Aug 29 2005, 10:59 AM
ok im only thirteen but i can hit 250 on a good throwbut anyways

drivers
Champion Valkyrie 150g (i bought it for 5 bucks thinking i could flip it, but actullay its my #1 driver)
champion sidewinder 167g
beast 166g
valkryie 167g

midrange
lightning b2 stealth (dont relly use it much) 172
168 coyote(my drive on 175 or less holes)
172 classic roc

putters
174 champion avair p'n'a
176 aviar
171 jk pro aviar

anything i need to complete my bag?

twoputtok
Aug 29 2005, 11:00 AM
Its not whats in your bag but how you throw whats in your bag. If your comfortable with your set up it will work for you.

williethekid
Aug 29 2005, 11:54 AM
why do u have 3 putters in ur bag if u dont throw them off the tee? a stable putter is usually pretty versatile for approaches so i dont see the need for 3

Aug 29 2005, 01:24 PM
I would want a more overstable disc for power hyzer. Maybe an orc, viking, wildcat... If you like a valk, i'll bet you would like the viking even more. They are pretty similar, but the viking is more stable and glides a little less for me. It's more consistant.

circle_2
Aug 29 2005, 01:27 PM
Get a Gateway Demon G5i for when you want your shot to turn hard and fast...works great FH or BH.
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Sharky
Aug 29 2005, 02:08 PM
Get a stingray and a leopard. They will fill the gap between the classic roc/coyote and the sidewinder.

Aug 29 2005, 02:24 PM
I would tell you to remove the lightning mid, and pick up a real roc. Remove the champion aviar, and learn the other 2 for different shots (usually the JK would be for shorter shots to the left, and the regular aviar would be for shorter shots to the right or straight) Go to your school's football field, and start throwing at the goalpost!!!!!!

Aug 29 2005, 02:45 PM
Now that I think about it, if I was in a tourney I think I would rather be carrying less discs. Maybe 8 or so. Less variables and less weight too. I like to walk up to the tee or second throw and know what 1 disc I will throw rather then have to pick from 2-3 and over complicate things.

Parkntwoputt
Aug 29 2005, 03:03 PM
I like to walk up to the tee or second throw and know what 1 disc I will throw rather then have to pick from 2-3 and over complicate things.



I carry 20 discs, when I walk up to the teebox or lie, I know exactly what disc to throw, unless wind is a factor which will change the stability factor.

Know what you throw, go to a field and figure out your discs, there are tons out there besides Teebirds and Rocs.

Plus, it is the indian not the arrow. I can play just as good on my course with a beat up midrange as I can with my entire bag. The difference? I have to change my throwing style if I am only using 1 disc. So for me, the only variable that changes is my disc, my body remains the same throw to throw. Sometimes I vary my technique depending on trick shots or extreme holes.

Aug 29 2005, 03:29 PM
Overall, not a bad bag.

You have too many putters; keep the 176 and remove the others. I'm not sure about that Lightning midrange. I was going to recommend a straight midrange since you have an overstable one, but that may be what the coyote is.

Viking is like a valkerie without the glide; I carry one.

The only thing I would recommend is a more overstable disc. I have both a predator and a talon.

If you prefer Innova, I believe a firebird would be what you want.

The beast is overstable, so you may be set.

You don't really need a stingray if you have a sidewinder; that is also your roller disc.

Overall, you're good.

Aug 29 2005, 03:57 PM
The best way to evaluate your bag?

IMHO: Think of all the shots you might need on a given course or in a given round. Are there wind issues? Canopy issues? Water hazards? Elevation changes?
Now think of your discs. Do you have a disc you would be comfortable throwing in each situation you can think of.

Although this may seem daunting, I started doing this recently. It sounds tougher than it is. If you can think of all the shots you would feel comfortable throwing in a tournament (ie. Tomahawks, Thumbers, forehand, backhand, rollers, hyzers, anhyzers, etc.). Now do you have a disc that you are comfortable throwing for each shot? If you use one aviar for putting, one for hyzers, and one for anhyzers, don't take out one of them just because people tell you you carry too many putters. If you are willing to carry that back breaking 170 extra grams around (pure sarcasm here as a water bottle or sunscreen often add more weight to your bag than any disc will) I say go for it.

I carry a larger bag then some, but am constantly wittling out and putting back in different discs. If I learn a new shot with a different disc, that disc goes in the bag. If there is a particularly windy day, then I will add in some more overstable plastic and may remove some other plastic.

