The River City Flyers Disc Golf Club is proud to present the 2006 ST LOUIS OPEN - "A" Tier event for Ams and a "B" for Pros on May 20 & 21

Major sponsors include:

<font color="blue">Gateway Disc Sports
Innova Discs
Discraft Discs
New Belgium
Johnny Macs Sporting Goods
Brubex Trucking
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Every participant will play 4 newly renovated championship courses in Sioux Passage, Jefferson Barracks, Creve Coeur and Endicott. We have new 12x4 tee pads at two of the courses and plan on having the other two done the tournament.

We will be running 4 pools to accommodate a large field so you don't have 5 on a card..

Small entry fee and player pack worth over $50 for Ams. We include a catered dinner on Saturday and beer from New Belgium.

Players will be awarded vouchers and you can choose your own discs as prizes. No pre packaged prizes.

See www.stldiscgolf.com (www.stldisgolf.com) for details or see our full page ad in DGWN.

Or contact TD Ray Vuichard at 636-519-8161 or 314-210-3162 or 314-877-0430 or email at [email protected]

Pre-registation and payment required.


<font color="666666"> We are determined to put St. Louis on the disc golf map. </font> .

Move it to June and I will be there. Seriously these are all great courses and anyone who can make the trip definantly should. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

The Barracks is a great course and if you over drive 18 to the right a little, you can hit Dave McCormack's SUV in the parking lot! :D :p

The Barracks is a great course and if you over drive 18 to the right a little, you can hit Dave McCormack's SUV in the parking lot! :D :p



But if you take the best route you will birdie it 90% of the time. :o

The Barracks is a great course and if you over drive 18 to the right a little, you can hit Dave McCormack's SUV in the parking lot! :D :p



But if you take the best route you will birdie it 90% of the time. :o



While I like to think I have a big arm....I took a look at that shot and thought....there is no freaking way, man!

Then of course one of the locals I happened to be shooting with trys that huge turn over and it got spanked down right in the middle of that crap.

So, Ill take the sure 3 on that hole until I had the chance to throw that bad boy turn a few times. ;) :DWhat is the D on that one? 360-380 or something?

I birdied it like 8 out of the ten times I played it. All it takes it a well trained Sabre. :D

I would like to come down and play St Louis again, I got to a few courses on my trip to KC in 04.

It would be easier if it were the weekend before Kansas City but oh well hopefully I get a chance to go down for the event

I got it with a blaze skip up, unless I'm thinking of hole 9, is 18 the one straight up the hill to the parking lot?

Yeah 18 is the one with the Jungle between the Tee and the basket.

Will,
Your thinking of nine straight up the hill.
All holes have 3 pin placements, the hole Matt is talking about is the long pin on 18.
You can get an easy 3 going to the right or try a big anny over the jungle for the 2.

Matt 8 out of 10? :confused: maybe 4 out of 10 :D

Matt 8 out of 10? :confused: maybe 4 out of 10 :D



Kids these days eh Dave?!?! ;) :p :D

no actually 8 out of ten. Nikko and I got it every league night. I took a four on it the other two times though. :D

Mark Kane one of our locals here in the St. Louis area brought to our attention that the full page ad in DGWN on page 93 has the date as May 21rst & 22nd.

The correct date is May 20 & 21

I don't think this will be an issue.
It happens



Tee pads are dug at Creve Coeur and we should be pouring within 2 weeks. Then it's on to Sioux Passage.

About our website:

When you go to <a href="http://www.stldiscgolf.com" target="_blank">www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com)</a> you can see who is signed up so far. And, you can get detailed descriptions and pictures on some holes. We "really" want to showcase what we feel are some of the best courses in the midwest.


If you build it, they will come



We're almost done building them, Will you come?

I played Sioux Passage while visiting some family in Alton. The course had some very nice elevation changes but didn't blow me away. I tend to enjoy more narrow fairways and that keep you honest, maybe because I don't have a big arm. I'm thinking about making the drive out there. How are the other three courses?

JB and EndiCott are a lot tighter and Creve Coeur is open and long.

All 4 of these courses could hold a NT if needed...they are KILLER! I am anxious to play these again when I can call them my home courses...in like 2 weeks! :D

We are in the process of adding 2 additional pin placements per hole 9 making it 3 ) at Sioux passge. I'm sure this will add to the technicalness of Sioux, as at least 6-10 new plaeements will be in the woods, through tunnels or gaps on most of the par 4's. I woulnt consider it a totally open course anymore with the new placemets

SP has big elevation on the fairways but only the new tucked greens are difficult.
SP is the only course we havent choosen the pins for as we are just now getting them installed.
SP should play to around a par 65-66 when in the longest pins and anything in the high 50's would be SMOKIN!!!!!

The variety of the 4 courses is as among the best I could ever imagine! In my opinion these 4 courses combined are heads and shoulders above those in KC and BG.
The only real rival would probably be those in Des Moines!

Endicott is shorter and mostly park-like with a few that are tight and extremely techincal in places.
The course plays much harder than it looks on paper and there is anough risk reward for a wide scoring spread on each hole.

Jefferson Barracks has a lot elevation from tee to green and just as much around the greens but most fairways are not so dificult that reaching the green is the issue. You can 3 putt all over this course!
The length is about average at 6000' par 56-57

Creve coeur, is more technical than most would think for an open longer course. There are alot of HUGE trees that now come into play. If you played the old layout its no where near the same course.
It will play to around a par 69-70 but position off the tee is key on the par 4's not just Distance.
Being flat, it doesnt tire you out to play the course when it's close to 10,000 feet. all par3's are less then 350

We should have a grood field in all divisions as we are already starting to get phone calls and emails.

The players package should have 2-3 discs, a tee shirt, mini and more.

Iknow that there will be plenty of Fat Tire flowing saturday after the event and the food will be provided by one of the best chefs in the St Louis area!

Today I walked the new Sioux passage payout with the pakr director.
Everything is a GO!
We will be deciding on which of the 3 pins to use for SP real soon.
We have already picked out the ones for the other 3 courses, which are a good mix of all 3 at each course.

Waiting for the weather to break to put pins in at Sioux Passage and concrete tees at Creve Coeur.

Go to www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com) for details on the event. You can see who is signed up already. Sweet....

Ray,
I heard we were moving the pour date up for th tees at Creve Coeur to this Saturday.
Is that true?

I am going to give scott a call and work on getting the pins done at SP this week too if possible.
Since we need 1-1/2 yards of concrete out there I was thinking we should get several done by hand and use any remaining concrete from Cc out there.

