Birdie
Aug 08 2005, 03:39 PM
Does anyone know a way to break in a Champ Beast in under a week or less? I am talking a 174-175 Champ from new to slightly beat-up more understable condition. If you are wondering, I lost my favorite driver on a lake course and I have Okie Doubles this weekend, otherwise I am going to be at a disadvantage. I can make do, but I just love the Beast. I have a backup driver but you know how that goes. You get a backup then take it out of your bag for some reason, then when you need it its not broken in...ahhh....
I've heard this mentioned before, but never tried it....wrap it in a towel (to protect against wounds) , then throw it into a brick wall quite a few times until it's desired flight path is reached.
ChunkyleeChong
Aug 08 2005, 03:55 PM
What I do is get within 25'-30' of a wall and work on my driving mechanics from my x step to my follow through in a slower motion to keep things smooth.The discs(I do 2-3 at a time for backups) hit the wall firmly yet dont kill the disc.They break in nicly this way and your practicing at the same time
scottsearles
Aug 08 2005, 04:02 PM
;) I have used BIG TREE'S you get about 15-20 feet away and just practice throwing Full on UD's & Thumber's it only takes about 10 throws or so :eek: works great and no real damage :D
no real damage to the disc? What about the tree? :eek:
scottsearles
Aug 08 2005, 04:06 PM
Marks on the tree yes but NO chunk's or anything like that. I'm talking big Douglas fir's not cedars,or elms or any that are thin skinned... :eek:
cbdiscpimp
Aug 08 2005, 04:07 PM
Find a wood fence and do what CE does. This will protect against GOUGE markds and slicing of the disc. If you use a brick wall you have to do alot of sanding to get the disc to be smooth again. Wood fences work the best though :D
scottsearles
Aug 08 2005, 04:09 PM
or while you are hanging out on the bench waitng for the group in front of you, you could smack it on that a few times while holding on to it......... :eek: :D
leave the tree's benches and walls alone.
What happens when you hit something hard... the disc taco's ... that is, it folds in half.
So, just fold it in half a few dozen times from different sides. No gouges, no slices, no damage to trees or benches or walls or fences either, and the disc is not quite as stable anymore.
Do it on the practice field, and you can tune it to your own needs. fold fold fold fold throw ... repeat as necessary until it's what you want.
I didnt think you could "tune" a disc by folding it. Its not an aerobie...
:)
Boneman
Aug 08 2005, 05:17 PM
I've tried the fold method for new pro and champion Leopards that I want to break in fast, and to be very understable. Worked great.
You probably want to make sure you test throw discs that you only want a little less stable, as mentioned above fold, fold, throw, until you get the desired amount of stability. In other words, don't over do it on a beast.
brookep
Aug 08 2005, 05:51 PM
Run it over with your car :D
Seriously we did that here in Ann Abor during the first 1 disc challenge. They were proto elite Wildcats overstable was an understatement.
tafe
Aug 09 2005, 03:58 PM
I have a trail in the forest preserve by my house that's a "breaking-in" trail. About 5-8 feet wide. All I do is try to keep the disc I wan't broken in on the trail as I'm throwing it. Usually about an hour or so does it for X Plastic. Champ might take a trip or two.
Nice thing about this is that I'm throwing it and getting used to it as I go. And I can stop whenever I think it's "there."
letho
Aug 10 2005, 12:56 PM
Slam it directly into the ground a few times with a thumber.
Greg_R
Aug 16 2005, 09:11 PM
What happens when you hit something hard... the disc taco's ... that is, it folds in half.
So, just fold it in half a few dozen times from different sides. No gouges, no slices, no damage to trees or benches or walls or fences either, and the disc is not quite as stable anymore.
Totally agree. I don't understand why everyone is slamming their discs into a wall. A few minutes of bending (edges toward to bottom) make it understable and a few bends toward the dome make it more stable. Simple to do and you still have a new disc.
vwkeepontruckin
Aug 17 2005, 02:48 AM
What happens when you hit something hard... the disc taco's ... that is, it folds in half.
So, just fold it in half a few dozen times from different sides. No gouges, no slices, no damage to trees or benches or walls or fences either, and the disc is not quite as stable anymore.
Totally agree. I don't understand why everyone is slamming their discs into a wall. A few minutes of bending (edges toward to bottom) make it understable and a few bends toward the dome make it more stable. Simple to do and you still have a new disc.
The only reason I say different, is b/c Gateway's "S" plastic retains shape better than DX...it naturally comes out of stuff like that...thus the reason I sometimes need some outside asstistance...IE a tree.
What happens when you hit something hard... the disc taco's ... that is, it folds in half.
