Tar Heel Tournament
April 29-30
NC Disc Golf Champions Series Event
C-tier 4 rounds

Division entries are as follows: Intermediate-$20, Advanced-$25, Pro-$45

For online registration go to the UNC Disc Golf club website:

http://cf.unc.edu/discgolf/

The tournament fier can also be downloaded there.

The other option is to mail a check to me, payable to Matthew Halton Smith.

Make sure to include:
1.Name
2.PDGA #
3.Division
4.email address
5.mailing address

Matthew Halton Smith
213 Columbia Place West
Chapel Hill, NC 27516

Yes, that is a tournament "fier"

Get yours now!

thanks for getting this up matt

GL in bowling green

Thanks, MTL. I had tons of fun, there are some really great courses in BG. The final nine was some of the toughest wind I have ever played in. We didn't realize it at the time, but there were tornado watches in neighboring counties while we were playing.

Can't wait for the Tarheel! So glad it isn't in the middle of July this year. Sunday afternoon was a rough one for me last year.

This fish is in and I Cant wait.

Players party at Sheffy's house Sat after the second round. There will be beverage and food provided. More details later in the month.

Lot's of new trapazoid (very nice and long enough) teepads and some new holes since the last tarheel. Many club members (not myself) have been giving a yoemen effort to get the course to the next level. Come on and check it out.

Doubles on Sat at 2pm and Monday at 6pm

i'm in just pay-pal(ed)

man i can not wait for this one what a fun course. so i was there the week before buckhorne and the layout was the same as last year. i heard about the new tee pads which sound sweet but what other changes have been made??

For the most part, the course is the same. Some of the new pads make the holes a little longer than were played last year. Also, we have cleared a good bit of brush on the left side of #13 (long, uphill, turns gently left, plays ~500 ft) and added a few alternate pin positions. For the tournament, we'll be using mostly (if not all) of the original pin positions, as many of the originals are not in sleves, but rather anchored directly into the concrete. A full description of layout and OB will be posted soon.

thinking this may be a possibility :D

For the most part, the course is the same. Some of the new pads make the holes a little longer than were played last year. Also, we have cleared a good bit of brush on the left side of #13 (long, uphill, turns gently left, plays ~500 ft) and added a few alternate pin positions. For the tournament, we'll be using mostly (if not all) of the original pin positions, as many of the originals are not in sleves, but rather anchored directly into the concrete. A full description of layout and OB will be posted soon.



We playing one set all weekend or you guys going to move them around day to day?

/me votes for the former.

This tournament brings back really, really painful memories. On top of those memories, seriously hung-over memories too. Good times.

Move 'em around?!? I'm gonna be running around with the baskets, you're gonna have to jump-putt chase me!!!!

Seriously, we'll keep one format for the weekend, the course does not have a well defined SSA, a constant format should help resolve that as well as satisfy the majority of people.

What do people think about OB? More OB?, less OB?, crazy checkerboard-style OB? :eek:

How much yellow rope you got?? :D

the creek on 8 should be casual.....being wet or dry there is dumb luck.

the creek on 8 should be casual.....being wet or dry there is dumb luck.



I agree!!

I like the ob last year on 3 - wasn't an island green,but it punished you for going left. I have also always loved the OB on 4 - makes you think

The creek on 8 is pretty dumb - make is casual!

Def put ob on 3, 4, and 6. Island green would be sweet on 15 as well. I played it today and the course is looking good. Its real cleaned up but its playing pretty easy. I think I shot a -9 or -10 in my work clothes.

Thanks for all the kind words about the course. Diamond in the rough. . .

We've got four more pads to put in before the Tar Heel Tourney, including one tomorrow on hole 10... come on out and help! Carolina Disc Golf Club members, Campus Rec, and other volunteers have been pulling together the cash and labor for this coursework for over a year and a half... and we're ALL MOST DONE!! check out www.unc.edu/discgolf (http://www.unc.edu/discgolf) ...

Other good news: Carolina Brewery just told us they're sponsoring for the first time this year. Many other cool sponsors...

later players,

Furious

What do people think about OB? More OB?, less OB?, crazy checkerboard-style OB? :eek:



There is a santrap type pattern of different colored grass on #3 that would make that hole very interesting instead of the island greens in the past. OB over the creek and a sandtrap in front, would make people think even more.

Always been a big fan of the creek on the left and in front of #4, makes the adv/pro crowd think but doesn't make it too hard but really makes the Int(s) think about what to do there.

#5 had debated (last year) about putting an ob pond/sandtrap on the right side of the green (off the slope of the hill).
Makes that hole a little tougher for leftys.

#6 I saw the new pin placement you guys put in, I would rather have seen that on the other side of the fairway so that's a righty turnover, but don't know if you are going to play the orig there or not. This is another hole that could benefit from a sandtrap in front of the pin that you either have to go around or over.

something to think about, you could define a large sandtrap type obstacle, if you land in it you get relief (forced) behind it but no penalty stroke. Make it big enough and a long put still nets you the 2 but more likely to be a three. (may be a crazy idea but it's out there).

#8 definitly casual. I should have done that last year but I didn't.

#15 island green would be fun, but might slow down the Int(s) and women so a progressive would probably be in order for speed of play.

A bunch of guys (and a gal) poured the new pad on hole 10 today. With three more pads before the 29th, we've got our work cut out for us... we'll be pouring hole 11 next weekend. Then 12 and 13... email carolinadisc@unc.edu to find out how to help...

BTW, the last three people to hit the ace-pool cash at the Carolina course have all been helping out with the pads... no guarantees!

furious

Def put ob on 3, 4, and 6. Island green would be sweet on 15 as well. I played it today and the course is looking good. Its real cleaned up but its playing pretty easy. I think I shot a -9 or -10 in my work clothes.


