What everyone been waiting for STAR FIREBIRDS !!!!!!!!

I'm excited

Zonedriven and Discgolfvalues have'm

I'll have mine next week, we'll see how they fly

Nice grammar. :p

Nice grammar. :p



You have a nice complete sentence there, Mr Big.
:D

I'm suprised Colin didn't start this thread...

Nice grammar. :p



You have a nice complete sentence there, Mr Big.
:D



Yeah, I could probably learn so much from you. You sound very intelligent.

I'm suprised Colin didn't start this thread...


No Way I would tell anyone else! I want them all to myself. My pre-order went in a long time ago.

Nice grammar. :p



You have a nice complete sentence there, Mr Big.
:D



Yeah, I could probably learn so much from you. You sound very intelligent.



Well, if that is the best you can come up with, then ok. I will try in the future not to use words with more than five letters.

PS: sorry about using ( future and letters as they are six )

letters is seven!

letters is seven!



Awe come on now, I was testing him, not you. Now I have to send you the cookie.


Can't wait unitl my Fbirds get here next week

I feel dumber just reading this thread.

I'll have mine next week, we'll see how they fly



I bet they hyzer.

I feel dumber just reading this thread.



Yeah, Eric has that affect on people.

I'll have mine next week, we'll see how they fly



I bet they hyzer.



No man. Just like the TeeWrecks, I bet they flip like a valk. :D

Did you know if you have a left to right fairway you can actually throw a predator and it will hyzer around the world and end up where a normal turnover would have?

That's just what I've heard.


P.S. I am really looking forward to this firebird. I've had my old standby ProLine for a long time, she's getting old and tired.

I tested a 175 yellow this weekend.
into a mild headwind 15-20 mph this disc is very stable but not as overstable as a champion FB, I'd compare it to the candy proline run of firebirds. If thrown straight it will stay straight then hyzer towards the end of its flight, which is great now i don't have to hunt those prolines down.

Prolines? Like the proline that was the same as todays champion are you talking about?

I believe thats what he means, the champion Pro line from about 2 or 3 years ago. which is now call just champion

If so thats sweet!!!

I think the pro line flies a little longer then the champion. If the star is like the pro line then awesome.

Pro line (from a couple years ago) = Champion.

I'm sorry. You'r right. They are the same disc. I must be wrong. I mean the champion beast is the same as the star right?

when i say proline, I'm talking about the post CE pre Champion, i've found that they're just a little less stable than the new Champion FB.

no, but it is the same, they just started stamping them different.

Like the STAR Orc is the Same Disc as the Special Blend Orc is a better comparison.

They just changed the name of the plastic

maybe the ones i have are beatin but they seem to fly farther/straighter than the new champions that i have.

Why does every thread turn into the same discussion?
".....the difference between FX, FB, FL and candy pro line, pro pro, pro proline, soft pro, gummy champion, champion edition, and KC/CE blend....."

Why does every thread turn into the same discussion?
".....the difference between FX, FB, FL and candy pro line, pro pro, pro proline, soft pro, gummy champion, champion edition, and KC/CE blend....."



because molds/plastics/stamps are always changing or varying

I'll have to check out the Star FX when it's released.

I hope they are as stable as my original CE Red Firebirds.

im pretty sure that dave said proline (the pro candy ones) are fl not f or fx, therefore they are a little less stable.

I'm sorry. You'r right.



Apology accepted!!! :D

im pretty sure that dave said proline (the pro candy ones) are fl not f or fx, therefore they are a little less stable.


Yeah, you are right. BTW, thanks for not hijacking the thread. Some other gateway guys are notorious for that. I can just see scouter now "....blah, firebird, blah just throw an E-Spirit, blah, blah...."

Shhhhh.......... :D

Why would I say throw and E-Spirit? I'm trying to win out there, why would i encourage behavior that would challenge that. throw an E-Spirit! JK JK while I think everyone should, I also think people should choose the disc that flies better for them, not because a bunch of message board addicts tell them too.

:confused: Are you sure you're a gateway guy???? :p J/K

I can't wait to get some star firebirds! The only thing I don't like about Champion Firebirds is the grip. Now that they are in star plastic I will actually be able to rip those hyzer's like I've dreamed about. :D

Just for the record spirits are better though.

Ok there dude.

