oklaoutlaw
Feb 15 2006, 10:55 AM
It is coming quickly the first JDGF event of 2006. Just to note we are only hosting 4 events this year so we can make them bigger and better! All of them will be 2 day events.

Z Boaz April 1 & 2 Will be a great one. This course is one of the best (not just) in the DFW area and is ALWAYS a challenge. So bring your game.

You can register online or print a registration to mail in HERE (http://www.jdgf.org/events.aspx)

We are limiting the field to the first 100. We will have Saturday morning registration until 9:00 a.m.(with no late fees Frank) if we have not filled up. Players meeting at 10:15 a.m.

The other 3 events will be:

Lucy Park, Wichita Falls, TX - June 3 & 4

Dolese Park, OK City - August 19 & 20

Twin Oaks Golf Club, Duncan, OK - October 7 & 8

cgflesner
Feb 15 2006, 11:16 AM
Why do we have multiple events going on in Texas on the same weekend?

Nac in April 1-2 and it is a qualifier for Texas States NT this year, and it is a B-tier. I would love to play events on my home course but I have to qualify for Texas States bonus money. :confused:

gnduke
Feb 15 2006, 12:02 PM
At least it's kind of rare this year, last year there were three events on a lot of weekends and a few had four.

okcacehole
Mar 08 2006, 04:27 PM
**BUMP**

garywatts
Mar 08 2006, 05:14 PM
Hey Tom how will the course be set up for this??

space76
Mar 08 2006, 05:58 PM
2 days, I might grin and bear it for Lucy Park. Ive been wanting to play there again ever since the Texas 10 there a couple years back.

jeterdawg
Mar 09 2006, 04:07 PM
It stinks that this is on the same weekend as the Pecan Park Open, traditionally a very fun event that has a GINORMOUS ace pot this year (that yours truly HAS paid for). I was hoping to play in more JDFG events this year, but the two-day factor probably will keep me from doing so. We're still lacking a sanctioned series of one-day events up here in North Texas like Houston has...I was hoping there would be a few JDGF ones, but I guess not. Maybe next year?

my_hero
Mar 09 2006, 04:16 PM
I agree. One day events are much easier to attend for busy people who like to play competitively.

okcacehole
Mar 09 2006, 04:24 PM
Are you SURE you paid for the ace pot Derek :o

Tom - will the course be setup as the baby-z again, long or mixed up over the 2 days?

Looking forward to Dolese also. Always good to be on my home course!

discgolfdog
Mar 09 2006, 04:49 PM
" We're still lacking a sanctioned series of one-day events up here in North Texas like Houston has...I was hoping there would be a few JDGF ones, but I guess not. Maybe next year?"

Alot of Mace's North Texas Series events are 1 day this year and most of those are sanctioned.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 09 2006, 05:03 PM
Hey Tom how will the course be set up for this??



I am trying to get all the pins in the long position and both sets of tees will be played. Should be a challenging Z. I am looking forward to it.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 09 2006, 05:11 PM
I agree. One day events are much easier to attend for busy people who like to play competitively.



I agree that 1 dayers are much easier to attend. However, running a 1 dayer is more work than a 2 dayer for your average TD when the tournament is "out of town" for the TD. If I lived in the DFW area, 1 dayers would be the way to go, but when you travel and drag a trailer and stay in a hotel, 2 dayers just are more comfortable to deal with. (just my opinion, other TD's might disagree).

Plus only running 4 allows me (someone with an equally busy schedule) to play in a few tournaments throughout the year and not just be a TD. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy running tournaments, but I still very much enjoy the competition of playing too.

my_hero
Mar 09 2006, 05:13 PM
I totally see that!!!!

If i can't make it Tom, i'll send a CTP stash with someone who can......

lauranovice
Mar 09 2006, 05:14 PM
I will talk with Don about playing this. It is the week just prior to Am World Doubles. He keeps saying he needs the practice. It is closer to home than Nacagdoches. I don't think we've been back to Nac since our life flashed before our eyes in Ken's car during the tornado.
Who else is playing?

lauranovice
Mar 09 2006, 05:16 PM
"agree that 1 dayers are much easier to attend. However, running a 1 dayer is more work than a 2 dayer for your average TD when the tournament is "out of town" for the TD. If I lived in the DFW area, 1 dayers would be the way to go..."
Well, easy answer -- move to the DFW area. :)

okcacehole
Mar 09 2006, 05:17 PM
I think we have at least 5 already that will be coming Tom...see you in a few weeks.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 09 2006, 05:24 PM
I think we have at least 5 already that will be coming Tom...see you in a few weeks.



