There is only 1 truly clear Champion Roc this year. It is 180 grams, carries the Eye Roc design, and is the only disc that was ghost stamped (transparent). A live phone auction for this disc started today at Innova East. It will run until March 8th, 06. The proceeds will go directly to EDGE, the Educational Disc Golf Experience. The opening bid was $200. You will be able to follow the bidding at http://usdgc.com/. More Roc info on the way.

Can we see a picture of this Roc? Also, will they take online bidding? Thx

Clear ? STAMPS. (http://www.zonedriven.com/roc_art_2006.html)

All bids are being taken by phone for now. We hope to have the bids posted shortly. I will post a picture later today.

How about a phone number to submit bids and an ending time for the auction?

Thanks

TW

The auction will end 5pm et on March 8. Place bids at 803.366.5028.

I was hoping they put everybody's name who has bought USDGC Rocs every single year into a hat, pull out a winner, and include the clear disc with their order for this year. :)

How much do you think that Clear Roc will go for ?

More than $ 300.00 ? :eek:

Muchos Gracias. :cool:

it's already at $200 so i'm guessing it will be over $500. and it's for charity so i'm sure there will be some people bidding very high as well.. Who knows.. it might end up being the most rare CE ROC ever!

-Scott Lewis

How much do you think that Clear Roc will go for ?



One Meal-yun Dahlars! :D

Here is the photo. http://www.innovadiscs.com/usdgc/clear_roc.jpg

[puts pinking to corner of mouth] One Beelieon Dollars!

Latest bid : Ron Perkins $400. http://usdgc.com/

The USDGC Roc release has been pushed back to Wednesday, March 8 at 12 noon et. The Clear Roc auction will run until 5pm et March 15th. The current bid is $600 by Kelly Watson.

When will the orders from the Partners be shipped? I placed my order last Thursday.

Thx

when will the collectors guide be available???

USDGC Partner orders will be shipped next week, Tuesday the 7th. The Collectors Guide is posted: http://www.zonedriven.com/guide.htm

Hey Zeb, what about the new website upgrades that Jonathan referred to in one of the emails? When will that take place and how will that affect ordering the 06 Rocs on the website?

I type the above and go check my mail to find:

Dear ZD Friends,

After carefully considering a myriad of variables, we have decided to push the USDGC Champion Roc release back by 1 week. There are a handful of very compelling reasons as to why this makes sense. Several of which are virtually impossible to sufficiently explain via email. Regardless, we are in better position than ever for our smoothest release to date. That said, here are your new critical dates:

Wednesday, March 8 - 12:00pm EST - Official Roc Release

Wednesday, March 15 - Second orders may be placed (50 disc maximum)

Wednesday, March 22 - Orders may be placed with no minimum

Questions may be sent to me, or to the Innova Eastern Sales office at 800.476.3968.

Thanks for your patience,

Jonathan Poole
ZoneDriven

Wednesday, March 22 - Orders may be placed with no minimum


Is there like a 2 disc minimum on the earlier orders ??? :D

50 disc MAXimum on initial purchases. 50 disc MAXimum on March 15th orders. No maximum on orders after March 22nd.

Let me clarify that:
On March 8th thru March 14th, you can order no more than 50 discs total. If you initially order 30 discs on March 8th, then want to buy 20 more on the 10th, you can do that. On March 15th, (the Ides of March), the counter resets (Just like on Lost). You can again purchase UP TO 50 discs (not to exceed 50 MORE discs by March 21st), this would count multiple orders within the week.

There is no minimum. OK, there is a minimum of 1. :)

So how many are you going to get? 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, or 42?

I paid double shipping last year because I had the four discs I wanted in my cart and I wanted to get them before I went back and shopped what was left.

It was worth it. :)

bagger! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

I'm fine with them delaying these sales a week. If it means we don't have to deal with the problems of last year. Will the new zonedriven site be up prior to next Wednesday? Unfortunatly, you can only do so much internal testing to find bugs. Eventually, you have to unleash it on the public to find the rest. (That's comming for someone who designs for a living).

my brother owns a web development company (everythign in-house, graphics, custom templates, coding, networking, server stuff etc) and he has to tell his clients the same thing.

I completely understand what you're saying :)

-Scott Lewis

Folks ordering Rocs at http://zonedriven.com/ next Wednesday at noon will use the Express checkout. You will not need or be able to create a personal ZD account during this time. You will enter your shipping/billing info upon check out.

We would like to thank USDGC Roc purchasers in advance for their sponsorship and support of the 2006 United States Disc Golf Championship.

USDGC Rocs go on sale today 12 noon et @ http://zonedriven.com/. Here a few things to remember when ordering:

*The maximum purchase is 50 Rocs. You can order 50 more on March 15th providing there are still Rocs left.
*We will be offering Express Checkout this year so an account will NOT be required.
*If you have your eye on a particular weight, color, stamp combo and are ordering online, you may want to get it in your cart and check out as quickly as possible. The longer you take to shop, the greater the risk of discs selling out before you can get them. Discs are not guaranteed until you have checked out. In other words, just putting them in your cart does not "hold" them.
*The Clear Roc auction has been extended to Wednesday March 15 5pm et. The current bid is $600.
*Visa, MasterCard, and American Express are accepted. Discover in not accepted.
*Pay Pal is not an option this year.
*Allow 2 weeks to receive your order.

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Why does it say "No Items Found" after I click on any '06 roc?

Me too.

cause it hasn't started just yet

: ) :

Same thing here Eddie.
At least I'm not getting shut out again like last year....yet

Rocs are still being loaded in to the shopping cart at zonedriven.com. There will be a 10 or 15 minute delay. Thank you for your patience.