Trust me I already knew it's the pre Champion. I just wanted to make clear he wasn't talking about the recent Pro Firebird FL mold.

I have 2 new Star Firebirds now in my hand and I am drooling. I'm a big fan of the fire chicken and this has been the bag. Good job Innova!

I'm loving the feel of my new Star Firebird and I can't wait to get out and throw it. Anyone else think it feels much softer and thinner in the flight plate than other Star discs??

I thought I read that these were the FX mold, but I keep hearing they fly more like an FL. Anyone know for sure?

They don't fly like an FL in my opinion.

I tried out one this weekend and it was just as overstable as my champion FX, which is just a couple of months old.

I'll know tomorrow. I no expert but the Firebird FX mold is my puppy. I have been snapping them for 5 years. Have 2 in the bag and 4 new ones at home. I just got the Star FX today and yes I love the feel and yes they look pretty darn close the the original CE FX. I know I am looking at both right now.

I would say they have to be the same. I'll know more tomorrow at lunch if the weather is nice.

Hamm

I'm loving the feel of my new Star Firebird and I can't wait to get out and throw it. Anyone else think it feels much softer and thinner in the flight plate than other Star discs??

I thought I read that these were the FX mold, but I keep hearing they fly more like an FL. Anyone know for sure?



The ones I have are FX, I have 3 , 2 used and 1 new. they are FX lips

im pretty sure that dave said proline (the pro candy ones) are fl not f or fx, therefore they are a little less stable.



Thank you. Now someone please make sure that The_Big_Crybaby reads this again.

DX Firebird- FX Type Mold

CE Firebird FL- FL Type Mold

CE Firebird F - FL Type Mold

CE Firebird FX - FX Type Mold

ProLine(NowChampion) Firebird- FX Type Mold

Champion Firebird FB- FX Type Mold

Pro Firebird - FL Type Mold

Star Firebird FX - FX Type Mold


It's not that hard people. HEHE :D



ALSO the Star Firebird FX disc is the more stable Firebird. I believe Dave saying that the Star Firebird FL (less-stable) will get made sometime down the road.

Don't forget that alot of the last run of CE Firebirds got out of the factory with just an F on the bottom. And those were definitely FX.
Just feel under the nose of the disc!
- bead + concave = FX
- no bead + smooth (flat, as opposed to concave) = FL
That's it.

Correct tafe!!! I forgot the mention that. I'll modify my post.

tafe:

I added it to the list here.


DX Firebird- FX Type Mold

CE Firebird FL- FL Type Mold

CE Firebird F - FL Type Mold - Early Runs

CE Firebird FX - FX Type Mold

CE Firebird F - FX Type Mold - Last Runs

ProLine(NowChampion) Firebird- FX Type Mold

Champion Firebird FB- FX Type Mold

Pro Firebird - FL Type Mold

Star Firebird FX - FX Type Mold

I'll just have to stick with my coveted 150g gummy Champion FBs until I can twist Dave's arm (ear?) enough to run 150-class STAR FXs. 150 drivers feel SOOO good in my hand, so it's nice to have a true wind-beater in 150-class.

I added it to the list here.


DX Firebird- FX Type Mold

KC Pro FX

I had the DX already listed but thanks for adding the


KC Pro FX. I forgot about that one.

im pretty sure that dave said proline (the pro candy ones) are fl not f or fx, therefore they are a little less stable.



Thank you. Now someone please make sure that The_Big_Crybaby reads this again.



Umm, he is wrong. The Proline were FX. Nice try tardo. :D

I'll just have to stick with my coveted 150g gummy Champion FBs until I can twist Dave's arm (ear?) enough to run 150-class STAR FXs. 150 drivers feel SOOO good in my hand, so it's nice to have a true wind-beater in 150-class.



We tried and failed to run Star Firebirds in 150 class. (except for x-parts)

For what its worth I throw with a decent amount of snap and these star firebirds are way stable for me... They feel sweet and don't flip very easy..PIGZZZZZ

Is it my imagination or do STAR discs get more and more grippy as they get older... I have a Teebird from when they first came out.

It's white and when I got it, it was pretty slippery... now that I've played with it for a while... it's pretty grippy.

just an observation :D

Yeah, Dave D. said a while back that the Star plastic seemed to have better grip the more it was used. I've noticed that they almost feel grippier to me when they're wet, and the more I wash them with soap and water the better they feel, too.