Sounds good Adam. I do have pre-registration up on this site, so you guys can see who has already signed up. I'll be updating it every four or five days until the tournament.

Here is the Link (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5548)

oklaoutlaw
Mar 09 2006, 05:26 PM
I totally see that!!!!

If i can't make it Tom, i'll send a CTP stash with someone who can......



As always, thanks for your continued support John. :)

oklaoutlaw
Mar 09 2006, 05:29 PM
Well, easy answer -- move to the DFW area. :)



Easy enough said, and I am all for it....but, I'll let you talk my family into that one :D

CAMBAGGER
Mar 09 2006, 05:45 PM
Tom, have you read what I sent you yet? You seem to be avoiding the subject. What's going on?

oklaoutlaw
Mar 09 2006, 06:45 PM
Tom, have you read what I sent you yet? You seem to be avoiding the subject. What's going on?



Cam,

Sorry for not getting back to you in a timely manner. Yes I have read it and I have watched the DVD, which is headed back to you in tomorrows mail. I don't disagree with what is being said, but there was no revalation as to the content.

I appreciate your sharing this information and I will continue to re-read and study it also. Things change the more we study.

Again, sorry for the non-diligence in returning your dvds.

CAMBAGGER
Mar 09 2006, 07:48 PM
Thanks.

jeterdawg
Mar 10 2006, 05:13 PM
" We're still lacking a sanctioned series of one-day events up here in North Texas like Houston has...I was hoping there would be a few JDGF ones, but I guess not. Maybe next year?"

Alot of Mace's North Texas Series events are 1 day this year and most of those are sanctioned.



I just browsed over the North Texas Series schedule, and only one of those events is a Saturday-only event and is sanctioned, and it was in January.

I see your point Tom about coming down as an out-of-towner. Thanks though for making the effort to come down to DFW at all though.

Big E
Mar 21 2006, 11:03 AM
Has anyone registered online recently? I tried this morning and had problems. Has the tournament filled already?

cgflesner
Mar 21 2006, 11:29 AM
lol. :p

Big E
Mar 21 2006, 12:19 PM
Ya it did sounds funny after I typed it!

oklaoutlaw
Mar 22 2006, 11:11 AM
Eric,

Sorry about the online problems. We switched servers and web administrators at the first of the year and have had a few glitches in the switch. Mainly in our online registration. So, all should be corrected, or so we hope, and we are looking forward to a great April Fools weekend.

Big E
Mar 22 2006, 02:56 PM
I cant wait for Z-BOAZ as well!

cgflesner
Mar 23 2006, 07:34 PM
Tom, I was out at Z-Boaz today and there were a bunch of pitch and putt tees. These are only for the juniors right?

oklaoutlaw
Mar 24 2006, 01:08 PM
Tom, I was out at Z-Boaz today and there were a bunch of pitch and putt tees. These are only for the juniors right?



Yes that is right. Lee Letts set up tees for the Juniors and Recs to help the flow. If we had most of the Juniors playing even from the short tees to long basket placements, it would be veeeeery long rounds. So not to worry, you will be playing both permanent tees where they exist to hopefully the long pins. :D

(You didn't think I would make it easy for you did you?) :D:D

Mar 24 2006, 01:43 PM
What are we going to do Tom???? Without congestion on the course, nobody will have anything to complain about...... What would disc golf be without a bunch of people whining about everything that is wrong......
Remember boys and girls.......
Dont hate, appreciate.

cgflesner
Mar 24 2006, 02:00 PM
Excuse me for trying to decide which tournament that I am going to play that weekend.

