Who will win ROY at next years Worlds? Remember these players must have turned Pro after the 2004 AM Worlds to be eligible.

I think I have an idea who would definitely be the front runner, if only he played more big tournaments:
Nate Sexton (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=18824&year=2005)

4th at AM Worlds, but has moved his rating from 970's to over 1000 in less than a year.

Aleksey and JJ are definantly up but B(.)(.)bs has the upper hand IMO.

I think that with JJ's stats (like 3 or 4 wins, 2nd in a NT, another top 10 in an NT) are very worthy of ROY and would win pretty much any other year, just not this year.

Boobs has ROY wrapped up IMO. They go one two at Am Worlds a year before and a year later are w/out a doubt 1-2 in ROY standings.

Everyone talks about Coda vs. JJ, but I think the real rivarly is Boobs and JJ. They will meet again at the Charlotte Open....

I don't know Coda id [email protected] good. :confused:

Coda accepted cash before worlds last year, which, from what I understand, makes him inelidgeable for 2005 ROY. He was elidgeable for 2004 only.

Yeah but I was talking about the coda Vs. JJ thing

yeah but there is no rivarly there - I mean, they was supposted to be this big battle at am worlds - didn't happen. The battle was Boobs and JJ.

I Think the even bigger battle seems to be Coda VS. Boobs just because they liv eso close to each other.

Its a whole year away!

What are the standars and qualifications for ROY??? I dont even know whos elidgible (sp?) or when they are up for it???

Its all about your statistics from your rookie year.. money, points, wins, how many tournaments youve been to... all that

Don't forget who you know and where you live too. Those count considering who gets to vote.

that hurt your candidacy Matt -- but not being listed with the other ROY candidates in the DGWN bio write up about who was in the running probably hurt even more :confused:

Boobs and Justin, Two Great players, I would say Boobs has the edge over Justin because of the amount of touring. The rounds boobs shot at the Hambrick is amazing for a guy who really hadn't played the course.

I want to say JJ on this one, Bubis is a cool dude and all, but somone that plays halo 2 online with me and larry leanord, is the man in my book!

Bubis: 19 Events, 1 Win, 8 top 5's, $6,195 earned

JJ: 16 Events, 4 Wins, 9 top 5's, $4,077 earned

close race, a good showing at USDGC could be the difference, good luck to both.

B(.)(.)BS, show us your tits when you give your acceptance speech!

It would make for a nice photo op for DGWN! :D

Oh by the way, B(.)(.)BS now has 2 B TIER wins to add to his resume'!

Way to go BOOBS!

JJ

Its a whole year away!

You just knew Val had to make a comment on a thread about JJ. :o:eek: ;)

BOOBS!!! for sure

i hate you :D

GO ALEKSEY!!! :D

i hate you :D

Hate Hate hater

must be one of the have nots. :D

huh?!?

Has anyone heard from Justin lately, I've been trying to get a hold of him for about a month and a half, I've pm(ed) him a lot and he hasn't responded. If anyone sees him can you have him pm me. I hope everything is allright with him. Thanks

I Think the even bigger battle seems to be Coda VS. Boobs just because they liv eso close to each other.

not any more.

Yeah I know. I just have to get better so I can hang with Coda for a whole weekend instead of until the last round. :D:confused: :D

Yeah, that Coda kid is pretty good for a first year Pro player. Didn't he just beat a guy named Barry yesterday at a sanctioned event somewhere near Dallas?

I think he is lost in "girl Land" whoops I mean Clayton.

BTW where in the heck have u been Boobs, i have pm'd you w no response. Whats your tour schedule this year.

Yeah, that Coda kid is pretty good for a first year Pro player. Didn't he just beat a guy named Barry yesterday at a sanctioned event somewhere near Dallas?



Ah, I tied Barry at that event, even beat him in the first round. He did not have his A-Game

Has any one heard from him, or seen him I can't get in touch with him at all.

saw him all weekend and talked to him the other night - he works a lot during the week

He was at the Super Bowl Party at Kirk's house...and he was still pullin' for the Patriots to make a miraculous comeback victory from 3 weeks ago.

You can catch him on XBox live playing Halo2 at nights. Sometimes he calls to see how my XBox 360 is doing.

yo

He was at the Super Bowl Party at Kirk's house...and he was still pullin' for the Patriots to make a miraculous comeback victory from 3 weeks ago.



N ow thats funny i can hear him now "tom brady ur my hero"

I hope Aleksey wins it...good guy, good game, good attitude and good Boobs :D

I hope I win ROY. Oh wait, I already didn't a few years ago.
:D
hey B(.)(.)bs, that dvd from the USDGC ever get finished? Am I on it? :) You playing any sanctioned events in Colorado this year?