On the promotion side of the event.
I have been emailing larry Bledsoe who is running Bowling green and it shouldnt be a problem getting a few flyers in the pkayers package as part of Gateways sponsorship of their event.

We should also make sure we get our flyers out and up early in KC, Columbia, Peoria and any where within a 6 hour drive.

Update:

Tomorrow Jerry Barklage the Course Captain at Creve Coeur will be installing the forms, rock and screen to get ready for the pour date March 4th.

I just got in the from Innova 20th Anniversary Aviars which will be in the AM players packs.

A question to all? For some out of town player's who have seen the re-design at Creve Coeur, Jefferson Barracks and Endicott. How do these courses rate against the other "A" tier events in the Midwest?

How to see you there.... :)

Update:

Framing, rock and screens were completed today by Jerry Barklage, Chris Lang, Tim Lewis with help from Tim's brother and Tom Barrett yesterday.

Pour date is Sat. March 4th... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Ray,
I have grand Opening at West City PArk in Festus this weekend on march 4th, thats a bummer, I may be able to get the 2 chris's to take care of that so I can edge and brush the tees.
I know Bob and Scott have the extra pins dug at Sioux passage and a few already poured, and I think we only need to move like 2 or 3 signs, before we get 1 yard of concrete out there to complete the rest of them.
I am hearing there are 4 pins for some holes, f theres anyplace that could use that many pins its SP, I think we have 40-60 acres and are just now starting to get pins in the woods. Once in the long Siuox pssage, Creve Coeur, Festus and Centralia will be the best 4 par 70's course in one are of anywhere I know.
Our ST LOuis open will have a top notch players package, Titan Portables for 1st place in at least the Advanced and the course will be WORLD CLASS!

Please spread the word and get you a group of 4 to make the trip.

Where's the player party going to be that you made reference to the "best chef in St. Louis" and the New Belgium products? Just curious for planning purposes (where to stay).

I'm coming from Des Moines, giving up Legion of Doom for the first time in about 4 years. I'm really looking forward to this. I started playing in Columbia, when I lived there till '99, and always wondered why St. Louis didn't have a big tourney like this. Awesome to see it happenin! Last time I was down to play that way was in Vichy! I've got one other guy coming down with me, and I'll be working on some more. I know the potential there. Good luck with all the projects Dave.

I know the food will be at Endicott as will the Fat Tire.
Once the park closes, I'm not sure where the kegs will wind up from there.

I would reccomend staying at the host Hotel Hampton Inn.
It is smack dab in the middle of the disc golf courses.
There is plenty of night life within 5 or 10 minutes of the hampton inn and even a bar in the Hotel that attrcts lots of hot young women.

If there are players who dont mind crashing on couches or floors. Just ask and I'm sure we can find some locals to put you up!

Will there be a saturday morning check-in? I might be getting in kinda late on Friday, assuming I go.
It's too bad the cardinals aren't in town that weekend. I want to see the new stadium.

Also, where is the host hotel? I don't feel like staying with my grandma.

Host hotel is at Dorsett and 270.
If you pre-register just show up at Endicoott on saturday morning for your pool assignement!

I probably will not know if I am coming down until sometime in april. Most likely I will be, so if you could find me a place to crash Dave I would appreciate it. It helps if I know I am not sleeping in my car :)

There will be no Saturday registration. You can call me at 636-519-8161 or 314-210-3162 on Friday and let me know your comming. You need to pay before you come Saturday.

Also, the course hotel is listed on the Website.

www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com)

Look under events May 20th.

The chef is Gary Suarez.

Concrete tees went in Creve Coeur Lake Park today. Nice..

We'll be doing Sioux Passage in late April if we can get the funds.

Meeting tomorrow of which some of the the discussion will be on "how to" raise funds to get concrete tee pads in what is in my opinion THE BEST COURSE in St. Louis.

Trying everything in our power to present St. Louis' First A tier event in the best light possible.

Good luck to you with the SP meetings.

Anybody in StL know Brian Vazzi? Been trying to find his number for a while, I lost it when I moved to DSM.

send me your number and I will forward it along to Brian Vazzi.
Are you coming to the event?

We had a meeting and voted to fundraise and put in concrete tee pads at Sioux Passage. So, the player's will enjoy conrete tee pads on all 4 championship courses.

Our website is down, should be up soon.

I think the will be poured April 15th.

We'd like to also announce another major sponsor. The River City Flyers Disc Golf Club welcomes The Disc Golf Association.

thanks...

Do you have tee sign sponsorships or anything? :confused: I may be interested.

Scoot, contact Dave Mac at Gateway. He's handling the hole sponsors for the tourney. We're putting our big sponsors on our schedules, scorecards and signs for all our tourneys this year instead of just the Open.

Our club website is still down. Details for the tourney are on the site. Call me, Ray Vuichard at 636-519-8161 with any questions on the tournament.

The club website with all the detail for the 2006 St. Louis Open is back up. www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com)

We voted to fundraise for the concrete tee pads and get them in before the tourney.

SIOUX PASSAGE IS AWESOME!

Some of these new pin placements combined with the concrete tees is reason enough alone for coming to this event.

Sioux Passge is shaping up to be one of the Top 10 courses in the country.
The other 3 courses are all ready complete and we should have the tourney pins set up soon for anyone who wants to come here and practice the courses in the tourney layout !!!!

We have tee sign sponships still available.
Anyone who is interested can email me and I will send you out the advertising opportunity. [email protected]

I think we have pre-registration for the St Louis Open on the webite now www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com)

Yes you can register and pay via paypal and see not only how many are in your divison but who they are.

The link to register paypal is down now. Should be up soon.

A little insight to disc golf in St. Louis. Our park system does not pay for anything. Not only that but they charge us to use the park.

We've managed to work a deal with them the last few years where we make improvements to the park and they let us play tournaments without paying.

What this means to the player is, you get 4 courses with concrete tees 4x12, new baskets in one park, benches and bag hangers as well as paver retaining walls in the parks.

We've re-designed all 4 courses you will be playing. The design and the amenities are VERY NICE.

As far as the bang for the buck. Try this on for size.

The am players pack value will be more than your entry fee. At minimum all am divisions get a Gateway Disc, an Innova Disc and a Discraft Disc. Not the cheap stuff either. And a tee shirt by Johnny Macs our local sporting good store. That's the minimum.

Pros have $1,000 added to their purse.

We have a free player's party at Endicott Park with free Fat TIre Beer provided by New Belgium. Also, we have a free dinner made by one of the top Chef's in Gary Suarez providing his services along with the SYSCO providing the food. This will also be at Endicott on Saturday night.

