a 10lb. weight that he uses for anhyzers...I had it on Ebay for a while, he was the only bidder.
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/6e/c0/Cap_Barbell_10_lb_Olympic_Weight_OP_010_Exercise_E quipment1-resized200.jpg
20460chase
Apr 20 2006, 06:38 PM
LOL.
dannyreeves
Apr 20 2006, 07:12 PM
I don't know if you are talking about the same TB's that discspeed is talking about. As far as spike hyzering, I like the firebird (well, the ram actually...but you's guys can't fathom a ram) so I can throw it flat and extremely high, letting the disc do the work. But to say the TB wouldn't be a good spike disc is ridiculous. It holds the same angle of release from start to finish, so it makes a more perfect suggestion b/c it won't be as squirrelly. It takes one variable out of the equation.
Like Mr. Miagi said, "First learn balance..." balance your technique giving the appropriate snap as related to the amount of arm power needed. When one side of the scale tips, the disc acts irratically.
The TeeRex X should be almost too much disc for most people, like giving an AM3 a Firebird and telling them to put it out there 350'.
You completely missed the point.
mikeP
Apr 21 2006, 01:15 AM
When I mentioned the Firebird I was being fececious in response to those claiming overstable discs are for people with bad form. It is definetely better for many shots than less stable discs that can still be made to fly in similar patterns.
MDR_3000
Apr 21 2006, 10:09 AM
I sold Mike Robinson a 10lb. weight that he uses for anhyzers...I had it on Ebay for a while, he was the only bidder.
Now everyone knows my secret....
claya
Apr 21 2006, 12:09 PM
I thought it was Balco...
MDR_3000
Apr 21 2006, 12:21 PM
The Balco guys were helpful in the beginning. Then they started to get a lot of heat over the Barry Bonds thing. So I decided to find a more natural way to train.
20460chase
Apr 21 2006, 12:29 PM
I have a Balco Leopard.
20460chase
Apr 21 2006, 12:32 PM
When I mentioned the Firebird I was being fececious in response to those claiming overstable discs are for people with bad form. It is definetely better for many shots than less stable discs that can still be made to fly in similar patterns.
I never said Overstable discs were for people with bad form. I do agree thats whose using them though, for the most part.
What I said was people with bad form use discs that mask thier flaws.
quickdisc
Apr 21 2006, 05:01 PM
Nice , the T-XXX. How about a FireBird XX ? :D
WakandaRat
Apr 21 2006, 05:12 PM
What I said was people with bad form use discs that mask thier flaws.
If a disc helps your game, more power to them. I know when I get new shoes, I can run faster :D
ANHYZER
Apr 21 2006, 06:38 PM
When I mentioned the Firebird I was being fececious in response to those claiming overstable discs are for people with bad form. It is definetely better for many shots than less stable discs that can still be made to fly in similar patterns.
I never said Overstable discs were for people with bad form. I do agree thats whose using them though, for the most part.
What I said was people with bad form use discs that mask thier flaws.
Most people should be throwing Dragon's then. I throw a Dragon-L, by far the disc with the most float.
eddie_ogburn
Apr 24 2006, 11:26 AM
A dragon with a leopard bottom... nice.
20460chase
Apr 24 2006, 06:05 PM
Your probably right. Or at the very least they should be using Roadrunners, Sidewinders and beat TLs. If you learn to throw these types of understable discs, you will be able to throw anything. Regardless of arm strength.
I watched Cale throwing beat up predators a mile on Sunday. Hes got excellent snap, form and great power. Like I said, I dont find it hard to belive, I find it uneccesary for most players. Watch at the next tourney you play and watch a bunch of people throwing Teerexs and Monsters when they should be throwing Wraiths or Surges at best. Even more should be throwing SLs, Avengers, Illusions, or plain fairway drivers. 30-40ft doesnt matter when your still 160' away.
quickdisc
Apr 24 2006, 07:33 PM
I have noticed though , when I play east of the rockies , I need less stable plastic. Or put more turn on the disc.
Out West , you need stable to overstable plastic. Otherwise , you'll get run over.
ChrisWoj
Apr 25 2006, 07:04 PM
If I need a shot to go left, I stand 90� to the left.
LMAO! I don't even know what this means, but it made me laugh.
How do you stand 90� to the left? And if you are hyzer-flipping monsters, you could probably be the world record holder on that powerball gyroscope thing.
I witnessed a player that is also a local brick-layer (his hands are like monstrous clamps) do that... he's a huge dude... pulled back and then whipped his arm around and got such snap it sounded like a gunshot... his Monster most definitely hyzer-flipped. I was amazed.