I heard that "CRUSHER" the man/boy who carries the <font color="pink">PINK REV BAG </font> nominated Boobs in the best Male category at the RAMMYS the gayporn Awards

I hope he wins! :D

J/K!!!!!

Justin is a great golfer but BOOBIES DEFINATLY DESERVES ROY!

That Mutha worked harder than ANYONE in the world to get his game to the level that he is playing at now. Boobies makes me believe that Rocky had to be on steroids to beat Drago in ROCKY 3 cuz those Russin fellows are machines or robots, whatever!

I once saw Boobies play 83 rounds in one day here in Tulsa. He was up at 11teen:30 pm waiting for the clock to strike 12:00.01am so that he could get his daily disc golf fix in. I saw him leaving the course at 11teen:01 only to see him return at 11teen:30 to warm up for hi 12:00.01 round the next day.

BOOBIES would get my vote! :D

I heard that "CRUSHER" the man/boy who carries the <font color="pink">PINK REV BAG </font> nominated Boobs in the best Male category at the RAMMYS the gayporn Awards

I hope he wins! :D

J/K!!!!!



Here we go....Nina has internet access again! :D

Yea, only Kevin would know about the Rammy's :confused:

I heard that "CRUSHER" the man/boy who carries the <font color="pink">PINK REV BAG </font> nominated Boobs in the best Male category at the RAMMYS the gayporn Awards

I hope he wins! :D

J/K!!!!!



YOU GO BOY!!! :D

Justin is a great golfer but BOOBIES DEFINATLY DESERVES ROY!

That Mutha worked harder than ANYONE in the world to get his game to the level that he is playing at now. Boobies makes me believe that Rocky had to be on steroids to beat Drago in ROCKY 3 cuz those Russin fellows are machines or robots, whatever!

I once saw Boobies play 83 rounds in one day here in Tulsa. He was up at 11teen:30 pm waiting for the clock to strike 12:00.01am so that he could get his daily disc golf fix in. I saw him leaving the course at 11teen:01 only to see him return at 11teen:30 to warm up for hi 12:00.01 round the next day.

BOOBIES would get my vote! :D



I just got one thing to say about boobs.

How in the @##$% he did NOT make team champion is beyond me!!!

BOOBS all the way!!!

See you in AZ man.

JJ is one of my best friends, but if I had a vote, it would be for Boobs.

One of the best rookie years in quite a while. JJ's stats would probably have won any of the last 6 or 7 years....just not this one.

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I once saw Boobies play 83 rounds in one day here in Tulsa.

BOOBIES would get my vote! :D[QUOTE]


83 holes, maybe, but not rounds. There's no course worthy of that.

Yeah I went 18 rounds one time and about died. :D

I watched dave Mcquay do 20 rounds in about 10-12 hours or so...granted it was for a fundraising lance armstrong charity event...at least it was only 85 or so degrees out...high humidity...
I hit 144 holes in a day for the Great 8 here in NC. Good times.

Yeah we were shooting to breal the previous record of 17 in acharity even in Houston. It was like 40 degrees and muddy all over the course so by the end of the rounds you couldn't feel your feet. :D

The guy I played with probably could've gone a few more but i was finished.

Aleksey for ROY!!

Boobies is the REAL 2004 AM Worlds Champ!!!!!

Check the scoreboard G...

Boobs needed to move to NC in early 2003 if he wanted to win the title...

Looks like Bubis is the only ROY candidate to make the top 10 in last years National Tour Points, right behind McCoy and ahead of Hammock :D

Check the scoreboard G...

Boobs needed to move to NC in early 2003 if he wanted to win the title...



I'm aware what the scoreboard said. Jernigan was a PRO in 04 playing beneath his skill level in order to BAG a World Championship, everybody who was around then knows that.

Look at Boobs stats on 04, he played MA1 the whole year up until Worlds...he was the best TRUE AMATEUR in 04', no question.

THATS THE TRUTH,don't that this wrong but J.J. grew up in golf from what I hear.(,)(,)'s was the biggest jump in player ratings in 04-MA1,and he played golf for like two years I think,when he got 2nd.
(,)(,)'s you'll ways be #1 to me ,but I call you #2.
LOL

I think its funny that the only people that want to fight this battle are everybody but the two people it involves.

The truth is JJ and boobs are good friends and they are both rising stars on the tour, you can look at past entries on this thread to see my feeling on ROY. But as far as am worlds man, let it go. Its history.

