Alright, everyone has posted which disc they feel is the best driver. How about everyones opinion of what is the most inconsitent disc out?

IMO it is the DX orc. This disc just can't decide what it wants to do. This thing flips like mad even in heavy weights. I've tried to like this disc but just can't. Very good distance but not a lick of accuracy or anything else.

Most inconsistent Driver for me would have to be any Champion Beast i've thrown. All the ones i've thrown are way too touchy.

Probably even more inconsistent would be the Pro Orc i bought. IT was a first run made of that reeally crappy plastic and it folded in 1 hit. THen it as so flippy you coudl roll it off of an extreme Hyzer.

-Scott Lewis

Valkyrie

Valkyrie



I am surprised at that....For me right now I would have to say Pro Starfire...It goes far, but I have no idea where it is gonna go.

I have thrown both the pro orc, and pro wraith. They both go really far, and I really liked the wraith at first, but after throwing it for a few days now it is just to inconsistant for me. Sticking to teebirds for now, and a champion orc for 475 foot plus throws.

Alright, everyone has posted which disc they feel is the best driver. How about everyones opinion of what is the most inconsitent disc out?

IMO it is the DX orc. This disc just can't decide what it wants to do. This thing flips like mad even in heavy weights. I've tried to like this disc but just can't. Very good distance but not a lick of accuracy or anything else.


The DX roc is my favorite disc ever ! I throw 500 feet plus, and the DX roc is very predictable and controlable. Maybe your technique is off when throwing this disc.

Valkyrie



Ditto.....I could never get it to fly the same way twice. The Flash is 2nd. (Give me a Teebird anyday!)

PT Woods
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I have a first run 170g Flash that can anny in the slightest wind in the drop of a hat. It is a long anny, but it comes out at all the wrong times.

Alright, everyone has posted which disc they feel is the best driver. How about everyones opinion of what is the most inconsitent disc out?

IMO it is the DX orc. This disc just can't decide what it wants to do. This thing flips like mad even in heavy weights. I've tried to like this disc but just can't. Very good distance but not a lick of accuracy or anything else.


The DX roc is my favorite disc ever ! I throw 500 feet plus, and the DX roc is very predictable and controlable. Maybe your technique is off when throwing this disc.



Bob, I think you misread this. He said dx Orc not Roc. And I have to agree with him both the Dx and Pro Orc's are way too inconsistent to earn a spot in my bag.

Epic.

thread over! :D

I think the Epic won the Worst disc ever thread..

But as far as consistency goes, I would say either the Valkrie or the Flash.

Some times the Valkrie was a roller, sometimes it was a Firebird, it could never make up its mind. Sometimes it would not even flip into a head wind.

Ditto on the Flash, but it ended up being a great interm distance roller for me until I learned to control roll my Leopard.

Most INconsistent driver?




That's REALLY easy. Any disc I throw. :D

haha. im with ya oldtyme. im only accurate with my midranges, but out of the drivers that i have used the Champion Leopard was the most inconsistent. it seems to throw different every time, and im sure it WAS partly my form, but i can throw my Beast and Teebirds fairly consistently. They may not go where i THOUGHT i threw them, but they still act the same in the air. Even my TL which is uncontrollably flippy will flip exactly how i expect it too every time.

I can't beleive no one has said Sidewinder. I do see some good shots with them, but also some HORIBLE ones. I never see anyone throw more than 2 good shots in a row with them. Seems like a really squirly disc to me.

I can't beleive no one has said Sidewinder. I do see some good shots with them, but also some HORIBLE ones. I never see anyone throw more than 2 good shots in a row with them. Seems like a really squirly disc to me.



You have to practice a little more with the Sidewinder than other discs but once you understand it you won't play without it.

PT Woods
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I think the Epic won the Worst disc ever thread..

But as far as consistency goes, I would say either the Valkrie or the Flash.

Some times the Valkrie was a roller, sometimes it was a Firebird, it could never make up its mind. Sometimes it would not even flip into a head wind.

Ditto on the Flash, but it ended up being a great interm distance roller for me until I learned to control roll my Leopard.



Remember that inconsistancy is in the application. My flash (166g first run) sucks as a straight driver, but when the disc has to hold a long anne, it's nice. It also rolls like a 16 year old at a rave.