That is what this discussion board is here for right. :mad:

Mar 24 2006, 02:51 PM
Simmer down, nothing but love coming from the discboomer!
Would like to see you there. You are one of the only locals that can defend the honor of that course. I for one, sure am tired of a bunch of out-of-towners coming in and playing their pimp hand on the z-crew. ( Yours truly included )Especially all of those Oakie's. Tom, bring down some of that oklahoma water. I hear it makes your drives 50 ft longer.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 26 2006, 04:56 PM
Feel good Chris, it is going to be as tough as I can make it at the Z for the Pros. Lots of long to long /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

AND

Lee, I'll bring you 2 five gallon jugs full of the okie juice to help you out with those drives :D

Just a week away!!!! Going to be all sorts of fun ;)

Big E
Mar 27 2006, 01:15 PM
"Just a week away!!!! Going to be all sorts of fun"

In the rain!

Mar 27 2006, 02:47 PM
The way my week has been going, better make it 3-5 gallon jugs! Looking forward to it. Hopefully the weather will stay nice. But spring in North Texas... :0(
Not likely.

Mar 27 2006, 03:07 PM
Just registered for Z-Boaz. Did notice that pre-registry in the open division was , well. Non-existant.....
But pre-regisrty for PPO is only to 5 in the open division.
The buzz here in town is that people are waiting too see who all will be where........ Kind of ironic isnt it.....

oklaoutlaw
Mar 27 2006, 03:16 PM
Just registered for Z-Boaz. Did notice that pre-registry in the open division was , well. Non-existant.....
But pre-regisrty for PPO is only to 5 in the open division.
The buzz here in town is that people are waiting too see who all will be where........ Kind of ironic isnt it.....



It is funny...how can you tell who's where? MPO is the hardest division to get any pre-registration if it is not an A or NT, even if you offer added cash. I had added cash and announced it 3 weeks before the date last year in Duncan and still only got 2 MPO pre-registrations.

Oh well, I have had calls from several Pro Masters and we should have a good field even though me an Luecke are the only ones signed up.

To that I will add....

We will be at Z Boaz Friday afternoon probably sometime after 2:30 to take registrations there. If we don't cap, We will take registrations Saturday monring from 7:30 until 9:00am. We will stop registration promptly at 9 to make sure we can tee by 10:15.

Mar 27 2006, 04:06 PM
I guess you just have to let the suspense build up. I know that a good advanced turn out should be expected. Not many locals are going to Kentucky. And I have heard that a good amount of locals will be there. If history tells us anything , there will be a line of people looking to register at 8:55. A wise man once said..... He who procrastinates, ............... I am sure you can fill in the rest. :0)

Mar 28 2006, 11:52 AM
RAIN, RAIN, GO AWAY!

lauranovice
Mar 28 2006, 12:33 PM
There is no rain forecast for this weekend.

Mar 28 2006, 12:39 PM
Possible hail and severe thunderstorms for sunday afternoon! I would like to place emphasis on POSSIBLE. If history tells us anything, north central Texas can be really unpredictable! I am going to start my anti-rain dance today!

oklaoutlaw
Mar 28 2006, 12:41 PM
This weekend forcast from the National Weather Service shows Saturday 80 - 82 with light winds to 10 mph and Sunday 76 - 78 with winds to 20 mph. No rain is even mentioned, not even a chance!!! :D

Sounds like perfect disc golfing weather for Fort Worth.

As the time draws closer!!!! :D

Mar 28 2006, 12:47 PM
Hey Laura, are you and Don planning on making it out this weeked?

lauranovice
Mar 28 2006, 01:39 PM
Don is planning on playing. I apologize for not signing him up early. I will probably come out for a little while, but not playing.

HFDS184
Mar 28 2006, 02:48 PM
I guess that means the Qs won't be at the Pecan Park Open. :(

lauranovice
Mar 28 2006, 02:53 PM
How ya' doing, Kent. Nice to hear from you. Sorry, we won't be making any overnight road trips for the next few months. Well, Don is going to Am World Doubles next weekend, but nothing after that. I am trusting him to Jerry Power. He also thought Z-Boaz was better practice for Wimberley than Nacagdoches. I would love to see you. Hope everything is going as wonderful for you as it is for us.

