who's going?

I decided that the Memorial was going to cost too much for what I was getting out of it, so...
I'm going to FL for a week. This includes the Am leg of the CCC.
I hope to hang with all the DGr's that I did last year, and have just as good a time.

good choice, much better course!

Without a doubt. This'll be my third year. Stayin' with SunKing too.
Are there still high noon doubles @ Maximo on Wed.? I think it was an old site that I found it on, but I'd love to make them.

Does anyone know if the am leg of the tourney is going to be giving out prizes (ie. tool boxes, stereos, carts) like last year or are vouchers for discs going to be given out? The prizes sucked, i would much rather get plastic..

I'd bet on the prizes.

That's why, if I go, I am going for the CASH. Pro event or bust.

sounds like left over christmas presents..though it might be better than getting old tournament stamped disc from other tournaments in florida for prizes.

Here's concrete proof that I'm getting old:
I got a nose-hair trimmer for X-mas and was happy about it ;)

Hey Tafe,
I'll be there for the Pro leg again....you sticking around?
Bart
PS Check the web site for a pic of you at Homie's.....
www.channelzdj.com (http://www.channelzdj.com)

I was thinking about it, especially with Pastore and Cummings coming down as well, but...
This recent college grad (waiting for the paper in the mail) just doesn't have the money to spend 3 weeks down there.
Good luck to you. I might leave a sign on course somewhere! ;)
I couldn't find the Homie pic's last time, I'll try again. Thanks for the pic you put on the IN board, I miss that guy.

Does anyone know if the am leg of the tourney is going to be giving out prizes (ie. tool boxes, stereos, carts) like last year or are vouchers for discs going to be given out? The prizes sucked, i would much rather get plastic..



Are you going to sand bag again?

Does anyone know how many people get to play the final 9 in the open leg?

Head are you coming?

Hoping to. You live near there?

You going to get beat again?

A reminder to travelling pro's:
We've got a new B-tier event at the Spirit of the Suwannee Music Park in Live Oak, FL (I-10 X I-75) the next weekend after the Canyon Pros.

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=TournamentInfo&Number=476045&fpart=&PHPSESSID=

Its funny that when you arrive at a course 2:30 a.m the morning of the tourney and sleep in your car and then get up and play never seeing any of the holes until the first round and then win the intermediate division you get called a bagger. I could see if you run away with the division and win by 10 but when you win by 1 or 2 thats a joke..

I just get tired of people that dont know what they are talking about putting there two cents in...South Carolina is Coming to the Canyon!!

Clizzark, didn't you used to be a sponsored intermediate through SunKing??? Why haven't you stepped up in NC and finished high at a tournament? Did you r sponsorship get revoked for performance?

Kilgus.....don't play intermediate ever again unless it is a skins comp where you can earn large denominations of cash! Your too good, and not a lowly bagger trying to intimidate intermediates like some others I've seen in that division for years.

Craig no more intermediate tournaments for me....that was just a one time thing and anybody who has seen the course could back me up and see why I would do it, any way all the bull crap aside lets go to the Canyon have fun and play disc golf, Hope to see you at course soon Craig...hope your injury is better, peace

HEE HEE!!! :D:p :D
I'll be easy to recognize down there in Tampa.
I'll probably be the only person in the city limits wearing a REDSKINS hat!

Now you can wear it proudly though! :D

You going to get beat again?



yes I am going to get beat again, im playing the pro leg.

But i wont be cheating like you :eek:

maybe you will win another boom box!

Its funny that when you arrive at a course 2:30 a.m the morning of the tourney and sleep in your car and then get up and play never seeing any of the holes until the first round and then win the intermediate division you get called a bagger. I could see if you run away with the division and win by 10 but when you win by 1 or 2 thats a joke..

I just get tired of people that dont know what they are talking about putting there two cents in...South Carolina is Coming to the Canyon!!



You played under your rating!!!

thats not funny its called cheating! thats why Im calling you a bagger.