Here is another bonus we plan on doing 4 pools so you don't have 5 somes and big backups.

Oh, also you pick your prizes. No bag of stuff we're try to pawn off. We'll have several baskets, bags, discs by Gateway, Innova and Discraft. We'll also have shirts and hats.

We've been planning this event since Nov of 2005. We want to raise the bar for Supertour's in the midwest.

Please consider St. Louis on you tour...

I'll be there along with a few other springfieldians!

will there be a spring sizzler like last year?

No Sizzler. We want to focus 110% on this event. I think the Sizzler idea is out the window.

The pre-registration is working. It's via paypal through our website.

I passed my officials test so I'll be TD for a pool for sure Ray. I will start digging this Sunday EARLY. Send an E-mail to the members to inform them please.

FYI>>>

Work date March 26th to dig tees, clear brush, etc and the pour date is April 15th.

All player's will have concrete under their feet at the tees for all courses. NICE>>>> :eek:

I think we got 12 tees dug and cleared out the long pin on 5. Took a look at the long tee on 9, it could be one of the best holes on the front!! It will certaialy add a tightness factor that is needed on some of the tee offs.

The long pin on 6 played tough as the approach to the green is tricky unless you are really long off the tee.
I think we should make a nice path through the woods form the regular pin placenets for those who cannot make the turn on their drive.
This will make this hole very interesting during an event!

We played the course going from the pin on 11, wlaked through the small patch of wods, playing up hill to 15, back down the hill to 14 then played 12 and 13.
WE ALL ( 7 of us) agreed that the walk was shorter and made much more sense.
If the new 15 ( old 14 is on the long), the walk is not even that far, all of the other walking transtions are much shorter..

I think the layout today played to a par 60, I shot a 58 with a 6 on a par 3 and an OB on 18 for a bogie., Nikko and Tim Lewis shot 59, but we didnt play any of the wild flowers OB.

Can we get all 4 of the courses set up in the St Louis open layout as soon as posible?
Some peole were wanting to come down to lay the courses before the event and I;m sure our locals woldnt mind honing in on the layouts!! :cool:

I think we got 12 tees dug and cleared out the long pin on 5. Took a look at the long tee on 9, it could be one of the best holes on the front!! It will certaialy add a tightness factor that is needed on some of the tee offs.

The long pin on 6 played tough as the approach to the green is tricky unless you are really long off the tee.
I think we should make a nice path through the woods form the regular pin placenets for those who cannot make the turn on their drive.
This will make this hole very interesting during an event!

We played the course going from the pin on 11, wlaked through the small patch of wods, playing up hill to 15, back down the hill to 14 then played 12 and 13.
WE ALL ( 7 of us) agreed that the walk was shorter and made much more sense.
If the new 15 ( old 14 is on the long), the walk is not even that far, all of the other walking transtions are much shorter..

I think the layout today played to a par 60, I shot a 58 with a 6 on a par 3 and an OB on 18 for a bogie., Nikko and Tim Lewis shot 59, but we didnt play any of the wild flowers OB.

Can we get all 4 of the courses set up in the St Louis open layout as soon as posible?
Some peole were wanting to come down to play the courses before the event and I;m sure our locals woldnt mind honing in on the layouts!! :cool:

One of our course Captains, Scott Galvin has elected not to come to Bowling Green just so he can work on the course. That's dedication.

I'll post the pin locations we'll use for the tournament when I get back from BG, sorry Scott.

Dave, we'll have the pin in the St. Louis Open location soon.

We are doing a fund raiser April 9th to pay for the tee pads at SP. So, you'll have 4 courses with concrete tee pads which have all be re-designed.

I you haven't played St. Louis in the last year, you are missing out.

Check the website for detals. www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com)

Ray,
Post a picture of the full color disc on this thread ,
MAN IT IS SWEET, Nice job Jim Kenner and Discraft!!!

http://www.stldiscgolf.com/docs/internal/Art/DiscStamps/FullColor_NightArch.pdf

If this works, I'll be astounded.... :p

Looks like we'll be ready for pads on the 15th at Sioux. I can't wait to show her off.

I think I may be flying down for this one.........Anyone have any floor space or bed space for me if I can make it down for this one???

Dave McCormack is you best bet.

I've uploaded the pre-registrants and will continue to do so at least once a week.

If you built it he will come...

Hopefully I can talk the Park into letting us camp at Sioux next year. I think they only let the Scouts use it now. Bloody favortism. We're non-profit and do way more for the parks then those kids. The host hotel is listed on our site. I think they have a set-price no limit of people per room deal goin, you can ask them. Then you can bring a carload.

Millz,
You should have come up to me at BG I didnt know you were there.
Of course we can find some place for you, get pre-registered and we will take care of the rest.
PS, bring down your cannon, your up shot and your putting game, but most of all bring down your course management skills :D

Heading up for the last workday before the Pad Pour. I hear my co-captain will give away a basket on Pour Day to a lucky volunteer. Updates will come. Mac, if you come today please bring a camera along with you.

My camera is in the car, I'm guessing you are already out there.

Yes I was. Lewie brought the dumptruck out and got the gravel delivered and moved. Hole 9's fairway is cleared out. I have 8(?) more to form up. Looking good so far.

BTW, Everyone who helps us pour on Saturday gets a chance at a basket. CTP will take it I believe.

Man,
A day goes by and our event thread is on the 4th page.
Maybe there should be 3 different threads for A, B and C tiers or we could get smoe more St Louis guys to post :confused:

I have been getting a lot of calls about the event and have heard many players say they will come just to see our courses.
I dont want to keep boasting, hopefully those who come can do so after the event! :D:cool:

With out a doubt, 4 of the nicest course in one setting.
Who ever decides to roll into town even if just to play the courses will be very pleasantly suprised. 4 courses w/4 completely different personalities.

RonSTL
16479

sign me up - i'm coming down to da lou!

4 courses - 2 days -- now that's a vacation!

havent played sioux passage since the last deaf tournament that went awry. 2002? 2003? so i'm intrigued by the mention of longer and the mention that it's not a hyzer flip course anymore.

Jefferson barracks and Endicott are worthy. Control your first shot and you might have a chance.

creve - time will tell - reads like a roller derby.

Theres a lot of good roller ground there, but also lots of killers under the grass. Theres almost always a stiff breeze off the lake.

Checked out the new souix passage last weekend, great course. There are definatly shots to test all levels of players. I am planning on making it down for the open and seeing all the STL golfers. Maybe I can bring a convoy of Kansas golfers out. :D

Thanks for the kind review. It will play a few strokes harder for the Open then it did last weekend.