If you shoot 9 or 10 down then that's just hot golf. If anything it's playing harder right now based on some of the permanent teepads and the basket moved back on 10. The average score for the winner in open last year was only 8 down. Maybe we should just pencil you in? /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :D :p

Def put ob on 3, 4, and 6. Island green would be sweet on 15 as well. I played it today and the course is looking good. Its real cleaned up but its playing pretty easy. I think I shot a -9 or -10 in my work clothes.


If you shoot 9 or 10 down then that's just hot golf. If anything it's playing harder right now based on some of the permanent teepads and the basket moved back on 10. The average score for the winner in open last year was only 8 down. Maybe we should just pencil you in? /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :D :p



Eddie's playing every hole par 4...

I got lucky. I guess getting holes 2-7 helped. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

U guys r scaring the crap out of me with all this OB talk. If there is one thing i know is that i am very good at finding OB. so i the less the beter for me, if i can even make this tournament.(But in all honesty my vote does not matter and u guys go back to what ever u guys are talking about.)

I'm sending $ today. Can't wait to play my first Tarheel tourney. I'm 0-3. The more OB, the more interesting things get. When in doubt, rope it off.

Anything goin' on the Friday before? doubles....casual... hope to be there in the early afternoon.

There will be a Doubles game Friday before the tourney-- with an Ace pool in effect-- and people will be hanging out at Sheffy's Friday night, too. (We've got Carolina Brewery to sponsor the tourney this year...so we'll have lots of keg beer to drink!)

By that Friday, the concrete on our last pad should be dry and the OB's should be marked.

Also, we're going to build a t-pad tomorrow on hole 11 (9am) and another on hole 12 early Sat morning. Please join us... Find out how at unc.edu/discgolf.

Finally, I just got word from Innova (also a sponsor) that our order is being completed today and should arrive this week. Lots of cool Carolina Disc Golf Club stamped discs (pro line Aviars; Wraith; and Starfire)...

More later,

Furious

Sounds like you guys are on it again this year my brotha from anotha motha. can't wait to see all the new Tee pads. i am bringing a group of beach bums with me this saturday to introduce them to the Gem that is the tarheel. i will be bringing some interesting CTP's for you guys again this year so i will holla at you saturday morning on that and see what we can do to help you guys get a pad or two poured.

/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

rope it all off, anything other than an ace is OB!!

^^^^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^^^^^^

I like navigating the islands!

We've now installed two more t-pads: holes 11 and 13! And, we've got the foundation built for the last pad on hole 12... pour that quickcrete and we're done. Built eleven pads to complete the whole course...

Stamped Carolina Disc Golf discs arrived the other day with all the tournament prizes from Innova. Lots of goodies!

Stamped Carolina Disc Golf discs arrived the other day with all the tournament prizes from Innova. Lots of goodies!


What kind of discs are they? Are you gonna be selling them or just giving them to folks who are at the tournament? Mitch and I really love this tournament, but the 1700 miles between us and Chapel Thrill make it a bit difficult to get there this year. Hope you all have fun without us!

What do people think about OB? More OB?, less OB?, crazy checkerboard-style OB? :eek:

Go get the red head step child in Charlotte since he started the whole yellow rope OB at UNC years ago..he was evil :cool:

Cant wait to see the course.

Played UNC for the first time this weekend and really liked the course, great variety. Looking forward to my first Tarheel Tourney.

happy birfday mulchman

happy birfday mulchman


agreed!

Thanks fellas, and yes I took the day off. I need it after our 300 mile 72 hole marathon Saturday. How you feelin CJ?

Thanks fellas, and yes I took the day off. I need it after our 300 mile 72 hole marathon Saturday. How you feelin CJ?



whoa!

Details!

The Birth Day of the MULCH MAN!!

Disc golf extravaganza this saturday. Myself, Monty, CJ and Fig left the beach at 7:30 a.m. played 36 or so at chapel hill got a short cut from Birdman(thanks Brian that cut off some time in a big way) and then made our way to Sanford for 36 more. man we where so dead by the time we got back at like 9:30. what a day

nice nice nice!

So 36 at UNC and 36 at Sanford - you shoulda been like 30 down after all that!

Yeah that was a lot of fun. I was out of it yesterday!

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Details!

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On the road at 7:30 with Big Wave, CJ and Fig. Teed off on #8 at Chapel Hill around 10:00. Warmed up on the back then started a round on #1. I was -4 on the front then blew up a bit on the back. I love the elevation changes. Anyway, 36 holes there then off to Sanford. Some nice changes to the course since I played there last about 3 yrs ago. 36 more holes there then back to PC. No course records from this group, Big Wave won the day with -5 I think. 36 courses now under my belt.

nice nice nice!

So 36 at UNC and 36 at Sanford - you shoulda been like 30 down after all that!



OK, I was 30 under

You should play the Great 8. Start off at Zebulon around 5:45am or 6am, whenever it was, then Cedar Hills, Kentwood, Chapel Thrill, Buckhorn, Valley Springs, CedaRock/Wellspring.
Shot 38 at Cedarock ending my 8th round (with an ace). Apparently I just need 7 rounds of practice before I'm nice and warmed up!

Mulchmaster.....we indeed share another thing in common besides the love of golf. I was also born on the 17th of April, the year 1977.
11 more years til masters.