's was the biggest jump in player ratings
LOL


I think I still hold the record for biggest ratings jump in a one year span...
Also the record for the most flatlined golfer after said ratings jump :-D
May Chris Benson win ROY

Heeren had 1015 for like 4 or updates and is only two off that now. :D

This is true...I hovered between 982-992 for 4 years...that's gotta be some sort of recrd.
Now I've blasted way past that...all the way up to 994. :D
I'd like to see Adam Olsen up for ROY next year.

I think its funny that the only people that want to fight this battle are everybody but the two people it involves.

The truth is JJ and boobs are good friends and they are both rising stars on the tour, you can look at past entries on this thread to see my feeling on ROY. But as far as am worlds man, let it go. Its history.



Not fighting a battle, just stating the truth. Boobs is a friend of mine and he's never said anything bitter about losing to a Pro at 04 Iowa Worlds, he accepted it with dignity. But his Arkie and Okie homies know who the REAL Am Champ was in 04' ;)

Yeah, JJ, check the scores.
Look at Barry, he should be in the SuperPro division and quit bagging Pro.

I like the sarcasm...


1 month before Worlds:
Good Professional Win by Jernigan (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4229)

Did you see the competition at that tournament...JJ shot 1000-rated golf that weekend...that RARELY wins in Open in NC...sometimes it doesn't even get you the trophy in Adv.

Boobs is the ROY no doubt, but the '04 AM champ is non-debatable. Accept it bro.

Here's a sneak peek at the new World Rankings at the end of 2005 for these two fellows. The Adjusted values are where they ranked relative to those included in the rankings for Ratings (RR), USDGC (USR) and Pro Worlds (PWR). Lower points is better.

<table border="1"><tr><td> World Rank</td><td>Rating*</td><td>First</td><td>Last</td><td>Adj RR</td><td>Adj USR</td><td>Adj PWR</td><td>Total pts
</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>1018</td><td>Justin</td><td>Jernigan</td><td>18</td><td>22</td><td>27</td><td>20.35
</td></tr><tr><td>28</td><td>1013</td><td>Aleksey</td><td>Bubis</td><td>23</td><td>25</td><td>24</td><td>23.65
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
* List includes players who had a rating over 999 based on at least 12 rated rounds during 2005 at events of B-tier or higher level.

JJ got my vote

Didn't you read that other thread? Ya can't just go around posting peoples rankings. It's offensive. :D

Did you see the competition at that tournament...JJ shot 1000-rated golf that weekend...that RARELY wins in Open in NC...sometimes it doesn't even get you the trophy in Adv.Boobs is the ROY no doubt, but the '04 AM champ is non-debatable. Accept it bro.



Sometimes that wont win a monthly, but then again there is NC Disc Golf and then there is everyone else. :o:o:D

alright. so who would win in a fight? Boobs looks like he weights a buck ten, and JJ is a buck fiftey.
com on

I think you haven't seen Boobs. He's about as chiseled as one can be. see for yourself.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/media-pictures/i_arnie_ronnie-info2.jpg

Now I see why he can throw that Roc so far :D

What do you think is the most important part of ROY consideration? Majors? NT Events? Player Rating? I know that Justin has a slightly higher PR, but they're very close in their finishes at majors, and Bubis played 8 NT events, and finished in the top 10 at 6 of those, with 3 top 5 finishes. These are often courses that, for a rookie, they haven't had a lot of experience on. So if a top 10 showing against the best in the game on a courses that a player isn't super familiar with doesn't win ROY, I must not understand what you need to do to win.

I think you haven't seen Boobs. He's about as chiseled as one can be. see for yourself.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/media-pictures/i_arnie_ronnie-info2.jpg


He's even more chiseles than Walt Haney!!! :eek:

I like the sarcasm...


1 month before Worlds:
Good Professional Win by Jernigan (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4229)



The difference between JJ that year is that this was his first am worlds. After a few tournaments when he realized he could play the game, he decided to take a shot at am worlds. It's not like he went two years before that and got 10th, then the year before that and got 3rd....everyone should get at least one shot at am worlds. One could argue that Jack Schmals (cashed in a NT and denied before worlds) , Matt Hall (is winning events left and right in open) and Kim Scott Wood (denied cash at pro worlds a week before am worlds) had no business playing at the am worlds, but no one is complaining about them.

As an advanced player at the time that JJ was dominating us in NC, it was nice to see him realize that the local competition in advanced was not good enough to push him to the level he needed to be at to win a worlds. He played pro not because he knew he was a pro, but to gain experience playing with better players to help make himself a better player.

As BS said, JJ is the 04 world champ, but Boobs is the 05 Rookie of the Year.

Congrats to both of them for thier accomplishements.