Scotty G,
I saw you called but couldnt catch it.
Do you have the pin placements for the ST Louis open from Mike?

Whats the scoop on Saturday, do you have enough guys, I may have to go out of town on business.

I was hoping we could use 17 B, the C is not as good without the natural grass ob's, plus that drop off to the creek adds some flavor to the course.
What do you think?

I may have an event out there so we can play EVERYTHING in the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG besides the par 3's, which all play pretty tough anyway, even in the short.

What do you want to use to mark the service road Ob on the back?

I need to address the BB court as well. I guess I will have to paint lines. I don't want to use stringline like they did in columbia a few years back, it always gets moved around. It would be easy if people could objectively distinguish beetween gravel and grass during a Sanctioned round. Gimme a call today, I am all formed and I want to lay some block today and backfill before we pour if possible.

I heard the pur went prety well today.
Hopefully someome stayed out there untikl dark to protect the new concrete.

How soon until the course is in the St Louis open Layout?

We had to try and fix a bunch. Took them A-holes 3 tees before they figured out they were wet. Stupid kids, and their little dog too. We still have #9 to do and move the poles on 1-8-18 and install a new one on 9. We're leaving the Rec Tee on 9 and having another sign made for there for the casuals. 1 more yard cart and it'll be done. If someone gets me a cart there tomorrow around 3:30 we can finish up before league.

The website www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com) is back up for anyone looking to register. I'll be updating the pdga site soon. You can see who is in on our site so far.

A reminder ams get 3 discs and shirt minimum in the players packs. We'll have many baskets for prizes. Free beer and a awesome meal Saturday.

Also, some of the best courses in the Midwest. New concrete tee pads on all courses. All divisions play 4 courses. Pros "B" tier were adding $1,000.

enough said...

Sioux passage is so sweet even when we played league in the shortys on Monday.
Dr Schmidt shot 50 and nikko and I 51's with a pretty good wind blowing.
Anything near 60 should be pretty good in the tourney layout!

Endicott is really getting green and the course is in such great shape.
If we can get fairways cut for Creve coeur that would add to the par 68 layout and make it easier for players to tell where the fairways are on the par 4's and five's.

Jb is always looking good and there are so many cool shots there and nice benches on just about every hole.

Grateful RON;
When will the JB course be in the tourney layout so we can get some practice before the event?
Can we keep it in the event layoutfrom here on out except for league days?

Your JB homeis wont have to much advatage if they are getting a chance to play the actual course until the week before.

10 holes are already there. We will move more holes before league but cannot guarentee any will be tourny placements. They are getting into position. Lots of preparation going on right now at JB. With Mark being down we lost one of our leaders but a couple of more have stepped up. If you are worried, I would get the Gateway crew up to help SP w/walls. Right now I feel that should be your biggest thing thought wise for the open. JB will be prestine, that is our goal.

Peace

Ron, I will be sure to make your tournaments next year, as soon as Worlds is over, I will be a player again and not a full time volunteer. ;)

You will totally enjoy the courses when you get up to STL. Right now I am in your shoes also. No play only work except for league. Definitely see you in T town for worlds.

Peace Bro,
Ron

Ron,
My guys who work at the shop drive all the way to endicott to play there because the course is always in the easy pin placements.
I hear you are the key holder and thought you could get the course in the open configuration sooner than later.

Do you have an exact date the pins will be ready.
Sioux passage is more than playable right now and after this week I believe scott will have the pins in the open placemebts, when will you.

The River City Flyers Disc Golf Club is proud to present the 2006 ST LOUIS OPEN - "A" Tier event for Ams and a "B" for Pros on May 20 & 21

Major sponsors include:

<font color="blue">Gateway Disc Sports
Innova Discs
Discraft Discs
New Belgium
Johnny Macs Sporting Goods
Brubex Trucking
</font>
Every participant will play 4 newly renovated championship courses in Sioux Passage, Jefferson Barracks, Creve Coeur and Endicott. We have new 12x4 tee pads at two of the courses and plan on having the other two done the tournament.

We will be running 4 pools to accommodate a large field so you don't have 5 on a card..

Small entry fee and player pack worth over $50 for Ams. We include a catered dinner on Saturday and beer from New Belgium.

Players will be awarded vouchers and you can choose your own discs as prizes. No pre packaged prizes.

See www.stldiscgolf.com (www.stldisgolf.com) for details or see our full page ad in DGWN.

Or contact TD Ray Vuichard at 636-519-8161 or 314-210-3162 or 314-877-0430 or email at [email protected]

Pre-registation and payment required.


<font color="666666"> We are determined to put St. Louis on the disc golf map. </font> .





A friend of mine is headed out there. Please show him your Hospitality and have him take pictures !!!!! :D

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Honestly I do not care. You did not answer my original question.

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For sure 1 week before the open. Most will be there sooner, but, the week of the open, actually at least 7 days prior they will be there.

To everybody else,
6 hrs working out there today on course prep for the open. Totally wore out. The course will look awesome. Oh, it already does, and we are only 400 feet short of open distance, right now. Been that way all week. Working again tomorrow 8am.

Peace,
RonSTL
16479 :D

Walls at SP will be going up later today or tomorrow before league. SP League will play the Open Layout for weeks 3-5 so it will be ready for practice by next weekend (or sooner if a crew is coming up). Only help I need with the walls is from Lewie and thats only if he can come up this far again. I need a hauler this week to pour the last pad and drop a couple posts in. Signs by next weekend?

I had to go throw the new tee pads at Sioux. It's sweet. Some of the most beautiful rolling hills with trees you'll see in disc golf.

As far as getting the courses in the pins that we will use for the St. Louis Open, we'll be having a meeting soon. I'd personally like to see it at least two weeks before on all the courses. As soon as we get word I'll post.

Hope you can me this one. It's worth the trip.

Mac, any chance of getting me a hauler today? I got a new phone, same number. I'd like to pour 9 today before league if possible. Webb and I are installing some glass blocks and bidding some jobs early today. I can get everything but the mixer up there.

I just wanted to say if anyone has the chance to come to this event they SHOULD or else they are really missing out on some of the best courses you may ever play :)

A friend of mine is headed out there from San Diego.

I'll be spreading the word in Memphis June 6&7 if all goes well. Dave, you and Nikko should go.

This would be a great tourney to play the weekend before the Challenge.

I'll be spreading the word in Memphis June 6&amp;7 if all goes well. Dave, you and Nikko should go.




huh ? that is after our event G.