Does it say, ITEMS NOT FOUND For everyone else when they click on the actual items?

Ter

Here we go again...

Correct Terry

no items found... site not working or everything is sold out...

ok, just saw post by zeb, everything is OK, thanks!!

Terry and Josh: Get back to work!

Serg,

I'm actually on lunch hehe

Funny part is - I have about 101 other things to catch up on after an UNBELIEVABLE week in Arizona.

Too bad I was hanging out with trouble makers LIKE Mr Sunking himself! Thanks again for the lunch at Euro Cafe Pizza. Guess that makes up for your 2 gallon Ice Tea :)

Keep it real boys.

I'm at work and have a meeting in 10 minutes...looks like I'll have to hope the discs I want are still here in an hour.

Good time Terry at the Memorial? Mike had a round finish I see.

Anyone actually getting thru on zonedriven? It's after 12 EST...

12:15... still no rocs

yes but no items available yet

where are the x outs

I'm able to get in and order but unfortunately, I don't want any :confused: this year.

yeah..where are the x-outs?

I got my 2, glo 176g and orange star 176g.

Whatever happened to ALL those black star rocs :confused: There were a ton, but I guess they'll be on e-bay soon, boooooooooooooo :mad:

I GOT 180 grams of PINK EYE! :D

silver celtic, pink baby roc, ice eye roc... locked and loaded. clicking purchase

I clicked purchase a couple of minutes ago...still processing.

Please, baby, please! Don't crash!!!

-E

Dear Serg and SchraJ -

We decided not to load the X-outs initially to reduce the peak load on the server. The X-outs should be available to purchase later this week or early this week.

Take care,
Harold

Whoo...
180 Pink Celtic
180 Pink #7
180 Ice Eye

PSI-2000:Duplicate OrderID.

I get an error... It wont let me check out!!!

Harold,

I went throw the order and entered CC info and submited. Said failed Gateway. Did my order go through?

8 rocs on the way

6 sb, a throwback, 1 eye

: ) :

Anyone else currently hung up after clicking Purchase? What up?

Server overload probably, lol

Seriously, my order went through after a few minutes. No problemo!

Took a while, but I think I got through. The final step took a bout 2-3 min.

This is weird...I already got a confirmed order email, but my order is still processing...

Dear Eddie and Josh - Sorry for these issues, but we are investigating. I passed your messages along to our IT guy. I will post an aswer as soon as I have one. I apologize again.

Take care,
Harold

Harold are you there? I hit subit 3 times now and said gateway bad. Did my order go through? Now it just dumped my basket.

Anyone else currently hung up after clicking Purchase? What up?



Did you click purchase too many times?

Everything went smoothly for me, Thanks HD & JP!

harold, I had 8 rocs in my cart and clicked purchase and now my cart is empty and it says

We are sorry, but you can not access this page while you are not logged in.

Please note : if you have already tried to login and can't do it, please check to be sure that your browser set to accept cookies. Click here to learn more how to enable cookies.


I sure hope I get my rocs.

For those whose orders have gone through, how do you know? THe only message I got was that my order had been sent, does that mean everything I wanted is in stock?

Still processing...did it take anyone 10+ minutes after clicking purchase???

sweet!! lots of pink this year with a few reds silver and gold!! :D

OK, I'm screwed. But I got an order confirm...this is really screwed up. Guess I just wasted an hour of my time.

-E

Still processing...did it take anyone 10+ minutes after clicking purchase???


Nope, about 30sec. WHERE ARE THE X-outs???? Are they sold out after 20mins?

I need to know if my order was processed and if so it process 3 times since I hit submit 3 times and it said bad gateway. I should only have one order.

Josh

Now I get:

PSI-3217:Maximum number of attempts reached.

Still processing...did it take anyone 10+ minutes after clicking purchase???


Nope, about 30sec. WHERE ARE THE X-outs???? Are they sold out after 20mins?



Read up higher!!
They will be avail. next week sometime.

no problems here, just had to be patient and let the pages load. now I just have to wait the two weeks+ for delivery. I hope that everyone gets what they need/want in the end, I know I'd go mental if my shopping cart had emptied or my order hadn't processed. so best of luck to those still shopping.

WHAT CONFIRMATION MESSAGES ARE YOU PEOPLE GETTING?!?!

In and out just like that. I got my (rather large) order all completed and it's ready to go and I'm done. Patience worked for me. Let the PC and the servers do their job:)

Harold - I just sent an e-mail because my cc still has my old address so it may hang up at sometime or other when trying to process because I put in my new billing address thinking the credit card company finally changed over my account.

Thanks,

Ter

Well we all had patience Terry it seems there were a few orders that had a BAD GATEWAY after the process. So nobody is impatient.

What did I do? I didn't want any, and I don't throw Roc's. But, I got caught up in all the hype, specifically in this thread, so now I'm the kind of proud owner of 3 06 USDGC Rocs :p

All I know is I was very patient and placed my order and it failed on there end. I just hope this year my order actually went through correctly. Hope Harold has some good news for me.

Josh

We are still investigating various issues, but here is some guidance:

0) If you receive an error message, you probably need to resubmit your order.

1) If you received an e-mail confirmation that your order was processed, you are good to go.

2) If you did not receive an e-mail confirmation yet but did not receive any error messages, you are probably good to go. There seems to be some delay in the e-mail confirmation process.

I will continue to provide more information and guidance as it becomes available.

Take care,
Harold

You should get an email from zonedriven when your order is processed.

Baby Roc Star 180 Orange
Throw Back Champion 180 Blue
Throw Back Champion 177 Lime
:D:D

Thanks for the "real time" info. We appreicate that!