One could argue that Jack Schmals (cashed in a NT and denied before worlds) , Matt Hall (is winning events left and right in open) and Kim Scott Wood (denied cash at pro worlds a week before am worlds) had no business playing at the am worlds, but no one is complaining about them.



So I must be the REAL '05 Am Worlds champ by Conners logic!

One could argue that Jack Schmals (cashed in a NT and denied before worlds) , Matt Hall (is winning events left and right in open) and Kim Scott Wood (denied cash at pro worlds a week before am worlds) had no business playing at the am worlds, but no one is complaining about them.



So I must be the REAL '05 Am Worlds champ by Conners logic!



Or at least only because you were the one who didn't qualify for a junior division! :)

Exactly! Either way... :D

One could argue that Jack Schmals (cashed in a NT and denied before worlds) , Matt Hall (is winning events left and right in open) and Kim Scott Wood (denied cash at pro worlds a week before am worlds) had no business playing at the am worlds, but no one is complaining about them.



So I must be the REAL '05 Am Worlds champ by Conners logic!




Yeah right, your biased opinions don't mean crap, if it was an Okie who won like that you guys would be whining like little girls.

if it was an Okie who won like that you guys would be whining like little girls.




So by that logic(since the reverse is true), you admit to be whining like a little girl.

Maybe that is how they deal with losing in a state traditionally known for losing, but not in NC bro...we just continuously spank your arse.

Well just stay in NC and keep spanking each others arses. I had heard that was normal over there but now it's been confirmed by an actual arse spanker. :o

Come to Oklahoma and we'll teach you a new game called Pilgram. :cool:

So by that logic(since the reverse is true), you admit to be whining like a little girl.

Maybe that is how they deal with losing in a state traditionally known for losing, but not in NC bro...we just continuously spank your arse.



Yes I do admit it, and nice try on the Okie low blow pal.

Unfortunatley last year at the 2 highest paying disc golf tournaments in the land your beloved NC golfers failed to score better than Okie golfers.

USDGC 2005: Kevin McCoy (Okie) placed 3rd...too bad Schweb placed behind him in 5th place.

PLAYERS CUP 2005: Ron Convers (Okie) placed 2nd in a playoff with Barry...too bad your best NC player -AGAIN- placed behind and Okie.

Hmmmm, looks like Okies played better when it counted so shut your man pleaser :o:o

Maybe you should go the Misc. thread and talk up your Tar Heels, you might have better luck there.

I'm not saying that OK doesn't have good golfers...but come on...you have 2 examples. Just 2. If I were motivated enough to continue to talk $#!TT to you, I am sure I could come up with hundreds of examples where the reverse is true. But I don't, so...you win. Oklahoma disc golf must be beTTer than NC disc gol...I can't even get through the whole sentence without straining a rib with laughter.

I have to be honest, NC disc golf is tougher than Okie DG -AND- NC probably has the most talented group of players in the nation. Man that was hard to say :D


BTW, the Hornets Nest is da BOMB!!

Yall all know TEXAS is where its at. hahahahahahahahahaha

Here and there other states (mainly Cali Florida Wisconsin Ok. and Texas) are probably better than NC

But if you did a 20 on 20 challenge with the top 20 pros - our 8-20 would destroy. I feel I'm a really good player whose game improves everyday, and just cashing in this area is still a great honor - it's just that tough

I absolutely agree that NC's 20 best would beat any other state.

That is a given.

USDGC 2005: Kevin McCoy (Okie) placed 3rd...too bad Schweb placed behind him in 5th place.

PLAYERS CUP 2005: Ron Convers (Okie) placed 2nd in a playoff with Barry...too bad your best NC player -AGAIN- placed behind and Okie.

Hmmmm, looks like Okies played better when it counted so shut your man pleaser :o:o



Hate to bring this up :Dbut it seems as OK was only able to field 3 total players for the USDGC 1-3rd, 1-137th & someone in 166th.

NC had 5 in the top 25 and accounted for 12% of all cashing players at the USDGC. On a side note the only player from NC to finish lower than 166th was some recreational kid that won the drawing for the free spot by purchasing a CE ROC.

Yup those Okies rule. How ya gonna feel next year when some NC Am player comes to your back yard and shows you how to play your own courses? :D






Rick Black posting with permission from SD

Have you ever qualified for the USDGC? That's what I thought /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I had a great time in Rock Hill. It was my first Pro tournament and even though I played like crap I still enjoyed myself and learned a lot about my game.

BTW; I doubt someone from NC wins AM Worlds this year.

