Since 1998, what years do you think had the best/worst new disc releases?

1998
X2 Discraft
XL Discraft
MRX Discraft
MRV Discraft
Banshee Innova
Rhyno Innova
Sentinel Millenium
1999
APX Discraft
Sabre Gateway
Blaze Gateway
Eagle Innova
Leopard Innova
Puma Innova
T-Bird Innova
Wolf Innova
JLS Millenium
2000
Stinger Ching
Xtreme Discraft
Xpress Discraft
XS Discraft
Xtra Discraft
Demon Gateway
Firebird Innova
Gator Innova
Valkyrie Innova
2001
Reaper Discraft
Dragon Innova
Archangel Innova
Spider Innova
2002
Puttr Discraft
Talon Discraft
Predator Discraft
Wildcat Discraft
Wasp Discraft
Wizard Gateway
Beast Innova
QJLS Millenium
QMS Millenium
2003
Epic Aerobie
Arrow Aerobie
Challenger Discraft
Crush Discraft
Breeze Discraft
Riptide Discraft
Buzz Discraft
S Demon Gateway
Monster Innova
Starfire Innova
Viking Innova
2004
JuJu Ching
Flash Discraft
Flick Discraft
Tsunami Discraft
Element Gateway
Element X Gateway
Illusion Gateway
Spirit Gateway
Bulldog Innova
Hydra Innova
Sidewinder Innova
Orc Innova
2005
Velocity Ching
Venom Discraft
Drone Discraft
Slipstream GT Discraft
Avenger Discraft
Banger GT Discraft
Spectra Discraft
Tracker Discraft
Quarter-K Discwing
Hybrid Gateway
Roadrunner Innova
Coyote Innova
Wraith Innova
Orion Millenium

(Years are when the disc was PDGA approved. Does not include re-toolings or variation)

The Good
A few of the 1999 Innova discs are still in my bag. 2004 was a really good for high speed drivers.
The Bad
The spider is the only disc from 2001 that I would even consider throwing. 2005 seemed like there was alot releases with hype and not much to back it up. The Venom and Drone are discs that Discraft had released similar but better discs in years previous.

2002, Predator, Wildcat

nuff said...

2003, Buzzz, nouf sed.

I've never thrown a buzzz 475 ft. or rolled one over 500 ft. But I can't argue with the year the best midrange to date was released. :D

I like 2002. Predator, Wasp, and Wizard.

i'm having trouble deciding between 1983 and 1984, but i am leaning to 1984 because that brought us the Aviar

i'm having trouble deciding between 1983 and 1984, but i am leaning to 1984 because that brought us the Aviar



Can't really go wrong with any of those years. I had thrown a Proto Eagle in December 1982 , I think.......................Then some Really Awesome Aero's came out in 1983.

Still .................In my opinion .......................the Aviar was the best in 1984 !!!!!!! Innova had made different types of Aviars through out the years. I still have a few of the Original ones..........tall rim , no bead !!!! :eek:

The Aviar is still made to this day..........................even copied by Whamo !!!!! :eek:

DGA , Discraft , Destiny Disc's , Lightning , Whamo , Ching ,and a few others............TRY to make a AVIAR type of disc !!!!! :D

2004! Spirit is the sickest driver anywhere, the element is the sickest midrange ever, as far as discs go those two make up 50% of my bag basically so 2004

wasp, wizard, predator. add an orc, leopard, and beat roc thats all I need

2001 was a good year. Made some good money on those CE discs.

'78 was good when the Midnight Flyers in golf weights came out.

2002, Predator, Wildcat

nuff said...



Heard that noise. I love me some preds and talons.

If you include the CE plastic in the existing molds, 2001 was a great year. I wonder if that is why 2001 & 2002 were low new mold production years for Innova.

What 2005 Discraft molds beside the Avenger are really going to be in the bag a few years from now? (maybe the Tracker???) It just seems like they threw a bunch of new molds against the wall to see what stuck. I just don't see how the 2005 Discraft discs push the envelope the same way the Predator, Buzz, Crush and Flick did. I likwise wasn't real impressed with the Roadrunner.

I had to go with the slipstream myself. I've never had such an easy time controlling a disc that understable.

