Question:

From your experience playing tournaments or mini tournaments what division do you think displays the overall worst attitude on the course???

I think it's the Advanced Men division...In MA1 most players have great skills in certain areas but lack skill in other areas. For instance; in MA1 some guys can throw a mile just like some Open players do, but then they have trouble putting. Nothing is more frustrating than throwing a great shot and missing a relatively easy putt.

And yes, I'm very bored at work today :D

Good one Conners! I voted for the Adv Women to have the worst attitudes. Those chicks are ruthless. :o:D

Never would have thought that about the advanced women division :o:o

Thanks Nelle, I figure the results should be interesting. :cool:

In my personal experience , I have seen more whinney pro's than any other div. I think the masters guys are the coolest I have been around.They seem to have the right perspective on the game!!Masters in 5 years!!!! ;) :D:p

I think it depends on where you are. Around here, the Women (of all divisions) are pretty laid back.

I don't think we have a "primadonna" division, just individuals. ;)

It was a joke with a little bit of truth to it. I think the girls who played advanced when I did would agree. WE were all terrible. :D

A lot of people might remember this; at Iowa Worlds in 04 the advanced masters division were at each others throats on the lead card. It got so bad that the PDGA had to put a rules official on the lead card to follow them around. I'm pretty sure these guys almost got in a fight during the round also.

Does anybody else remember this?

The worst attitudes I have seen are on the no-chance-at-cashing MPO cards.

I resent that Tony. :cool:

The worst attitudes I have seen are on the no-chance-at-cashing MPO cards.

From experience Jrs are the worst and so far MPO is the best. :D

A lot of people might remember this; at Iowa Worlds in 04 the advanced masters division were at each others throats on the lead card. It got so bad that the PDGA had to put a rules official on the lead card to follow them around. I'm pretty sure these guys almost got in a fight during the round also.

Does anybody else remember this?



That still applies to MA1, If I remember correctly, most of the players on the MM1 lead card are MA1 players the rest of the year.

Saulter played MA1 and MPO in 2003.
Ehlart did play all MM1 in 2003.
Hunt played all MA1 in 2003 except for MM1 in 1 event.
Kozlowski played all MA1 in 2003.

That's the ones that made the final 9, not sure who was on the lead card when there was trouble.

A lot of people might remember this; at Iowa Worlds in 04 the advanced masters division were at each others throats on the lead card. It got so bad that the PDGA had to put a rules official on the lead card to follow them around. I'm pretty sure these guys almost got in a fight during the round also.

Does anybody else remember this?



I heard a similar story about the MPM's!! :p

If it's the final round, just a couple more holes to play, I'm sitting firmly in DFL, and you walk up to the tee box and call me a liar --- well, apparently my temper can go from 0 - to - Hostile in about .5 seconds. (Conroe) :o

Or...pick up a disc that's not your's and when the rightful owner asks you if you have his discs, lie about it and start peeling your shirt off like your itching for a fight (Pease Park).

**** --- I might need to retake those court-mandated anger managment classes again...

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I've seen bad tempers at all level of play in our sport, though. But to be honest, I think it's a testmant to our sport and the inherent sportsmanship of the majority of our players that incidents of rage and outrageous temper outbursts are so rare.

For every #$*&$!, I've probably played with a 1000 happy clowns (but make no mistake about it...they were all clowns ;) )

EDITED to ask --- Why is A_ngry C_lown a censored word? I can understand curse words. But neither one of those words (or even both words in conjunction) are bad or improper words.

I agree with Robbie....we're all clowns. :)

BTW, I define "worst" as everything from trigger-happy angry to disgruntled plodding along. It's disc golf, people. It could be much worse, you could be at work!

I have seen this guy , take a aluminum baseball bat and beat the living daylights out of this #$*&$! , for swearing at his wife for mistakenly picking up the wrong disc !!!!! :eek:

My temper is pretty bad. I don't know, I've seen some silly stuff, from individuals in each division.

My scenario is interesting. I don't get mad on the course and I don't believe in bad luck. I just make excuses when I make a bad shot to make myself feel better which ppl interept for being angry or complaining. It's funny, when I get a cut through or a spit, I don't say much, but when I a hit a tree, its bullchit. :D

The worst attitudes I have seen are on the no-chance-at-cashing MPO cards.



I voted for Open Men. I dont really know if they are any worse than Am Men, but they are under a bigger microscope.

Open Women or Am Masters would be my choice for best, though for the last year I havent played on a bad Am card. Some good cards with questionable players, is different.

Well...anybody who has ever had to play with the R-Factor on their card will tell you that the Adv. Men will have the worst temper... I think Chase can back me on this one.

Looking forward to the Rumble in April too.