It's so easy to get you Carolina boys all worked up. Is this better for y'all east coasters; North Carolina has the best players and courses in the whole wide WORLD!! And get this, their s**t don't stink either, it's faaaaantastic ;)

BTW; I doubt someone from NC wins AM Worlds this year.





My pick is an Okie....got the pleasure of playing with him in Iowa and he made my big arm look like I couldn;t throw anywhere....

My #$*&$! stinks really bad...

I'm not the least bit worked up...glad you like the courses. If you thought Hornet's Nest was badass you should check out Rennaissance. DG Adventure at it's finest. Every shot will challenge you...

I missed that one, all the local NC'ers at USDGC told me to play either Rennaissance or the Hornets Nest...on the way back to Tulsa we were real close to Hornets so we played it.

At Hornets Nest I split the fairway on the Guauntlet hole, chained out for my birdie....McCoy is designing 2 new courses here where it should be very similiar to the Hornets Nest.

My #$*&$! stinks really bad...





lmao!

BTW; I doubt someone from NC wins AM Worlds this year.





My pick is an Okie....got the pleasure of playing with him in Iowa and he made my big arm look like I couldn;t throw anywhere....



Yo MTL; you must be talking about Billy. Most people in OK and TX are saying Billy is is the favorite. Anybody who posts pics of themself on the message board must have a whole lot of confidence :D

.......http://myspace-855.vo.llnwd.net/00514/55/84/514424855_l.jpg

Sorry Billy, I had to do it

Have you ever qualified for the USDGC? That's what I thought /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif




Haven't had the desire yet. Been busy the last 4 years volunteering at the event (both during and the weeks leading up to it) donating sponsorship money (my company has been a sponsor since the beginning) plus the running of an A-tier the weekend before. Kind of wears you out.
I'm actaully quite content to do my part that week by volunteering.

On a side note though. I did win more at the 2005 USDGC than you. Thanks to a 18 inch park job on 17 on spectator day Sunday I did happen to win the 55 gallon fish tank valued at $650. Actually that means I won more than 140 of the competitors. :D and it only took 1 throw to win more than you.

And you can't get me worked up. Life's too funny to let that happen.

Side bet on an Okie vs. a Carolinian at AM Worlds this year? :D





Rick Black with permission from SD

Sorry but I have three people in mind and one in particular and none of them are from NC. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Thier initials are CH, BL, and ES

Sweet!! I remember them talking about a big fish tank and a guitar they were giving away. Nice job, man!

You may have won more than me, but I would not trade my experience at USDGC for a fish tank.

Sounds like a friendly wager....I'll put up 2 premium discs, or whatever?

Sorry but I have three people in mind and one in particular and none of them are from NC. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Thier initials are CH, BL, and ES



CH - a steady lefty who does not screw up much.

BL - can reach every hole in town.

ES - have not seen him play but he is a Twisted team mate of mine so he can't be all that bad :D

Can I put something up in a wager? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
One could argue that Jack Schmals (cashed in a NT and denied before worlds) , Matt Hall (is winning events left and right in open) and Kim Scott Wood (denied cash at pro worlds a week before am worlds) had no business playing at the am worlds, but no one is complaining about them.



I only played the NT b/c I won the entry fee, it was a good experience on my home courses

Can I put something up in a wager? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Sure, I bet you $1000 that an Okie wins the Worlds distance comp.

I'll bet on a guy named christian :D

let me re-phrase: AMATEUR Worlds Distance Competition.

No need for 2 discs. You put up 1 of the '06 Worlds discs and I'll put up 1 of our World's discs. Plus of course the usual message board proclimation "your state is so much better than out state".

And someone wants to bet on a Texas player??? Do people in Texas still golf cause I haven't seen any of them on a leader board in a long time??? To be honest I didn't know Texas was still a state, thought we sold it back to Mexico in '97.

And someone wants to bet on a Texas player??? Do people in Texas still golf cause I haven't seen any of them on a leader board in a long time??? To be honest I didn't know Texas was still a state, thought we sold it back to Mexico in '97.



LOL!!

Right on, a worlds disc it is....I hope we can remember this wager come July :D

You'll be wondering what happened to TX when we take the MPM division this year and the MPO title in 07. We will be all up in the cash this year though. Wanna wager on Texans in GA? We will have 3-5 over 1010 by then and 8 or 9 in 07'. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I'll take that Texas vs. NC players at Pro worlds in '06 although I have to warn you 1010 is where we make the split from NC's A-team to the B-team.

And I'm guessing Nolan won't make it to worlds this year.

We could do a seperate wager on the MPM division also. I've got a funny feeling the masters we're sending will hold thier own.

So whats the wager? I put up 2 premium discs and you put up Houston? :Dbout the same value..you think??? :D

Seriously I'll take one or both wagers.

