What do you all think? Before they create a disc theres gotta be a shot that needs to be made... Whats missing? disc-wise, bag-wise, basket, etc. Will manufacturers start making discs extremely specific to specialty shots? will there be ratings based on rolling characteristics? or more in-depth breakdowns for discs made specially for tomahawks? what do you think?
Today I saw Rodney Kiaha's latest version of a "disc picker-upper"...no bending required. :)
Shoes designed specifically for disc golf....That would be next on my list. I have at least 3 different pairs I wear right now because I can't decide which is the best.
stevemaerz
Sep 14 2005, 12:10 PM
I think bags that have specialized divider/compartments would be great.
Today courses are getting longer and more strenuous. Rounds are taking a lot longer to play. There is an increased need to carry non-disc items such as food, beverages, first aid items,sunscreen,insect repellent, poison ivy wash as well as raingear, towels and birdie bags.
Bags that incorporate small insulated areas for food would be good. I also expect to see improvements in the disc golf pull cart product line. While we have an increased need to carry everything and the kitchen sink, the bags are getting heavier due to these needs so the take it all with you pull cart may increase in popularity.
junnila
Sep 14 2005, 12:37 PM
The millions of dollars large corporations could put into R&D.
I would say shoes would be one of the bigger needs. The problem that manufacturers may have will be due to the different types of tee surfaces. After playing tennis yesterday, I'm wondering if court shoes would work for concrete tees. Of course, when I step on a thorn, I'll wish I had my thick-soled Merrils.
One problem we have with down here is heat; clothing like undergear that is made with the cool max technology works well. I figure clothing may be region specific though.
Does anybody know if shoe companies are looking at the disc golf community at all?
Lyle O Ross
Sep 14 2005, 12:41 PM
Professional Grade Courses and the subsequent removal of low grade courses...
There are great discs out there, there are great baskets out there, and there are great bags out there. But there is no real way, given our current stucture, to push course development in a big way. Some of the stuff being done by Chuck and his cohorts is very good but it does not have a nationwide impact...
What about throwing aides? Some sort of disc that doesn't have to be tournament legal that would help with throwing technique. Something that would totally die if thrown with any off axis torque or not enough nose down or something would be cool.
gnduke
Sep 14 2005, 01:23 PM
That's a great idea.
A disc golf trainer with instant and dramatic feedback.
Although I am happy just to have a local course (before I used to have to drive to Austin), tougher, more challenging courses would be great.
Also, improving current courses would make them more enjoyable. In the San Antonio area, the courses have benches, signs, and even a water fountain with a pet bowl attached! My local course doesn't even have grass in many areas, and the parts that do don't stay cut.
I believe this falls under the jurisdiction of parks and wildlife though.
md21954
Sep 14 2005, 02:16 PM
a putter that goes in the basket.
They make golf clubs with hinges the react to off axis backswings and other ball golf terms that I am not familiar with....So how about some sort of disc that has a regular rim for a small part of it, and then it kind of slides apart(up/down, left/right) showing you what went wrong on the throw, and then it could even have a long rope that connects to your wrist or belt loop or anything that way you can just reel it back in, instead of walking out and getting it everythrow. <=Wow, I'm lazy
Did that almost sound like a bixby post? If so, my apologies.
Furthur
Sep 14 2005, 02:42 PM
Shoes. Particulary ones that have a very reinfornced toe (Throw sidearm, and my toe drags when I release. I tear up a new pair of shoes in 2 months.)
Parkntwoputt
Sep 14 2005, 03:22 PM
Shoes.
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This word looks funny when typed multiple times. :)
primetime
Sep 14 2005, 03:28 PM
Shoes. Particulary ones that have a very reinfornced toe (Throw sidearm, and my toe drags when I release. I tear up a new pair of shoes in 2 months.)
I 2ND THAT. I wear out the tip of my left shoe every year playing Disc Golf.
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Nelle 18131
Sep 14 2005, 03:30 PM
I do the same thing, and concrete tee pads shred them in about 6 months. I now have decided my shoes are disposable and stopped searching high and low for the ones that wouldnt do it. Buy the cheapies and throw them out, sucks.
Re-inforced toes would be great. I have found that Vans skateboarding or BMX shoes hold up the longest for me in the toes, plus they are hella comfortable. I pick them up on sale at Kohl's for about $20.
I've seen Pat Sweeney wear an external toe reinforcement--I believe it's meant for Baseball Pitchers. He said it was quite inexpensive. ;)
Has anyone mentioned "Shoes" :o
That would be something I'd buy right now.......
What I was thinking I'd like to have is a big net that I could throw into so I wouldn't have to shag my practice drives....sure I couldn't tell how far & well the disc flew, but I think I could tell if I threw it "right"
Maybe put a radar on it....so you can see how fast you are releasing it. (of course this would raise the cost substantially)
If anyone uses this idea.......you heard it here first. I want a $1.00 for each one you sell. :D
Boneman
Sep 14 2005, 05:55 PM
I do know of one company that is working on a specialized disc golf shoe. Can't give anymore information out at this time ... It's still on the drawing board.
If you have suggestions go to this tread and add them! Ultimate Discgolf Shoe? (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=435017&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
That's great news.
I was thinking of getting a net to throw into like the punters use to warm up with, but it would be just that: a warming up net as I would not be able to tell if I threw with the correct line or check distance. So it seemed pointless.
I love the idea of putting a radar on a disc to see what your rpms are. I believe there are baseballs that are designed to measure the speed of your pitch.
How about this for equipment:
We all have spare discs. If you are like me, they are scattered around the house or car. How about some kind of disc tower, like a cd tower but for frisbees!
