At a recent BDGA tour event in England Jonnie Potts had samples of the brand new QK2 to try. It was awesome!

The plastic is more durable than the QK, semi translucent, a bit like Champion or Z. The samples were directly from the new mould so the discs were near identical to what the production run will be.

The mould is like the QK, but the shape of the underside of the rim is different. If you ever saw one of the original QK prototypes it's like that with the rim blending into the plate more that the production QK. Months back when trying out the QK prototype I had to alter my grip, not so with the QK2 however. Unfortunately I didn't have both discs at hand to compare and see why this was.

There were four QK2 samples to throw, two light ones in the high 160s and two max weight. The heavier ones were (predicably) a little more stable, but not as much as the QK. With a light following wind the lighter discs took a high anhyzer and just flew and flew for miles. They were going further than anything else I could tonk as a control disc (Beast, Orc, Wraith) and hard as I tried I couldn't stall the **** things!

You may be thinking 'I've heard this all before about the QK first time around' and you'd be right. Personally I raved about the QK prototypes but the actual disc was (IMHO) not as good. For me the QK2 samples are the disc the QK should have been and I greatly anticipate their release. When this is I don't know, suggest keeping an eye on the Discwing.com website.

Greeting from Bonnie Scotland
Jester
BDGA #128
PDGA #8817

so maybe this is the "revolutionary plastic" and amazing new mold we were promised months ago?

I was just told by someone at Discwing that the prototypes have not even been run off yet. He said it would still be a couple weeks before one is produced. That was Discwing here though. Maybe it is different in Europe.

I could care less about the QK or Discwing. I have no respect for a company that generates media hype over a crappy product. Good thing many of us saw right through their BS...now they want a second chance? Good luck...

kind of sort of like the meteorologist we have in the South

Yeah...The farthest flying disc ever made.....

GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK!

I would never buy another piece of crap from a company that makes the Quarter K.

Wierd rim....no distance gain....nothing revolutionary, whatsoever. :(

The Wraith KILLS the Quarter K for distance. :eek:

Who is actually gonna believe that their new disc will be any better?

Give me a break. If you don't like the product, don't buy it but don't trash a company trying to make a product work. Jonnie is committed to making a quality product. He is working in that direction. Seeing a great post from across the pond is encouraging.

If you don't want to try anything different, fine, stick with your Wraith but chill out on the "other" companies. I for one am looking forward to the chance to throw a more resilient QK.

thanks for the review Jester!

eric

Yeah, you gotta start somewhere...

Yeah...The farthest flying disc ever made.....

GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK!

I would never buy another piece of crap from a company that makes the Quarter K.

Wierd rim....no distance gain....nothing revolutionary, whatsoever. :(

The Wraith KILLS the Quarter K for distance. :eek:

Who is actually gonna believe that their new disc will be any better?



jesus...the roc kills the quarter k for distance! and better accuracy!

What's wrong with giving someone a second chance? Afterall, we gave Innova another one after making the Dolphin.

If we gave everyone only one chance, we'd still be living in the dark ages. All disc golf companies experiment; besides it's human nature and if they didn't we'd all still be throwing pie tins. And don't try the "pie tins probably fly farther than QK's" line either.

My QK didn't blow me away, nor did it outdistance my Clones. This could be that I need to adjust my grip because it IS decidedly different feeling than my Clones and my Innova drivers. I did have some rather nice flights with it as well, just no major distance gains, or minor one's for that matter. My trusty Cyclone 2 beat it everytime for accuracy and distance.

I'd still be willing to try out a new model though. It's only money. I'll have to test it out against my Clones and my Wraiths (which seem to be pretty kick [I'm a potty-mouth!] so far).

JA

Nothing wrong with a second chance.

But don't get all p!ssy when no one falls for the hype-machine a second time. :)

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Do not fault those of us that do not get mesmerized by advertising campaigns.

There's a difference between an established company producing a disc that doesn't take than a company just getting started claiming to be revolutionary.

I believe I'll wait for the next Innova, Discraft, or Gateway product to try a new disc. The only way I'll try it is when someone that purchases it decides they don't want it and gives it to me. (like the first qk)

Gumbojoe wrote:
"I was just told by someone at Discwing that the prototypes have not even been run off yet. He said it would still be a couple weeks before one is produced. That was Discwing here though. Maybe it is different in Europe."

Hi Gumbojoe
I can't comment on the info from your contact, but I can confirm that what Jonnie Potts brought to the tournament in England was four discs from the QK2 mould in the new plastice they will be manufactured in.

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Erik K wrote:
"I could care less about the QK or Discwing. I have no respect for a company that generates media hype over a crappy product. Good thing many of us saw right through their BS...now they want a second chance? Good luck..."

and

No_Limit_Luedtke wrote:
"Yeah...The farthest flying disc ever made.....GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK! I would never buy another piece of crap from a company that makes the Quarter K. Wierd rim....no distance gain....nothing revolutionary, whatsoever. The Wraith KILLS the Quarter K for distance. Who is actually gonna believe that their new disc will be any better?"