ANHYZER
Apr 27 2006, 11:48 AM
Sounds very familiar...Yesterday I played with 2 monsters glued together. Great new disc, goes straight if you throw with a touch of hyzer. Tell your boy about it, he'll like it.
rtinsa
Apr 27 2006, 12:13 PM
Just got mine in the mail yesterday. They say PDGA approved on the Star STamp. They feel like they have a little wider rim and def. more dome on the top of the disc. Should I throw one? That is the ? I think I might, ;) or just wait for an official release.
widiscgolf
Apr 29 2006, 09:54 PM
Sweet Mix of Colors....
http://www.widiscgolf.com/pdga/trexx1.jpg
quickdisc
May 08 2006, 06:07 PM
Sweet Mix of Colors....
http://www.widiscgolf.com/pdga/trexx1.jpg
They had these for sale at La Mirada this past weekend for $ 25.00
rtinsa
May 08 2006, 11:22 PM
Great Tourney. To play in I here.
quickdisc
May 09 2006, 05:59 PM
Should be a clip on discgolf TV soon.
boredatwork
Dec 04 2006, 03:06 PM
I ordered a pair of these TRXs when they were released and a couple of the newer Wraith-X discs in the champion plastic and I thought I'd post a comparison since they look nearly identical by profile and I have had success throwing each. (11 speed discs are just fun to throw)
The Plastic
First of all, the Star plastic used for the TRX has a unique texture to it. The top surface of the few I have touched have a very fine ridge-like texture on the top surface of the disc. These ridges form many (hundreds?) of concentric circles pretty much exactly like the surface of a vinyl record. If you run your finger along a radius of the disc it makes a little noise since you've got ridges on your fingertips as well. It is also made of the generation of star plastic that feels almost chalky and scuffs very easily on hard surfaces. Personally, it's a great feeling plastic, but the durability is not like champion plastic.
The Wraith-X also have a somewhat unique plastic as well. The champion plastic is very translucent and firm. Not quite as stiff as some teebirds and firebirds in champion that i've felt before, but very nice. It is also pretty smooth on the surface (still grips very well) and just feels great in my hands. So far the plastic seems very durable though i've tried to avoid throwing mine onto concrete. It really looks like higher quality plastic than i'm used to seeing in champion, and I wouldn't mind seeing the same in more disc molds.
The Shape
Looking at the profile I can't tell these discs apart. It is possible that the Wraith-X have a nose on the upper surface that slopes downward slightly more as it approaches the rim, but I'm not sure if this is a mold change or part of how the plastic cooled.
The Flight
So how do they throw? If you have thrown other 11 speed drivers then you should already know if the wider rim is going to bug you or not. I can get a tighter fist on a teebird, but the concave bottom lip feels good and doesn't end as sharply as the nose on orcs do. These two discs feel similar to orcs though, and not surprisingly, they fly similar as well.
I think Dave D mentioned the TRX wasn't quite as stable as was expected and I would tend to agree that they fly similarly to my other STRs. Right at release the TRX can turn a bit but it will flatten more quickly and then begin to fade and continue to fade slightly more quickly than a regular teerex. I tend to conceptualize the flight of a Firebird as being "flat" because when the disc is released it generally does not turn at all but holds that angle until it wants to fade. The TeeRex-X has a more "round" flight pattern since it will turn initially, but always comes back, unlike a TeeRex that has become worn and turns for the majority of its flight.
The Wraith-X behaves more like a beat-in TeeRex. When thrown hard it will hold a slight turn for a while (majority of its flight) before eventually and predictably coming out and fading. The difference between this and a standard (new) wraith and a beat-in teerex is that it always wants to fade as it slows down even though it has no problem turning (flipping) if you put the mustard on it.
Max?
Finally, if you would want to compare these to the Max disc, the Max seems to more closely resemble a Firebird and has a much "flatter" flight pattern that holds its initial release angle until it wants to start fading. In my experience the Max will start fading 2/3rds into its flight and continue to become more perpendicular to the ground until it makes contact. I have never thrown a disc that can achieve further reaching skip shots than the max. Because of it's flat lower lip, it doesn't seem to lose much momentum after it contacts the ground and likes to leap in the air like a really fast (long) whippet.
Furthur
Dec 04 2006, 03:35 PM
The Plastic
First of all, the Star plastic used for the TRX has a unique texture to it. The top surface of the few I have touched have a very fine ridge-like texture on the top surface of the disc. These ridges form many (hundreds?) of concentric circles pretty much exactly like the surface of a vinyl record. If you run your finger along a radius of the disc it makes a little noise since you've got ridges on your fingertips as well. It is also made of the generation of star plastic that feels almost chalky and scuffs very easily on hard surfaces. Personally, it's a great feeling plastic, but the durability is not like champion plastic.