Mar 28 2006, 03:24 PM
If anybody out there is reading this .... Help.
I need volunteers Thursday afternoon around 5 p.m. at Z-Boaz. The mission : make the water crossing on 14 safe for all golfers. Especially the Junior divisions. It is in a horrible state as of now. It is hard for a grown man to cross and remain dry, which is twice as difficult for the little ones. If interested send me a private message or search my profile for my e-mail......... Thank you!

cgflesner
Mar 28 2006, 08:08 PM
Signed up today.

LETS SEE THOSE OPEN PLAYERS FOR THIS ONE! :D

space76
Mar 29 2006, 08:11 AM
If its not raining I will be there.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 29 2006, 10:23 AM
Casey, NO RAIN!!! :D

The forcast now only shows 20% for late Sunday and we'll be through by then.

BTW Happy Birthday to you and Lee today March 29th

oklaoutlaw
Mar 29 2006, 10:40 AM
Signed up today.

LETS SEE THOSE OPEN PLAYERS FOR THIS ONE! :D



Hey Chris, Thanks for the Pre-Reg. I hope you don't scare off some of those other DFW Open players :D Luecke and I might have to jump to Open :eek: not :D See you there!!!

okcacehole
Mar 29 2006, 03:28 PM
Tom - is there something in the PDGA rules stating you can't play for the ace pot if you play trophy only? Noticed on your website you listed that you can't be in the ace pot playing trophy only.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 29 2006, 07:53 PM
Tom - is there something in the PDGA rules stating you can't play for the ace pot if you play trophy only? Noticed on your website you listed that you can't be in the ace pot playing trophy only.



Adam, our website doesn't say you can't be in the ace pot, etc... it says your entry does not include prizes, (other than the possibility of a trophy) ace pot and ctps, but does include a disc (or a t-shirt) and a mini. The reason is that all the extra fees have been stripped out of the entry fee with the exception of the PDGA and SN fees. I am not sure if the PDGA has addressed the issue in the rules as far as ace pot, etc are concerned. They have set out how TDs are to determine the amount entry should be to play for "Trophy Only". The spirit of it is to have a "True Amateur" catagory that plays for pride and trophy, not prizes, merchandise or cash.

If you have further questions, contact David Gentry, PDGA Tour Manager or Carlton Howard, PDGA Rules Committee Chairman.

space76
Mar 29 2006, 09:28 PM
Good Question Adam. My forcast still says rain sat and sun, but thats Denton.

okcacehole
Mar 29 2006, 11:00 PM
Straight from your website Tom - this is why I asked..maybe it is just your wording on there


TROPHY ONLY These divisions are NOT competing for the Ace Pot, CTP's or other Merchandise. Should you finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd in your chosen division, you will receive a trophy for your respective finish.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 29 2006, 11:48 PM
Adam, I think I know where you're coming from. Our regular registration fee has ace pot and ctps included, therefore, the Trophy Only registrants are not competing for ace pots and ctps since those fees have been stripped out and then the entry fee has been reduced further from that. Does that clear it up for you?

Pizza God
Mar 30 2006, 12:44 AM
Can you play "trophy only" and pay to get into the ace pot????

oklaoutlaw
Mar 30 2006, 10:14 AM
Can you play "trophy only" and pay to get into the ace pot????



You are the first to ask the million dollar question. I don't have an answer to that. I'll call PDGA headquarters and ask if there would be some PDGA objection, if not, then I don't have a problem with it.

Bryan, I would like to see every Am play trophy only. I mean the spirit of the catagory is to play for Pride and love of the game. As it is, some lifetime Ams make more than a lot of Pros because they go to these big tournaments and win these big stacks of plastic and sell it all. I consider those players Pros, by the true definition. The are playing to get paid.

HFDS184
Mar 30 2006, 12:10 PM
How ya' doing, Kent. Nice to hear from you. Sorry, we won't be making any overnight road trips for the next few months. Well, Don is going to Am World Doubles next weekend, but nothing after that. I am trusting him to Jerry Power. He also thought Z-Boaz was better practice for Wimberley than Nacagdoches. I would love to see you. Hope everything is going as wonderful for you as it is for us.