Can't believe some of you true plastic hounds haven't come up with the most obvious answer of all................. next year! :cool:

2002, Predator, Wildcat

nuff said...



Yep with the wasp in there as well, hands down winner.

yeah fishigga' that was a good year

The end of 1982. I still was traveling the USA with a Original Puppy and Midnight Flyer Whamo discs. 1983 !!!!!!!

THE EAGLE HAS LANDED !!!!!!!!!! First Wedge Golf Disc !!!!!!!

FIRST !!!!!!!!!!! Everything from Everyone else followed or Copied !!!!!! FACT !!!!!!! :D

Maybe we should judge what the best year was by looking into the bag of the winner of this year's USDGC :eek:
or maybe see what common disc Climo and Juliana throw? (16 World Championships between them)

Aviar! :D

The end of 1982. I still was traveling the USA with a Original Puppy and Midnight Flyer Whamo discs. 1983 !!!!!!!

THE EAGLE HAS LANDED !!!!!!!!!! First Wedge Golf Disc !!!!!!!

FIRST !!!!!!!!!!! Everything from Everyone else followed or Copied !!!!!! FACT !!!!!!! :D



Your joking right? a Speed Demon is a copy of the eagle/arrow?

Wouldnt an arrow be closer to a copy of the super puppy, then a speed demon would be to an arrow?

In case you guys arent aware of it there were 3 patents issued for BEVeled adged discs in 1979.
In onnovas first patent applictaion the term beveled edge was not allowed.
The reapplication was more along the lines of gyroscopic effect!

Now we are geeting closer to facts :D

The end of 1982. I still was traveling the USA with a Original Puppy and Midnight Flyer Whamo discs. 1983 !!!!!!!

THE EAGLE HAS LANDED !!!!!!!!!! First Wedge Golf Disc !!!!!!!

FIRST !!!!!!!!!!! Everything from Everyone else followed or Copied !!!!!! FACT !!!!!!! :D



Your joking right? a Speed Demon is a copy of the eagle/arrow?

Wouldnt an arrow be closer to a copy of the super puppy, then a speed demon would be to an arrow?

In case you guys arent aware of it there were 3 patents issued for BEVeled adged discs in 1979.
In onnovas first patent applictaion the term beveled edge was not allowed.
The reapplication was more along the lines of gyroscopic effect!

Now we are geeting closer to facts :D

Maybe we should judge what the best year was by looking into the bag of the winner of this year's USDGC :eek:
or maybe see what common disc Climo and Juliana throw? (16 World Championships between them)

Aviar! :D



I must say, the Aviar has inspired what seems to be a plethora of very nice discs of somewhat similar design.

I have yet to try an "aviar clone" that I did NOT prefer to the actual aviar, though. My favorite is the Upshot 2 Prostyle. I fully recognize the Aviar as an excellent disc for a lot of people, but the rim depth is not comfortable in my hand.

Do you have any glow Aviars that float ?

After enjoying enormous success with the XL driver in the preceeding years, I thought 2000 was a bad year for Discraft. In my opinion, the Xtreme, Xpress, XS, and Xtra discs were not a step forward in disc evolution. However, the year 2000 is easily noteworthy for the appearance of the Innova Valkyrie. The impact and revolution this disc had on many disc golfer's games cannot be understated; it easily added 40-80 feet to some people's drives.

On the other hand, Innova would then follow that up with a disappointing year in 2001. The much anticipated Archangel was supposed to be an upgrade on the Valkyrie but wasn't at all, and the Spider and Dragon are forgettable discs. 2001 was easily the worst year for disc releases.

Both companies would rebound in 2002 and it easily makes the best year for disc releases, imo. The Talon, Predator,
Wildcat, and Wasp are all superior discs released by Discraft that year. Innova's Beast was an instant "next generation" disc for most disc golfers, and would remain so until surpassed in the following years by the Starfire, Orc and Wraith, in turn.

The best year was 1948 because the release of the plastic Al Capp Flyin' Saucer was such an improvement on the steel pie tin.

Nice !!!!! I still have a original set of Lil Abners. Red , Blue and Yellow...........with the cartoon in the package. I only have two pie tins.. One with a small F in the middle and the other with raised letters Frisbie Pies.