Hi Erik and No_Limit_Luedtke
It's great you are both so passionate about disc golf. Without opinions like yours we'd be less likely to see manufacturers taking risks in product development to satisfy the needs of golfers who demand that longer/straighter/tougher/more accurate edge to their game.

I guess only when the QK2 is released will we actually know if it delivers something the current market does not. Until then all you have to go on are comments from people like me who have thrown the prototype which you can �believe� or not. If your attitude towards Discwing prevents you from trying the QK2 then so be it, I don�t believe anyone is going to force you.

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This weekend Jonnie Potts is bringing the QK2 prototypes to another BDGA Tour event in Oxford. The top distance throwers in the UK will be there. I�ll post a report of the QK2 prototype performance against other discs if there�s a genuine interest. It�s boring reading posts from players with nothing better to do than trash talk.

Jester
BDGA #128
PDGA #8817

I believe you about the QK2 but I dont understand why I was told otherwise by Todd A Breiner at Discwing. Any idea?

You can�t blame people for being skeptical about discs that are not in our hands. And you have to admit that Discwing did not deliver to us the disc they promised originally. I would say their over-marketing of a prototype concept touted as being �revolutionary� � and then long delay in producing a disc that was not what they advertised � has somewhat tarnished their image here in the USA. There is a term in the software industry called �vaporware.� I think the term some want to apply to Discwing is �vapordiscs?�

My suggestion to Discwing is to take most the cash you are forking out to create a marketing image (which you have done very well), and put it into production of the product(s?). The only way to gain back the trust of the players is by getting the discs in our hands!

Every manufacturer uses this forum as a way to release information, rumors and hype about their new, upcoming products. No problem there. However, most of them have made it past the hurdle of releasing several, if not many more discs, which gives them a place in the market and the reputation as disc �producers�. Discwing has not yet made this leap, and without products to back up their existence, people will question any rumors that are posted about them.

Kudos to Discwing for hanging in there! I hope to see all the discs that they have conceptualized become reality.

No, sorry, Joe. I've no idea.

Jes*
BDGA #128
PDGA #8817

Jester, I (and most people) appreciate your updates on the QK2 prototypes. I think its great that we have companies trying to break into the disc golf manufacturing market in America. I think that more competition pushes the quality and technology. And you are right, "It�s boring reading posts from players with nothing better to do than trash talk." Unfortunately, 90% of the posts in the DISCussion Board turn into trash talking. I'd like to see what these trash-talkers would've said about the first Innova disc, or first Discraft or Gateway disc. I heard the first NIKE and Callaway golf clubs sucked, now they are both leaders in Golf Clubs. And as far as generating media hype over a product that may not be all its cracked up to be, HELLO! does anyone watch television. EVERY COMMERICAL ON TELEVISION IS OVERHYPED CRAP! But people still buy it anyway.
I wasn't impressed with the QK personally, but thought it was a good disc. I still see alot of people throwing them. It may not have been revolutionary, like a disc that flies 6000ft and dispenses beer or something, but how revolutionary can a disc get? The disc was new and different. I think more durable plastic and better technology will come with time.
The point is that Discwing proved its commitment to the sport, and that's what matters.

Keep me updated as I am always looking to try something new. Maybe I'll like it, maybe I won't. Its good to know I can choose to throw something a little off the mainstream.

Actually it wasn't that I didn't like the QK; as a matter of fact, I did, but it beat up way to quickly and ended up reminding me of a polaris or JLS (only a little more expensive).

What made it worse was the exceptional hype surrounding this disc. As for their next disc, the skepticism comes from the fact that it is at the prototype stage. We hear great things about prototype discs, only to find out that the released disc is a little different.

As far as marketing goes, perhaps getting more people throwing your disc would be your best option. I started liking Discraft when players who had those discs and let me try them out. So, I like discraft because I threw the discs and liked them, not because I "heard" they were great discs.

The same with other companies.... Choosing who you sponsor becomes very important then. One of the players that throws INNOVA down here (not sponsored as far as I know) acts like you are trying to steal his first born if you even look at one of his discs. I find that interesting since he sells Innova products. If you really believe it is the best disc in the world, wouldn't you want others to try it? I would figure this would prompt them to buy from him.

As opposed to one of the most rewarding experiences I had in dg. Several years ago (about the time the putt'r was released), I was finishing up a round and headed to the car when a player covered in Discraft stuff (shirt, patches, etc) walked by me and invited me to join him for a round. I noticed he had many new discs that I had never seen, so I agreed. He kept pulling out discs and saying try this, try that. As a result, I went home and ordered the discs that I liked. I wish I could remember the guys name, I believe he told me he was from Houston and had travelled to play a new course he had never played before.