Creve Coeur pins are in place, ready for practice..
Although, you may want to wait unitl this weekend, when the grass will be shorter.

Also, on our flyer we did not mean to leave off Advanced Grandmasters. There is one guy who wants to play it so far, so if you are over 50 and want to compete in that divison, please get registered as an advanced master, and send me a note at [email protected] and I'll update it.

Thanks,
Fritz

I meant May 6&7. Fritz, I birdied 18 at league last night with your orange disc.

Nice ! If that was a skin, I get half...

I may be going to memphis If I can get aplane ticket to Vegas for monday the 8th.
We are doing a show out there for our new Gateway -Quest products.

Players if you are coming to this event, please pre-register ASAP so we can know how much food to prepare!

It looks like all of the courses are in the open layout except JB, which should be ready soon.

For those who can get a few practice rounds in before, feel free to come on down, if you need a place to crash just call or email!

I called on the signs for Sioux. No answer from Ginger. We should have them soon. Did #9 get poured at Sioux?

Players pack disc from Innova is a 20th Anniversary Aviar, Gateway has custom stamped Wizards and the word is were getting Avengers from Discraft. Also, the shirst from Johnny Macs may be grey with black 2006 St. Louis Open graphic.

Please register soon so we'll know how much food to by for Saturday night at Endicott.

thanks all..

We have the signs now. They are floating between Course Captains now, should be ready by league tomorrow Night.

The Club site is down again. Try back tomorrow.

I can't wait to get back down there....Scott, is the puppy full grown yet, you better bring her.....
Peace
Chad

She is enormous. I figure around 65-70 lbs or better. I need a stud for her. 1 litter and shes gettin fixed. She got bored the other day and destroyed the brick patio. Still love her though.

Scott did yo get the memo about 16, it is supposed to be in the long daddy'o.

I wish we could have a few more in the long at SP, it seems like holes 3,6 and 17 all play to a par 3-1/2, especially without the wild flowers as OB on 17.
We cleared out the pins for 5 and 14, is there any reason we are not using them?

The course is looking sweet, I will try to get some pictures of each course for a new full color stamp.

We sold almost all of the full color fund raisers for the event and feel like a nice disc with a fukll color photo of a hle from each course of the event would be pretty cool.

I have a question I just found out about a week ago for sure I would be coming and was wondering if I needed to send in my money early or is it not that big of a deal since it is so close? But I am 100% sure I will be there so just tell me what I need to do.

Justin, When will you be gitting in again?
You can Pre-register on line at www.stldiscgolf.com (http://www.stldiscgolf.com) and pay when you get here, as long as it is before friday night at 8:00

I will be coming in at 11:00 a.m. so we will have plenty of time to sign in on Friday just depending on yalls schedule.

Justin,
Come on up. You want to see 4 different courses, w/4 very distinct personalities. You will not regret. We have a ton of payers on the bubble thinking about coming to STL. Do not pass it up. Want long flat w/big oaks, 8000 ft plus, go to Creve Coure, want 6-10M+ feet depending on the placements and mainly elevation change, go to Souix Pass, Want 5M to 7M+ w/BIG trees all along the way, go to Jefferson Barracks, Want 5M+ to 6M+ of all you want, placement golf, go to Endicott. These are the 4 courses that will be played for the open. I promise you one thing, you will be tired of your brain going, what do I do next. Yes, bubble players are out there by the numbers, but, anybody that comes and plays the open will NOT regret playing in STLs first A tier, I know of personally. My course is JB, see above. This thing personally, takes your golf game, and test all you got. Also, personally, Endicott is the toughest I have ever played. You must throw 2-250 accurately just to have a great upshot at 75-100 just to par. One of my best friends is Captain, the Chris Lang, AKA Clanger. Adv Masters players know him well. Anyway, that is his course, like JB is Mark and Rons course. We take great pride in our work, as well of the Captains at CC and SP. Also, if you can shoot anywhere near or par at JB, Endy, meaning 54 you are hunting. CC ATA Creve Coure 60s lowerish even upper 60s, is cool. SP AKA Souix Passage, now this is the one of the nicest layed out courses in STL area. Awesome layout, long, challenging, very nice. Any thing in the 60s is AWESOME. If you have any issue, come on down, you will not be dissapointed in the courses.

RonSTL
16479
Honesty is the best policy. All above spoken truth!
:cool::D

Well I am 100% sure I will be for the tournament I will be staying with Dave and going to Des Moines the next weekend. Like I posted above my plane lands at 11:00 a.m. so what is on their game plan is on my game plane. I will be playing Adv though. Also so my question is will anyone be over from Des Moines for us to sign up for that tournament because I figure it will be easier if I just sign up Friday in St. Louis for the tournament then some time that weekend for Des Moines.

Not sure who may be coming form Desmoines, but we should be heading up on friday, so there should be plenty of time to get registered then.

Alright thanks Dave and I have been hearing some rumors of some guys from LA coming up too but I don't know if they really are or if they are all talk.

I heard Doug Williams was coming from Mississippi.
Registration is growing slowly, St louis players are not used to pre-registering for events.

Yes I talked to Doug and he will be up for the tournament.

Justin,
Definitely headed to Des Moines on Thrusday after work, and can ride if you can wait till then. I know a AM1 that is headed up thrusday early if you need a ride. There will be a few of us headed up besides the GW boys. I am pretty sure the kid is headed there, but would have to ask him. I talked to him last week and his mind was on Idlewild. I cannot see him not going to DM because the pros get to play big creek instead of Grandview. The courses are looking awesome here. Come on up to STL.

RonSTL
16479

I'm staying with Dave so if he goes or Justin goes it all just depends on what day they go.

no biggie either way.

Ron,
Jb is looking good, do you think we should get Tim Lewis to cut 18's hill?
Is there any other area's down there that may need cut?

Dave, we could use Tim's mower at CC for a the small area west of 13's basket. The parks guys avoid it like the plague.

Are you in Vegas yet ?

Waidmann got all the holes dug and poles ready to move. Looks like its a small bit of clean-up this weekend. Ready to roll out the Red Carpet for our guests. Ron, the Hill misses you.

Yea if my wife would not have disowned me I might as seriously put some thought into it.

Inside 2 weeks and the games begin in STL. :D

I just sent this to all 225 River City Flyer Members, our local club here is St. Louis. It's geared to them, but you may find it informative.

2006 �A Tier� St. Louis Open May 20 and 21:

I wanted to send all the River City Flyers club members some details about our upcoming biggest disc golf event ever in St. Louis. This is our first �A tier� which attracts more people from out of town as the �B� tier we had last year. To give you an idea how big these can get, a few weeks back Bowling Green Kentucky had an �A� tier with over 550 players at the event. We don�t expect that many, but we are prepared to run up to 4 pools at the same time if needed.