Hi Laura! Things are going pretty good. I'm glad to hear everything is going so well for you guys. I'm getting back into golf after a long hiatus, so hopefully, I'll see y'all before too long. Tell Don hello and good luck at dubs for me.

Big E
Mar 30 2006, 12:19 PM
Are we playing 4 rounds of 18?

oklaoutlaw
Mar 30 2006, 12:55 PM
Are we playing 4 rounds of 18?



yes

okcacehole
Mar 30 2006, 02:56 PM
So would we just have to pay for the ace pot at the park then if playing trophy only? I didn't notice a ace pot option on the JDGF page.

oklaoutlaw
Mar 30 2006, 04:35 PM
So would we just have to pay for the ace pot at the park then if playing trophy only? I didn't notice a ace pot option on the JDGF page.



That would do it. Also, just so you know for future reference, Trophy Only players entry fee has had the series bonus fee taken out also, so if you want to participate in the series bonus, you will also need to pay for that.

space76
Mar 30 2006, 05:17 PM
So you can pay to get in the Ace pot, how much? Also is it gonna roll if not hit?

oklaoutlaw
Mar 30 2006, 05:24 PM
So you can pay to get in the Ace pot, how much? Also is it gonna roll if not hit?



Casey,

If you play Trophy Only pay an extra $5 to get in the ace pot and if you want in the series bonus that is $10. So Playing Trophy Only pay extra $15 and you are in ace pot and bonus pool for the series. If no ace is hit we will throw off for it.

okcacehole
Mar 30 2006, 06:20 PM
Okay Tom..while we still have you playing Q&A:

How many events do you need to qualify for the bonus this year?

Do you know what the format this weekend will be in regards to the course (i.e. Saturday long, Sun short, reverse of that, ect.)?

Thanks again

oklaoutlaw
Mar 30 2006, 09:34 PM
Okay Tom..while we still have you playing Q&A:

How many events do you need to qualify for the bonus this year?
<font color="blue"> all 4 </font>

Do you know what the format this weekend will be in regards to the course (i.e. Saturday long, Sun short, reverse of that, ect.)?
<font color="blue">Yes I do know the format and I'll let everyone know Saturday morning </font> :D

Thanks again

okcacehole
Mar 31 2006, 01:09 AM
Show of hands for MA1 players that are not already signed up...I see at least 15+ for the Nacodoches tourney and want to see who might be playing this instead...a 5 or 6 person division isn't what I want to compete in...

Mar 31 2006, 03:39 PM
Please do not let the number of pre-registered MA1 players fool you. Most of the course locals are going to be there.
Nobody in this town pre-registers, everybody always like to wait untill the last minute! Those are usually the one's complaining that the rounds do not start soon enough! Come on down and face " The Mighty Z " the park is in full bloom, and looking terrific!

space76
Mar 31 2006, 03:55 PM
Here is one more for MA1.
Brian Jacobs 26145 Yes 916 Fort Worth TX USA
He is on the pre-reg list for MA2. Unless the ratings guideline changed and I didnt pay attention.

Big E
Mar 31 2006, 04:09 PM
Calling out all sandbaggers!

Mar 31 2006, 05:26 PM
I am also confident that PJ and Britt will also be out there in MA1. I am also thinking that Shawn Robertson could
possibly make it out! Possibly Brad Bishop, possibly Eric Dodson, possibly Shawn " the wu " Wootan. You never know.
But I would say that MA1 division will at least double before tee time tomorow.

Mar 31 2006, 06:28 PM
I just confirmed at least five MA1 players for tomorrow.
And there will be more to follow.

Mar 31 2006, 08:04 PM
I just figured it out........... Everybody got scared of the " MIGHTY Z " and went to Nacogdoches.

CB2
Mar 31 2006, 10:39 PM
and one more Joseph Stettinger MA1 935 #26514

oklaoutlaw
Mar 31 2006, 10:39 PM
Here is one more for MA1.
Brian Jacobs 26145 Yes 916 Fort Worth TX USA
He is on the pre-reg list for MA2. Unless the ratings guideline changed and I didnt pay attention.