How about I bet I beat 50% of your 1000+ guys in MPO? BTW "Cold Jelly" is going to win fo sure this year on the tighter courses.

Also Nolan is the least of your worries. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

How about I bet I beat 50% of your 1000+ guys in MPO? BTW "Cold Jelly" is going to win fo sure this year on the tighter courses.




Yeah cause we don't know how to play tight wooded courses here in NC :Dlmfao

And I'll take that bet on the you beating 1/2 of our 1000 rated players. Hell I'll give you 2 to 1 odds on that bet.

Here's the bet. You beat half of our 1000 rated players and I'll proclaim your superiority to the entire world and throw in a stack o plastic to ya.
I win you wear a specially designed t-shirt to a Texas tournament. (it's pink and says "when Texas Disc Golfers go to sleep - they Dream of playing in NC) picture must be taken of you in the shirt while playing rounds for 1 day

Deal??? :D

Your on. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif BTW I play better on tight courses for some strange reason. Heck my worst golf this year in AZ was Snowbowl and it is WIDE open. :D

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage

The Gauntlet!

In Matt's defense, AZ did have 3 fairly tight courses but would I have to bet against him in GA ;)

You should see the courses I have been playing lately. Hey Jack you wanna bet too? :D

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage


Is that all you got? That is a Sabre all the way man. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Anyway, Boobs for ROY :D

Nah side betting is just a distraction, I'm already "betting" by playing.

Serious? Ok cool I see what you're saying

Please understand that I'm not knocking Matt at all. 2nd at worlds is huge. Any worlds. And if he is a typical high finish worlds competitor then I'm sure his game is coming along strong.

But jack you know from playing here "i'll beat 1/2 of your NC 1000 rated players" it was just too easy. :D
I'm thinking he would have a hard time beating our Masters or Grandmasters players let alone the open guys.

Things that are too easy.
Taking candy from a baby.
Sally Murphy
Turning most of what MTL says around
"i bet i'll beat 1/2 of your NC 1000 rated players"


It's all good Matt and in good fun.




once again Rick Black posting with permission from SD

You have no clue what I have learned about my game in the last two months. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Like I said, much respect for those that play well at the Worlds. You have to be on top of your game. And I've heard nothing but good things about your game.

Now.......what size t-shirt do you wear??? :D

Just go get me some discs. :o

Ok I want one more brag. I won an event this weekend where the next best score was -6 to my -20. Ok brag off. :D

Turning most of what MTL says around




what did I say that you are turning around?

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage


Is that all you got? That is a Sabre all the way man. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



I have no doubt that Matt could hit this gap and birdie this hole. But this is only one hole. There are courses in NC where a hole like this would be considered one of the more open holes on the course.

And there is no exageration in that comment.

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage


Is that all you got? That is a Sabre all the way man. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



I have no doubt that Matt could hit this gap and birdie this hole. But this is only one hole. There are courses in NC where a hole like this would be considered one of the more open holes on the course.

And there is no exageration in that comment.




Ok it took a while but I found the Hyzer route. :D

Ok it took a while but I found the Hyzer route. :D




Here;s the thing. It's NC. If a hole like this is in front of you, there is no such thing as a hyzer route. Theres the route and that's it.

One of only three things happen.

1. You throw it straight.
2. You hit a tree
3. You get lucky.

That's it. No thumber. No hyzer. No roller. No anny. Straight.

The tight courses we have here have a lot of variety on the holes. One hole will have a straight route, an anhyzer, and a tight hyzer line to the basket. Each of these has its advantages as well as its own risks.


Hey good article on the "not supposed to mention board". :D

the link works fine to all my articles about disc golf!

Ok it took a while but I found the Hyzer route. :D




Here;s the thing. It's NC. If a hole like this is in front of you, there is no such thing as a hyzer route. Theres the route and that's it.

One of only three things happen.

1. You throw it straight.
2. You hit a tree
3. You get lucky.

That's it. No thumber. No hyzer. No roller. No anny. Straight.



I think someone needs to come play Swinging DBs.

There are some holes in NC that you can barely walk down the fairway single filed.

Also Nolan is the least of your worries. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Mr. Grider is now 28 days from being a Daddy so the DG course is the least of his worries. Clayton (we're pretty sure, but can't confirm until the swelling goes down and the DR's can get a good X-ray) has broken his arm due to a go-cart accident :(.

I've seen Matt play a few times now and there is no doubt he has some game and, I think, he is only going to get better as he matures. He's already solid in his game, so when that mental part of his game comes in he will be one of the best golfers around.




