what is it and how do you do it?
Plankeye
Oct 08 2005, 12:16 AM
from my understanding(cause I used to do this a lot), it is when you throw an overstable disc with some anhyzer to force it to S Curve.
For a RHBH, the disc would start off going to the right, but the overstability would eventually pull it back left. It helps your D on open holes if the disc has some decent glide.
You can also get a shot to flex, or "S" by throwing it faster than it is designed to fly. Too much speed makes the disc become understable, and turn towards your throwing hand, as it slows, it moves back away from your throwing hand ... the flight makes a backwards "S" for right handed back handed throws. (turns right, then left)
Called a Helix, flex, or "S" shot.
And it's really cool to watch one fly that way. I think the first time I threw a really good flex shot is the moment that I became addicted to this silly game.
I throw this shot alot with a champ firebird sidearm. When i throw it I almost releast the disc at an angle where the top and bottom of the disc are at 3 o clock and 9 o clock accordingly.
I use my FB for the same thing. because it is so overstable, i can get a nice wide S curve on it, and its great for going around obstacles.
for an open hole, i throw my TB a little higher than usual and give it a lot of power. the extra power makes it flex right, then the height allows it to fade back more at the end.
discgolfreview
Oct 08 2005, 04:19 PM
you can also throw a touch-anhyzer flex shot with a stable/understable approach disc by throwing it nose up annie and letting it "swim" and flex back.
not really useful on most shots longer than 150' though.
You can also get a shot to flex, or "S" by throwing it faster than it is designed to fly. Too much speed makes the disc become understable, and turn towards your throwing hand, as it slows, it moves back away from your throwing hand ... the flight makes a backwards "S" for right handed back handed throws. (turns right, then left)
Called a Helix, flex, or "S" shot.
And it's really cool to watch one fly that way. I think the first time I threw a really good flex shot is the moment that I became addicted to this silly game.
aren't you describing more of a Hyzerflip that is released flat?? From what i'm aware of a FLexshot refers more to starting an overstable disc on an anny line with the result being that it will FLex back over to the left..
I don't believe that S shots are the same thing. they might have been at some point, but i'm pretty sure they are used now adays for two different shots.
-Scott Lewis
You can also do this by the placement of your thumb on the top of the disc. If you pull your thumb in by the lip of the disc, it will be less likely to flip over and go understable. If you put your thumb more towards the middle of the disc and apply a little pressure, the disc will be more likely to flip over and go understable. I think thats how it is anyways.
This is a good shot for a flick. If you roll your wrist and snap this disc hard, it will do a really nice S curve. Not a ton of glide, but this disc is fast enough it doesn't matter. I get almost as much distance with this as I do with a straight drive with a flash, orc, beast etc. Once perfected it is also fairly accurate. What makes this disc great for this shot is that it isn't so overstable that it can't be worked over. It is also the fastest disc out there and will displace air easily.
What disc are you talking about????
I thought we were talking about Flex Shots... not discs.
-Scott Lewis
most likely on the lines of a firebird,monster,banshee type overstable mold.
i didn't know that "swim" was also a disc flight characteristic term... does it wiggle around or something? i shall try this out soon.
flex shots are the opposite of hyzer flips... throw an overstable disc with anhyzer vs. throw an understable disc with hyzer. both get a lot of flight out of your disc due to throwing against the disc's tendency to do whatever.
in addition... they take similer flight paths, but not the same!
adogg187420
Oct 10 2005, 02:52 PM
you can also throw a touch-anhyzer flex shot with a stable/understable approach disc by throwing it nose up annie and letting it "swim" and flex back.
not really useful on most shots longer than 150' though.
Wouldnt that be a stall shot? Thats exactly how i stall my stable Aviars for anny upshots, they dont really swim or flex back because of the lack of spin.
discgolfreview
Oct 10 2005, 07:22 PM
there's like 10 names for every one shot, and a bunch of names that describe multiple shots... technically a flex shot is any shot that is turning to the right (either by anhyzer or speed) and flexes back out.
i throw quite a few touch anhyzers that are a form of flex shot and a form of stall shot (although they are not a pure stall shot). generally the difference between a touch annie that flexes and one that doesn't is just a matter of height underneath the disc giving it time to fade as it slows down and gyroscopics take over.
"swim" is a term my buddy uses to describe low velocity flight behavior where the disc takes a very sweeping motion while it changes trajectories (e.g. from anhyzer to flat and turning to slowing down to fading).