I had never seen the course either. I slept on the ground in a tent! You played under your rating! face the flag thats called bagging!

yes I have moved up, yes i am still on Team Sun King.I didnt get sponsored until after cross canyon.
The advanced field in NorthCarolina is different from any other state. I have done well for my first year in considering i moved up mid year. I started the year not cashing, now i am placing top ten consistantly. North carolina's advance division in the Raliegh area is a hard division to be in. There are tons of good advance players, my advanced performance has been just fine and getting better and better.

As far as DNA he never appologized for breaking the rules. He cheated the whole int field not just me.

good times (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Rules&Number=349164&page=6&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

Clizark, I didnt know that my rating was that high back then, and I am not proud in playing the intermediate division, so now if its okay with you can you just drop it and accept the apology. I apologize to everyone. If it makes you feel anybetter the boom box rocks :D See yall at the Canyon

I guess the Charlotte open doesn't count. :o


Where are all of the other consistent top ten's????

Getting beat up in Raleigh has made you bitter. When DNA beat me I practiced until it never happend again. I thought that player's ratings were suggestions, untill cash was involved?

I used to be bitter when Jonas bagged, but now I get to bag by myself......for now..............but not at the MSDGC!!!!

The only ratings that count are the ones you just threw down for your tournament. If you played like a 875 rated AM and lost, you are a 875 rated AM.

Would everyone please pay their dues so I can look at the ratings history. I threw down a 846 at Tupelo nitz. Baggers just make you better.

Jonas, now thats a bagger, just kidding :Dsee everyone gets beat every now and then, and jonas dont worry im gettin my game back steadily and I will be able to compete with you again. South Carolina Rocks

What you saying about NC Willis!

How bout this South and North Carolina Rocks
Go Carolinas Go

Yippy, we are one family again!

Tear it up Chris, I heard that course was awesome, I just can't swing it this year with the injury. I'll be back to rep at Bowling Green/Crosstown before I go pro. How is Farnham doing? Send my regards.

Good luck to you all.........except Jonas..........he is lucky already from how I have seen him play! :o

Clizark, I didnt know that my rating was that high back then, and I am not proud in playing the intermediate division, so now if its okay with you can you just drop it and accept the apology. I apologize to everyone. If it makes you feel anybetter the boom box rocks :D See yall at the Canyon



Thanks! I hope you Kick some @#$ and hopefully not get a boom box this year :Dmaybe something that flys better.

I guess the Charlotte open doesn't count. :o


Where are all of the other consistent top ten's????


I had a few problems @ the Charlotte open :DIdidnt dring any turnover mid range discs, and i cant flick to save my life!
that causes one to be verry creative with there discs. (beating one into the concrete before the round to get it to flip late.
I had a lot of fun though does that count :D
dont worry about my top tens, maybe cashing would be a better word.

see you @ bukhorn open?

Getting beat up in Raleigh has made you bitter. When DNA beat me I practiced until it never happend again. I thought that player's ratings were suggestions, untill cash was involved?



Im not bitter i love the comp in Raligh its made me better. Bitter is not me bro!

I fixed my putter last night. A little rock, over the lip, little hyzer, center cut. Ching. No luck necessary, except in the woods in NC.

Good luck to all at the Canyon, I am saving my Florida trip for the Melbourne. See y'all in Savannah too.

no buckhorn open?

I might be able to swing that one. I have not played the course. How far is it from Cary?

I might be able to swing that one. I have not played the course. How far is it from Cary?



15 minutes

That is pretty close. I think I can do that. Will it fill up? I didn't see a reg form so I sent a contact to the listed TD.

See you there

I had a few problems @ the Charlotte open :DIdidnt dring any turnover mid range discs, and i cant flick to save my life!




learn a wing

: ) :

Jonas you must go to the CANYON!!! You will not regret it. It might be the best course you have or will ever play....and rumor has it that it may not be there for long. I believe Travis and Coral are going to the AM and Pro so you might want to get in touch with them. I'll be there for the am

chris

Jonas you must go to the CANYON!!! You will not regret it. It might be the best course you have or will ever play....and rumor has it that it may not be there for long. I believe Travis and Coral are going to the AM and Pro so you might want to get in touch with them. I'll be there for the am

chris




its true this might be you last chance

I had a few problems @ the Charlotte open :DIdidnt dring any turnover mid range discs, and i cant flick to save my life!




learn a wing

: ) :



I had a wing the SH*T Bird wing !