I think your bag looks fairly good. You have two Valkyries in different weights to give varying stability. You have a more understable driver(Sidewinder) and something more overstable(Beast). I have no clue how the lightning disc flies, but with the other two midranges, you have two quality mids in there. You putter assortment is good in that you have three discs with the same mold and differing beads for different stabilities. That should help you maintain a consistent release between those three discs.

Personally, I might consider a midrange with a bit more overstability. That is mostly because it is perpetually windy here. But, to tell you the truth I have been finding I use my mid ranges less and less as I have been playing.

I still say your bag is good. If you are close to tournament time it might be too late to learn a new disc. If you have other discs you know how to throw and know what they fly like, you could consider them.

Aug 29 2005, 08:22 PM
i cant believe you guys are advising the kid to get a firebird or a predator! I gaurantee his beast too overstable for him... If he is throwing 250 (which is great for 13) his heavy valk probably acts like a firebird. I dont mean to bash but all I see on this board is different guys bashing newbies for throwing fast, overstable discs! didn't mean to get all serious.. as pertaining more to the thread-- the bag looks good-- a kc pro roc might do you wonders and could provide some overstability in a better form.

paerley
Aug 29 2005, 09:26 PM
Another great disc is a Champion Stingray. I got one for somone and she can rip it dead straight 250-300 feet. The lightest I could find was a 176 or something like that, but she still has no troubles with it. The extra weight might actually be good because she is just getting to the point that she's turning discs over(a lot of lighter discs).

Aug 30 2005, 01:33 AM
The champion Stingray is Unfortunately Discontinued so it may not be a good idea to fall in love with that disc as a replacement will become very hard soon..

I say the bag looks pretty good.. I also dont know much about the lightning disc, but IF you know what each disc will do when you throw it then you are set.
If you have discs that you can Perform all the Shots that you "know" you can do and will do then i say you are alright.

-Scott Lewis

stevemaerz
Aug 30 2005, 01:52 AM
Like everyone else said you don't need three putters. Go with one and may be a back up.

I don't know your style or if you throw rollers or sidearms.
You're okay on the drivers.
I'm not sure what you do with the stealth. Is that your turnover mid range?
I'd add a flippy mid range like a stratus and probably a dx leopard for finesse backhand rollers.
Put a birdie bag in your bag to absorb moisture off your fingers before putting. Grab a towel or two and an energy bar and you're good to go.

friysch
Aug 30 2005, 02:05 AM
At 13, I would say for the tournament to only throw the discs you are most comfortable with. Don't carry 4 drivers if you throw your 150 valk on every drive. No need to complicate things or give yourself more options than you need. I'd keep either the heavier valk or the beast in there for something that you can throw into a headwind to keep the disc from turning right on you.

For the mids, the Coyote is probably a great disc for you right now. Don't overcomplicate things here if you can throw it straight for most of its flight. No need to go buying new midrange discs yet.

The putters seem ok. I'm not a fan of the champion aviars for putting, but they seem to be good for short up shots or drives.

Number one priority for your tourney I would say is to make sure you throw the discs you know the best for every single shot. Don't complicate things with multiple options. The longer I play, the fewer discs I turn to in order to make consistent shots.

Matt

Aug 30 2005, 01:27 PM
I have a tourn. next weekend, and want to lighten my bag a little, but still get in a few practice rounds using only the discs I keep...here's what I have now, In order of left to right in my bag....

173-174 Black D Challenger
173 Pro Rhyno(soon to be replaced by another challenger)
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174 #2 Driver
173 DX Eagle
174 G5i
168 First Run Pro TB
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171 Z-Predator
173 Champ. Beast
174 Dx Viking
173 Z-Crush
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174 Z-Wasp
174 Dx Roc
1?? Dx Roc
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2 Towels
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Digital Camera
Too many Minis
Water Bottle
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Water Bottle
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4 sharpies (I lend them out a lot)
3 pencils
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"Decorations" on my shoulder strap (bag tag, chain links, 'VooDoo' dolls, small flash light for no reason at all)

Aug 30 2005, 01:51 PM
For the person that said the beast is too overstable for him:

I believe most of us our thinking that if he is good enough to enter a tournament, he probably has the arm for an overstable driver. He is already using a beast. Something like a predator would be a good disc for windy conditions.

If he is right, then you do need to stick to stable/understable discs. Maybe an xpress.

Aug 30 2005, 01:54 PM
If the beast is too stable, maybe an XL or Leopard would work good. I loved both of those when I was starting out.

Sharky
Aug 30 2005, 02:08 PM
Always carry an extra putter, always, doesn't everyone know that?

Aug 30 2005, 06:37 PM
Use once driver and one putter. :D