MC.........tell Billy that I'm sorry for not getting the person he wanted to throw for distance at ZBoaz, but I probably saved his ego and a few of his $$$$ :D:D......of course we won't know until that arm heals :mad:.

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage



awessome!! I wish I could play these type of courses exclusively , it would definately escalate my rating!!

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage



awessome!! I wish I could play these type of courses exclusively , it would definately escalate my rating!!


It's just a buzzz shot...

looks like the new Mohawk in Tulsa, except with leaves on the trees.

No I meant that I know of two guys (not me) who have been playing consistantly well lately and I feel will be up near the top.

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage



awessome!! I wish I could play these type of courses exclusively , it would definately escalate my rating!!


It's just a buzzz shot...



or a qms!! ;)

It's a bet.

And AZ. has no idea what a tight hole is.

Want tight??
http://www.charlottedgc.com/images/hornets/hornets_14t.jpg

Typical NC Tightage



awessome!! I wish I could play these type of courses exclusively , it would definately escalate my rating!!


It's just a buzzz shot...



or a qms!! ;)



Or a WIZZZZZARD :o

Spider FH roller.

Robert said no rollers since they don't know how to throw them.

If they were allowed I would use the Lefty forehand roller with an illusion.

What's the title of this thread? I thought it was something about "Rookies of the Year", not, "Look at my hole".

MC.........tell Billy that I'm sorry for not getting the person he wanted to throw for distance at ZBoaz, but I probably saved his ego and a few of his $$$$ :D:D......of course we won't know until that arm heals :mad:.



I'll tell him tonight at BBall league ;)

The Hornet Nest is in my top 5 for sure...here is a link to some Hornets Nest pics we took on our way back from Rock Hill last year.

Okies at Hornets Nest (http://www.kycom.com/discgolf/I/I.htm)

What's the title of this thread? I thought it was something about "Rookies of the Year", not, "Look at my hole".



Boobs for President!!

Sure, I bet you $1000 that an Okie wins the Worlds distance comp.



Did I hear someone say Oklahoma will take back to back distance titles?

2005 Pro - Coda -
2006 Pro - Coda probably
2005 Advance - Mike Conners' favorite transplant in Texas and Matt Halls best doubles partner to date :) aka "Putt_like_Tiger"
2006 Advanced - Billy
2005 16 under - Devan Owens
2006 19 and under - Devan Owens

Oklahoma knows how to breed winners, and look for NC's singles streak to end (thank God so we will stop hearing about it).

Single Champ - I can think of five players in Tulsa and five more in Texas that could take the title.

About JJ - Sorry MC, but he was an "Am" player in Iowa and smacked Boobs around the course to win the Am Championship that year.

About Boobs - If you look at the total body of work and head to head, he nudges JJ.

Boobs for ROY, even though he forgets to call his friends.

Oklahoma knows how to breed winners, and look for NC's singles streak to end (thank God so we will stop hearing about it).

Single Champ - I can think of five players in Tulsa and five more in Texas that could take the title.



It's kind of hard not to talk about it. 3 of the last 4 Adv world champs are from here. And I'm not doubting some Okies will have a home field advantage and may place well. But I'm confident enough to plase a small wager on it. Okie vs. NC that is.

As for Texans??? Pink shirt bets for any of you willing to back up your talk. :D




rick black

Oklahoma knows how to breed winners, and look for NC's singles streak to end (thank God so we will stop hearing about it).


Single Champ - I can think of five players in Tulsa and five more in Texas that could take the title.



It's kind of hard not to talk about it. 3 of the last 4 Adv world champs are from here. And I'm not doubting some Okies will have a home field advantage and may place well. But I'm confident enough to plase a small wager on it. Okie vs. NC that is.

As for Texans??? Pink shirt bets for any of you willing to back up your talk. :D




rick black



I will take you up on that. Pink is my favorite color. :)

Question : What does NC and your rating have in common ?

Answer : There both going down. :o:D

I will take you up on that. Pink is my favorite color. :)



Nelle, I've seen you sportin the pink "Twisted" Revolution Bag...Billy Lund is carrying a Pink Rev Bag also :o

I have seen more than one guy in OK carry the pink Revolution. Makes ya think. ;)

Takes a confident guy to carry it. More power to them. But they cant let the girls have anything of their own in disc golf. :D

A guy who can throw 600ft can have WHATEVER COLOR BAG/DISCS/SHIRTS HE WANTS!

and that's not message board distance! That's actually (real life) distance. I can't wait to see all these guys who claim to throw over 500ft regularly see what 500ft really looks like. Billy Lund will own am worlds.

Since I have traveled around the country I have some good insight on certain regions of the country.