-duBBs

I remember now, you told me once that we shared a b'day. It was a good day back in '69 too when I came along. CJ and Big Wave were born on the exact same day and year I found out, July 11(not sure the year).

happy birfday aL

stop hogging the thread jeff

Each Am player pack will include a Tar Heel stamped pro aviar and a mini. We will also be selling stamped pro wraiths and starfires.

the starfires and the not the sl's
if so i will definitely buy one

10 days...

how many days now Wit?

yo, i signed up me AND tator. so far yall are 1 for 2

jeff quit hoggin' the thread

Hello all on the thread, Me and Max want to come down and play the tarheel, but we kinda dont wanna sleep in a box. So if anyone is willing to put up to Greenville golfers for a night give me a call at 252-209-6212, or Call Max at 714-0331, hope to see you guys there

how many days now Wit?



8

yahn, I got your entry, but nothing about Tator.

And furthermore, as Tournament Director, I am appointing you (should you choose to accept) as the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, excuse me, I think Bush would spell that: ISREAL

Jon and Max,
All I have is floor space (hardwood) but if you can make do, I can. Another option is our sponsor hotel:

Best Western University Inn (http://book.bestwestern.com/bestwestern/productInfo.do?propertyCode=34086#null)
The Best Western University Inn is proud to be the host hotel for the 2006 Tarheel Tournament, and will be home to disc golfers from across the country during the tournament weekend. The hotel offers not only great facilities, but also a perfect location: within walking distance of the course and less than 5 minutes from the player's party. With free breakfast, free high speed internet access, a pool, and bars and restaurantswithin walking distance, what more could a disc golfer ask for!! Call 919-932-3000 and ask for the special Tarheel Tournament group rate to make reservations today.

yo, i sent $47 twice
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Course Re-design and T-pad construction COMPLETE!!!

Yesterday, a group of seven Carolina Disc Golf Club members, with financial support from Campus Rec, finished pouring the last t-pad on the course-- hole #12 by the softball fields.

Since Jan, we've poured 10 new t-pads (and improvised another off a foundation from the old ball-golf workshed). BIG Thanks to Gary Gregory, Allen Mitchel, Neville 'the devil' Handell, Matthew Smith, Ku 'the giver of discs', Ed Cherry, Nelson, Bill Cooley, Greg Shutz, Gary Rains, Ed Kuschill, Garret Davis, Steve Gale, Ian Edwards, Joel G, and others... And of course, thanks to Sheffy and others for the beers/food!

We hope the improvements contribute to a great tournament experience for you! And, there's still time to help. Email carolinadisc@unc.edu or follow our website/blog at unc.edu/discgolf

Thanks,
Andrew

Course Re-design and T-pad construction COMPLETE!!!

Yesterday, a group of seven Carolina Disc Golf Club members, with financial support from Campus Rec, finished pouring the last t-pad on the course-- hole #12 by the softball fields.

Since Jan, we've poured 10 new t-pads (and improvised another off a foundation from the old ball-golf workshed). BIG Thanks to Gary Gregory, Allen Mitchel, Neville 'the devil' Handell, Matthew Smith, Ku 'the giver of discs', Ed Cherry, Nelson, Bill Cooley, Greg Shutz, Gary Rains, Ed Kuschill, Garret Davis, Steve Gale, Ian Edwards, Joel G, and others... And of course, thanks to Sheffy and others for the beers/food!

We hope the improvements contribute to a great tournament experience for you! And, there's still time to help. Email carolinadisc@unc.edu or follow our website/blog at unc.edu/discgolf

Thanks,
Andrew



Awesome! You guys have been doing a bang up job, the course looks great.

Has the OB been decided on yet?
What about pin positions (specifically 10)?

Is the course going to be set (OB, etc) before friday for practice?

Due to the unrivaled popularity of the Tar Heel Tournament, we will be playing an additional 2 temporary holes. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Hole 19 will be very similar to temp #19 from the tournament 2 years ago (almost like old #16), teeing from the crest of the driveway after hole 18 and playing to the plateau in the center of the old fairway (~400'). Hole #20 is basically the final dogleg of old hole #18, playing from the bottom of the fairway up to the old foundation and pin position. (We can't play the entire hole because incoming drives often strike the clubhouse windows). :confused:
There is a low ropes course between the #19 pin and #20 teepad that will be roped off OB. Speaking of OB, stay tuned!

All permanent holes (1-18) are currently in tournament position and will remain there. Hole #10 is back, way back, and will remain there. (Bring your stroke counter)

We hope to have the course mowed on Wed or Thurs, and OB will be strung up promptly thereafter.

Random Doubles at 5:30 on Friday April 28!!!
Meet at the bottom parking lot (hole #8) Entry is $3 plus $1 ace pool.
From 15-501-54 take Raleigh Rd north. After bridge, take first left into the UNC General Administration parking lot.

All hail the ambassador to isREAL....he ISreal

Nice Matt. Its good to see someone add holes to adjust for the demand. I know not all courses have this ability add temp holes, its nice to see one that does go ahead and do it.

can't wait to check out this course again.... been a couple of years. see ya in 6 days.

No need to bring anything, we'll have:
Kegger; Grill food, wings, dogs and burgers and veggie options and appetizers and drinks.
Pit Fire
Poker tourney if enough people are interesed and possibly drunk twister.

Map to my house Sheffy's Bungalow (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&amp;country=US&amp;addtohistory =&amp;searchtab=home&amp;formtype=address&amp;popflag=0&amp;latitu de=&amp;longitude=&amp;name=&amp;phone=&amp;level=&amp;cat=Sheffy%27s+ House&amp;address=1112+Valley+Park+Drive&amp;city=Chapel+H ill&amp;state=NC&amp;zipcode=27514)

This may have already been stated but I am curious if we are teeing from the concrete block on hole 16 or if we tee in front of that slab like last yr.?

From the block, about 25 feet longer than last year.

Matt & co,

any sponsers lined up for lunch? Jersey Mike's etc?

Only 4 spots left!!!

We are working on getting Bagels on the Hill to do lunch catering. More info soon.

