morgan
Jan 20 2006, 09:09 AM
By MICHAEL LIEDTKE, AP Business Writer Thu Jan 19, 3:52 PM ET

SAN FRANCISCO - Wham-O Inc., the maker of vintage toys like the Frisbee, Slip'N Slide and Hula Hoop, has been sold to a Hong Kong distributor that's trying to build a one-stop shop for outdoor fun.

Financial terms weren't disclosed, but Cornerstone Overseas Investment Limited is paying less than the $80 million price that Wham-O's previous owners, the Charterhouse Group, sought when it put the toy maker on the sales block in 2004, said James Rybakoff, an investment banker representing Cornerstone.

The deal closed last week, but wasn't announced until Thursday.

Charterhouse paid $20 million to acquire Emeryville, Calif.-based Wham-O in 1997 and hired new management to revive a venerable toy line that had been neglected during the three years the company was owned by industry giant Mattel Inc.

The turnaround boosted Wham-O's annual sales from $18 million eight years ago to an estimated $80 million in 2005, but Cornerstone believes there's room for plenty more growth.

"We are going to give (Wham-O) the octane that it has never had," said Rybakoff, who represented Cornerstone in the negotiations. "Wham-O is a fantastic international name, but it hasn't really been sold overseas a lot."

Cornerstone plans to change that by expanding into new markets like Brazil and South Africa.

As part of the international expansion, Cornerstone is currently negotiating to buy two other toy makers specializing in outdoor recreation, Rybakoff said. He declined to identify the acquisition candidates.

The new owners own or control five Chinese factories with a total of 20,000 to 25,000 workers, providing ample manpower to increase production of Wham-O's toys, which also include Superball, Boogie Board, Hacky Sack, Silly String and Water Wiggle.

"Our brands aren't considered hot because they are so old, but they are still cool," said Mojde Esfandiari, Wham-O's president. She hopes to double Wham-O's sales during the next two to three years under Cornerstone's ownership.

This marks the fourth change in Wham-O's ownership since Rich Knerr and Spud Melin founded the company in 1948. Wham-O became ingrained in pop culture a few years later when it bought the rights to the Pipco Flying Saucer, which was later named the Pluto Platter before finally landing on the Frisbee brand in 1958.

Although Esfandiari will remain Wham-O's president, Cornerstone plans to bring in a new chief executive within the next six months, Rybakoff said. Most of Wham-O's roughly 300 workers are expected to be retained.

Cornerstone is run by Jeff Hsieh, who recently ended a 4 1/4-year partnership with Marvel Entertainment Inc. that required him to pay a minimum of $20 million for the licensing rights to toys based on comic-book heroes like Spiderman, the Fantastic Four and Captain America.

Marvel canceled its contract with Hsieh's Toy Biz Worldwide a year before its scheduled December 2006 expiration to clear the way for a new $205 million licensing deal with Hasbro Inc.

circle_2
Jan 20 2006, 12:15 PM
Maybe premium quality discs for under $10 is around the not-too-distant corner....

CraigS
Jan 20 2006, 12:32 PM
Maybe premium quality discs for under $10 is around the not-too-distant corner....



Don't bet on it. Big companies look for cheap materials to sell at high prices, which equals higher profits. I'll stay with the dedicated disc manufacturers.

circle_2
Jan 20 2006, 12:44 PM
I agree...and/but a little more competition should have an effect.

20460chase
Jan 20 2006, 12:52 PM
Maybe premium quality discs for under $10 is around the not-too-distant corner....



Don't bet on it. Big companies look for cheap materials to sell at high prices, which equals higher profits. I'll stay with the dedicated disc manufacturers.





What about those sweet touchlines that were made in Mexico? :D

flynvegas
Jan 20 2006, 01:21 PM
Would be great if they got involved like they were with the Rose Bowl tournaments and the $50000 tournament at HB.

morgan
Jan 20 2006, 05:22 PM
With the new Chinese frisbies you have to use chop sticks to throw them

quickdisc
Jan 20 2006, 05:25 PM
With the new Chinese frisbies you have to use chop sticks to throw them



Chinese Frisbees ? What are they like ...............disposable after a couple of throws ? :eek: :D

morgan
Jan 20 2006, 10:49 PM
Yeah. I bought one that came with a fortune cookie that said, "Try jump putt."