For those who have not played in a PDGA event, this email will be very informative.

All players will play Sioux Passage, Endicott, Jefferson Barracks and Creve Coeur in the same course layout for all divisions. All of these courses are of championship caliper. The pin placements on the courses now are the ones we will be playing for the event. This will allow players ample time to practice. We chose to not put everything in the long pins but go with a mix of short and long for all skill levels.

We have Fat Tire beer provided by New Belgium for those of age, and dinner provided by Sysco and prepared by Gary Suarez which will be served on Saturday night at Endicott around 6:30pm. We will be giving away a minimum of 5 baskets at the event. For the Pros we have $1,000 added to the purse.

The entry fees:

All Pro Divisions $60
All Advance Am Divisions $50
All Intermediate Am Div $40
All Recreation Divisions $35
All Junior <16 Divisions $35

(note, there must be at least 3 players in a division)

There are actually two tournaments; An �A Tier� PDGA (Professional Disc Golf Association) and a �B Tier� Pro event going on the same weekend. Both are called the St. Louis Open. In order to play in an �A tier� amateur event you must be a current PDGA member. This annual fee for amateur players is $40 in addition to your entry fee. As a PDGA member you receive a quarterly magazine, a rule book and a PDGA number. You can join the PDGA when you register for the event. Since it�s a �B Tier� for Pros, you will need to pay an extra $5 if you not a PDGA member.

All players must register no later than 8:00pm Friday May 19th at Endicott. By register we mean sign up and pay. You can register online via our website and pay via paypal, you can get the registration form off the website and complete and mail with a check to the River City Flyers 15947 Silent Creek Ct, Chesterfield, MO 63017 by May 10th. Or you can pay an officer at any RCF leagues. We ask is you are planning to play, please register as soon as possible so we know how much food to prepare. There will be no registration on Saturday.

Overview of the 2006 St. Louis Open:

Register and pick up you players package for amateur players between (noon and 8:00pm) at Endicott Park on May 19th. If you have already paid and can�t make the registration May 19th by 8:00pm, please call Mike Fritz at 314-283-4015 to confirm you are coming. You can pick up your players package on Saturday night.

What is in the player�s packages? At the minimum you will receive the following:

� 2006 St. Louis Open stamped Gateway Wizard
� 20th Anniversary Innova gold Aviar
� 2006 St. Louis Open stamped Discraft Avenger Elite Z Plastic
� Tee shirt with the 2006 St. Louis Open by Johnny Mac�s Sporting Goods.
� Free coupon to throw a shot and win up to 2 portable disc golf baskets
� Program for the Event

(The player�s package is valued over $50)

There will be no players� package for pro divisions.

At 8:00pm Saturday all registered players will have a player�s meeting at Endicott Park. This meeting is to inform the player�s of the happenings for the weekend. We will announce what pool you are in, which will tell you what order you will playing the courses. If you arrive at Endicott with players in your car that play in separate pools, your passengers will need to get a ride from a player in their pool. We will announce this and allow time for players to find a ride. Don�t forget they will be coming back to Endicott for dinner so they can join you group then.

Players will go to their first round and start at 10:00am. Lunch is on your own and the second round will be at a different course and will tentatively start at 2:15pm. Your pool TD will post the time. Then, it�s back to Endicott for dinner and drinks.

On Sunday we will start at 9:00am at your 3rd course. The last round will tentatively start at 1:15pm. After the 4th round you Pool TD will have an awards ceremony and hand out prizes and trophies at you last course. There will be no final nine. There will be no combined awards ceremony for all players. We did this to get out-of-town players on the road timely.

We will payout approximately � of you amateur division in prizes and trophies for the top players. The Pool TD will distribute vouchers and you will go to Endicott to prize out. This way you get to pick out what you want. The top Advanced Pool will end at Endicott.

Our club has made every effort to make this a premier �A tier� event. Since it�s our first, we are making sure every t is cross and every i is dotted. Please consider attending.

Sincerely,


Ray Vuichard
Co Tournament Director

That Players pack is bigger than I've ever received. See you TD's and Vols Wednesday.

yo, this mike fritz got an email? i prefer email since i'm deaf.

i'm confirmed, done pre-pay - wont be able to make it to da lou before 8pm friday. can pick up player's pack saturday nite.

-kent
pdga #22662

Kent,
The courses are as choice as you have ever seen them. This rain, and drying out next week should make for perfect greenery on the courses.

RonSTL
16479

I know I can't wait for this tournament and get out to play 4 new courses then being in town for the whole next week.

Justin, when are you getting into st louis? I am planning on driving down thursday or friday next week

I will be getting into town at 11 but not sure what we are doing after that.

Come on down with a group! Do not miss this! We spared no expense to make this a very memorable tourney. The courses will not be in their most difficult positions. There will be no massive OB played at Sioux this go around. Spread the word, we've done the work.

We've got a couple from arkansas coming that are going to win DFL in advanced!!!! I can't wait for this tournment! The 3 coming for arkansas are 907, 908, and not even rated yet and playing advanced you should feel bad if we beat you.

We've got a couple from arkansas coming that are going to win DFL in advanced!!!! I can't wait for this tournment! The 3 coming for arkansas are 907, 908, and not even rated yet and playing advanced you should feel bad if we beat you.



reverse trash talking. i like it...

my inlaws just came up from the branson area. if you guys are coming up 44 give an extra 30-45 min for the construction backups around rolla, mo.

see ya next week.

A little Arkanzanian Disc Psychology? Watch em win/place/show. The unranked dude will win.

Finally finished the last teepad at Sioux yesterday. Workers blanketed each course for final fixes and clean-ups. Its nice having 220+ members this early in the year. The value of the Am players pack is GREATER than the entry fee. An Elite Avenger, 20th Ann Aviar and a Tourney stampped Wizard, what next? Throw in a tourney T-shirt and free beer at the players party Saturday night. I'm getting more convinced that in a world of paste knock-offs I'm polishing the Hope Diamond here at Sioux. I'm ready for her to be evaluated.

Scotty G,

Also the Am player's get a free throw to win a basket and we may do two baskets.

Also, Gary Suarez is a chef and will be cooking us our dinner on Saturday which is also free.

We're pretty much doing everything for the player except help you make the 10 foot putt.

Hope you midwestern golfer who may have hit the Bowling Green Open, KC Wide Open, Peoria and Des Moines will support the newest "A tier" to the midwest.