I had some of the 1st run champion valks that had this type of pattern. I believe early vikings did as well. They called them "zipper" vikings because of the sound your fingernail made when you ran across the disc.
gnduke
Dec 04 2006, 04:01 PM
Most first runs I have tested have this pattern. I think that it is a residual of the machining of the molds and that the molds become smoother (more polished) over time.
boredatwork
Dec 04 2006, 04:11 PM
Or, possibly, the ridges are from machined molds that are temporary for the prototype process and when a particular mold gets the green light for larger runs, a more permanent mold is created that is also smoother on its surface.
tafe
Dec 04 2006, 05:45 PM
It's more likely just the new mold breaking in. I believe all molds are machined as oppsed to forged (as that would be near impossible, and not cost effective). Besides that a mold costs like $10,000 so I don't see the possiblity of a prototype-only mold.
DreaminTree
Dec 04 2006, 07:24 PM
Prototype mold tools are usually made out of softer materials, like aluminum. Easier, faster, and cheaper to make than using hardened tool steel. The disadvantage is that the mold can be easily damaged, when a part gets stuck in it and someone goes in with a screwdriver or something to get it out. Also, the mold will wear out faster and will start to flash, etc. after a limited number of hits.
I would say a more likely explanation is that the mold wasnt fully polished for the first run. You can cut a mold and have it be fully functional, but still show some tool scallops. You give it a nice polish when you're sure its ready. Every time you make a change, you need to re-polish. I would bet they just didnt bother polishing the molds until they were sure they were getting the right part geometry.
EricJKopit
Dec 05 2006, 12:56 PM
It's more likely just the new mold breaking in. I believe all molds are machined as oppsed to forged (as that would be near impossible, and not cost effective). Besides that a mold costs like $10,000 so I don't see the possiblity of a prototype-only mold.
$10000 for the mold? That is way too low, I believe. I do product development for a living, and molds as big as a golf disc would probably be at least double that.
-E
20460chase
Dec 05 2006, 03:17 PM
Ive been told anywhere from 6k to 18-20k. The latter being quite awhile back.
DreaminTree
Dec 05 2006, 08:48 PM
It's more likely just the new mold breaking in. I believe all molds are machined as oppsed to forged (as that would be near impossible, and not cost effective). Besides that a mold costs like $10,000 so I don't see the possiblity of a prototype-only mold.
$10000 for the mold? That is way too low, I believe. I do product development for a living, and molds as big as a golf disc would probably be at least double that.
-E
I dont know, $10,000 could be a reasonable price for a 1-cavity mold with no EDM or action, even if it is that big. A disc mold is really just a ton of finishing passes with a ball end mill. There wouldnt be any real mold design for the machine shop, just CNC time. Its possible to get smaller but more complicated 4 (or even 8) -cavity molds made in china for less than that.
Not saying $10k isnt very low, but it is definitely attainable.
citysmasher
Dec 11 2006, 10:35 PM
I got two new tourney stamp DX TeeRexs in a trade.
These things are serious. It appears that the added a notch similar to a Predator to a TeeRex.
It also appears to me that the notch is an insert in the mold. The finish on the notch is different.
I am wondering if that is what Innova is doing, just changing the notch insert in the tool for L, X , etc.
All in all the Dx Teerex appears to be a long winged Predator (to me) with a flat top. Maybe like a Flick.
I will trade these two if anyone wants them. Looks like they have been field thrown maybe ten times.
boredatwork
Feb 21 2007, 03:50 PM
I have been throwing the newest TeeRex and wanted to report my first impressions. I have thrown the Golden State Classic stamped max weight champion TRXX a bit as well as a newly molded max weight Star Teerex with standard production stamp (same new mold concavity on top of wing).
I do like the feel of the plastic and the discs feel pretty good in the hand. the bottom lip is similar to a wraith and is mostly straight, not concave like the Wraith-X or the proto stamped TeeRex-X from last year. The top of the wing, however is noticeably different as it is slightly concave much like a Whippet-X or Z-Extreme but much less pronounced. I suspected this would decrease glide, but in practice this didn't seem to be true.
When thrown totally flat or with a very slight hyzer these discs (brand new) fly very straight for a very long time and eventually fade out. I honestly expected a whole lot more overstability for a brand new disc. I am loving the Star Max and was hoping for a similarly overstable disc with some extra glide in its flight. Even though the stability, to me, is disappointing I was actually very surprised with the amount of glide the disc displayed. While it was flying straight it seemed to hold its elevation very well.
I am going to keep my Max for headwinds and skip shots but I am going to continue experimenting with the new Teerex-x mold for low ceiling or tight fairway drives as it seems to hold the line you give it very well.