Ya'll boys like OB!?! :D :mad::eek: :confused: :( ;)


Tar Heel Tournament Course Layout and Out-of-Bounds

All holes tee from rectangular/ trapezoidal concrete pads except holes 1, 3, 16, 19, 20.
These holes tee from marked flags.

All concrete or asphalt pavement (except on hole #1), softball fields, tennis courts, volleyball courts, ropes course areas, and all areas within the chancellor�s fence are OB.
The old golf cart paths are NOT OB. All OB plays from last point in bounds EXCEPT on holes 2, 3, 4, 6; these holes have marked drop zones. Hole 8 drop zone is for relief creek only.

Hole #1. Inside of ropes course fence, pond
Hole #2. Pond. Use marked drop zone.
Hole #3. All areas except for the island green are OB. Use marked drop zone.
Hole #4. All areas except for the two islands (fairway island and green island) are OB. The drop zone is marked at the end of the fairway island.
Hole #5 creeks across fairway and along right side
Hole #6 False lake to right of pin, creek on right
Hole #7 Road left of fairway and driveway beyond pin
Hole #8 Parking lot, high voltage power box and the concrete foundation beneath it are OB. Discs shall be marked and played from the last point in-bounds. Drainage ditch running along parking lot from tee to creek is casual.
There is a short section of the creek near the pin marked by two lengths of rope, THIS RELIEF SECTION OF THE CREEK IS NOT OB . Discs completely surrounded by water within the relief section do not receive a penalty stroke and the player will putt from the marked drop zone behind the hole. The rest of the creek (upstream and downstream of the relief section) is OB and is played from last point in bounds.
Hole #9 Creek (the entire creek), chancellor�s fence on right
Hole #10 Softball field, driveway and beyond on left, chancellor�s fence on right
Hole #11 Driveway and beyond on left
Hole #12 Left of fence at the top of the hill and string connecting to the fence beyond the pin, chancellor�s fence on right
Hole #13 Chancellor�s fence on right
Hole #14 Chancellor�s fence on right
Hole #15 Single cable fence on left
Hole #16 Chancellor�s fence beyond pin
Hole #18 Inside of ropes course fence, tennis courts left of pin, driveway
Hole #19 Driveway and low ropes course right of pin, volleyball courts on left
Hole #20 Building, concrete walkways, parking lot and driveway to the right, wooden see-saw on left, driveway beyond pin.

Don't worry, it's really not that bad! ;)

Thanks for the detailed info Matt. Can't wait. See ya Saturday.

.

For what it's worth..... here's some feedback on the OB for this weekend's tournament...... In my opinion this course plays nicely "as is" and don't see the need for lots of "fake islands". Also the wooded areas are penalty enough and can be difficult to get out of.... without the need for additional strokes. With that said..... I do greatly appreciate the work that everyone has put into the Chapel Hill course and for keeping this tournament going. And I hope nobody takes the comments personally...... so here's my hole by hole thoughts.

Hole 1 - Good.... ropes course should be OB and I don't see how anybody could hit the pond.

Hole 2 - Good..... although there isn't much pond left.

Hole 3 - BAD ..... The teepad is further back than previous tournaments with the island green. I see having anything left of the creek bed be OB, but marking off an island (particularly a small one) is dumb.

Hole 4 - BAD.... again I see left of creekbed as OB, but don't see the need for the fake islands

Hole 5 - BAD..... is there actually any water in this so called creek? If you end up in the wooded area across the fairway, you're in bad enough shape to not need to be further penalized.

Hole 6 - BAD.... again see no need to create false OB

Hole 7 - Good.... don't think anybody will ever end up in the road to the left.... and driveway beyond pin should be OB

Hole 8 - Some good... some BAD ..... I'll reserve judgement until I see what is the "relief section". Bottom line is the small almost dry area around the basket should NOT be OB.

Hole 9 - ??? - what creek?.... over fence should be OB

Hole 10 - good

Hole 11 - what driveway

Hole 12 - 14 ..... good

Hole 15 - not needed

Hole 16 OK

Hole 17 ?????

Hole 18 - OK

Hole 19 OK

Hole 20 unsure

Again.... thanks to everyone for keeping this tournament alive.... and for all the hard work on the course. It just looks like a lot of additional work is being done (roping off fake islands, etc) that isn't necessary.... particularly holes 3, 6 & 8

Just one man's opinion.....

RD

And one more comment......

The new teepads are sweet!!!!!!!

Nice work to all involved!

alotta bads there

sounds like hole 3 is a combination of the last two years...

The Island from 2 years ago and the long tee from last year - that will def. a be a tough hole that can make a break a round.

I'm asuming that on 4 there is like a "bail out" island short and then theres the green - is that asumption correct - if so, it will depend where the bail out island is. Personally, I like it before where you had to make a decision off the tee and it was rediculously tough to lay up - we shall see

c'mon Robbie... we need a 5th.

Chris Hysell would make 5

<font color="red"> Most of the fence and driveway OB requires an incredibly awful shot, but the point is to make it clear that IT IS OB!!! I have tried to justify some of the concerns below. </font>


For what it's worth..... here's some feedback on the OB for this weekend's tournament...... In my opinion this course plays nicely "as is" and don't see the need for lots of "fake islands". Also the wooded areas are penalty enough and can be difficult to get out of.... without the need for additional strokes. With that said..... I do greatly appreciate the work that everyone has put into the Chapel Hill course and for keeping this tournament going. And I hope nobody takes the comments personally...... so here's my hole by hole thoughts.

Hole 1 - Good.... ropes course should be OB and I don't see how anybody could hit the pond.