We are allowing women and juniors to only have on in the division. At this point men will need to have 3 to make a division.

Online registration will be open until 9pm-ish on Wednesday night. After that you'll need to register between 2pm and 8pm at Endicott Park.

registration info can be found here:
http://www.stldiscgolf.com/Tournament.asp?EventID=72

endicott info can be found here:
http://www.stldiscgolf.com/CourseDetail.asp?CourseID=4

thanks.

Forcast is looking up :eek: :)
The courses are in full greenery for the tourny.

http://www.intellicast.com/IcastPage/LoadPage.aspx?loc=usmoct22687&seg=LocalWeather&prodgrp=Forecasts&product=Forecast&prodnav=none

The native grass at Sioux is still pretty short and not OB. You can get a step into your throw from in there. The gravel road between 11,12 and 16 is OB. I told the leaguers last night it wasn't. Ron, mention something tonight at JB please.

JB is looking sweet. Grass is green and cut, trees are greenery, and the course is not simple. Shot -5 in dubs today and even singles at par, 57 par for the tourny or less, is going to be a very good score. If you are still on the bubble, no doubt 4 of the best kept secrets in the core of the midwest.

RonSTL
16479 :D

That was one question I forgot to ask. I heard that most of these courses arent par 54 do they have more than 18 holes or what is the pars for them?

That was one question I forgot to ask. I heard that most of these courses arent par 54 do they have more than 18 holes or what is the pars for them?



here are the hole distances and pars, the distances listed are accurate, but do not give the complete picture because of the hills and woods that add dificulty (or ease) of the holes. (except Creve Coeur which flat, with just enough trees to force you to be accurate)

No pools will play Sioux and Creve on the same day...


jefferson barracks
416 3
380 3
350 3
300 3
420 3
265 3
340 3
540 4
355 3
395 3
370 3
253 3
325 3
293 3
206 3
255 3
615 5
355 3
6433 57


creve coeur:
535 4
569 4
335 3
801 4
195 3
638 4
553 4
630 4
667 4
615 4
590 4
425 4
506 4
895 5
184 3
270 3
360 3
668 4
9436 68


sioux passage
370 3
330 3
625 4
520 4
275 3
480 3
248 3
260 3
460 4
485 4
275 3
315 3
548 3
295 3
666 5
813 4
561 4
615 4
8141 63


endicott
297 3
373 3
339 3
285 3
305 3
405 3
445 4
291 3
243 3
260 3
282 3
291 3
295 3
406 3
295 3
280 3
290 3
300 3
5682 55

Hers a prediction for the event
-22 to -25 will win the pro and -12 will win the adv?
CC and SP will be the easist to score on, but if you dont know the courses scoring birdies will not come easy.

There will be very good competition in both the pro and the advanced field from the locals or recently local ;)

David, Rog wants to play Masters. I'll be ringing greens today after work at Sioux and finishing CC after.

David, Rog wants to play Masters. I'll be ringing greens today after work at Sioux and finishing CC after.



Roger Reyes? If so keep that guy in Open. :D

The courses are the best I have ever seen them. JB is perfect for May. What we are seeing is July Greenery, in May, Amazing.

RonSTL,
16479 :eek:

I am hopefully getting in town around noon tomorrow, anyone up for some golf?

Like I said when I get in at 11 on Friday I'll be up for what ever is on the agenda

Justin, just give me a ring when your in town

I work with Rog, I'll tell him he can't play Masters today. He'll be fuming and I'll be laughing. That looks like Nikko in your avatar.

I will be at JB around 3:30-4pm. I will be more than happy to show you the course and some of the homeboy routes. It will be the last disc I throw all weekend.

Online registration is closed. We still have room but you must register and pay between 2:00pm and 8:00pm at Endicott Friday May 19th.

If you are on your way and are not going to get there by 8:00pm please call us. 314-210-3162

If you are paid and can't make it Friday for check in and get your players pack then you can get it on Saturday Night.

MANIDORY PLAYER'S MEETING AT 8:00AM ENDICOTT FOR ALL DIVISIONS.

For those who don't know.

$1,000 added to the pro purse.

$50 player's packs for ams 3 discs and a shirt.

All players get free dinner and free beer
Free shot to win a basket

Oh, best thing of all 4 newly renovated 18 hole Championship Courses all with 4x12 concrete tee pads. Endicott, Sioux Passage, Creve Coeur and Jefferson Barracks. All grommed and ready for play.

We've got it all except we can't make that 10 footer for you.

Hope you can make it.

I will be at JB around 3:30-4pm. I will be more than happy to show you the course and some of the homeboy routes. It will be the last disc I throw all weekend.



I will probably be stopping at JB and the store first, I played all the courses and more when I came down a month ago :) 11 courses in 3 days! But I am up to play with anyone!

Right on Mark the Kid will be working. See ya in STL.

Just got out of school getting packed and now I'm waiting for 6am to come to get on my plane. I can't wait for this trip and then to play a few more courses. I love all the courses down here because they are tight and wooded but don't get many holes past 400'.

I pick Pat Baumunk to win this tournament.

Good Luck All!

I threw a few with Chad D today at Sioux. He likes the 548 foot acerun out back there. I'll be toiling here and there tomorrow all day. A huge tree broke in 1/2 at Endicott on hole 18 today in front of about 6-7 of us. Landed on the green, its a gimme.

I pick Pat Baumunk to win this tournament.

Good Luck All!


Chase,
Have you played the course in St Louis?
Lots of variety, elevation and technical is an understatement, even at Creve coeur which most consider open, but its placement shots on all of the holes except the 5 par 3's, as there are 12 par 4's between 535 and 735 with lots of huge trees if you fade too much, dont get enough D and even get in the way if your too long on some holes!

You need to be accurate and moderately long off the teee, bad #$*&$! accurate on lay ups that require lots of different hieghts and angles and it helps to know which side of the green is better than the other. You wil need to make most of your putts for birds when you get a chance at them, drop in for par instead of having 30 footers and maintain your composure if you bogie, becasue you will.
Most of this is true at all of the courses especialy at sioux passage as it could wear down a guy thats not in shape or is frazzeled after playing Endicott first.

Nikko has a jammed thumb, before that he was favored pretty heavily to win, hanging with Myself, Chris Boro, Schmidt and justin and even beating them quite often, but his odds are down now with the thumb, there is Ben Calhoun who won in open in Des Moines, but I heard he had a lot of trouble at Endicott today and if he doesnt get to know the courses will be in for a rude awakening.