So are you telling I have to redo my entire order? I submited it 3 times. Great no ice or gold heavy weights for me. oh well

I'll second that THANK YOU for the real time service. You guys are awesome for watching this thread and taking care of everyones needs.

I can't wait to throw my Star Rocs (and Star TL's)!!!

179 pink throwback
180 blue eye

grassyass!

Got my conformation email (YAY!!!) Now its worth taking the day off work!

Got my e-mail finally.
Thanks Harold, good to go.

Donkey:

Here is what was posted about the X-outs:

Dear Serg and SchraJ -

We decided not to load the X-outs initially to reduce the peak load on the server. The X-outs should be available to purchase later this week or early this week.

Take care,
Harold

Thanks for the updates from your end Harold. I guess no matter what technology is in place, there are always going to be a few small glitches or problems. I'm just happy it wasn't me that had any issues.

Ter

complete set of pinks ,all 4 reds ,4 silvers,1 gold,1 glow.. :p

Donkey:

Here is what was posted about the X-outs:

Dear Serg and SchraJ -

We decided not to load the X-outs initially to reduce the peak load on the server. The X-outs should be available to purchase later this week or early this week.

Take care,
Harold


Thanks, I was just about to go look through the thread. I appreciate it.

This year I was able to place my orders without any problems. I received confirmation emails, but I just hope that I receive the ones I ordered. I really wanted some purple rocs! I am, however, peeved that there were no black star rocs. Some should have been held back for the masses and I'm assuming the people who bought the partner's packages got them all. My son and I were looking forward to one of the black ones. rWc :cool:

ha...

tried to get a pink throwback roc for my fiancee(she wants a pink disc)...and they are already sold out....almost 2 hours after they were made available to the public *frustration*

Oh well :)

I know the pinkies were quite limited, !! And no black stars!!

Yeah, I was a bit bummed not to see the black Star Rocs available. I was hoping to get one, especially because that is all there was in lighter weights...they are now eBay fodder.

All good though, got a 171 silver SB celtic in my order, hope I get that one!

-E

All good though, got a 171 silver SB celtic in my order, hope I get that one!

-E


I thought those were going to get swooped by the partners, I should've at least tried. Those are the coolest looking 06's, IMO.

Well Thank you Harold for all the follow-ups. Looks like I will be getting this year

4 Hole 7 Special Blend 180 White
10 Celtic Special Blend 180 White
5 Baby Roc Star 180 Yellow
5 Eye Roc Champion 179 Ice
1 Hole 7 Glo Champion 180
1 Throw Back Champion 180 Red
4 Hole 7 Special Blend 179 Gold


Again thank you Harold for confirming that I will be getting the above items on my order!

Josh

WOW, i wish i had $755+shipping to spend on discs! :confused:

no doubt. But I did have $150!

1 Red SB Celtic 178
2 Blue SB Celtic 178
1 Pink SB #7 178
1 Orange Star Baby 178
1 Yellow Star Baby 178

My wife is gonna be mad when this credit card bill comes in...

I sure hope she like the 170 silver SB Hole & and the 168 Orange Eye Roc that are for her. :)

That's why I have a seperate credit card than my husband!

I got a few stars and special blend down in my throwing weight range.

I guess I'll have to settle for some black X-out Stars if they have any....

No kidding. I was hoping to see some black stars also. Hopefully x-outs come.

I was glad to get some gold heavy weights.

I was unfortunately in class taking an Economics exam so i missed out.. can't wait for x-outs though.

Looking to get a silver X-out and a Pink Star X-out... I have gold discs and they look stupid...

I'm either getting these or waiting for the Star Gremlins!!

-Scott Lewis

Black Roc's will be cool. I only ordered two black of each stamp.

LOL ... here's my horoscope for today.
"Cancer
Whether you're at the mall, at that boutique you've been dying to peruse or just at your desk visiting a great new online shopping site for the very first time, try not to have your credit card within reach. Your willpower won't be at its very strongest at the moment, and just a minute's walk across the house to your wallet could make the difference between a year's worth of finance charges and a pat on the back in a few days -- which is about when this urge will have passed."

Too bad I didn't look at it BEFORE I typed zonedriven.com this morning. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Any chance of getting an estimate of what made it through the first day ?

:) :) :) :) :) :) :D:) :) :) :) :) :)

Got my goodies!!!
1 179 Lime eye (1 of 26)
1 178 Lime eye (1 of 3)
1 180 "Pink Eye" /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif (1 of 18)
1 179 Ice eye (1 of 14)

1 174 purple old school (1 of 1) YES!!!!

Thanks Innova and Associates for a great zero hour! Went through like butter.
Now, can I go two weeks without sleep until my shipment arrives??????

LOL ... here's my horoscope for today.
"Cancer
Whether you're at the mall, at that boutique you've been dying to peruse or just at your desk visiting a great new online shopping site for the very first time, try not to have your credit card within reach. Your willpower won't be at its very strongest at the moment, and just a minute's walk across the house to your wallet could make the difference between a year's worth of finance charges and a pat on the back in a few days -- which is about when this urge will have passed."

Too bad I didn't look at it BEFORE I typed zonedriven.com this morning. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Thats so funny, I had the same feeling yeaterday and I am a CRAB myself

Maybe I should sell one of my 2001 Rocs to cover the three bills bill for 2006 Rocs...

These are kinda cool.

http://www.takeflighttoday.com/DSC05628.JPG

They look like MIdnight Buzzz's :)

-Scott Lewis

Good score Terry. What weights?

I scored 5 clear ICE Eye rocs 179G. Heck only 14 were made total.