Craig, Mikes been doing good and he says Hi, Hope to see you soon at a tournament, and dont forget about us little guys when you go pro...take it easy man, Go Carolinas Go and good luck to all at the pro and am legs of the Canyon, peace

The Gran Canyon disc golf course is on the market for $2.5m if someone wants to save it from becoming 60 acres of nothing. If you can make it out to this course, it would be well worth it.Watch out for huge spiders and sudden drop offs. :eek:

The spiders are really a Summer thing though, right? I haven't seen one there in three years. I have seen them in the summer though and they're HUGE.
It's been up for sale for awhile. Personally, I don't see the market for it. Even for development I don't see it, cause the land would need SO much work.

2.5 million! thats it! not that I have that much money or anything. Thats cheap for thaat much land.

FUNDRAISER!!!!!!

2.5 million really isnt that much for how quickly the area is building. I was out there on saturday and I saw atleast 15 or so bannana spiders and some other ones that were kinda fat and looked poisonous. Oh yeah, be careful not to grab the tall grass plants if you start to slide down a hill, it will cut your fingers open as if it were a razor blade and theres lots of em'

oh yeah, the weekend before cross canyon challenge AMS (january 21st, saturday), the JIM ULSHAFER MEMORIAL doubles tournament is being held at the canyon. It is one round of 27 with A pool & B pool, or mixed doubles teams.The entry form is available on FABFLORIDATOUR.ORG under "other tournaments" and this tournament is not sanctioned, but is good practice if you will be in town a week before the AM weekend.I think last year had a turnout of 60-70 players and is for a great cause.

2.5 million really isnt that much for how quickly the area is building. I was out there on saturday and I saw atleast 15 or so bannana spiders and some other ones that were kinda fat and looked poisonous. Oh yeah, be careful not to grab the tall grass plants if you start to slide down a hill, it will cut your fingers open as if it were a razor blade and theres lots of em'


Not only will the sawgrass tear your hands up, but they SWALLOW discs too. I had my first witnessed ace 3 years back @ USF, then the sawgrass on 25 stole my ace disc. We spent three hours looking for it. Of course, it was a day later, so... :mad:

I threw a drive straight into the large sawgrass bush on hole 7, 40 feet in front of me to the left and never found the disc. After spending a good 30 minutes looking for it and tearing up my arms and legs with razor like cuts, it finally occurred to me what had happened. When the disc hit the saw blades,it was disintegrated into microscopic pieces of plastic, and vanished without a trace.....that's some bad grass.

well said Ron,
All flyers are available now at Fabulous Florida Tour site
http://www.fabflatour.org

Ulshafer Memorial 1 round 27.......sat 21st
CCC am weekend 2 round 27.......28th and 29th
I'll be up friday 27th for dubs since "everyone's welcome"

Hotels and camping easy to find and close by. A few good places to eat and a quality grocery store.
Seriously top notch disc golf course on an amazing piece of land!
come watch or even play.

Well, if it isnt mr. 311..... Are you going to be attending the ulshafer memorial Bryan? Thanks for bringing out those SSP pint glasses on sunday, its sweet.

hand wash that glass like a lady.
can't miss the Ulshafer Memorial, trying to rally the Sky Pilots!

church van comith!!
see you there

Sweet, I guess I'll see the disciples van....and I guess I'll be in the same (A)pool as you since they are keeping advanced with open players.

P.S. skypilots do NOT rule!

pre reg list?

tourney pre reg appear to be popping up,
try.......
http://www.fabflatour.org
or
http://gdisc.com/

For any am's on the fence for the next weekend. Take a drive to FLA, warm up by playing the CCC...
could seriously be the last chance to dance trance perhaps?!

70 registered for the am weekend already....

Played with HOS at the Jim Ulshafer Memorial, one long round and we discussed the fact that many of the am pads were either moved or removed, along with minor lengthening of a few pro pads. You gotta love the carpet!!

Doubles featured the random draw of Ken Climo & John E McCray = -15 and bogey free. Also impressive was GG and KeithCox bogey free -8. I thought the course was supposed to play tough.
Be ready to get rocked.