People don't seem to be able to control the epic BH or FH, but I've seen a lot of people who can throw it quite well overhand.

I agree with the Valk... It just never goes where I expected it to. It was replaced with the Viking which is a great disc.

Let's see.

The Valk - 2nd runs have flights similar to firebirds. The 3rd and 4th runs are flippy out of the box.

The JK's differ in stability based on the run as well.


Other inconsistent discs....

1. Viking (the zippers are stable as well as some others I've thrown, some are flippy)
2. Flash (stability different by color)

You have to practice a little more with the Sidewinder than other discs but once you understand it you won't play without it.



Glad to hear ya say that. I just got a 174g Clear Sidewinder and tommorow will be my first day throwing it.
I plan on taking just it and my Cheetah (for tomahawks) and my putter tommorow. I will force myself to learn it :D
Hope it lives up to the superglidy hype that everyone talks about.

Of the ones I throw, it's the Flash. But once in a while I still use it because of its ability to reach a hole that my others might fall short of.
Since I never throw the Flash on any hole under 400, probably another reason for my inconsistent results.

By far my most inconsistent would be an ArchAngel. I have not found anyway to throw it that it is consistent. Backhand, forehand, roller, or even overhand because sometimes it will flip completely around and glide back left!!
My prostarfire is always fading left, my epic will roll like crazy, and the Valk always makes a good overhand shot.
The Archangel will just not do anything consistent, except what you don't want it to do!!! :(

this thread is ridiculous.

a disc, thrown twice the same way in thesame conditions, WILL necessarily fly the same both times.

if a disc flies differently, its because either the thrower threw it differently or the conditions are different.

Maybe I should send you my ArchAngel and see what you think. No person can throw EXACTLY the same everytime, but a small change should not make a drastic change in disc flight.

good point Pat.... perhaps the poll should be - what disc is the hardest to throw the same way twice....

I can't beleive no one has said Sidewinder. I do see some good shots with them, but also some HORIBLE ones. I never see anyone throw more than 2 good shots in a row with them. Seems like a really squirly disc to me.



You have to practice a little more with the Sidewinder than other discs but once you understand it you won't play without it.




I get the concept...like I said I have seen good shots with them, but at the same time I've seen good golfers (Who have been throwing it for some time now) make some horrible shots.

...and no, I think I'll be able to play w/o it. :D

Alright, everyone has posted which disc they feel is the best driver. How about everyones opinion of what is the most inconsitent disc out?

IMO it is the DX orc. This disc just can't decide what it wants to do. This thing flips like mad even in heavy weights. I've tried to like this disc but just can't. Very good distance but not a lick of accuracy or anything else.


The DX roc is my favorite disc ever ! I throw 500 feet plus, and the DX roc is very predictable and controlable. Maybe your technique is off when throwing this disc.



Bob, I think you misread this. He said dx Orc not Roc. And I have to agree with him both the Dx and Pro Orc's are way too inconsistent to earn a spot in my bag.


Oops, sorry. The DX and Pro Orc are very inconsistent discs. The champion orcs are decent. I thought you had said DX Roc.

this thread is ridiculous.

a disc, thrown twice the same way in thesame conditions, WILL necessarily fly the same both times.

if a disc flies differently, its because either the thrower threw it differently or the conditions are different.


Not really. Throw a Pro Wraith,Orc,Starfire etc. once,hit a tree and see how it flies next time.
A couple little dings in the rim, the disc will not fly the same. Now, take a Champion Teebird or something similar and hit a tree, still flies the same as it did before, dont have to worry about the dings in the rim because the plastic holds up so well. Yes, a brand new disc thrown the same way in the exact same conditions will fly the same.

For me the discs that are designed to fly the farthest are the least forgiving. They go super far sometimes, super right sometimes, and super left sometimes. I think the farthest flying disc that is still really consistent is the TeeBird, especially the KC plastic 9X, 10X but this new pro-line TeeBird which was supposed to replace 11X is a squirely piece of garbage especially after you hit one tree.

Bring back the TeeBird in real KC plastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For me the discs that are designed to fly the farthest are the least forgiving. They go super far sometimes, super right sometimes, and super left sometimes. I think the farthest flying disc that is still really consistent is the TeeBird, especially the KC plastic 9X, 10X but this new pro-line TeeBird which was supposed to replace 11X is a squirely piece of garbage especially after you hit one tree.