I can't wait to dye some of these!!!

I have this sweet retro star stamp dye I made up. I know a few will be wanting one once I post a preview here.I'll update in the near future with pictures. I personally think it is sweet and professional at the same time. Hehe Sorry no previews right now. Soon......

Well , now I know where four of them went! :p Guess I'll have to get a partner's package for '07. rWc :cool:

Yes that is always a plus. I forgot this year to do so and missed out on just the black rocs that's all.

I was able to get 5 179G ice clearish Eye rocs and some 179G gold discs. The rest were mainly max weight white and yellow rocs for dye jobs. I can't wait. That would actually be the 2006 package. The 2005 package partners were able to purchase the 2006 rocs early. The 2006 package partners will be able to get 2007 early.

It's only worth it if you want to grab some of the limited rare colors/stamps/weights rocs.

USDGC_ZEB, will you inform us when the x-out rocs will be sold? Later this week or early next week is kinda vague.

Got a couple of goodies thanks to my partners with their partners packages:

180 glow
180 pinkeye with green stamp
180 yellow with silver eye
180 pinkstar with copper baby stamp.

I spent hours last night re arranging the disc on my wall to fit these beauties in!

I just got confirmation that my shipment arrived at home today of the others I ordered!!! This is going to be one looooong day at work!!!!

7 hours left and trying not to look at a clock.
:(

I went with a couple popular ones...

177 Orange Throwback
180 Blue Celt

I just hope the blue SB feels like my 2005 SB. All I wanted was to have a backup for it, and a more overstable counterpart. I had an '05 glow and didnt like the way it felt. Too flat. Hopefully this throwback feels a little better.

I got to touch a couple of SB's last night. I saw some difference from disc to disc...one beauty was super stiff and grippy compared to one of same weight and color feeling more like the pro material.
I tried hiding the stiff disc, but he caught me. :D

Is there a website that shows how many of each disc came out like there was last year?

It used to be at http://www.zonedriven.com/roc_art_2006.html but it doesn't look like its up anymore.

I too would like to know when the X-outs will be aviailable. I want to know if i should go ahead and throw my ones coming in Monday or if i can wait for the X's :)

http://www.zonedriven.com/guide.htm

How bout dat big Mullet on da front of the www.zonedriven.com (http://www.zonedriven.com) webpage.

thanks innova and zone driven.

48 hours after placing my order i got my order. exactly what i wanted.

thanks

: ) :

I know that mulleTT! You making it down to da castle tomorrow? Gonna be 80!

Are any of you guys getting tracking confirmations or billings on your credit cards yet? i haven't received either and was just wondering if my order really went through... :confused:

Already received mine. Got shipping confirm and tracking info on wed. The SBs do not feel the same as the original 2005 SBs. Gummier and not as stiff. Nice though. Although I'm sure some people hanging them on their walls will have some complaints about paying top dollar for discs that appear less than perfect (typical SB/Star visual imperfections). I throw mine and don't care. I love the star plastic.

the SBs are the same as the prereleases at the usdgc.

dave was refering to them as semi-ontario rocs. not sure what that means though

: ) :

After comparing the new SBs to the original SBs I noticed that they do apear to have slightly different noses. I'm guessing that they will be more overstable than the originals just like the most recent spectator rocs. I think the originals may become very sought after, as it seems there may not be a comparable replacement. My 180 red Celtic is much gummier and flopier than my 177 original red SB rocs. This is not to say that I won't like the new ones. I'm sure I will. I'm just glad I have four of the originals.

here is a little news to make everything more interesting.

my roommate came home tonight wiht his new SB Rocs. one is like mine. the other is the same as the original '05 SB. dommier, stiffer plastic. and the different nose. strange, wonder how many there are like that, cause i want them.

: ) :

My pink star baby roc is more like the original SBs than my red SB celtic. It's stifer and domier. Still not the same though. Not that it was supposed to be.

Anyone else NOT get what they ordered? I only purchased one disc, and I have the email confirmation for it. Today I checked my credit card statement ant there was a credit back for the charge. No email or any other form of contact as to why I won't get my ROC this year. I guess only peeps who order 50 really matter.

Pretty sorry way to do business.

You may want to read the Zone Driven site, that states expect two weeks for delivery,beofr you start pissing and moaning. Most of the people, who have recieved there discs ordered the Partners Package and the discs shipped last tuesday.

you may want to read his entire post before talking about people pissing and moaning

: ) :

Whatever man. You obviously don't have a clue what my problem IS. I have just been in contact with ZD and they are looking into it.

No
they know EVERYTHING.
This is the 2006 USDGC roc thread...

Well, looks like everything is cool with ZD. My order is waiting to be shipped. My apologies to them and big thanks to JP for getting it straight.

However, I am now officially mad at Mastercard for making me crazy this early in the AM. I have made an #$*&$! of myself and it is all their fault! ;)

I think a lot of us are anxious to get our Rocs. Perhaps a message from Zone Driven posted here with an update on where things stand would help ease some concerns.

Remember that the shipping tracking number comes from "Quantum View" and not Zonedriven. Make sure that it didn't end up in your spam file.

Mine should be delivered tomorrow.

Did you order on the 8th or before? I've not received a message from Quantum View in my inbox or spam folder.

Just some friendly advise and a few words about ROC day.

It's alot better to get ahold of Zonedriven either through email or by phone if you have a question or concern about your ROC order rather than posting on the message board.