The R-facter is the chit :D

the overall experience in NC is that the DFL MPO card has the best attitude..Thats where the fun is...
As far as temper tantrums are concerned, I think its hilarious....In fact, it brings the rest of the group closer....Helps me re-set and get my head out for a minute....Direct your tantrum at me or someone else in the group and thats different(also very rare).

My scenario is interesting. I don't get mad on the course and I don't believe in bad luck. I just make excuses when I make a bad shot to make myself feel better which ppl interept for being angry or complaining. It's funny, when I get a cut through or a spit, I don't say much, but when I a hit a tree, its bullchit. :D



Yeah right..I guess monthlies don't apply in this :cool:...I remember a very angry Roberto at one event..it was quite funny watching you blowup like a cheap plastic love doll...the cool thing was you were over it in like 5 holes but it was fun while it lasted..but for the most part you do keep your attitude about the same...

Well...anybody who has ever had to play with the R-Factor on their card will tell you that the Adv. Men will have the worst temper... I think Chase can back me on this one.

Looking forward to the Rumble in April too.




Ive played alot of rounds with Ron the last year or so. If you can handle the same story 5 times or tune out how hes played nearly every course in America and how he threw EACH individule hole, the round goes fast. If you cant or let him get into you, your done.

Personally, alot of players ( including myself ) have used the Factor as an excuse. There is merit in it, as he can compound a bad round, but Ive played with worse.

The only thing more painful than a round with the R-Factor is watching him hop in that POS 924 he drives after the round.

i think most in NC have seen a version of this, but i guess we're just mis-interpreting it

I like it when people blow up. I find alot of humor in it, although I do try to discourage it by saying things like:

"Dude. That tree jumped right in front of your disc."

" I thought that was in for sure. Are these baskets regulation?"

"Oh man. I thought for sure it would skip off the water."

" Im sure it didnt hurt that spectator...He shouldnt be watching us anyway."

At 2004 Worlds there were advanced masters on every card acting like they were hyped up on steroids or meth! Almost every round someone in my group made an issue about something, and when I would say, "Well, we can ask the TD at the end of the round," that made me the rules N-A-Z-I.

Way too many of those guys were acting like it was the championship of the world, or something! :D

I don't recall any of those in the round I played with you....

Are you calling him a liar, Gary? ;)


FIGHT>>>>

At 2004 Worlds there were advanced masters on every card acting like they were hyped up on steroids or meth! <font color="red">Almost every round </font>someone in my group made an issue about something, and when I would say, "Well, we can ask the TD at the end of the round," that made me the rules N-A-Z-I.

Way too many of those guys were acting like it was the championship of the world, or something! :D



Stop trying to start trouble, Gary. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Well, he did say "almost every round", not "every round" so I guess I'm just reminding him of one of the few rounds that went off without any dramatics (other than how poorly I played).

The R-facter is the chit :D



Is the Ron you speak of from Des Moines?? If so, he most definetly is a FACTOR. I played a round with him at 04 Worlds, WOW what a long grueling round that was.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4020#Advanced

He was so annoying at this tourney. Had to play with him the last round and well...you can see what happened. :D

I'm going to use this statement about a certain player , when I get a chance !!!!! :D

"it was quite funny watching you blowup like a cheap plastic love doll..." :eek:

Well, he did say "almost every round", not "every round" so I guess I'm just reminding him of one of the few rounds that went off without any dramatics (other than how poorly I played).

I remember that round. I think you had a calming influence on everyone.

depression can do that :cool:

I like it when people blow up. I find alot of humor in it, although I do try to discourage it by saying things like:

"Dude. That tree jumped right in front of your disc."

" I thought that was in for sure. Are these baskets regulation?"

"Oh man. I thought for sure it would skip off the water."

" Im sure it didnt hurt that spectator...He shouldnt be watching us anyway."



Sometimes when I�m having a bad round, that kind of positive stuff makes me in a worse mood�

I played with this guy last weekend, and I wanted to put duct tape over his mouth. Every time someone would throw into the woods, he would say � I just knew that was going to turn out of there� Then after they got out � That�s all you could have done with that shot�. I just wanted to ask him how the hell he knew that that�s all I could have done with that shot�

He was also one of those guys that had to Put in his .02 about every **** PDGA rule through the whole round. ..

I guess I need to just calm down, but guys like that can get me out of my game so easy. I get so frustrated with the constant mouthing.

I used to get very angry with myself for making bad shots, then one day during a practice round a particular hole taught me a lesson. I tried to throw a safe up the middle shot, it skipped left into shule, tossed an out shot back to the fairway, tried again to advance up the fairway with another up the middle midrange shot again and skipped left into the shule, after taking a out shot to get back onto the fairway, the next shot needed to turn to the right, a gentle turnover midrange was all that was needed. I threw my most flippy Buzzz, and for some reason it did not turn and went straight into the shule again. I got so ticked off that I kicked my bag (which at the time had 25 discs in it). Well, don't kick a loaded tour bag. I split my big toe nail in two.