Back on to Firebirds, I love mine so far. Only a handful of throws with it, but it flies great and I love the softer plastic compared to the stiff Champ FXs.

Jaymo.. Just like NIGHSHIFT Orcs and SB discs STar discs will get grippier as they get dirty and wear in.... The NIghtshift orcs when beat in got tacky almost to the point of being sticky.

I took the star Teebirds out of my bag because I honestly don't like them right now, but I can't wait to see how grippy my Starwinder will get this summer.

-Scott Lewis

15 to 20 mph thrown in direct headwind and left to right cross headwind....

anybody want 4(of the 5 i own)thrown only 5 times in a grass field and having no marks on them???

only use for me is as a knifing dart throw that i use maybe once a year....

this disc is OUTTA HERE!!!!!

keith

Send them to me /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

15 to 20 mph thrown in direct headwind and left to right cross headwind....

anybody want 4(of the 5 i own)thrown only 5 times in a grass field and having no marks on them???

only use for me is as a knifing dart throw that i use maybe once a year....

this disc is OUTTA HERE!!!!!

keith



Hey Keith,

Ill take some in trade for what you OWE :eek:
:D

Ill see you at the Golden State Classic :cool:
:D

What everyone been waiting for STAR FIREBIRDS !!!!!!!!

I'm excited

Zonedriven and Discgolfvalues have'm

I'll have mine next week, we'll see how they fly

Got mine the day b4 they were officially released and I got my 2nd thumber ace ever the very next day on the first throw with it.

no, but it is the same, they just started stamping them different.

Like the STAR Orc is the Same Disc as the Special Blend Orc is a better comparison.

They just changed the name of the plastic

THe Star Orc has not been made yet.

What everyone been waiting for STAR FIREBIRDS !!!!!!!!

I'm excited

Zonedriven and Discgolfvalues have'm

I'll have mine next week, we'll see how they fly

Got mine the day b4 they were officially released and I got my 2nd thumber ace ever the very next day on the first throw with it.



how does it thumb compared to champion and old ce?

15 to 20 mph thrown in direct headwind and left to right cross headwind....

anybody want 4(of the 5 i own)thrown only 5 times in a grass field and having no marks on them???

only use for me is as a knifing dart throw that i use maybe once a year....

this disc is OUTTA HERE!!!!!

keith



Hey Keith,

Ill take some in trade for what you OWE :eek:
:D

Ill see you at the Golden State Classic :cool:
:D



which color do you want the 1/4 of the 1 disc from??? :D

i can easily divide it into quarters so that you have an even 20 dollars worth of plastic to take in trade :eek:

i'd be happy to pay you 1&1/4 discs instead of a 20 spot as i'll never throw the discs again

15 to 20 mph thrown in direct headwind and left to right cross headwind....

anybody want 4(of the 5 i own)thrown only 5 times in a grass field and having no marks on them???

only use for me is as a knifing dart throw that i use maybe once a year....

this disc is OUTTA HERE!!!!!

keith



Hey Keith,

Ill take some in trade for what you OWE :eek:
:D

Ill see you at the Golden State Classic :cool:
:D



which color do you want the 1/4 of the 1 disc from??? :D

i can easily divide it into quarters so that you have an even 20 dollars worth of plastic to take in trade :eek:

i'd be happy to pay you 1&1/4 discs instead of a 20 spot as i'll never throw the discs again



I like RED..

We can always deal for the other 3/4 :D

sorry i traded them straight up for 2 sl and 1 tl...
couldn't stand to have them near me very long....

i do love the one that i purposefully launched at full speed into a tree from about 10 feet as when it bent in half and flexed back it now has a dome and flies pretty dammn good :D...
i kept it also

see you soon
keith

What everyone been waiting for STAR FIREBIRDS !!!!!!!!

I'm excited

Zonedriven and Discgolfvalues have'm

I'll have mine next week, we'll see how they fly

Got mine the day b4 they were officially released and I got my 2nd thumber ace ever the very next day on the first throw with it.



how does it thumb compared to champion and old ce?

It is more like he Pro plastic.

It's an excellent disc. I know I did the right thing when I dumped my CE Firebirds on Ebay last month.