Wonder how people aim their Discs at the basket ?? Whether it be a tee off or mid range shot..........
Personally, it depends which Disc I use. Much like Pro stick Golfers I rarely take dead aim at target. Its usually a little to the left with my ROC at a midrange shot. And the same with my Sidewinder on longer approach shots.My Orc on tee off is usually aimed to the right of Target and it will usually have a slight fade at end.
And my 175 Valk for long controlled shots I throw an anyhzer flip. Aim just barely to the right of target. Throw a hard anny angle. Watch it start off to the right and then flip back to left at end.
I don't know if anyone else does this but let me ask something. For each of my 8 molds I use, when I aim I will have a certain degree I will aim away from the target. For instance, my short Upshots I use my 175g Aviar Approach and Putt. When I aim to throw I hold my arm out and count over about three Disc lengths to the left of target.
With my Roc which is less understable I count over 2 Discs lengths to the left of target.
In a tight fairway with woods, I will take out my Sidewinder and aim the Disc about 3 lengths left from the middle of fairway. I will then reach back and release a Hyzer angle throw. Since this Disc is soo understable it will still start off a little right. But since I have a combination of Hyzer angle and my aim is 3 lengths to the left of fairway I can usually go right down middle of fairway.
This seems to give me correct aim over a period of time. And takes the guessing work out of the game.
Does anyone else do anything like this when trying to get accuracy and consistency in their aim ??
P.S. Anyway, glad I have to only worry about keeping my up knowledge and wisdom with the 8 Discs I use and their flight characterisics. I guess I see where the popular Mantra of sticking with a few and learning them inside and out is the ultimate way to go
ferretdance03
Aug 22 2005, 01:01 PM
i guess it depends on the line i have towards the basket or landing zone i am aiming for. if it is completely open (not likely) i may do something like you said, but more than likely I am aiming to hit a particular hole beside a tree or over a bush, or just a visual hole i create to end up where i need to be. generally i don't really use the basket as my target until i am 200ft or less. when i am putting is about the only time i have a very specific target, usually one chain link on the right side of the basket about 4-5 links from the top.
Parkntwoputt
Aug 22 2005, 02:42 PM
I usually visualize the easiest route to the basket factoring in elevation, wind and obstacles, and then select a disc that is best suited to fly that particular route/distance. Then I just throw it down that imaginary line I have in my head.
The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, I try to take a line drive route at the target if at all possible.
Now granted, after only playing for 18 months, I don't always get my brain and hand to communicate with each other. So I may have an intended route, and then the route I actually take.
But also remember, that where your ankle is pointing is where you will be throwing it. Basically you would want your plant foot at a perfect 90 degrees perpendicular to your intended target or route.
And advice of all for aiming. Practice practice practice.
gnduke
Aug 22 2005, 02:59 PM
I'd have to agree with Kris, I pick the line I am going to be throwing on first, then the disc. If it is an open hole, I aim at an imaginary spot about 100' away, if it is a tight course, I aim at the hole I am trying to hit.
On shot selection, I always try to throw with a low flat to slight hyzer release.
....where your ankle is pointing is where you will be throwing it.
That is a good way of thinking of it as I try to picture driving a disc. I will have to remember this...of course as you rotate, the ankle change where it is pointing, but I think I get what you are saying...
WVOmorningwood
Aug 22 2005, 04:14 PM
I have been teaching a 4 year old to play and the one thing I keep telling her is "Aim your feet" when she does make an errant throw I show her that it went exactly where her feet were aiming
The only aim trick I have learned so far is for annie roc shots. If I have a tight gap less than a 100' in front of the tee and I need to annie through this gap, I have to aim at the inside tree (tree on the right) or else I will hit the outside tree. The distance from the tee to the gap is the factor that determines how tight/wide I bring it thru the gap. If the distance is 20', I have to aim at the inside tree. If it is 60' to the gap, I aim at the left edge of the inside tree. This is just a basic guide I use, there can be many other factors.
I agree with Park'n'twoputt...
Picture the line that the disc needs to fly to get to the target. Then grab the disc most likely to follow that line.
I aim with both the feet, and the weight of the disc as it gets heavy in the pull through ... then it's a simple matter of putting it on the beginning of the line that leads to the basket.
I'm actually better at putting it on my imaginary line to the target than I am and finding the best possible line to the target.
As he said, the simplest is usually a line drive straight to the target .... I always seem to overcomplicate this simple wisdom simply because I don't have a long arm, so I try to stretch out my drives by throwing helix or hyzer flip routes that go just a bit further, but mess with my accuracy.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AIM? :confused:
That explains a lot.
tbender
Aug 22 2005, 06:49 PM
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AIM? :confused:
That explains a lot.
The basket is a target, not an obstacle....
esalazar
Aug 22 2005, 07:53 PM
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AIM? :confused:
That explains a lot.
The basket is a target, not an obstacle....
unless you have been to the atwood school of putting!! :p
re-reading your initial post, it seems more like you are rating the stability of your discs and comparing how they will turn as they slow down.
I know my discs very very very well. How much farther this disc will turn left compared to that disc is completely intuitive to me.
You may want to be careful with absolute numbers, such as two discs widths to the left, as the amount of fade on a disc is very dependant on both the speed it's thrown as well as heigth and nose angle.... the straightest disc in your bag will hyzer hard if you throw it sky high, nose up and slow.
So bear in mind that stability is variable.
It is very hard to aim when you are wearing slip-on shoes (ie. Merrel Jungle Mocs) . Darn foot rotates early stealing distance and
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pterodactyl
Aug 23 2005, 01:28 AM
Don't aim it, throw it.