Devan Owens( under 16 world champ sposnored by Gatewway) shot 55 at CC which is a course record as it pays off to be a lefty and huge off the tee there, I think he parked a 565 foot hole where he actually threw well over 600 out, around and over some huge trees.
The advanced field is a bit tougher than the player ratings are showing.

Pat has been working a lot down here but not playing that much.
Chase I'll take all the action you want on Pat to win at 7 to 1, 5 to 1 to place and 3 to 1 to show;
how much you in for?
You can bet up to $200!

Ps,
Jane doe is back in the lou safe and sound :D

Registration on-line is closed. You'll have to shot up today to register at Endicott 2:00pm to 8:00pm. If you can't make it here by 8:00pm and you have not paid to get in yet, please call 314-210-3162 and let us know coming.

All player's must pay friday night.

If your already paid and need to check in and get your players package and you can't make it friday, you can check in from 7:00am to 7:45am on Saturday at Endicott.

Just checked the weather and winds are looking less than 10mph. Nice...

Hope you can make it.

good luck all - i'll be rolling into da lou sometime after 10pm. Cant wait to find that one perfect throw that keeps me coming back for more!

Right on Ken have a safe trip. The courses definitely await you in full greenery! :D

Hi Dave,

No I havent played the St. Louis courses. Id like to play them this weekend, but cant miss Legion Of Doom in Cedar Rapids. Gotta play when its one of your favorite courses.

Pat will step it up. It shouldnt matter if hes been busy or not, he can turn it up a notch. I told him his main comp would be Nikko, IMO. I didnt fully decide till this week I was going to Tulsa, otherwise I may have skipped Legion for the A-Tier.

Ill stop in St. Louis on my way to the Okie State maybe .

Courses are looking great this weekend, should be a great time! I will try to put up some pictures that i snap tomorrow on the boards at night... keyword try

Hey, anyone have any first round results yet? My son's playing there and I'd love to see how it went this morning.

Yeah, I'd like to know some scores also. How's Craig Law and Adam Jones doing?

I heard from Ben. He had a rough first round, but he's in fourth going into tomorrow. Two strokes out of second and six strokes out of first. Sorry, but I didn't ask about anyone else. He says the guy in first is a really good local player.

Hi , just checking to see if any tournament results are in yet.
I haven't seen anything posted on line.

I have a friend playing there and would like to see how all the rest of the field is doing as well.

Thanks.

results are up.

What happened to Devin Owens? Did he find another dorm party saturday night?

Too bad that final round 50 won't get the 1011 rating either. The rounds before DNF count for ratings but the ones after a 999 do not.

chuck, what would happen if he took par plus 4 for each hole missed ? 135 for round 3 and 50 round 4 ?

Had a fun weekend played a lot of good courses but shot like crap. The one thing I did do shooting well was putting from the 1st round on I got about 2-3 strokes better in putting but thats it lol. Can't wait to play these courses all week some more too.

Also chuck do you think the ratings or going to change much from what they are set at now or what?

chuck, what would happen if he took par plus 4 for each hole missed ?



The Competition group has ruled that "par plus 4" is only allowed for up to one less hole than the number on the course for that round. If you miss the whole round it's a 999 and any round after that.

The online unofficial ratings calculations now match the official per round process. However, if the TD doesn't take the effort to properly enter the course layouts each group played each round, then the ratings may not be close. The ratings group doesn't check unofficial ratings so players have to check with the TD or figure out whether the courses were entered properly by looking at the numbers. Obviously, if everyone played the same layout each round, the numbers should be good.

everone played the same layout, however the order of play was different.

am 1 went:
jefferson barrakcs
creve coeur
sioux passage
endicott

pros and mm1, and gm1 went
endicott
sioux passage
creve coeur
jefferson barracks

the rest went
creve couer
jefferson barracks
endicott
sioux passage

The TD has to enter these layouts into the online setup or the unofficial ratings won't be right.

Chuck,
We will take care of this in the next couple of days.
RonSTL
16479

You may also want to adjust your pars for each layout as an added bonus but it won't affect the ratings.

Mad props to the volunteers of the St Louis Open. they sure showed their heart by pitching in.

Had a great time - the 33foot white circles were an unexpected surprise , especially for all 72 holes.

The food, the gathering, the beer, and no second-hand sm(t)oke this time around was sweet!

i love JB and EP (mix of short, long, technical) whereas the long hard endeavor at SP/CC (long, long, and then long with a FEW birdie opportunities) went south for me.

Congratulations to Nikko for kicking everyone's rump roast. Sure pays off to be a local, eh?

A small suggestion not as necessary as having the water breaks :o, when wondering the distance and location for each hole - i had to constantly look at the program book - had an epihany - thought if you guys could tape (electrical or duct) the distances not used on each sign - that would help reduce the confusion

I vote no final 9.

I am already marking the 3rd wknd of may '07 in my calendar and coming back if nothing cruel and unusual happens!

keep it up, and they will come.

I had the same thought about the distances and being confused, then I was playing a practice round at JB with Kid and asked what position the pin was in, He looked at me and says "the one the bolt is in" After that I noticed that every tee sign at all 4 courses had a hole to the left side of the placements and distances, and a bolt through the hole of the one that coresponds to where the pin is.

Probally the coolest tee signs without maps I have ever seen.

The courses are great, event was top shelf thanks a lot STL.

Chuck,
We can do this also.
We just want to get it right.

Thanks,
RonSTL
16479

Chuck,
All info is in the PDGA spreadsheet for the tourny.
When you receive it, if needed, we can do anything.
RonSTL
16479

Sending the TD report is great but it won't do anything to post correct unofficial ratings online. In fact, sending the report right away will soon eliminate the unofficial ratings so players will have to wait for the official ratings until almost July.

Thanks Chuck for the PM. It has been forwarded.

Temporary ratings should now be correct according to the course layouts Mike Fritz posted above. I went in and put par in as:

Creve Coeur 69
Sioux Passage 63
Endicott 54
Jefferson Barracks 54

You guys can change that if you wish, but it won't affect the ratings.

Chap

We listed the pars as:
CC-68
EP-55
JB-57
SP-63

Justin's -11 at Endi was smokin, as was George's -11 52 at SP. Nikko is on fire to say the least.

All I have heard (so far) is good comments from players. I'm glad we got lots of positive feedback on our courses. Those Tee Signs are the only thing the Parks Dept. pay for. You really can go far when you have dedicated members as we do (220+ this year and counting!). See you next year!

We listed the pars as:
CC-68
EP-55
JB-57
SP-63




Cool...thanks Scott. I'll fix it.

Chap

John,'Did you get to walk any of the courses?