There is a good chance that an OKIE will win distance, but for winning the tournament I would have to say that an NC player has more of a chance. NC golfers have more disc golf skills than OKIES due to their MUCH superior courses. We are working on building courses that are the equivilent to some of the great courses that NC has and I think within the next 10 years the leaderboards in the Open divisions will be littered with OKIES!

With all that said if the wind is blowing at all, even if its only a 10mph wind, its all over for the Carolinians. Okies will dominate

I agree with Kevin on this one. Distance no matter how impressive will only get you so far come tourney time.
It's not just the level of courses where Carolinians hone thier skills but who they hone them against. And there is no tougher region in the country than the Triangle area. Past 2 Adv world champs are a testament to that. Play with the likes of Walt, Larry, Schweb, Mcree, Hoffman, Sonderfan, CLEE, GTW etc...etc...and see what happens to your game.

But there is hope as Nina seems to play well in these parts.

Now if the wind is blowing then it's a whole nother story. We don't get crazy winds aroud here unless it's on the coast.



Rick Black

the reason I believe all those golfers are so great are becuase of the great courses. If you can play well at Reny, or the Hornets Nest, you can be good ANYWHERE!

Example: Michael Jo

Well, if all you need is a 10 mph wind, it's all over now. I don't think I've ever played a tournament in Tulsa with less than 10 mph winds. :cool:

In the middle of Summer the winds are usually somewhat calm

The rest of the year ahhhhhhhh http://www2.wcoil.com/~nevintt/new2001/Mvc-253f.jpg

If wind is going to be a significant factor on some courses versus others at Am Worlds, we probably need to seed the pools in MA1 and MM1 with most top seeds in one pool.

Wind is usually only a factor 11 months out of the year last two weeks of July and most of August its HOT as two rats "having intercourse" (<-PG rated version for the board) in a wool sock. Its hotter than a goats "bum" in a pepper patch. Hotter than donut grease.

and when the wind blows then it feels like a hair dryer.

NC (http://msn.prevention.com/article/0,5778,s2-2-171-749-6695-3,00.html) wins again. Atleast you guys are in the top 100.

I got to play with a bunch of NC'ers in Des Moines and enjoyed the rounds I played with all of them. I have a lot of respect for the players and the courses in North Carolina......lookin forward to the competition and gettin to playin golf with yall at WOLRDS!!

...Oh and about distance....if the conditions are right I would love to see someone smash one over 600'...I know disc golf isn't all about distance, but it sure is fun to see a disc fly for that long in the air....I know I'm gonna do my part to rep the OKIES!!! SO BRING IT!!! :cool:

It's one thing to be able to throw 600 feet in the wide open when it doesn't matter where it lands, it's another to claim that as a strength to your game. I'd love to see anyone throw an accurate 600 foot thrown during a tournament round (when it's not crazy elevation downhill)
Unless you're Avery and you're throwing 150 class in Japan with high winds and you're playing a pretty open course, outside of that, however, distance doesn't mean much. Accuracy is where it's at.

Play with the likes of Walt, Larry, Schweb, Mcree, Hoffman, Sonderfan, CLEE, GTW etc...etc...and see what happens to your game.




WTF Rick...bs can't get no love?

Quite the contrary BS.

You'll notice I didn't lump you into the same category as the other NC pros. You know as well as I do that you're in a category by yourself. I mean it was just last year that I was proclaiming that you may have shot one of the greatest rounds ever and it was a pleasure to be in the same group to view it.
And to think that you excel at this sport utilizing maybe 50% of your TTrue potential. And don't get me started on your inate ability to party with the best of them and yet show up the next day and dominate the way you do.
So you see it was in no way discouteous to you to not lump you into the same group as the other residential pros.
You my good sir are one of a kind.

BS :D




rick black

Sorry, gotta get back to topic...I seriously hope Boobs gets ROY, that dudes works harder than anybody I know and his game is proof of that.

I don't think anyone can argue that Boobs is the ROY. I want to know Why he did not make Team Champion?

the reason I believe all those golfers are so great are becuase of the great courses. If you can play well at Reny, or the Hornets Nest, you can be good ANYWHERE!

Example: Michael Jo

But all of the names that sd listed rarely ever play those courses. Raleigh has some very high quality courses.

as far as the wind goes I will play anybody in the wind, We have a tourney out here that will rival most any windy spot in the WORLD, The course is Richlands sTTeed park.....normal scores average around 8 to 10 under par, when the wind blows, the average score goes to 2 to 3 over par. A few weekends ago there was a tourney there and the HOTT round was -4, I hold the course record their with a -14 with a bogey. Bring on the wind you mullets.