I've been fortunate to be a vendor that lives close to the warehouse and I've been down there the last 4 years around ROC time. Not only do the folks down there bust thier humps getting the ROC orders ready but they are also carrying on normal business. Fulfilling regular orders, billing, shipping, sponsorship responsabilities, and everything else that goes along with running the biggest Disc company out there. And most of them don't have the time during the day to constantly check the message boards. But if you contact them then they are always willing to help out as much as they can.

I ordered on the 8th at zero hour.

They are busy as bees down there. I called them the next day on a custom disc order and everyone seemed a little tired.

I have to say that ordering this year was just about as smooth as possible. My advise is to not panic. If you have to panic, call them. They are a bunch of great guys that have always come through for me.

Thanks Rick and Anita, good advice. I just called and it sounds like they shipped some orders on Thursday and a few more a Friday before they stopped. They're back at it today and are in the 100s as far as order number (they are shipping sequentially). I'll just hang tight and be patient.

For you guys/girls that were unsure of your orders going through, did you eventually get a confirmation or did the package just arrive?
I did two orders in a row and got confirmation on one and got the discs two days later...haven't heard anything about the rare one in the second order though...I'm not freaking yet, I simply email. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I can't believe that there are 2006 CE ROCS on Ebay for above face value while zone driven still has them available.

stupid is....stupid does..... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Anyone else NOT get what they ordered? I only purchased one disc, and I have the email confirmation for it. Today I checked my credit card statement ant there was a credit back for the charge. No email or any other form of contact as to why I won't get my ROC this year. I guess only peeps who order 50 really matter.

Pretty sorry way to do business.



So, what happened? I just checked my debit card balance, and the $260 has yet to be taken off, I think I'm in the same boat.

Just got mine in, orderd a 179 Ice Eye Roc and got Lime. :confused: Other than that alls good. The Blue SBs i got feel stiffer than the Red ones of the same weight.

I got my box today. Very happy. I got some yellow and pink Baby Roc's that have black swirl in them. The Ice disc's are a tinted blue and some tinted purple. The black with gold stamp is too sweet.

Great job guys.

If there's a way to check your order's progress on the ZD site, I can't find it! Would love to see when I'm getting my discs. And I hope I get what I ordered this time, especially the purple ones! They were in my cart when I checked out and in my email confirmation. Just wish I coulda got a black star roc (well two, one for me and one for my son) . Can anyone hook a brother up? rWc3523 :cool:

Fat chance. I wish I could have got a few. I was able to score 5 ice and 4 Gold both at 179G. I am looking for another black baby roc at 180G or 179G for trade if anyone is interested PM me.

Hey, it never hurts to ask. I got a hookup on the 05's when I couldn't get into the system last year. Ended up with more than I expected, but it was all good. They're gone now! :D
rWc3523 :cool:

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

More to come tomorrow.

March 17th Rocs on there way!!! GIggles... HEHEHE Can't wait.....

got clear got ice !! :D

Mine are comming today, whoo hoo 6 LB of fun

I want to know which '06 roc is going to be most overstable:

180 star
180 Eye Champ
180 Glow

I realize theoretically which ones are more overstable...but I want to know from people that have thrown them, thank you.

If the 06 glows are anything like the 04 and 05's the 180 Glow is the meat hook in that lineup.

If the 06 glows are anything like the 04 and 05's the 180 Glow is the meat hook in that lineup.



This I know, Moolie. I just want to make sure before I start hucking. Then again, there's snow on the ground again...maybe a nice colored disc so I can use it this month.

Anyone else thrown the '06 champ, glo, or star rocs?

I had the opportunity to huck my beautifull black and gold 180 star Roc and it is a nice stable to over stable disc. I would say it is more stable than the previouse years special blends most likely due to its Rancho VS Ontario mold. It flies similar to my beat in 01 Roc which will go back in my bag when the snow melts.

How do the 06 SB compare to the Spectator SB? I've only got to throw the Spectator twice, and it was very stable with less fade than the 05 SB. Is this what I can expect from the 06's?

I have not thrown any of my special blend 06's yet but the star plastic Baby Roc is more over stable than the spectator Rocs.

I've got a 2005 SB, 2006 SB, and 2006 star in my bag right now, and I'll probably see what I think about them. For some reason, the flight plate on the 2006 SB feels thinner than the 2005 SB. I don't know whether this is a difference in the molds (Ontario vs. "Semi-Ontario") or differences in the mixture of the plastic.

Still would like to know about the two champ moulds...glow or champ...which is overstable.
I basically want to know if my super overstable roc (06 eye or glo?) can replace my champ gator. Anyone?

thanks for the info on the star & sb.

Well in past years and stated from Dave. The CE Glo Rocs are the most overstable.

Whats up with these special blends this year??? They don't quite look anything like the 05's???? Hmm. They don't glide nearly as well either. The 05's were the best rocs EVER!!! Though the Gold one's seem to feel more like the 05's than the other colors that I got. hmmm.

Well in past years and stated from Dave. The CE Glo Rocs are the most overstable.




From Dave D thread...

I don't know first hand, but from what I have been told, the glow are the most overstable. I would ask the east coast guys, or other people who have thrown and compared



I'm just trying to get a field report before I throw one of my 5 rocs that I bought this year (1 glow & 4 eye's). all I want is the most overstable sucka without sacrificing my investment.

save all five and buy a Q-sentinel.

save all five and buy a Q-sentinel.



Unfortunately, QSen's are just as rare up here....kinda like rams! ;)

save all five and buy a Q-sentinel.



Pennywise, How does the Q-sentinel compare to a Z Wasp? How do they hold up? I've broken in several Z Wasps now, and they have a great right turn flight path after broken in. I'm wondering how long it takes for the QS to break in and loose it's overstable characteristics (like ALL overstable mid-range discs do eventually).