Bring back the TeeBird in real KC plastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I agree, however I have to exclude the Spirit from that list. Its overstable enough that it goes far and is predicable...hell all it does is hyzer, but its so fast I can still get it past most other discs.

I have a 145 DX Gazelle. I beat it up a bit when I was first learning too. I would say that particular disc is the most inconsistent disc around. Not the mold. The disc.

Most inconsistent driver award goes to the Innova Wolf.

(dis)honorable mention: Aerobie Epic

I cant believe how many people said the Valk is most inconsistent. I love them. I have in the bag, 2 CE Valks, JK Valk, DX Valk and they all fly really well and consistent for me.....

I 'll agree with that. The valk is one of the best discs i've ever thrown.I see a pattern in this thread with 98% of the inconsistant discs mentioned being understable or discs with a high turn number.

Well this is an opinionated Question and it's the opinion of many people on this board taht the Valkyrie is Very inconsistent.. I also have to agree.. I dont' care much for any discs that have a lot of HIghspeed turn (Beast,Valk,Archangel, ETC).. I'd rather throw a Flex shot with a Teebird to get that extra D that i would get by hoping a Valk won't turn too much....

Just an opinion..

-Scott Lewis

Any disc where you seek out a particular "run" is usually inconsistant. I have been guilty of this too, but then it was a matter of plastic versus run.

Is this a thread about inconsistancy or understability. I think the Dx Orc is very predictable... it flips over every single time I throw it. I love it!

the reason understable discs are suggested more is because they are not as forgiving as overstable discs. If you acidentally change your release even one degree, the understable plastic will fly more noticibly different compared to an overstable disc because they are more sensitive to these types of changes.

Well this is an opinionated Question and it's the opinion of many people on this board taht the Valkyrie is Very inconsistent.. I also have to agree.. I dont' care much for any discs that have a lot of HIghspeed turn (Beast,Valk,Archangel, ETC).. I'd rather throw a Flex shot with a Teebird to get that extra D that i would get by hoping a Valk won't turn too much....

Just an opinion..

-Scott Lewis


Same here. I love throwing the Teebird on very long holes with a slight anny angle and letting it do it's thing.

Definately the Orc. Not only can I not control it, players in my area that claim they love it can't control it.

I've had 2 flashes an orange one that was overstable, and a fly dye that I'm not sure what it was. I eventually flipped it into a lake throwing it hard. I haven't given up on the flash yet, but with other discs like the avenger and tracker coming up, there is almost no reason for me to replace it.

this thread is ridiculous.

a disc, thrown twice the same way in thesame conditions, WILL necessarily fly the same both times.

if a disc flies differently, its because either the thrower threw it differently or the conditions are different.


Not really. Throw a Pro Wraith,Orc,Starfire etc. once,hit a tree and see how it flies next time.
A couple little dings in the rim, the disc will not fly the same. Now, take a Champion Teebird or something similar and hit a tree, still flies the same as it did before, dont have to worry about the dings in the rim because the plastic holds up so well. Yes, a brand new disc thrown the same way in the exact same conditions will fly the same.



actually, sandalman is right, a disc will do the same thing every time....physics and logic will prove it. when you say 'after hitting a tree the disc will act differently' it is true but it is also no longer the disc you threw before it hit the tree. it still says the same thing on the stamp-- yet it is totally different aerodynamically. "a disc" implies the same disc in each throw.
I only say this because because it does prove the thread name to be decieving. We ARE talking about the disc that is more "touchy" than most. That being said, understable discs are the most touchy in that its hard to predict the length of the discs anhyser so... i would say my 150 valk is the most inconsistent disc i have thrown.

Definitely has to be my Pro Starfire...I normally throw my best drives to around the 400' range. There is a very fine line for me between throwing this and making it turn over and going close to 500' and having it take a hyzer line and setting down at about 400'. I never know where it's going to land.

Slo is correct; once a disc has a close encounter with an immovable object, it is changes. Thus, you are esentially throwing an altered disc.

I believe the intention of the thread was to discuss which discs were more unforgiving.