That reminds me never to lose my temper on the golf course.

But I voted for MA2 players. While many MA1 and MPO players can be primadonnas, and I have played with a few, the MA2 players get more mad at themselves then any group I have seen. They are expecting to make great 400ft drives and can 30ft putts all the time. But if they were doing that, then they would not be playing in MA2. It is funny to see a person react when their expectations exceed their skills.

The R-facter is the chit :D



Is the Ron you speak of from Des Moines?? If so, he most definetly is a FACTOR. I played a round with him at 04 Worlds, WOW what a long grueling round that was.





"Everyone loves Ronald."


BTW, the quotes I put up there werent an attempt to make someones round go easier, all the time. I get tired of playing AMs with complainers and cry babys. If you cant take the heat, stay outta my kitchen. I dont try to influence the card Im on by being a child, unless someone else starts first. I played bad almost exclusively last season, but I dont think alot of people conplained that they had to deal with me during the round. Im pretty easygoing, something alot of people on here dont realize until they meet me in person. Like with Ron. The best thing is to finish his sentences. This drives nearly every non-annoying person in the world crazy, and can also work with the annoying as well.
Example:
"Have you ever played at- "Yes. I have. The food was excellent."

"Did you see the way- " No. I was staring out into nothingness."

Its effective.

That's awesome.

I never lose my temper :D

I like it when people blow up. I find alot of humor in it, although I do try to discourage it by saying things like:

"Dude. That tree jumped right in front of your disc."

" I thought that was in for sure. Are these baskets regulation?"

"Oh man. I thought for sure it would skip off the water."

" Im sure it didnt hurt that spectator...He shouldnt be watching us anyway."



Sometimes when I�m having a bad round, that kind of positive stuff makes me in a worse mood�

I played with this guy last weekend, and I wanted to put duct tape over his mouth. Every time someone would throw into the woods, he would say � I just knew that was going to turn out of there� Then after they got out � That�s all you could have done with that shot�. I just wanted to ask him how the hell he knew that that�s all I could have done with that shot�

He was also one of those guys that had to Put in his .02 about every **** PDGA rule through the whole round. ..

I guess I need to just calm down, but guys like that can get me out of my game so easy. I get so frustrated with the constant mouthing.



What you gotta do is approach him right off the bat and tell him what's up.

Does everyone know the Factor?

Hey, Ron is a human being like everyone else posting here. Hes really a great guy. Yeah, he does talk a lot. Yeah, maybe hes annoying. But that is the worst quality you can find about him. Hes not hateful, spiteful, mean, antagonizing, or an ******* like many of the people ive played with. He doesnt even play Open so what is everyone ******** about?

This is why we need more caddies in disc golf, someone to complain to about the shot, console you, someone you can talk to if the other player is having a bad round... the list continues

Looks like the overrall consensus is that Advanced men have the worst attitude on the course.....IMAGINE THAT!!!!! :cool:

Just seen this lady , ram her husbands truck in the parking lot for not leaving the course on time !!!!!! :eek:

I guess that would put a kibosh on your money round !!!! :p

I'll consider myself in the Advanced Men category for this, but I've noticed that as my skills have improved, I'm having frustration issues when things aren't 'clicking' for me. Today was particularly bad as I'm battling with an elbow injury and consistancy is NOT there. I may have proclaimed some 4 letter words on the course that are neither 'Disc' nor 'golf'. The area that was frustrating me most was the little 150 foot upshots that were all falling WAY short. Normally I could put it within about 40 feet pretty much every time, but today it was like 80-100 feet away(yeah, that means I was throwing discs either way left/right, not that short/long). I may have to take a couple weeks off from looking at 'those' websites and not disc to get ready for the lumberjack open.

I'm having frustration issues when things aren't 'clicking' for me. Today was particularly bad as I'm battling with an elbow injury and consistancy is NOT there.......... I may have to take a couple weeks off ...........to get ready for the lumberjack open.



Sometimes this is the best solution. It gives you time to rethink your strategies and plan them through in your head, reinvision your form and power, nurse injured body parts back to health, and best of all clear your head of bad rounds and shots.

I had to take two weeks off because I was starting to get tendonitist in my right elbow. It was agonizing, after 10 days I allowed myself 15 minutes of putting practice a day, and after the two weeks was up I worked back into full time practice. Also, I recommend Glucloseamine Chondroitin with MSN to help with your joints. I have been taking it since the tendonitist a year ago and have yet to have any problems.

Good luck.

I usually like taking my 12 guage and pumping a few dozen rounds at my discraft chainstar basket. :mad: Man...................you should see how good a shot Cheney is !!!!! :eek:

Miss nothing !!!! :eek:






I'm kidding.....................I'll probably hear negative feedback on this. :D