I would like to hear different reviews of all year model USDGC Rocs. Personal opinions on stability, durability, consistency, etc. I've had three different models. I loved my '01. I bought a couple '03s and they were domier and more overstable. I sold all these two models that I had when I quit playing for a couple years. I've picked up a couple early release '06 SB Rocs and they're less stable than my '01s, though they seem to have a very similar profile. I really like the feel of them. I'd like something in my bag similar to the stability of the '03s for bigger headwinds or when I need more of a hook than my '06s give me.

I've read that the '05 glows are the most overstable of the lot. Do they just dive at the end or do they have some carry with a nice hook at the end? Are they good for big head winds?

I look at the USDGC Rocs on eBay from time to time, but unless it's one of the three that I've had, I don't really know what I'm getting, so I'm hoping this will give me the info I need.

Thanks,
The Colonel

Get yourself a Z-Wasp if you want a cheaper overstable Roc...and for even more stability, get a Demon.

We have a few rocs form 2005 and 2004 usdgc,
would antbody like to make an offer before they go up on ebay?

Can't really help you out much, The '01s were more overstable than I needed, the '02s were much more stable (straight) and don't flip to easy. I had an '02 in my bag ever since, and haven't really throw any of the other year's releases.

Your '02 description pretty much fits the '06. I'll let you throw mine around some this weekend if you want.

I might try that, the '06s are easier to get than the '02s.

The 2006 SB is an ontario mold Roc, while the 2002 is rancho mold. The rancho mold should be more overstable with more fade at the end of the flight.

IMO, the 2003,4,5 rancho mold candy rocs all fly pretty similar.

The SB Rocs are the least overstable of the USDGC Rocs -- they are based on the blunter-nosed Ontario Roc (but the bottom of all SB Rocs say Rancho -- not Ontario). I carry the SB Roc as my overstable midrange and love it.

Expensive yes, but they also help a great cause -- supporting a prestigious tournament that puts prize money into the pockets of the best disc golfers in the world.

As for the $600 that some 2001 USDGC Rocs go for on E-Bay -- all i can say is they were best purchased at the time of release (i wish i had bought some) :D

ROC comparison is terms of stability.

'04,'05 glow ROCS- most stable ROC produced. Coming straight from an Innova employee "The champion glow plastic is also more durable then the normal champion plastic"

'03,'04,'05 regular run - The second in the stabilty category. Essentially the same disc over 3 years.

'01 green, red & clear - The third most stable ROC made. This is one of the truest flying ROCS out there, if you could find even a used one for under $150.

'02 - A straight flyer with a slower end fade. Very predictable and will hold a line.

'05,'06 Special Blends - As mentioned earlier, based on the Ontario mold. Once again a ROC that will hold the line that you throw.

Although there is alot of comparison with the ZWasp it is NOT the same disc at a cheaper price. The Wasp although a great disc does not have the glide that the ROC has resluting in shorter overall distance. This comparison comes from field testing by some of the top pros we have sponsored.
From a strictly collectors standpoint it's apples and oranges. CE ROC all the way.

Is that table based on overstability (little to no high speed turn, lots of low speed fade) ?
From the descriptions, it sounds like the '02 is the most stable(little to no high speed turn, little to no low speed fade) of the group.

I found the '05 SBs to be a little more overstable than the '02s, I haven't thrown the '06 SBs yet.

I thow ' 02s and I cant compare the SB Rocs to it. The SBs seem a little overstable to me as well but not to bad. They just dont have the glide the ' 02 Roc has. The ' 04 and ' 05 glows I would call very stable with 0 turn and a nice gentle fade at the end that really decreases with use and become a very straight Roc like the ' 01, minus the ' 01s tremendous glide of course. I would compare the ' 04 and ' 05 regular champion Rocs, but the ' 03 seems to have a slight less dome to it(a little flatter) and seems to be a little more of a straight flyer and is one of my favorites next to the ' 02
My 0.02

I got a chance to throw an SB '06, and I would say that it's less low speed overstable than the SB '05. Both rocs hold a very stable line at high speed, but I find at low speed the SB '05 has a similar fade to most champ rocs. I thew the SB '06, and I found it to have the least low speed fade of any Champ roc I've thrown. Kinda reminds me of a broken in KC roc in terms of low speed fade.

Thanks, guys. This really has been a big help. I think the '03-04-05 is what I'm looking for. The '04-05 glows sound like more beef than I want in a mid-range. I have a new (well, unused) Aurora MF 2.1 in my bag to fill that spot right now. I think the '03-04-05 is pretty close in stability to that. Before CE Roc, threw those exclusively for mid-range. That was back when you had three or four of the same disc with different degrees of break-in.

The ' 06 rocs are coming out the beginning of march and I would dare say the regular champion Roc mold will be in the same ballpark as the ' 03 ' 04 and ' 05s are in terms of flight characteristics. Plus you will be able to support the USDGC directly as opposed to supporting someones wallet.

Yes, join the rest of us frantically hitting F5 on zonedriven in March. I think a brand new 2006 CE Roc is only $25 if you can get one before the website crashes.. :eek:

The $50 I paid for the Spectator package will be well worth the money not having to deal with that feeding frenzy. I'll have my hand in the cookie jar a few days before the general public.

The $50 I paid for the Spectator package will be well worth the money not having to deal with that feeding frenzy. I'll have my hand in the cookie jar a few days before the general public.



I'll second that! :p ;) :D