MTL21676
Aug 05 2005, 05:13 PM
So I saw in another thread about disc golf being mentioned in Zits today in the comics. But instead of disc golf, it says frisbee golf.

Now we all know the difference between a frisbee and a disc, but does the non-disc golf population??

We had a big discussion about media attention and disc golf and I along with a few others talked about how rough it was to have to explain disc golf in every article. What if we called it frisbee golf? Would the national audience be able to get a better understanding of our sport?

tbender
Aug 05 2005, 05:25 PM
One problem....

Whamo owns rights to the word Frisbee.

Which is why Ultimate Frisbee is technically Ultimate and the organization is the Ultimate Players Association.

slo
Aug 05 2005, 05:30 PM
Just use "Frisbie". ;)

Aug 05 2005, 05:33 PM
Heck, you would probably get better name recognition with folf! :eek:

sschumacher
Aug 05 2005, 05:55 PM
Drop the "s" and call it "Freebee Golf". ;)

Advertise as: "It's Free.....and it's where you want to be!" :D

Aug 05 2005, 05:56 PM
Is this all I need to do? :D

sschumacher
Aug 05 2005, 06:05 PM
Drop the "United". The last thing I need when I'm in the woods "with my disc in my hand" is have a bunch of people standing around.....watching. :D

xterramatt
Aug 05 2005, 06:28 PM
Phrisbee Golf?

slo
Aug 05 2005, 06:36 PM
...whilst we're at it, I don't follow the logic in replacing "stroke" with "throw"...besides eshewing the Bolf history it just doesn't sit well with my tongue's mind.

hawkgammon
Aug 06 2005, 10:42 AM
Just rename it football. That will generate some interest.

johnbiscoe
Aug 06 2005, 03:16 PM
Just rename it football. That will generate some interest.



football is already taken, but dripping hot sex golf is available. that should work too. :o

Aug 06 2005, 03:47 PM
Can you give us a link where we could view the comic?

hawkgammon
Aug 06 2005, 11:06 PM
football is already taken, but dripping hot sex golf is available. that should work too.




Now there's the thinking of a cutting edge tourney director! I'll start work on a logo immediately.

Aug 06 2005, 11:11 PM
football is already taken, but dripping hot sex golf is available. that should work too.




Now there's the thinking of a cutting edge tourney director! I'll start work on a logo immediately.



hello...posterchild here.

drdisc
Aug 07 2005, 01:19 AM
Steady Ed wanted to call it Frisbee Golf but Wham-O said NO. There is some very interesting reading about the "trademark" in Chapter 7(?) of Victor Malafronte's book, "The Complete History of Frisbee".
The history of disc golf is also included.

slo
Aug 07 2005, 02:09 AM
...something to do with Colorado?

"Frisbie". ;)

Aug 07 2005, 11:40 AM
The sport doesn't need renaming. It needs to be promoted.

There are plenty of ways to advertise/promote disc golf to take it to the next level.

Aug 07 2005, 12:16 PM
The Scrabble World Championships are being aired on ESPN.

That's right. A board game that consists of spelling words for points, gets coverage on a sports network, but the sport of disc golf isn't being covered by a sports network.

slo
Aug 07 2005, 03:30 PM
...two straight hour of "competitive eating" last week. :(

kvo
Aug 08 2005, 04:16 PM
The Scrabble World Championships are being aired on ESPN.

That's right. A board game that consists of spelling words for points, gets coverage on a sports network, but the sport of disc golf isn't being covered by a sports network.



After reading this I went to the National Scrabble Association website and found a contact name and sent the Director/Clubs & Tournaments an email which said

"Just curious I guess as to how and when you set up a relationship with ESPN to have this event aired."

He responded to me in less than 3 hours with this response

"We'd been talking to them for years. However, they suddenly felt the time was right.

Now they're going to produce a program at every NSC(National Scrabble Championship). We're moving up!"