Hole 2 - Good..... although there isn't much pond left. <font color="red"> The pond WILL BE FULL </font>

Hole 3 - BAD ..... The teepad is further back than previous tournaments with the island green. I see having anything left of the creek bed be OB, but marking off an island (particularly a small one) is dumb. <font color="red"> Holes 2 and 3 basically throw to two different sides of the same fairway. Shots on hole 3 (especially shots short and right) are not visible from the #2 tee box and pose a safety threat. The island green is designed to swiftly get players on hole 3 away from danger (near #2 basket) and back to the #3 drop zone. I hope this makes sense. </font>

Hole 4 - BAD.... again I see left of creekbed as OB, but don't see the need for the fake islands <font color="red"> Judge this one once you have played it; you may love it, you may hate it, but I guarantee you will think about it. </font>

Hole 5 - BAD..... is there actually any water in this so called creek? If you end up in the wooded area across the fairway, you're in bad enough shape to not need to be further penalized. <font color="red"> The creek beds are OB only if your disc is surrounded by water (not likely in the creek crossing the fairway, but easily could be in the main creek on the right). The idea is to prevent someone from trying a miracle shot from an unsafe lie and hurting themselves. </font>

Hole 6 - BAD.... again see no need to create false OB <font color="red"> This hole is a relatively easy hyzer for most folks. The false pond should not come into play, but may play with your head, maybe enough to make you push your shot left into the brush. </font>

Hole 7 - Good.... don't think anybody will ever end up in the road to the left.... and driveway beyond pin should be OB

Hole 8 - Some good... some BAD ..... I'll reserve judgement until I see what is the "relief section". Bottom line is the small almost dry area around the basket should NOT be OB.
<font color="red"> I know this one reads long and confusing in the tournament OB declaration, but it is the best solution I could create. I did not want to punish good shots (within 20 ft of pin, but underwater) while attempting to protect the integrity of the creek and its banks. But most importantly, I did not want players putting from unsafe lies. This hole will be explained and demonstrated at the random doubles tournament on Friday night 5:30 PM, meet at hole #8 parking lot. From those present, I hope to have at least one representative in each grouping for Saturday mornings first round. </font>

Hole 9 - ??? - what creek?.... over fence should be OB
<font color="red"> Same creek that wraps around hole 8, doesn't matter how you get there, just that it is OB. The whole creek, including the section marked as relief for hole 8. </font>

Hole 10 - good

Hole 11 - what driveway <font color="red"> the softball complex driveway </font>

Hole 12 - 14 ..... good

Hole 15 - not needed <font color="red"> fence is private property </font>

Hole 16 OK

Hole 17 ?????

Hole 18 - OK

Hole 19 OK

Hole 20 unsure

Again.... thanks to everyone for keeping this tournament alive.... and for all the hard work on the course. It just looks like a lot of additional work is being done (roping off fake islands, etc) that isn't necessary.... particularly holes 3, 6 & 8

Just one man's opinion.....

RD

c'mon Hysell... we need a 5th.

<font color="red"> Most of the fence and driveway OB requires an incredibly awful shot, but the point is to make it clear that IT IS OB!!! I have tried to justify some of the concerns below. </font>


For what it's worth..... here's some feedback on the OB for this weekend's tournament...... In my opinion this course plays nicely "as is" and don't see the need for lots of "fake islands". Also the wooded areas are penalty enough and can be difficult to get out of.... without the need for additional strokes. With that said..... I do greatly appreciate the work that everyone has put into the Chapel Hill course and for keeping this tournament going. And I hope nobody takes the comments personally...... so here's my hole by hole thoughts.

Hole 1 - Good.... ropes course should be OB and I don't see how anybody could hit the pond.

Hole 2 - Good..... although there isn't much pond left. <font color="red"> The pond WILL BE FULL </font>

Hole 3 - BAD ..... The teepad is further back than previous tournaments with the island green. I see having anything left of the creek bed be OB, but marking off an island (particularly a small one) is dumb. <font color="red"> Holes 2 and 3 basically throw to two different sides of the same fairway. Shots on hole 3 (especially shots short and right) are not visible from the #2 tee box and pose a safety threat. The island green is designed to swiftly get players on hole 3 away from danger (near #2 basket) and back to the #3 drop zone. I hope this makes sense. </font>

Hole 4 - BAD.... again I see left of creekbed as OB, but don't see the need for the fake islands <font color="red"> Judge this one once you have played it; you may love it, you may hate it, but I guarantee you will think about it. </font>

Hole 5 - BAD..... is there actually any water in this so called creek? If you end up in the wooded area across the fairway, you're in bad enough shape to not need to be further penalized. <font color="red"> The creek beds are OB only if your disc is surrounded by water (not likely in the creek crossing the fairway, but easily could be in the main creek on the right). The idea is to prevent someone from trying a miracle shot from an unsafe lie and hurting themselves. </font>

Hole 6 - BAD.... again see no need to create false OB <font color="red"> This hole is a relatively easy hyzer for most folks. The false pond should not come into play, but may play with your head, maybe enough to make you push your shot left into the brush. </font>

Hole 7 - Good.... don't think anybody will ever end up in the road to the left.... and driveway beyond pin should be OB

Hole 8 - Some good... some BAD ..... I'll reserve judgement until I see what is the "relief section". Bottom line is the small almost dry area around the basket should NOT be OB.
<font color="red"> I know this one reads long and confusing in the tournament OB declaration, but it is the best solution I could create. I did not want to punish good shots (within 20 ft of pin, but underwater) while attempting to protect the integrity of the creek and its banks. But most importantly, I did not want players putting from unsafe lies. This hole will be explained and demonstrated at the random doubles tournament on Friday night 5:30 PM, meet at hole #8 parking lot. From those present, I hope to have at least one representative in each grouping for Saturday mornings first round. </font>

Hole 9 - ??? - what creek?.... over fence should be OB
<font color="red"> Same creek that wraps around hole 8, doesn't matter how you get there, just that it is OB. The whole creek, including the section marked as relief for hole 8. </font>

Hole 10 - good

Hole 11 - what driveway <font color="red"> the softball complex driveway </font>

Hole 12 - 14 ..... good

Hole 15 - not needed <font color="red"> fence is private property </font>

Hole 16 OK

Hole 17 ?????

