What does everyone think the best overhand disc is, I like the Firebird, but think i could do better with another disc. Any opinions,
thanks
Greatzky2
Nov 23 2005, 01:46 AM
I enjoy the firebird, but I have had better luck with the Proline(champion) Monsters.
They seem to turn better for me. I have also thrown teebirds overhand, but not for distance like I have with Monsters.
I'm guessing the faster and more overstable the disc is the better.
-Scott Lewis
xterramatt
Nov 23 2005, 10:01 AM
I throw 166 gram gummy monsters. I'd probably throw lighter if I could find a disc I like enough to carry around just for thumbers.
I don't throw that many thumbers. It's also great for mega spike hyzers.
I have always thrown 1st run CE Eagles for thumbers and tomahawks. I have tried the Champ FB's when I haven't had an Eagle, but always seem to go back to the Eagle. I just like the way the rim feels in my hand better than the wider rim discs.
my_hero
Nov 23 2005, 10:52 AM
I have noticed a lot of people throwing Z-Flicks for overhands.
veganray
Nov 23 2005, 12:19 PM
150g gummy Champion Banshee. Over 320 with pinpoint accuracy; I should probably throw it more.
riverdog
Nov 23 2005, 12:39 PM
I'm with you on this one V-ray. I have two aces with my 146g KC Pro Banshee since July thrown as a more conventional hyzer disc but it is also my go to Tommy disc. Just ordered a couple of ultralight Spirits to try as the dedicated Tommy disc as even the 150 class stuff gives my shoulder fits as I get older. :( I'll report on those after I give them a run through.
veganray
Nov 23 2005, 12:47 PM
I tried a 110g Speed Demon for hawks & it just flipped too quickly & I got no D. It is fun for downhill, tailwind crushes, though . . .
bschweberger
Nov 23 2005, 01:04 PM
Champion Firebirds are probably the best.
Boneman
Nov 23 2005, 01:15 PM
150g 1st run Z Flick
169g Z Flick for heavier wind conditions.
Works for me.
the_kid
Nov 23 2005, 08:53 PM
Eagles for accuracy, monsters for D, and Illusions for a little bit of both. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
m_conners
Nov 23 2005, 09:01 PM
175 Champ Firebird.
veganray
Nov 23 2005, 09:48 PM
Just rec'd some 150g gummy Champion Firebirds today. Will field (& course) test vs. 150g Champion Banshee over the long weekend & report back . . .
Alacrity
Nov 24 2005, 09:35 PM
What does everyone think the best overhand disc is, I like the Firebird, but think i could do better with another disc. Any opinions,
thanks
I have a friend who throws a ton of thumbers and he prefers Champion Starfires.
Over the years I have come to the decision it depends on the angle of release you have, I'm talking about thumber for the examples. Most people either throw at 1:00 o'clock(myself) or at 11:00-12:00(a good friend of mine). If u release at 1:00 you'll want the most overstable disc u can stand to throw w/ SNAP, I throw blue champ firebirds. I have friends that can throw a little farther than me, 375' , and they use CE Valks due to the 11:00-12:00 release. Since they release it almost vertical they need a disc that will flip quicker-- give'm a firebird and it will stay vertical until it hits the ground. Thus, when I throw a Valkyrie, it goes 200' because it flips quicker, and believe me it is very important to know the difference. I'll use a valk for short thumbers and accuracy and firebirds for distance. Go out to a field and pay attention to your release point and pick a disc accordingly. I've changed many a peoples overhand just by changing their equipment based on watching them. Hope this helps. Disc On!!!
For years, it has been Yellow Champion Eagles for me, but am liking the Pro Monster I have, occationally......
Flicks I have thrown a couple times, but need to try them more.....
Of course, my weenie arm maxes out about 225 on a Thumber....
I'm new to the sport..... "thumber"; is this an interchangable term with "tomahawk"?
I use Champ Orc for distance tomahawk.
DX Archangel for shorter ones..probably not the best disc for this, but I guess I have gotten used to it.
The feedback on the champ Firebird & Moster have me interested, though. I need to try those.
riverdog
Nov 28 2005, 04:43 PM
Threw the ultralight Spirits over the long weekend. You are right about the lack of D, both backhand and overhead. A killer situation disc though - tight uphill backhand hyzers and steep downhill tommy's. What up with the FB's Ray?
greenbeard
Nov 28 2005, 05:42 PM
aye, the thumber is thrown with the thumb on the inside of the disc, tommy with forefinger on the inside. Some use two fingers, I use one.
And I use the Monster only for overhead throws. I prefer 172 for the weight. I've thrown firebirds and others, but none are nearly as consistant as the monster for the tommy... which I throw often and accurately on midrange shots, low ceiling or not.
p.s. get a heavy disc and you'll blow up your arm. Go mid weight.
tbender
Nov 28 2005, 06:04 PM
164 CE Eagle for all overhands (tomahawks and thumbers). If windy I'll bulk up to my 170 CE Eagle (or even a 175 Firebird on the thumber).
Gets me a consistent 300' on the thumber and 325' on the tomahawk. I always try to throw the tomahawk over the thumber because it is less stressful on the elbow to throw hard. Tomahawks are more spin than pure power.
veganray
Nov 29 2005, 12:46 PM
150 gummy Ch. Firebirds vs. 150 gummy Ch. Banshees: For me, the Firebirds, while consistently 25-35 feet longer on thumbers & hawks, were squirrelier in that, depending on release height & speed, they were more apt to turn more or fade more off of true. Banshees kept very straight even with lower or softer throws.
I might keep both in my bag, as a full, high rip with the Firebird ends up very straight for me & farther than I thought I could throw an overhand shot. The accuracy of the Banshee I could never remove from my bag.
riverdog
Nov 30 2005, 10:36 AM
VeganRay, you have a PM. :)