I sure hope that the PDGA has been working on this as well. Who knows I was trying to find the thread from the last week where this was being discussed but it seems to have disappeared. :confused:

To bad. Hopefully I haven't doomed this thread to the same fate by posting this :(

Aug 08 2005, 04:52 PM
I havent seen the scrabble programs yet, but it sounds like the "right time" is right after the booming success of another table game's TV coverage, poker. But the reason that poker got huge on TV is not that everyone just started playing poker and watching out of the clear blue, but that ESPN (actually WPT did this first) started using a much better format for filming and viewing, using their Heads-up-display to show players' hands and all that. I think that any sport can be fun for anyone to watch, one just has to understand what exactly is going on, and what the goal of the competition is.

Sure DG'ers would LOVE to see DG on ESPN. But that's not going to bring in the viewers and $$ to ESPN. What we need is a format so that anyone in America could tune in and understand the goal and the challenge of the game, through a fun-to-watch format. It would have to be revolutionary and way different than all other sporting event coverage programs. Viewers tune in and watch the PGA because we understand what the challenge is. Only DG'ers would like to watch DG the way that BG is broadcast. we need a new, fun format. But I don't have any answers, I just know that the format of the program is what made WPT (and copying WPT: WSOP, Celebrity Poker Showdown, Poker Royale, US Heads up Championship, Poker Superstars Invt., the list goes on) so popular to watch on TV. Why couldn't Steve Lipscomb have been a Disc Golfer?

johnnyboge
Aug 08 2005, 05:03 PM
How about a Disc Golf reality show? Get a camera crew together and follow around the National Tour from Feb. right on thru the Worlds. If a TV audience will watch a show about people building motorcycles, why not people who tour around the US playing disc golf? All these shows are about is the drama and people interacting in different situations. Plenty of drama on tour. And just think of all the characters and personalities. Villains and heroes. Every one of these guys has a great story to tell. Now someone please steal this idea and make it happen.

klemrock
Aug 08 2005, 05:15 PM
I gawd, that reminds me of the 'Discs & Dorks' VHS video I bought a few years ago on ebay. What a HORRIBLE representation of the sport. I'm afraid that any non-competitive tv show might look like the basement segments of 'That 70s show'. :D

Aug 08 2005, 09:27 PM
300,000 people viewed the live scoring for the worlds finals, on this website.

I think a little over half the US population has a computer in the home, with internet access, but almost all homes have cable/satellite tv.

Imagine how large the number of tv viewers would have been, if worlds had been televised. A lot of disc golfers who don't have internet access could have viewed it, if it had been televised. The general public could have seen it listed in a program guide, or stumbled across it while channel surfing, and found it interesting and watched it. I think it's a safe assumption to say that over 1,000,000 people would have watched some part of worlds if it had been televised.

jdebois
Aug 08 2005, 11:44 PM
If Wham-O won't let us the term "Frisbee", we still would not be allowed to use similar sounding words (Homophones) like Frizbie, Frissbee, etc. due to Trademark/Copyright Laws.

*A teenager from Vancouver, Mike Rowe, was once sued by Microsoft for creating www.MikeRoweSoft.com. (http://www.MikeRoweSoft.com.) hahah. I forget who won.

"Disc Golf" sounds pretty sweet anyway. Even though I always have to tell people "No, I don't play DISCO, I play D I S C __ G O L F"

Aug 09 2005, 12:50 PM
We gotta tack in onto the Tony Hawk type extremo sports shows...
"this isn't daddy's golf game..."/clip of huge drive screaming through trees and over rough or a long putt from the shule...
"frisbees are rollerskates to today's hi-tech rollerblade discs..." /clip of large tommy shot over some big trees, maybe a schweet roller or other non-trad throws
Edit down tourney footage to the most dramatic shots while telling the story of who's in the lead and who's chasing... this alone could prolly fill up a half hour per NT event... slap a quick lesson in each installment like thumbers etc. to make folks aware that we want to advance that sucka any way possible- there really are no rules for how to throw... and the more the kids see that we take our sport to rather gnarly terrain, the more they may become interested in flinging plastic through it... and while the skateboarders and bmxers need to be "on" for a run that lasts a few minutes, disc golf stretches that out and demands that one be "on" for a couple hours with enough guile and wits to get a decent score, it can really complement the mindset of the extreminator crowd I'd think- like how the kids of today hit the links to relax...