Hole 18 - OK

Hole 19 OK

Hole 20 unsure

Again.... thanks to everyone for keeping this tournament alive.... and for all the hard work on the course. It just looks like a lot of additional work is being done (roping off fake islands, etc) that isn't necessary.... particularly holes 3, 6 & 8

Just one man's opinion.....

RD





Well said Matt.

Whats up WIT that weather report?

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Matt & co,

any sponsers lined up for lunch? Jersey Mike's etc?



Bagels on the Hill have a table with complementary bagels at tournament central on Saturday and Sunday! They will be taking lunch orders in the morning. We will only be taking 45 minutes for lunch, so I recommend that everyone place their orders before the players meeting begins at 9:30.

Matt, I'll be camped in Apex near 751 and Mnt. Pisgah Church Rd. was wondering if someone could give me directions to the course

Matt, I'll be camped in Apex near 751 and Mnt. Pisgah Church Rd. was wondering if someone could give me directions to the course



Head north on NC-751 - go 7.3 mi

Turn left into the I-40 W entry ramp to Chapel Hill - go 1.5 mi

Take the NC-54 W exit 273A to Chapel Hill - go 0.2 mi

Continue on NC-54 W about 2 miles

NC-54 becomes Raleigh Rd - go about another mile, go under bridge (54, 15-501) and stay straight up hill on Raleigh Rd.

Turn left on Country Club

continue straight past Ridge Rd and turn right into Carolina Adventures UNC Outdoor Education Center, follow drive way down to parking.

thanks much.

Wit

if you take a left on Stagecoach rd before you get to I-40

then take a left on Farrington wich changes names to Barbee Chapel rd. this takes you out to Raleigh Rd./ NC 54 which matt talked about saves a good couple of minutes

Brian

these roads are on mapquest and since you are coming from Jordan lake this will be quicker

There was what appeared to be Copperhead snake confrontation on hole 3, left of the creek (OB), across from the pin a couple of days ago. Tread lightly in that area. My buddy from MT was quite shocked, not quad-shocked, but close. :eek:

the Canes Win, mtl lose.

the Canes Win, mtl lose.



using I root for MTL, but not this week

only one player on the waitlist, anyone still interested in playing should contact me, your odds of getting in aren't too bad.

VA in the house. holla

a copperhead Carter???? i doubt it...i have spotted 2 snakes in that area in the last month. 1 was a gaboon viper and the other was a 24 foot anacvonda. a gaboon viper and copperheads don't get along, mortal enimies. and gaboon vipers are imune to copperhead venom(scientific fact)so with this evidence i think you will see it could not have been a copperhead. allthough mabey the gaboon viper killed the copperhead skinned it and is diguising it self as a copperhead....krafty to say the least. as for the anaconda all i can say is grill food at the playas party.
reguardless people that throw left of the creek should proceed with caution.
thanks for the heads up

There was what appeared to be Copperhead snake confrontation on hole 3, left of the creek (OB), across from the pin a couple of days ago. Tread lightly in that area. My buddy from MT was quite shocked, not quad-shocked, but close. :eek:



I saw one near the creek on hole 8 last week. That thing was big and it DEFINATELY was a copperhead.

Did it look like this ?

http://myspace-564.vo.llnwd.net/00690/46/58/690778564_m.jpg

Whats the chance of a ZZ appearance Sat nite for TaTor's BDay and Sheffy's Party??

Did it look like this ?



Yep. Thats the one. Ugly little fella.

for some reason orange county does seem to be full of copperheads....when i lived in chapel hill i saw them often in my yard.

Copperheads, Alligator Snapping turtles, drunk undregrad fratboy litter-- they're out there. They've been seen on every side of the course, so be forwarned .. I've seen over five copperheads on the Carolina Course. This is the time of year they come out for food, i.e. ob throws...

check out www.unc.edu/discgolf (http://www.unc.edu/discgolf) for more info on the course, etc.

I was out on the course Tuesday with Kristen, I threw 2 discs righ by the basket on hole 8, when I was about to reach into the water by the bank I realized there was a copperhead about a foot from my hand...yes there are snakes, and yes, they are poisonous. I suspect there will be quite a many RADLsnakes this weekend you know.

Send the crocodile hunter in there and let's find him a new home. A bite to the ankle just may ruin a good round.

I might bring some snake away!! I remember playin ace run in Suffolk VA and watching Glenn Henry pick up a fat copperhead and proceed to cut its head off with the smallest pocket knife i believe you can buy.

anyway, I am going to try to be in CH around 11:30 in the AM. Anybody playin early. Big Wave? Calimari Jones? Bueller.... Bueller.........

I wish I could play doubles, but I gots to hang with the wife friday in order to swim sat. night

see you peoples this afternoon....

Wassup everyone , looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend, gonna be a blast and hopefully the ob want hurt me to much, Invasion coming to a town near you

Hey, can someone arrange it so we can take a ride down the zip wire. That thing looks huge.

Hey, can someone arrange it so we can take a ride down the zip wire. That thing looks huge.



when it was active, it was the longest in North America

The zip line is still active, you probably have not seen it in use because the two facilities are almost always used in exclusion of the other (ropes course and disc golf).
Whenever the challenge course does a session, they close off holes 1-4. And they would never have anything lined up on a weekend that we were planning to have a tournament.