El_Verdad. You are not the first to buy a stack of USDGC Rocs and wonder, which one you should choose to throw? Last year, I heard the same thing about the glows you are hearing this year. I pulled one [�05 KC Glow] out of my stash, and threw it a few rounds. I liked the way it flew, but I had a hard time finding it occasionally because of the color � or should I say � lack of color in glow plastic, so I boxed it. A couple months later, a player at our course asked if I had any glow Rocs, I said yes, I have one that is used, but in good shape. He offered me $40 bucks for it. Sold!
The only way you are going to find out if you like one plastic over the other is to get it out and play with it. If you are fairly careful, or not, and it�s a valuable disc to another player (collector or someone who just loves that plastic), it�s still going to be worth more than you paid for it, dings or no-dings. (Or if for some reason you know something that everyone else doesn�t know � that a particular disc is going to be worth mega-bucks someday, which I doubt you or anyone else knows FOR SURE � don�t throw any of them.)

This year, I bought at least two (or more) of the USDGC discs that I think I�m going to want to throw (heavy Baby Star plastic), and a few �collector� discs that I will keep in plastic for years.
Last year, I stocked up on �05 Special Blends, which I LOVE to throw, and I�m glad I have a few in reserve now � not that I need them, the �05 SB is one of the toughest discs I throw and mine is almost as stable (and ding free) as it was when I began throwing it a year ago.

Hope this helps � but if not, I guarantee you are not the only person wondering which of his/hers special Rocs you want to throw.

Well it's not rocket science.


Rancho mold is more stable.
Ontario mold is less stable.

I'm thinking the SB Retooled Ontatio will be less stable than the champion, star and glow plastic since they are Rancho molds.

Well it's not rocket science.


Rancho mold is more stable.
Ontario mold is less stable.




*please see prior posts*



Still would like to know about the two champ moulds...glow or champ...which is overstable.




Let me help you understand since it sounds like you haven't thrown the clear champion rocs and the glow rocs. Stop, read, ponder...don't answer to hear yourself type. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
---for the people that have thrown the 06 clear rocs and the 06 glow rocs, which model will be most overstable? No speculations, no guesses.

If you threw the 05 champ and glow champs last year, the glows were more overstable...even though they were the same mould. I know this. I also know that every run is alittle different.
What I don't know is how the 06 fly, not how they're supposed to fly.
If I wanted that info, I wouldn't have brought it here, I would have said, "Hmmmm, Zonedriven.com said the rancho moulds are more overstable."

clear? :eek: ...or glo? :D

I never said champion was more stable.

I have thrown champion 01, 02, 03, 04, 05 rocs and the 06 Spec SB Roc and the first glow roc.

From other top pros and myself can pretty much say the Glows are the most stable of all nex to the 01 roc. Next would be Champion/Clear then SB. As far as 06 rocs I will find out this weekend.

El_Verdad where just going to have to try them out man....

Josh

El_Verdad where just going to have to try them out man....

Josh



OK joshy,
I'm just asking for a specific response.
I didn't buy a crap-ton of them and I'm just looking to protect my investment. Let me know how this weekend goes :D

the truth

go throw them in a field a few times. Then you will know. they will still look brand new.

I found the '01s to be the most overstable.

The most stable CE ROC is the glo CE ROC any year. Most stable meaning harder to flip with the greatest end fade.

List of CE ROC stability.

Glo any year
01
03 through 06 clear
Star
02
SB

Glo CE ROCS will also be the most durable (straight from the folks at Innova)

Disclaimer - this is a list of normal flight characteristics of the disc. Please take into account that no 2 golfers throw the same and might experience different flights based on a number of fluctuations. Speed, snap, angle of release, altitude, wind, whether you purchased an 04 or before that was at the bottom of the case before Innova started using stickers to prevent suction etc.. etc..

I took a SB and a Star out today, and really liked the way the star flew off the tee. It has a really beefy feel, and I can't wait to break this in. I've currently got a 2005 SB in my bag, but we'll see how long it stays there. My perfect roc is slightly more stable than the 2005 SB, and I really feel this is the disc I've been looking for.

nevermind.

Don't get me wrong guys, I am cool with the arrangement that we have come up with, but...
How, with "real-time" stock availability do I not get what I ordered? It doesn't make much sense to me at all.
I don't feel this is worthy of a call to ZD, hence why I am posting it here. I don't think I was the only person that this happened to either.
Thanks for working with me on the substitutions, though. I appreciate it.

ICE ICE BABY!!!

http://www.widiscgolf.com/pdga/iceice.jpg

nice ice. :)

Don't get me wrong guys, I am cool with the arrangement that we have come up with, but...
How, with "real-time" stock availability do I not get what I ordered? It doesn't make much sense to me at all.
I don't feel this is worthy of a call to ZD, hence why I am posting it here. I don't think I was the only person that this happened to either.
Thanks for working with me on the substitutions, though. I appreciate it.



I had 7 that I ordered and did not get!!!

Well I ordered 5 of Ice and 4 of Gold Hole 7 at 179G and they called me and said they gave my 4 more Ice at 179G because they couldn't get me gold. I was definately ok with that. Heck 9 Ice at 179G they only made 14 in the Eye stamp and 99 total between the two stamps of ice of all wieghts. hehe

I got 9 Ice rocs last year and 5 clear ones. The ICE from this year doesn't compare to last years. Last years true ICE rocs were almost completely clear. Though they had a very slight amount of blue, purple, or pink in them. Not as much as this years though :(

Yes I have a couple Ice from last year. Either way this years Ice is pretty sweet also. :cool: I was also glad to score a Black 180G Baby Gold Stamp Roc. Those are sweet too.

