We were talking about this is the other forum and I wanted to have a poll here.

Not anymore. I didn't vote though

Matt I know there's not one anymore but we were talking about how it would be cool to have one and wanted to see how many people would like one and how many people wouldn't

No I was saying I don't want one anymore but when I was stil an AM it was something I though would definantly be a good I dea to make I still do. :D

O yea I get what you mean now. I thought that you meant there shouldn't be one lol. I see where you would say that though since your not an Am anymore. Don't worry I got the Worlds from last year actually watching it right now thats why I thought of the Am Worlds one. But really since I'm going I hope they make one I know i would get one even if I'm not on it.

An interesting idea might be to take advance orders and payment for an Am Worlds video. If no production company wanted to do the video by the time Am Worlds came around, then people would get their money returned at Am Worlds. If 150-200 units were ordered at $20 a pop before the event, that might be enough advance money to interest a video team to do it on the hopes it would eventually sell enough copies down the road. Most professional video teams are going to want the potential for at least $10,000 to even do a basic job.

Another way to do it would be a mostly volunteer operation like the Marshall Street video where several people contribute video segments and the primary person "paid" would be the video editor. The PDGA has paid up to $25,000 to have videos done in each of the past few years and has not yet made that back in sales.

I agree with Chuck that the best idea, if there were to be a video of Am Worlds, would be the volunteer camera persons and a cheap editor (ideally volunteer as well). The big reason that there is a Pro Worlds video each year is because there is a market for it outside of the tournament participants.

Average consumers are more likely to buy a video that features top players like Climo, Schultz, Doss, Feldberg, etc, than to buy it just because it is disc golf on video. Even with the appeal of the top pros, it's no surprise that the expense of producing such a video isn't recouped by sales...there just isn't a huge market for these things yet.

The only years in which there has been video coverage of an Am Worlds were ones in which Pro and Am Worlds were combined (Michigan-2000 and Iowa-2004), and I don't expect that will change in the foreseeable future. In fact, I'd imagine that the only way Ams will make it into a video in the future is as a part of a combined Pro/Am Worlds. The cameras are already there and filming for the Pros, so there's very little added expense to include the Ams in the coverage.

The MSDGC DVDs are another example...the Am coverage in the '04 version was limited to the hot shots/bloopers section, and the '05 version contains exactly 5 holes of Am action (compared to three full rounds for the pro men and women). And that coverage wasn't even part of the original plan for the DVD, or so I was told. It just happened that they had the footage and were alerted by the participants that there was a tight finish, so it got its own 3.5 minute segment on the DVD.

Hate to say it, but am coverage just doesn't have the overall market appeal that the pro coverage does. Yeah, it'd be cool for the participants if Am Worlds got its own video/DVD, but it wouldn't be very worth the effort unless the costs could be held to a minimum, which would more than likely decrease the quality.

JMHO.

--Josh

What I was thinking of was more of a reminder video. That showed some of the best holes and shots from all of the courses, some of the meetings and flymart. People getting together and having fun outside of the course, and coverage of the finals.

More of a keepsake for participants than play by play coverage of the event.

When it's not done under the PDGA format, you can do a better job of covering the flavor of the event. The PDGA is "handcuffed" into treating each division equally which leads to boring and repetitive final 9s that fill the disc. If it's a video "blessed" by the PDGA but not done under their guidance, there's way more flexibility. Of course, you have automatic sales when more different people can be included in the final cut.