I wonder if anybody actually puts the duck sauce on their discs when they play "fisbee goff."

jebbeer
Jan 20 2006, 11:37 PM
Aren't those discs you can buy at walmart made in China. I'm not sure, but if they are sold at walmart then they're probably not made here.

drdisc
Jan 21 2006, 12:18 AM
Really bad knock off discs have been made in china for years. Maybe they will bring back the 44 mold.

Parkntwoputt
Jan 21 2006, 01:59 AM
Really bad knock off discs have been made in china for years. Maybe they will bring back the 44 mold.



I know a man who swears by the 44.

Of course he carries 5 Flashes, a Wraith, a 44, and an Omega SS.

But he can put that 44 on a line. I think he lost it and found it it Mexico.

russell
Jan 21 2006, 09:35 AM
the new ching plastic is chinese also.

greenbeard
Jan 21 2006, 01:58 PM
If it's going to be chinese, wouldn't it be pronounced 'Flisbee'?







-This tasteless joke brought to you by GB inc.

morgan
Jan 21 2006, 06:49 PM
Look at the woman on your left.

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She's the Chinese woman who owns the company that leveraged the buyout of Wham-O. When this pic was taken she was on the phone talking to her backers about sealing the deal. She got the idea a few minutes before the photo was taken, after I threw a Frisbee to her, to get her to stand up. I threw the disc high above her head, so she would have to jump up to catch it. I got the photo, and it's very nice, but unfortunately Rhett would not let me use it as my avatar.

So she and I negotiated a deal where she and her backers would get the name "Frisbee" from Wham-O, but I could keep the name as my pseud on this message board.

I won't include what the negotiations included, or the photos I took of those "meetings." Let's just say, they did not take place in the board room, but under the board walk.

Jan 21 2006, 10:57 PM
so now you legally have to change your name to Fisbee?

gdstour
Jan 21 2006, 11:14 PM
So your saying all this is BS?

bruce_brakel
Jan 22 2006, 12:18 AM
The quoted news article is real. http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060120/BUSINESS/601200362/1003/BUSINESS Anything in the news article is as real as mainstream news gets. The rest, Fisbee, the naked chick, is BS.

morgan
Jan 22 2006, 12:30 AM
The only time I speak the truth is when I quote somebody else.

ChrisWoj
Jan 27 2006, 09:20 PM
Tell me I'm not the only guy here that saw the Colbert Report "Word" last night... the word which was... WHAM-O.

And was all about this.

It was hilarious.

circle_2
Jan 28 2006, 11:40 AM
You sir, are NOT the only one...!

Furthur
Jan 28 2006, 12:41 PM
I was going to go to comedy central and watch it. Do you remember what the word was? Wham-O isn't listed.

circle_2
Jan 28 2006, 12:47 PM
Thought it was Wham-O... It did air during this last week...Wednesday or Thursday?

Furthur
Jan 28 2006, 03:57 PM
Maybe it just hasn't made it into the archive yet. I'll be on the lookout though.

ChrisWoj
Jan 29 2006, 07:45 PM
The WORD was definitely WHAM-O :)

That episode was just hilarious. But then again... what episode of the Report isn't? :D

circle_2
Jan 30 2006, 11:48 AM
The WORD was definitely WHAM-O :)

That episode was just hilarious. But then again... what episode of the Report isn't? :D


I'm consistently amazed at how much energy Steven has to give to keep his 'Repor(t)' at such a high level...EVERY night!!?!! Kudos!!

quickdisc
Jan 30 2006, 10:33 PM
The WORD was definitely WHAM-O :)

That episode was just hilarious. But then again... what episode of the Report isn't? :D


I'm consistently amazed at how much energy Steven has to give to keep his 'Repor(t)' at such a high level...EVERY night!!?!! Kudos!!



Will these , so called " Chinese" , disc's be made in Bejing ?

morgan
Jan 31 2006, 03:39 AM
why do you ask?

quickdisc
Feb 01 2006, 08:31 PM
Ching is taken !!! :D