ICE ICE BABY!!!

http://www.widiscgolf.com/pdga/iceice.jpg



I'm getting creaped out with them looking at me. ahhhhhhhhhh :p

Seems like Gold was the problem color then, eh? That's what I missed out on. #7 I don't kno... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;)

I was upset too. I agree if this new system was to allocate each roc then we should get what we ordered. I'm not going to call them about it since they made good with the remainder of my order. So I'm very happy this year with what I received.

Have they started to sell the x-out version for the 06 CE roc's?

Just so all of you know, I got a chance to throw the 2006 rocs in a field this weekend and now I know which is the most overstable and how all the different moulds fly. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just so all of you know, I got a chance to throw the 2006 rocs in a field this weekend and now I know which is the most overstable and how all the different moulds fly. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Thanks for sharing, it would be great if you were to elaborate on how each flew.

I can tell you the champion one's are nice and meaty overstable. I went out and threw a eye roc 178 with a 10 mile head wind it held the line nice and faded calm and left.
Down wind it held the line and had a nice stronger fade.
I think the SB blend one's will turn over.
Hope this help's a bit.

Just so all of you know, I got a chance to throw the 2006 rocs in a field this weekend and now I know which is the most overstable and how all the different moulds fly. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Thanks for sharing, it would be great if you were to elaborate on how each flew.



Kinda sucks wanting, doesn't it? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Not really, I don't throw rocs, but other people here do.


Alslo the X-outs are at zonedriven now :eek:

Why don't you enlighten us Mark?

Are the X outs stamped with the Zonedriven stamp this year?

I get my Rocs today. I'll let y'all know how they sit on the wall. :)

x-outs have the eye stamp, i have 9 of them!! black star with eye stamp,many ice's,1 glow,and 2 clear (no color)!! :D

Are the X outs stamped with the Zonedriven stamp this year?



here is some examples

ebay1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DISC-GOLF-FRISBEE-RARE-ICE-U-S-D-G-C-CHAMPION-ROC-180G_W0QQitemZ7228590929QQcategoryZ20851QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)

ebay2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DISC-GOLF-FRISBEE-177g-SPECIAL-BLEND-ROC-U-S-D-G-C_W0QQitemZ7228587492QQcategoryZ20851QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)


looks like they didnt do anything specail :confused:

Well ya they are X Outs...............What did you expect?

I liked the Zonedriven stamp for the X outs.

Why don't you enlighten us Mark?



I'll do that on Sunday Daemon! :eek: :D

Did anyone else find a "laxed" description of colors like I did? I have "lime" that are grass green (undesired) and "lime" that are day glo (desired)?

Did anyone else find a "laxed" description of colors like I did? I have "lime" that are grass green (undesired) and "lime" that are day glo (desired)?



Did you contact Zonedriven? Jonathan and the folks down there work with you. They're the best in the business at doing that. If that doesn't work I'll buy them off your hands right now. Same offer I make every year.

From the pictures, I thought the BabyRoc and EyeRoc stamps would be the best.

Now that I have the discs in hand, I have to say with no reservations at all that the Throw Back stamp is the best one this year.

I have to say with no reservations at all that the Throw Back stamp is the best one this year.




I could tell that from the pictures...too bad ordering a 180 blue and 180 lime in Throw Back at 12:15 the day they were released actually got me a 179 blue and 179 lime in Eye... :(

I agree about the throw back stamp. The only two that I got that aren't star plastic are two 180 red throw backs. They look awesome. I'm definitely going to put one on the wall, but I'm not sure I can bring myself to throw the other one. Hopefully I don't run out of 2005's till next year.

Exactly! I have a 179 lime TB that is dark green, a 179 lime eye that is neon or dayglo, anyone else not sure if they have a pink or light red, I have an xout that i'm not sure if its pink or light red, I do have red champions that are much darker than it, but i have also seen very light pink.

Exactly! I have a 179 lime TB that is dark green, a 179 lime eye that is neon or dayglo, anyone else not sure if they have a pink or light red, I have an xout that i'm not sure if its pink or light red, I do have red champions that are much darker than it, but i have also seen very light pink.




thats not as bad as geting 15 discs out of your order of 31 (with about 7 replacements of the 15) because they forgot to ship your order

I love the variety of the pinkies...I'm throwing the highlighter pink and "walling" the lighter, pink lemonade 180 eye.
My grass green with a redeye stamp looks nice looking back at me on my window sill at work (although no one has been able to figure out what it is yet, except one guy from a couple that were looking at a Jetta...yep, they bought!)
He asked if a champion roc came with the purchase of a new car....I couldn't let one of my first's go....but I'm getting ahold of David at ZD today and getting him one.
It's the least I can do....now that's customer service! :D

need help:

if i throw my blue 05 SB Roc how will it compare to my red 06 Spectator SB? i know the 06 are semi-Ontario-like and the 05 are more Ontario-like. how much less stable are the 05's and do they have less fade and/or more hi-speed turn?

...it is a tough decision whether to pull that blue 05 SB Roc down off the wall...

Here's my 2006 Roc experiance so far.

Ordering was much faster and easier. I got my order in within the first 20 minutes. I never got a confirmation email but my credit card showed authorization for the four discs I ordered. After 8 days, I got a call from Zonedriven that there was a problem with my disc order and they did not have the 180 Blue Throw Back disc I ordered. Said they would either find a 178+ blue one or fix me up some othere way. Was told they would make it right. Discs got in Wednesday (two weeks after ordering) and overall, I give the whole process an A-. I got a 179 Blue Throwback, a 179 Ice Blue (instead of 180) Eye stamp, and orange and yellow Baby Rocs at 180g. Almost exactly what I ordered and they are all sweet. It worked better than the last two years so I'm a happy customer.