Casey, Brian pleyed 2 rated rounds last year and that is it. He was rated 906 after playing. They changed the rating system and his rating jumped up 10 points and he did not even play any additional rounds. With that he asked David Gentry, PDGA Tour Manager for an exemption to play MA2 this event and David granted it for this event. So, If the tour manager says he can play MA2 I am not going to argue. Also, given the circumstances, I don't blame Brian for asking for the exemption.

The fields are shaping up, Adam 10 Adv. for you as of Friday night and I know at least 5 more coming. There's your field, come on out.

Should be a great time, see everyone there.

BTW Registration in the morning will stop at 9:00am SHARP, so we don't have to wait past 10:15 to tee Players Meeting at approx. 9:45 to 10 and tee off at 10:15.

okcacehole
Mar 31 2006, 10:43 PM
Sorry Tom but we will not be making the event...we are going to Crawford to check out the 18 holes before the NTS

and this is not meant for you, but the PDGA has yet again made another bad call...if that is your ranking you play it...I have many events under my belt that aren't counted and some that should not be..

If you are above the 915 you are ADV...

Mar 31 2006, 11:21 PM
No way he should get exemption. He shot the rounds, no errors in the calcs, he should play where he is rated.

There is a clear line and it is 915, if you are there or above you play there, should be no exceptions. Think of how many players shoot bad the first time out and get to bag down for a stint, should someone be able to petition against them to make them move up? No, because the player shot those rounds and got the rating he deserved for his own play.

Bad call.

CB2
Mar 31 2006, 11:29 PM
I agree

okcacehole
Apr 01 2006, 12:36 AM
21 tournies played that count since 2001 but only 17 rounds counted towards that..not sure exactly the #'s on how they choose to use or not use rounds, but that would be 84 rounds played and they only used 17 of them

Back to the tourney Tom...good luck this weekend playing and TD'ing...hope it all goes smooth...

I plan on seeing you at Dolese later in the year..

Did you ever publish the final bonus stats from last year?

oklaoutlaw
Apr 01 2006, 12:51 AM
21 tournies played that count since 2001 but only 17 rounds counted towards that..not sure exactly the #'s on how they choose to use or not use rounds, but that would be 84 rounds played and they only used 17 of them

Back to the tourney Tom...good luck this weekend playing and TD'ing...hope it all goes smooth...
<font color="blue"> Thanks...I just hope we get another Master so Luecke and I have a 3rd person to make a group </font> :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I plan on seeing you at Dolese later in the year..

Did you ever publish the final bonus stats from last year?



<font color="blue">I had them up before we switched servers, but somewhere in the switch they got lost. I'll talk to our web guru and see if he can't get those back up in our results section.</font>

space76
Apr 01 2006, 03:26 PM
I think that is lame as well. 4 months ago I played rec. with Mike brownlow and now I believe after 3 events he is 920 in MA1. If you can get your rating above 900 in 2 events you should most likely be in MA1. I believe I am better than I ever have been now, and Im about to just give up on tourney golf. More of a problem than a pleasure anymore.

okcacehole
Apr 02 2006, 12:04 AM
Scores? :D

jbolstead
Apr 02 2006, 12:38 AM
Adam,
Not a 100% sure, but this is what I remember

Open - long, short, total
Coda = 49+45=94
Me = 57+50 = 107
Shawn Robertson = 58+52=110
Mike Grider = 58+55=113
John Leucke = 57+54=111
Tom - don't know

Coda shot -5 for both rounds on the front, and I was hoping to see a course record. Unfortunately, he caught some bad breaks.

I dropped a 6 on hole #1 in the opening round and have had some bad breaks, but it has been fun.

jbolstead
Apr 02 2006, 12:39 AM
Gilbert Casa was leading advanced after the first round with someone I don't know in 2nd and Brice in 3rd.

The advanced field looked to be bunched up after round 1.

okcacehole
Apr 02 2006, 04:02 AM
D*man KID ...rolling the pro field..keep it up..aces will help that payout...Jason..stay strong in there

okcacehole
Apr 02 2006, 04:04 AM
What format did you play Saturday?

jbolstead
Apr 02 2006, 09:36 AM
We played long and then shorts, but there was some wind as always at the Mighty Z.

#2 and #4 are in the short positions.

BTW - Tom posted the results from yesterday
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5548&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open