"Leavin' on a jet plane..."

Got my boarding pass and I'm packing! See FL tomorrow.

It's a good thing the driveway is shovelled. Shorts here I come :D.

The Sauls migration has started..Brooksville here we come!

There have been a few adjustments for 06' and let me spread the rumor, ams play GOLDS on Sunday. I hope this isn't true.

The GOLD pads are popping up where most of the blues used to be. Carpet thief extraordinaire HOS, who I played a long Friday Doubles round with, has layed down some work to get the course in good shape.
<font color="red"> There will be some changes for the PROS!!</font>

Anyone hear who won?

and what did they win?

buTTerflieZZ

second hand smoke......

1st Place- Joe Checorski from Jax!! Nice win man, congrats!!!

.....ignore numerical order....

2)one of the two Illinois players.... Hemler or Klatt
3)Chris Kilgus from Orangeburg, SC
4)Corey Wisenburg
5)Casey Wisenburg (both from Jax)

The FFT website will have the results posted later. FFT (http://www.fabflatour.org/)

Thanks, Joe & Wendy & everyone else. Had a great time, as you can tell by my concerted effort to take more throws on this great course than virtually anyone else.

Thanks again to John for making this fabulous course available for disc golfers.

and what did they win?



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Results are on website.

Father & Son team of Travis & Coral Sauls finished 3rd & 7th in Advanced (far, far ahead of any other Saulses who may have attended).

That was Klatt in the #2 spot, I tied for eighth.
This year, Joe gave away some merch. and mainly vouchers for his store, on-site or in Clearwater.
Man, I love this course, and the new gold tee's are pretty interesting.
I also want to thank EVERYONE I played with. I had some fun cards to work with. And Sunday, the lead card was the best, no stress (except for that which I brought on myself :o) and nothing but fun.
Thanks again,
Tafe

Man, I love this course, and the new gold tee's are pretty interesting.



Did anyone play from the GOLD tees??

Hole #5 has a new GOLD tee which will change the way you feel about the hole. 20-25 feet further and 5 feet below the BLUE tee.

Advanced players played from gold tees on #2, #5, and #10 in Sunday's round. #2's gold tee is quite interesting, as you're shooting through a window (heaven help you if you nick it). #10 gives you a lot more canyon to cross on the "cross canyon" shot, and the landing area seems a little smaller from up there.

A little birdie told me the land was sold and the course will be pulled. Can anyone confirm? I always wanted to make it down there, the course looks like the #$*&$!...

I was there last year and that is the word. Would definitely like confirmation. That course is definitely the #$%^!

I am sorry to be in the know and confirm the sad news :(

Des and I got to play one of the last rounds there yesterday with course designer, Greg Hosfeld. It was our first time and man am I glad we got to see this incredible disc golf property.

John, the owner, for the last 35 years and raising four youngsters is sad to move on, but the kids have all moved on as well.
We talked with him for quite a while and he loves the game of disc golf and the kind people that shared his property.

Greg hit dead center basket on hole 24 off one of the many cliffs. Would have been nice to see his last round give up one last ace.

I don 't know how we all could have saved the property.
Where is Daddy Worbucks when you need him.

Was definitely sad news to hear from Hoss, you could see the disappointment in his face, one of TThe GreaTTest courses of all time.....definitely glad I got to play it several times. It will be missed.

best course ever built....hands down best I've ever played......John is moving into our neck of the woods (S.C) and is looking for some land. maybe I can find him a quarry to buy.

In a side note, what is going to happen to the baskets? I am interested in purchasing some for our private course.

Someone in contact with John, please pass along our deep thanks for having made this property available to disc golfers over the years.

