geo
Jan 17 2006, 09:44 PM
Can an Am play an XC doubles tourney and cash but still keep his Am status? XC means experimantal so you don't get any points for the tourney so why shouldn't the Am be able to accept the cash. If not, can his partner take half the winnings and the Am still decline his half? Disc On!!!

bruce_brakel
Jan 17 2006, 10:11 PM
These are answers from a PDGA tournament official who has run several PDGA sanctioned doubles tournaments but who does not officially represent the PDGA in any way on this message board:

I'm absolutely certain if he takes the cash he loses his am status. I'm pretty certain his pro partner does not get the am's other half. It has to be paid down. It came up at 2004 Worlds.

X means it is doubles, match play, team play or some other form of competition permitted by the competition director.

You do get PDGA points for sanctioned A-D tier doubles. You do not get ratings.

gnduke
Jan 18 2006, 02:08 AM
I would have to agree that points can be awarded for X-Tier events. National doubles as an A-Tier was traditionally one of the largest points tournaments in the country.

X-Tiers can also generate ratings if the exception does not effect play enough as to make ratings invalid.

geo
Jan 20 2006, 01:07 AM
Thanx for the info. I thought once you accept cash in any tourney your am days are over. The points are wierd though. I didn't get any points for the world dubs but did get points for the Berkeley Best Pairs. Don't know why.

Jan 20 2006, 01:09 AM
because no points are awarded at PDGA Majors.

AviarX
Jan 20 2006, 01:17 AM
why is that? :confused:

gnduke
Jan 20 2006, 02:12 AM
Don't know, but that's the way it is.

keithjohnson
Jan 20 2006, 10:20 AM
Don't know, but that's the way it is.



probably because most majors are EXclusive instead of INclusive...
meaning people can rack up a whole lot of points...
because of large fields in THEIR division
case in point world games in san jose in 04...
a masters player in az played in it and got more points from it than people playing 15-20 tournaments


of course it also could be i don't know what i'm talking about :D

bruce_brakel
Jan 20 2006, 10:51 AM
This is the way it was explained to me a long tiome ago: points matter only for Worlds invitations [and the obelisk, but that's irrelevant.] If you got points for Worlds, since it has so many competitors, the people who would get invited to Worlds would be mainly the people who went last year. The people we want to invite to Worlds are the people who supported the PDGA by playing a lot of tournaments to get a lot of points. So giving points for Worlds would be counterproductive to the purpose for having a point system.

gnduke
Jan 20 2006, 01:11 PM
What about the other Majors that aren't worlds.

And for points (am) go to Bowling Green.

Parkntwoputt
Jan 21 2006, 01:31 AM
What about the other Majors that aren't worlds.

And for points (am) go to Bowling Green.



No one earns points at any Majors.

Am Worlds
Am Worlds Doubles
Pro Worlds
Pro Worlds Doubles
USADGC
USDGC
WUSDGC
Mid Nationals

Did I miss any?

Bowling Green is a great place to earn points, I almost earned two worlds invites at that event last year.

gnduke
Jan 21 2006, 01:34 AM
I know which events are majors, My point was that they don't rely on points or invitations. Why shouldn't points be awarded there too ?

Parkntwoputt
Jan 21 2006, 01:40 AM
Ok I miss read your statement.

But both USDGC, and USADGC require invitations, also Mid Nationals. And eventually once the Womens Nationals, they will require invites soon. Even though these events do not weight points as a factor for invitation, they are very large events were numerous points could be awarded. Since there are awards for points, I imagine the PDGA is keeping it fair and not granting points to players in exclusive events since not all players who can earn points have the chance to enter the events.

I think they do it just to keep the points race fair.

gnduke
Jan 21 2006, 01:43 AM
You take all the fun out of this.

ck34
Jan 21 2006, 09:01 AM
No invites this year for Mid-Nats. It's open to all current members with ratings under 975 based on at least 8 rounds by this June.

You missed US Masters on the list plus the European and Japan Opens.