So, just fold it in half a few dozen times from different sides. No gouges, no slices, no damage to trees or benches or walls or fences either, and the disc is not quite as stable anymore.
Totally agree. I don't understand why everyone is slamming their discs into a wall. A few minutes of bending (edges toward to bottom) make it understable and a few bends toward the dome make it more stable. Simple to do and you still have a new disc.
The problem I find with that is that many of the discs tend to bend themselves back while in my bag with the other discs. That tends to flatten them back out. Smashing the disc into a tree, wall or the ground will bend the rim of the disc which will affect the stability and won't bend back.
I'm still gonna stick with...have a semi run over it...my brother's a truck driver... it works well :)
I have broke in "New" Z Preds before in the dryer. The heat loosen ups the disc and the tumbling makes for great "easy" hits the the outer edge of the disc. When done the disc has no marks, and no taco'd shapes, brand new disc with use on it.
primetime
Aug 17 2005, 12:05 PM
I have broke in "New" Z Preds before in the dryer. The heat loosen ups the disc and the tumbling makes for great "easy" hits the the outer edge of the disc. When done the disc has no marks, and no taco'd shapes, brand new disc with use on it.
Just buy a Z-Avenger. :D
PT Woods
# 20431
my_hero
Aug 17 2005, 12:42 PM
Exactly!
Parkntwoputt
Aug 17 2005, 02:28 PM
Most of the stability of a disc comes from the bead, at least on midranges from what I understand. IE Buzzz = Beadless Wasp. Taking off the bead made the Wasp a "more broken in disc" and hence it was less stable. I have seen guys rub the bottoms of their Rocs on pavement to break them in, and then sand the rough edge. Or you can toss it down the street, let it land flat, and smooth out the rough parts.
Has this happend to anyone else? I have Rippled a disc.
I had a brand new DX Roc, custom stamped with a statue from the city I live in. First time I threw the disc, I released late, and the disc slammed into a tree at full speed. It did not fold or "taco" the disc. At the edge where it hit, there were sharp peaked waves on the disc. There were 3 waves! Now I threw this disc as hard as I could, it as a 350ft hole and at the time I think my top throwing speed was only somewhere in the mid 60's.
The disc became a very straight flyer, no turn no fade. I ended up trading it to a guy who really loves throwing Rocs. I was just wondering if this has happend to anyone else?
my_hero
Aug 17 2005, 02:39 PM
You must not remember Innova "Factor" discs. Ed Headrick would shave minute parts of the bead off with a record player type cutter. He then would stamp the disc "Factor 1", or "Factor 2" etc.....the higher the #, the more was shaved off. I remeber a lot of people throwing "factor" Whippets back in the day b/c the regular Whippet was too overstable for the masses.
Parkntwoputt
Aug 17 2005, 02:51 PM
Yeah you are right, I don't remember that. I have only been playing disc golf for 18 months.
But I do remember the guy who is coaching me, talk about Headrick factoring discs. It is not foriegn, I was just not around disc golf then.
I have broke in "New" Z Preds before in the dryer. The heat loosen ups the disc and the tumbling makes for great "easy" hits the the outer edge of the disc. When done the disc has no marks, and no taco'd shapes, brand new disc with use on it.
Just buy a Z-Avenger. :D
PT Woods
# 20431
I have a Z avenger, and it can't hold a beat up Z preds underwear in the wind. But again I live in kansas where the wind is 20mph on a calm day.
my_hero
Aug 17 2005, 03:16 PM
^^^ shouldn't you be at the post office mailing Holiday Buzzz's to me? ^^^ :D
Unfortanately, I am a employeed american citizen. :D
Did I mention that I was going through my discs and found another max weight holiday buzzz??? :cool:
my_hero
Aug 17 2005, 03:24 PM
Aw...man, another Holly. My mouth is watering. :)
Employed? Like me. Which means you pass 200 mailboxes on the way to work! :eek:
Come on man, this is kansas, AKA- "the sticks" you are lucky kansas even has a mail service. I pass one on my way to work, and hours are 9am-1pm. You have been spoiled in a metropolis for too long!!! :D
And yes another Holly, although this one has maybe five throws on it, and my name on the inner lip of the disc. Still interested??? You probally don't care considering emac is tossing a NICE Blue 1st run buzzz that says, "my hero" in little bitty letters on it. :D
my_hero
Aug 17 2005, 05:02 PM
You probally don't care considering emac is tossing a NICE Blue 1st run buzzz that says, "my hero" in little bitty letters on it.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
i'd be honored to throw a Holly with Leo D's siggy on it. :)