See you suckas in the mornin, and remember to bring your copperhead whistles!!!!!

scores are up (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5804&year=2006&includeRatings=1)

You da man.

Thanks Mike

i seriously hate JJ some times - I averaged 993 and im losing to him by 17.

I think my only way I could catch him is if he stayed a C Lee's tonight

I got him all worked up when I told him I was going to beat him this weekend!!

I was lucky enough to be able to watch some of the best golf I've ever seen today. In JJ's first round, he birdied 15 out of 18 "2-able" holes. His only bad throw was his layup on 4 was OB by about 5 feet left. He ended up with a 4 on the hole. On our last hole (hole 2), he missed a 20 footer because he was too nice to tell someone in the background to move out of his line. Def could have been 1100 rated! Outstanding JJ! Keep it up bro!

I forgot to mention JJ said he had a bone to pick with this course from last year (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5325&year=2006&include_ratings=1#Open) ...

I forgot to mention JJ said he had a bone to pick with this course from last year (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5325&year=2006&include_ratings=1#Open) ...



he shot the same thing today as he did last year on Sunday - not a big deal

not a big deal



Maybe you dont think it's a big deal but some people do.

he shot the same thing today as he did last year on Sunday - not a big deal



Yes but there were 18 holes last year and 20 this year I think.

don't be like MJ, be like JJ.

What got hole of the year? no.4

not a big deal



Maybe you dont think it's a big deal but some people do.




obviously you totally missed the sarcasm invovled in the post - at least mike understood

On our last hole (hole 2), he missed a 20 footer because he was too nice to tell someone in the background to move out of his line. Def could have been 1100 rated!



Outstanbding, yes, this quote... TOTAL B.S. If you are a pro, at this level, you should know that if someone is distracting you to ask them to move, then reset. To cop-out and say that you missing a put was the fault of someone else is a complete joke. It just so happens that this person in question was my girl-friend, who was not directly in his line btw, and would gladly have moved out of the way but did not have enough time to do so so she froze. She asked Larry and Myself about the situation shortly after and we both said H@## NO, dont feel bad, we are professionals, we know better than that. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

To cop-out and say that you missing a put was the fault of someone else is a complete joke.



I'm pretty sure I said he didnt ask them to move, not he missed the putt because of them. I think you misunderstood. Don't put words in my mouth. Read it again.

yeah JJ

Despite a hot 48 by LL the last round in the wind, JJ still holds on for the win

Ricky Snapp outta VA shoots 54 52 today to come back and win adv.

JJ's brother Chase wins intermediate by 10!!

Thanks to Matt and the UNC crew for a good weekend.

Every time someone steps up and gets thier TD stuff and runs a tournament, the sport improves a little bit. Someone like stepping up to run a tournament is such a good thing - and to step up and not play is really tough - big ups to him.

Congrats to all the winners yada yada I hate you JJ :D

Final scores are up (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5804&year=2006&includeRatings=1)

Final scores are up (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5804&year=2006&includeRatings=1)



Mike Norris is the best assistant to any tournament - its unreal. Matt Smith told me "its like he doesnt even help b/c its done so good and quick, you dont ever get to see him doing it"

You are seriously the most underappreciated volunteer in NC - thanks again.

Final scores are up (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5804&amp;year=2006&amp;incl udeRatings=1)


Yeah, umm, Mitch and I are still waiting on tournament results from a few weeks ago for out here. Good lord we miss the east coast!

Congrats, Sandy! Looks like some good shooting out there.
Way to go Carter, also. The Allen brothers bringing home some awesome scores this weekend! We stayed with Doug up in Fort Collins for a tournament where he finished 3rd.

I agree props to Mike

good tourney Matt

FISH

Tizzle, quit hatin' on JJ just because he whooped you, and yes, this is me attacking you once again because it's fun.
JJ, hot shooting!! Buddman, way to get on up there!

And like Marsha said, congrats to the Allen bro's for taking 2nd at TTarheel and Doug for taking 3rd in pro at the Grateful Disc behind Joe Klosky in 2nd and Mikey Randolph in 1st. Fierce battle too, and got to watch Doug shoot a smoking -10 in the 3rd round to smoke the field.

On our last hole (hole 2), he missed a 20 footer because he was too nice to tell someone in the background to move out of his line. Def could have been 1100 rated!



Outstanbding, yes, this quote... TOTAL B.S. If you are a pro, at this level, you should know that if someone is distracting you to ask them to move, then reset. To cop-out and say that you missing a put was the fault of someone else is a complete joke. It just so happens that this person in question was my girl-friend, who was not directly in his line btw, and would gladly have moved out of the way but did not have enough time to do so so she froze. She asked Larry and Myself about the situation shortly after and we both said H@## NO, dont feel bad, we are professionals, we know better than that. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!



well i guess i definitely need to clear this up.. yes i said i missed the putt because i didnt ask her to move. but i did not say it was her fault. it was ENTIRELY MY FAULT for missing the putt. i could have easily told her to move but i didnt, my mistake. when i was looking up to putt i was thinking about it and not concentrating on making the putt, MY FAULT. so it wasnt your girlfriends fault i promise, it was mine.

thanks to all who played and made this tournament happen, had a blast.

J

Had a great time this weekend. Matt you did a great job. Mike Norris you are great for the game. Im sorry the m&m's did not work for the fourth round. I never in my life had so many ace runs in one tourney. I did everything but keep it in the basket.

Mills- I got a firebird if you ever need one.

JJ- 1088 boy, you continue to amaze people.

Snapp-great come back

to all the Chapel Hill guys/gals-great work.

BACON JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cutt and BS yall make me laugh so hard my stomach hurt.