I agree with everyone else, this course, the atmosphere and all the feelings that you felt when you played it will be missed. Ive only played it a few times but everytime I did I thought to myself, "This is the best course ever." First time I saw it was in the morning at about 6:30 a.m. after sleeping in the parking lot from driving up that night, and the first thing I thought when seeing it was, Wow........ Sorry to see it go

BUMMIN' i feel very sick about losing this course but we were all very fortunate to have it as long as we did. i played in every event, doubles, singles, excluding this years doubles. being that i grew up in the hills of oregon this place allways felt like home. john the land owner allways welcomed you as you arrived on his property. his main rule was, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME ! i just want to thank john, joe, wendy, and greg for all the great times spent in the canyon ! also a special thanks to Brad A for discovering the setting. THANKS ! BROOKSVILLE CCC WILL BE MISSED ! R.I.P. Murph

OUCH!!! This really hurts.
The course was getting better every year. I always longed to see cement pads, stairs and water every time I played the CCC. Now that those longings will be unfulfilled, does anyone have a good picture of # 16's (hanging) basket? Let me know.

I just e-mailed a couple of pictures to you. If you don't get them, post back and I'll post them on a web page and link to them.

My brother and I are building a private course ourselves. John knew this, and at last year's Cross Canyon, as I was playing the hanging basket, John strolled by and yelled "Sauls! You need to build one of these on your course!" As if such a hole could be easily constructed, complete with a mature pine on top from which to hang a basket!

Never got to play the course. I might drive down this winter from Kansas if it is still there. When will it be pulled?

Great courses have gotten the axe. One of a kind: Ted's Dread in KC, KS. Never got to play San Saba. Hopefully De Laveaga will be around for a while...

This was hands down my favorit course. Its a shame it had to go. The good news is there is a little spot carved out in heaven for this course.

Got 'em. Thank you.
I always wanted another crack at #18.
I'm pretty sure that the baskets will be pulled very quickly, but it will take quite a while for the developer to get the land in shape for any construction to begin. There's a ton of removal and grading to be done. The fact that you will no longer be required to sign an insurance waiver will probably preclude any activities on the land. It is quite hazardous.
I am somewhat curios to see what they do with this land. It doesn't seem that it will be easy to anything except what we did!

Wow, this is too bad. I got to play it twice last spring and truely was heaven! Just like most of us, Ive had dreams of playing disc golf only to wake up disappointed...one time in particular, recently I might add, I woke up from a dream that I was about to Tee off at the Canyon, gggrrr.
I can remember emptying my bag on hole 24(I think, down the cliff), then ran down to retrieve my discs only to re-empty. The whole time John was standing there talking to us wanting one of us to hit it. He always seemed to come out of nowhere all over the course...lol..Some VERY memorable UNFORGETTABLE golf shots on that slice of heaven. Intensity was that course's attribute. All I got to play was the Gold's both rounds and glad I did...I could go on...Hole 2, 7, 18, 27, and the one where you throw over the huge gap then up a little ways...favorites..

What were some of your favorites?
Turbo

fav's..... 1-27

Starting the "nasty nine" trying to squeeze an anhyzer (RHBH) under a huge live oak limb but over the hill behind it....then over a split-rail fence to an alien basket, with oblivion for a backdrop.

And knowing that 26 holes to follow would be just as cool.

Watching folks 6-putt the hanging basket in a stiff wind, where even laying up held no guarantees.

Playing #1 while watching for discs falling from the sky from #27 (?). You may not like crossing fairways, but could you relinquish either of these holes?

Not to mention the incredible views from the hilltops and the otherworldly feeling of the canyon bottoms.

It was not only an incredible piece of property with a wonderful and gracious property owner, but a terrific design as well.

I'll miss every inch of it, except perhaps the sawgrass. Fortunately last winter, with knowledge that it was for sale and this day would come, I took lots of photos so I can replay it in my mind.

When I try to think of favorites, I come up with the same answer as Schweb, 1-27!
Some of my favorite memories though are:
First year there hitting what Matt Peckham called a "shadow ace" on 24 when the tree was still there. I went backdoor hyzer and the shadow of my disc was in the shadow of the chains all the way down until it hit the plywood base of the basket.
Last year parring #10 (the canyon then up hole) from both teepads, and parking #12 (BIG downhill hyzer). Also nailing a 10-15 foot putt on the hanging basket, and another one on #20 when I was 25 feet behind the basket staring at the bottom of the canyon.
My favorite hole was probably #23. One wrong move around that green and you're dead.

cheeseburger is the man

seeing the nipple aced! on by the card behind me