i was wondering what the low speed fade of the x avenger is like. i really dont like alot of the new d-drivers because their low speed fade is so hard. so far the only one i like is the pro starfire (fade is still a little harder then what i would like). i dont really care for z plastic and i realize the z's are probably more overstable.

dx plastic generally has less low speed fade.

dx plastic generally has less low speed fade.



what does this have to do with the question? almost everyone knows that.

you said you did not like z plastic. just a suggestion. jeez

dx plastic generally has less low speed fade.



what does this have to do with the question? almost everyone knows that.



Dude you just said the D has too much fade and I think they actually have less than Z and X kinda like DX so it did have to do with the question. Why don't you just get an XL?

Why don't you just get an XL?



XL's rule. Good call.

Better then an Avenger in the fade area. Alro a sabre would be a good choice. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Nothing wrong with a Sabre :)

d-driver as in distance driver srry i didnt feel like writing out distance. plus i always hate how these forums go off in the oppisite direction from which they were started. and i prefer teebirds any day over xl's and i still waiting to disc with someone with gateway in their bag to try out some of their discs.

Well your from crystal lake, coming up to SE wisconsin anytime soon? I will be playing the IOS series so if you do want to get a hold of some gateway or try throwing some discs from my bag please let me know! I would be more than happy to let you throw some!

lets see i am gonna be at the "wisconsin tour warm up" on mar 18 and the IOS #1 at parkside in april. if i had more time from school i would spend more time in wisconsin cause i love their courses (i miss not being able to play dretzka on an almost daily basis :( ). so yea i'll let you know either on here or at discgolfreview forum. always great to chat with you mark.

I will be at both of those events :) I will be still getting used to my gateway bag setup but should have enough variety to make you happy :)

I am not sure if I am playing Open or Adv for that one, open for the IOS for sure though.

Back on topic, I would say the x avenger low speed fade would be around or less than the starfire comparison. It beats in fast too, i found the disc fairly flippy otherwise.

You can see my response concerning the Surge in the Surge thread... but I think that might be your answer.