Is it sad that I am really giving this thread this much thought?
Sure you could stack them up on top of each other, but a tower so that you could easily pull one out of the middle of the stack would be a great idea.
Also, a tower would keep discs from flattening too much.
I think we are seriously lacking in the high speed overstable, low speed understable disc department...
discs with homing/blinking/audible devices in them to make finding them much easier, i know..not legal, but still cool /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
RF ID chips in the discs. So your scanner could tell you what bush it's hidden behind, and your scanner could tell you how far and how fast your threw it. No more lost discs.
that'd solve a few what's missings :o
Furthur
Sep 14 2005, 08:15 PM
I've seen Pat Sweeney wear an external toe reinforcement--I believe it's meant for Baseball Pitchers. He said it was quite inexpensive. ;)
Thanks, I am going to get some more info at a sporting goods store later in the week.
I bought some North face shoes (model=Brice) but I dont think that model is made anymore, anyway, they have VIBRAM soles. They are made/patented by a seperate company and are avialable in many different brands of shoes. They are supposed to be ultra durable. Anybody have any experience with them? I was told all vibram soles say it in the bottom. Also, I saw someone selling a disc net somewhere....
ck34
Sep 14 2005, 10:37 PM
They had a nice warmup net at Nockamixon during the Worlds. Not sure if it was a commercial product or a prototype someone assembled. There was a target area visually identified in the middle section so you could aim and see whether your shot was on line, something particularly important on that course.
It's not equipment, but what I think is missing is are frequent clinics or schools focusing on technique. These could be little half-hour clinics offered by local clubs, or full weekend professional programs with video feedback and all the goodies. Whatever. I just want instruction, and I'm willing to pay for it. I can't be alone in this...
idahojon
Sep 15 2005, 12:05 AM
What I was thinking I'd like to have is a big net that I could throw into so I wouldn't have to shag my practice drives....sure I couldn't tell how far & well the disc flew, but I think I could tell if I threw it "right"
Maybe put a radar on it....so you can see how fast you are releasing it. (of course this would raise the cost substantially)
If anyone uses this idea.......you heard it here first. I want a $1.00 for each one you sell. :D
Actually, EDGE has had a set up like this for a couple years, using it at educational conferences and teacher workshops. The net has a spring steel frame, kind of like those windshield sun protectors. It packs into a duffel bag about 30 inches square and 6 inches thick. Less than $150.
We also got a radar gun and use it as a fund raiser at Flymarts at World's and elsewhere.
Now...about those $1.00's???? :D:D:D
DOH! See great minds often think faster than other great minds. Guess I'm gonna lose out on a lot of dollars :)
About the instruction clinics Mark mentioned. Yes, I would pay for some instruction time. I've often been this close < - > to asking someone I saw ripping drives if they'd be interested but never have. They'd probably think I was crazy.
I'm sure if I went to some of the weekly "best shots" we have around here it'd help, but I'd want some one on one time.
tbender
Sep 15 2005, 11:10 AM
I bought some North face shoes (model=Brice) but I dont think that model is made anymore, anyway, they have VIBRAM soles. They are made/patented by a seperate company and are avialable in many different brands of shoes. They are supposed to be ultra durable. Anybody have any experience with them? I was told all vibram soles say it in the bottom. Also, I saw someone selling a disc net somewhere....
I wear Merrell's that use Vibram soles. They are harder than regular soles, but do hold up very well to wear, attempted punctures from thorns/limbs, etc. Wore out my first pair in a year (40+ tourneys plus leagues, etc.) as the sole separated from the shoe (at the inside heel area on the left shoe --- my plant foot LHBH) due to use/abuse. The tread was fine, it wasn't attached completely to the rest of the shoe...
You are not alone; I think clinics or some kind of disc camp would get more people involved in the sport.
Merril's have vibram souls. I have mixed feelings about it. They make the shoe stiff and are tough on your heels, but they are so thick that thorns cannot punch through to your feet. I guess it's a trade off. I'm not even worried about durability; I like the fact that I don't have to worry about stepping on glass or thorns.
Several years ago, I was taking a few people that wanted to learn and teaching them basics. I would just tell them to get them self a driver (and a putter if they could afford it, if not I'd let them throw one of mine). Now that I have more discs collected, I let people borrow stuff all the time, and if I know for a fact that they cannot afford it, I give them my older stuff that I don't throw any more (and that doesnt have sentimental value).
One of the local players saw it as a money-making opportunity. He ordered a bunch of discs in bulk. His lessons, according to him, were free, but people had to buy the discs from him.
The only problem with this was that he was too intense. Sometimes we forget that a novice may not be able to throw a straight shot (or hyzer or anny) for big D. None of the people he taught are still playing.
Many of the people that started out with me still play, including ex-wives and girlfriends.
sandalman
Sep 15 2005, 12:17 PM
Chacos also have Vibram soles, but are not overly stiff at all.
I need to purchase more shoes for when I play consecutive days. Sandal, where did you get chacos?
I'm also thinking of ordering some soloman's. As much as I like sandals, I'm worried about tearing up my feet on thorny bush or cactus.
I'm not an expert, but I believe I've run into poisen oak too.
esalazar
Sep 15 2005, 12:55 PM
You are not alone; I think clinics or some kind of disc camp would get more people involved in the sport.
sign me up!! its a great idea!! I know stokely held clinics at one time!! Is there any other clinic/camp type disc golf activities?
A disc camp would be awesome. Can you imagine a weekend of nothing but disc golf. *drool*
There are still things I need to learn, like thumbers. Really my sidearm throws never developed.