How do they throw you may ask? I have thrown the Blue 179g Thrown Back and the 180g yellow Star Baby Rock 8 times each on a football field at 5100 ft (Western Colorado). Each throw was between 300-350 feet (actual distance since it's easy to measure on a football field).

I found that the Champion Roc (Throw Back) threw about like the 04 and 05 Champion Rocs. Pretty straight for 2/3 of the flight before hyzering out noticably. Did not really have a high speed turn but a straight flight. Over time my 04 and 05 Rocs have beaten into a nice straight line with some fade at the end but they started out pretty overstable at the end of the flight.

Pretty similar with the 180g Star (Baby Roc) but with a couple of differences. It felt like it had a little more glide and did not fade quite so hard at the end. It had no high speed turn and started its fade a shade farther (about 3/4) in the throw than the Champion plastic Roc. I got slightly better distance with the Star Roc too but based on only eight throws apiece I would not say that's a sure thing. I do not know which will "beat in" faster but I'll start that on the course this afternoon.

I threw them both turned over and they both S-turned out of it. However, I'm at 5000ft+ so things flies more overstable up here. Either way, these discs are what I want to throw and collect so I'm psyched. I only wish my "Ice" Eye stamp was more Ice with less Blue. Still a cool looking disc but it seems to be a fine line between calling a disc Ice Blue or Blue in color. Oh well...Max happy :cool:.

Thanks Zonedriven and Innova! I hope to throw well enough at Ft. Morgan, in June, to qualify :D for the tournament I'm a sponsor of again.

-MAD Max

Thanks for the feedback on your Rocs Max. It's nice to read a post from someone who's straight up with the info, i.e. no games.

I have had about the same results throwing here in Carbondale, except as you can imagine, at 6170 ft. things fly a tad more stable than in Montrose. I'm very happy with the Roc's I got ... all are exactly what I ordered, and zonedrivens customer service was excellent. I have to say the most beautiful Roc I got was a dark purple "blueberry" throwback stamp (blueberry with silver stamp). This thing is the sweetest Roc I have ever seen and looks great next to my blueberry and gold Star SL.

I will only be throwing one of my 179 Star [yellow] Rocs. I throw an '05 Super Roc that works great for me when I need an overstable Roc.

PS. I got one of those blue "ice" Rocs too ... and was also a little disappointed to see how blue it was. Not really and "ice" color IMO. But it's still pretty cool.

It's nice to read a post from someone who's straight up with the info, i.e. no games.




Don't hate the player, hate the game.... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;)

Thanks for the ambiguous posts & two sleepless nights of agony whenst trying to figure if I should throw the glow and settle for max overstable-ness with no cool colors or take a chance throwing my pinky eye and not being happy with the overstability.
I only played games with those that play with me...right Mr. Egger? ;)

A free Champion Roc with the purchase of every new Volkswagon Jetta! See salesman for details !!!!! :eek:

How about a Aviar for a test drive !!!! :D

You make the trip out from Cali, I'll make it two Aviars!

So I posted earlier that I thought the 06 Rocs were similar to the last two years in overall flight based on a few throws on a footbal field. Then, I went and threw a round after work with the two Rocs mentioned in the above post and I have to change my overall view of how they fly. The two Rocs are a 179 Blue Throwback Stanp and a 180 Yellow Star Roc. There was a slight 8-15mph wind affecting my shots.

Overall I would say they are more stable (meaning to fly straighter, longer) than the 04 and 05 Rocs I've bought. In other words, they are not "stable pigs" (meaning overstable) as some people refer to discs. During the round, they still did not have much, if any, high speed turn but also did not come back as hard (slow speed turn) as the previous years' Rocs. I would almost compare them to a new Buzz (hope the Discist people who only throw one companies plastic don't recoil in disgust :eek:).

Overall, both still great discs and I still think the Star Rocs are straighter (Less slow speed fade) than the Champion Rocs. I just feel they stay on a line longer before fading than I thought while throwing them on a football field. If I was going to throw a shot for an overstable midrange (and had to throw one of my Champ Rocs), I would probably reach for my 05 Champion Roc because the 04 Roc is a little too beat up and the 06s are less overstable than both. If I wanted to turn over a disc and have it hold the line for a long time, I'd go for one of the new 06s (probably the Star). If y'all want overstable pigs, you better go with Glows of most years (So I hear, but have little experiance with). If ya want a disc to hold the line you put it on with a little fade at the end, enjoy this year's discs. Hope this helps those of who want to throw only a few of your discs and "invest the rest". Sorry it wasn't in time to help you El V!. :( Just got 'em the other day and have been too sick to field test 'em.

Happy Roc chuckin!

MAD Max

I felt that my 180 star was very, very stable in flight with little to no high speed turn...of course it was one of those very windy days...
even in those winds ( I tried both head and tail winds) the glo was the most overstable but suffered in glide vs the standard champion.
I think I'll stick with my gator for my NASCAR (LH turn only) disc and my pink eye ( i love saying that! :D) for the tunnel shots...

Just a quick note to say that my rocs rock. The glo was great this weekend for low-speed S shaped approaches, the champ pinkeye was dead on, and I tried a new SB as a turnover disc...with a few more rounds under it's belt, it's going to be a great turnover roc....it's got potiential.


Also, my friend was throwing a 166 champ eye in mild wind and it wouldn't flip into flat like we suspected. Even the lighter wiehgts are overstable.

Great job on the rocs this year!!!