I just try to have my disc at a certain angle 30, maybe 40 feet off the tee and if I put it on THAT angle correctly, the rest will take care of itself....
You're SUpposed to aim?
****.. that might be my problem.
I don't really Throw for "imaginary lines" or holes 100 feet away when i play. I usulaly look at the Basket and try and see how i can get there.. My problem is that I tend to throw the shot required without actually aiming it. I"m so used to throwing certain shots that i Seem to always bee looking toward the basket when i throw a Hyzer or anny. I know the hyzer will come back at the target so when i throw a hyzer i throw it out to the right of my "Target"..
Maybe i should start hitting "holes and lines".
anyway... I agree with trying to plant your foot at 90Degrees and i can say that TOo much of a degree will cause many problems. For a while i was planting my foot over 100Degrees from my target and on annies as much as 135.
NOw i actually plant my foot Less than 90(or at least i think so) and it's made a tremendous difference.. I have much more distance and accuracy because i dont' hae to fight to get the disc all the way around my body from underplanting.
Just thought i'd add that. I"m tired.
-Scott Lewis
adogg187420
Aug 26 2005, 04:34 AM
Im not a 1000 rated+ pro, but this should help you...when I am aiming at a specific target, I am aiming directly at the left most target, such as a tree, stump, whatever..., by the time I am aiming at that tree and i release, my wrist rolls through towards the target, aiming at a straight release...i know it doesnt sound like it makes sense, but try it.... if it is a 300 foot hyzer hole, aim at the left-most tree and try to throw directly into it, you wrist will roll thru and the disc will be thrown straight to the target...if not, try, try again....
ChrisWoj
Sep 10 2005, 06:45 AM
So your throw is effed up and instead of fixing your throw you just aim wrong. Nice.
So your throw is effed up and instead of fixing your throw you just aim wrong. Nice.
how is this messed up? do all your discs fly perfectly straight the whole time? you have to compensate for fade, and high speed turn. knowing that a disc will end up 5 feet left or right of where you threw it is fine. as long as you take this into consideration while throwing.
discraft_elite
Sep 12 2005, 07:54 PM
I've done it for so long that it's been engrained and I don't even notice it any more. It comes from old softball habit that I was taught to help figure out where you're going to throw the ball. I tend to throw RH side arm, and when I'm doing my footwork on my release, I extend my left arm and in essence, point to where I'm aiming. With time, it's integrated itself into my throw, and isn't so profound, but I notice I do the same thing in bowling.
Thats at least 3 sports where it's helped me. Can't be all that bad of a technique. Just a suggestion, along with everybody else on here. Take it with a grain of salt. What works for me, might not work for you. Good Luck!
adogg187420
Sep 12 2005, 07:59 PM
So your throw is effed up and instead of fixing your throw you just aim wrong. Nice.
No, im looking and aiming at the left side of the target, but still throwing straight. My arm still comes and follows through straight.
dischawk20
Sep 15 2005, 01:27 PM
I also try and see the flight path i want my disc to take before i throw it and that seems to be working well for me so far.
What about aiming while putting though? I truly stink at putting... half the time its b/c of my grip, half the time b/c of where I aim.
Where is the best place to aim when putting, not factoring wind or anything?
cbdiscpimp
Sep 15 2005, 01:31 PM
I always try and aim at the very top of the pole. Im trying to minimize everything I do before I putt as well. Im trying to get to the point where I just mark my disc pick my spot on the pole and putt. I find the faster I putt the less chance I have to talk myself out of making the putt :D
discgolfreview
Sep 15 2005, 02:23 PM
What about aiming while putting though? I truly stink at putting... half the time its b/c of my grip, half the time b/c of where I aim.
Where is the best place to aim when putting, not factoring wind or anything?
imo, a lot of this is based upon your putting style. with my putting style i aim with my body (i put my right foot in front and connect a line through it between the pole and the center of my chest) and then choose the height i wish my putt to peak at that is necessary for the given distance to hit the upper half of the chains on a slightly downward trajectory.
on longer putts that i cannot take a straight run at i change my method of aiming, but i don't really have any general method for that.
if you hyzer putt, flex putt, putt nose up, throw putt, etc. you will likely need a different method of aiming than i outlined above, but i still promote using reference points in your stance to give yourself a foundation of aiming, regardless of stance/style.
dischick
Sep 15 2005, 02:30 PM
i always try to pick out one link on the left side of the basket. i find that when i take my time, and try to focus and line up, i dont make it, thoughts get in the way. but when i just take a quick practice swing then let go, it always has a higher chance of goin in. but the biggest part of putting is definately the confidence though. i have watched so many people when they walk up to their shot say "i cant make this" and chances are they dont. with the right attitude and confidence level you should beable to make any shot.
As a Righthanded Player that PushPutts I aim for the a Chain LInk on the Upper right side of the pole...
I aim high because I have a tendency to putt nose down and if I aim up it will help counter that or at least make a bad putt and made putt.
I aim to the right because as a righty you should probably do that anyway. It will lead to the least amount of pop-outs no matter what your style.
-Scott Lewis
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Chicinutah
Sep 16 2005, 02:55 AM
Ah, yes. Putting. I have found there is only one thing to fix putting. Practice, practice and more practice. As Stokely( I believe) said practice makes permanent. The most useful articles I've read were written by Blake on disc golf review. Since I read these I have adopted a "short arm putt" . I like to focus on the middle of the pole, dead center. Outside of thirty, top of the pole. If you really want to improve your putting, I would recommend an hour a day 4-5 days a week min. <font color="purple"> </font>