Wassup everyone , looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend, gonna be a blast and hopefully the ob want hurt me to much, Invasion coming to a town near you



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I had a lotta fun at my first Tarheel, wish I had played better that 1st round. Anyway congrats to JJ, Snapp, Mandi and all the champs. I wish we could bottle that weather for every event cause it was perfect.

Everyone in the local club, keep up the good work on this great course. Hope to make it back next year.

Thanks Mitch and Marsha, I was able to feel the peace inside for a couple of rnds, must be from getting old, Doug and I turned 32 this morning. Very Grateful to have attended the Tarheel tournament, thanks for everyones efforts.

I finally cashed (adv) in the triangle. thanks for the hard work: Matt and the UNC dg club.
All my cards were great. ( Chris Dunn, you really should just throw firebirds ).

Snap is no longer allowed to stay with me unless he play's open.
JJ &amp; Chase...... who wins in the backyard ?


Thanks again.

Wassup everyone , looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend, gonna be a blast and hopefully the ob want hurt me to much, Invasion coming to a town near you



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well you beat me by one stroke.....nice ace......what will be your next pdga.....ill remember what you said

Pro Crosstown. Eat It !

id love nothing more than to play that event......excuses should never matter......but my lil sis is graduating from state that weekend and i am going to be there to congradulate her.....im sure i will catch up with you sooner or later

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Shame you couldn't stifle us at the X town.
Come play Kinston

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Come play Kinston

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That's the best you got? Livin in the past ? I forgot, you can dish it out, but you cant take it.

id love nothing more than to play that event......excuses should never matter......but my lil sis is graduating from state that weekend and i am going to be there to congradulate her.....im sure i will catch up with you sooner or later



if you need the weekend free, i'll congradulate her for you.

so you will pay for my pro crosstown entry and i will give you my invite to my sisters graduation???

so you will pay for my pro crosstown entry and i will give you my invite to my sisters graduation???



Right now that's MTL's best chance at a date... :)

From what I heard(and I could hear it all the way in Greensboro) is that MTL cashed......TWICE.

2 years in a row that butt-crack was showing

thanks to everyone... great tournament. awesome groups too!! makes me understand one of the reasons I love this game. good luck to all at the xtown, see some of you'ins at Asheville!!

thx tizzle and others.

I enjoy helping out and I would not do it if I did not enjoy doing something to help out the local TD's. I do something that is very easy for me as I work on computers a lot. If some others would just take 5-10 minutes to help out the events in the area could be even better. If everybody works just a little bit to help out disc golf in the area then we all benefit from better courses and events.

People have asked me a lot recently if they can help and I feel like I am being rude and brushing them off. It is not that I do not want help with the scores but generally by the time I get to enter them into the laptop I have the layout done so I can very quickly find the participants so it does not take me long. That is not to say that other things may not need to be done. I am just not aware of what else the TD may need help with, as I am able to just take the scores, enter them and do my part to help out.

I encourage others to check with the TD and see what if anything they can do to help. And don't be discouraged if they let you know that everything is under control. Sometimes just jump in and grab a scorecard to make sure it is correct. Put a big check at the top so we know it has been checked and grab another score card. There is generally water jugs that can be filled also so if you notice something that you can do that will help out everybody it could be best to just take the initiative and do it yourself. Perhaps mention to the TD a specific task of can I help you fill the water jugs or can I help with scorecards. Sometimes with an open ended question of "can I help?" with so much to be done it is hard to come up with one thing to have that person do.

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Shame you couldn't stifle us at the X town.
Come play Kinston

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That's the best you got? Livin in the past ? I forgot, you can dish it out, but you cant take it.

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I'm a history major. But I'll take you anywhere, at anytime in the future. See you at cedars tomorrow.

Man, what an awesome tourney. The teepads are sweet, TDing was super-smooth & very competent, water was plentiful on the course, Bagels on the Hill brought bagels every morning... just a great tourney.
Millsie - smokin' final round, superman
MTL - I could hear you commenting on shots during the skilshot shootoff from the parking lot...... nice.
BeRdman - we don't need to call the crocodile hunter, we need to watch where the f*** we step. Golfers aren't the only things that matter bro. Move the snakes and something worse will move in to their old spot. All I'm sayin' is don't hate.
J Land - nice f'kn hat.
Grasse - nice bass bro

Cheers

I do what I can

I don't hate, I just don't like

Nice shootin Snapp and Carter

Sorry to p!ss you off Butter Cup

nice job ricky snapp- a virginia adv player with 2 victories in the triangle- that may be a first- shows you how far va dg has come :)

Nice Sunday comeback Mr. Nelson, I wish I coulda kept up with you. Great playing with you again.

I'm glad Ricky comes down here. It adds to the level of competition. I hope he goes to worlds and wins (or at least win Nationals like Olsen). I think that the Crosstown Am weekend is as good of a forecaster of worlds frontrunners as any other am only event.

Plus he keeps the eyes off me

Shock and Awe

Does any one have digital pics from the Tar Heel? I know Walt was filming on Saturday. If you guys would please let him know that I am interested in getting any and everything I can from the tournament.
We will be framing one of the tees signs that all of the winners signed and donating it along with a bunch of minis to the UNC Hospitals Children's Cancer Unit. Please email pics to haltonsmith@gmail.com.

Thanks guys!

Moncrief - Nice shootin' with you as well bro. I did remember how to throw a bit on Sunday. Played pretty well for a mullet.

BeRD - Great email address, man. I'm assuming yer talking to someone else named butter cup, I didn't read too far back in this thread. I probably came off a bit harsh, tho. Sorry for that. I do think every creature on Earth has a purpose, and so far, humans purpose seems to be f**kin up everything for everything but ourselves. That is sooo wrong.
Live and let live - cheers
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